Arjuna said:

AnonymousFan said:

databank said:

If you sheep don't like what is being discussed here, you're free to leave.

How about sheep being people who discard statements of the type of "I've had dreams about Elvis Presley being alive so it has to be proof that he's alive" as being lunacy?

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What are you people trying to achieve exactly anyway?

Let us even admit for one second that Prince was murdered or something like that, that the official statements doesn't add-up, what r u gonna achieve by discussing it on a message board?

Are you going to, from the sanctuary of your comfortable homes, achieve a valid investigation and uncover the truth in this very thread, thanks to your very serious, professional investigative methods? No you ain't.

Are you going to take note of such disturbing facts that mainstream medias, reading this thread, are going to start talking about it in such a way that soon, a DA or a judge will re-open the case? No you ain't.

Are you gonna, thanks to this thread, provoke a public outcry so massive that soon the rest of the world and the authorities won't be able to ignore it? No you ain't.

All you're going to do is masturbate each others brains with approximative theories and speculation, until this thread dies off and another thread of the kind is created. And no thruth will have been revealed. No case re-opened. Nothing.

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Nothing will ever be achieved with methods of that sort. You want to uncover the "truth"? Go to Minnesota, interview everyone involved, compare and analyse data, do a true investigative, journalistic job. If you truly believe something doesn't add-up this is the only way you'll ever discover anything relevant.

.

I'm sick and tired of you people all over the internet (message boards and social networks alike) who obviously suffer from psychological issues (I know mods said it's not allowed to imply other orgers suffer from mental illness, and I apologize for breaking the rules, snip me if you must, but if any TRUTH has to be told that's this one, I'm sorry) and make noise online with nothing and for nothing, achieving no purpose than encouraging each otrer to be every day more disconnected from reality and rational thinking than the day before.

Back in the days lunatics were left on their own, lost in the middle of "normal" people, and possibly at some point they would realize that their isolation is the symptom of some disease, and they would seek professional help.

Nowadays such people can find their peers online, and encourage each other in the belief that their lunacy is, in fact, some form of rational thinking, and therefore see no reason to seek help.

Much worse is that some naive teenagers, as well as some fragile people who are a bit lost in today's world and need to find something to believe in, will soon be enrolled in the ranks of conspirationnists and such.

And, let me repeat it, what do you 9/11, illimitati and other conspiracy theories believers achieve by blabbering endlessly online? NOTHING. If there's a conspiracy of any sort you'll never be the ones to uncover it because your methods are unscientific, uninvestigative, irrational and useless.

.

I'm sorry, I don't want to hurt anyone's feeling, I don't want to insult anyone, and I aopologize if I'm doing so, but I can NOT accept a world where people who suffer from mental illness are given more and more space to express their lunatic opinions and contaminate fragile people, where one's children can go online and be influenced to believe such nonsense. I'm a legit member of this community, have been for 15 years, I see there are a lot of fragile and very young people on this board (even more since P passed and we've been flooded by new members) and I say NO, such threads are not to be allowed to exist in this community. It's the mods' call, not mine, but I am entitled to voice my opinion about what's going on here.

.

What you people need isn't to uncover some truth about Prince's death. What you need is professional help to learn how to cope with reality as it is. It's a ruthless, unfair, sometimes terrible world we live in. But it is what it is and the only way towards some form of inner peace and happiness is to learn to deal with it, not to seek refuge in some fiction to try and make sense of it.

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Peace, and be rational.

databank said:

AnonymousFan said:

databank said: If you sheep don't like what is being discussed here, you're free to leave.

How about sheep being people who discard statements of the type of "I've had dreams about Elvis Presley being alive so it has to be proof that he's alive" as being lunacy?

.

What are you people trying to achieve exactly anyway?

Let us even admit for one second that Prince was murdered or something like that, that the official statements doesn't add-up, what r u gonna achieve by discussing it on a message board?

Are you going to, from the sanctuary of your comfortable homes, achieve a valid investigation and uncover the truth in this very thread, thanks to your very serious, professional investigative methods? No you ain't.

Are you going to take note of such disturbing facts that mainstream medias, reading this thread, are going to start talking about it in such a way that soon, a DA or a judge will re-open the case? No you ain't.

Are you gonna, thanks to this thread, provoke a public outcry so massive that soon the rest of the world and the authorities won't be able to ignore it? No you ain't.

All you're going to do is masturbate each others brains with approximative theories and speculation, until this thread dies off and another thread of the kind is created. And no thruth will have been revealed. No case re-opened. Nothing.

.

Nothing will ever be achieved with methods of that sort. You want to uncover the "truth"? Go to Minnesota, interview everyone involved, compare and analyse data, do a true investigative, journalistic job. If you truly believe something doesn't add-up this is the only way you'll ever discover anything relevant.

.

I'm sick and tired of you people all over the internet (message boards and social networks alike) who obviously suffer from psychological issues (I know mods said it's not allowed to imply other orgers suffer from mental illness, and I apologize for breaking the rules, snip me if you must, but if any TRUTH has to be told that's this one, I'm sorry) and make noise online with nothing and for nothing, achieving no purpose than encouraging each otrer to be every day more disconnected from reality and rational thinking than the day before.

Back in the days lunatics were left on their own, lost in the middle of "normal" people, and possibly at some point they would realize that their isolation is the symptom of some disease, and they would seek professional help.

Nowadays such people can find their peers online, and encourage each other in the belief that their lunacy is, in fact, some form of rational thinking, and therefore see no reason to seek help.

Much worse is that some naive teenagers, as well as some fragile people who are a bit lost in today's world and need to find something to believe in, will soon be enrolled in the ranks of conspirationnists and such.

And, let me repeat it, what do you 9/11, illimitati and other conspiracy theories believers achieve by blabbering endlessly online? NOTHING. If there's a conspiracy of any sort you'll never be the ones to uncover it because your methods are unscientific, uninvestigative, irrational and useless.

.

I'm sorry, I don't want to hurt anyone's feeling, I don't want to insult anyone, and I aopologize if I'm doing so, but I can NOT accept a world where people who suffer from mental illness are given more and more space to express their lunatic opinions and contaminate fragile people, where one's children can go online and be influenced to believe such nonsense. I'm a legit member of this community, have been for 15 years, I see there are a lot of fragile and very young people on this board (even more since P passed and we've been flooded by new members) and I say NO, such threads are not to be allowed to exist in this community. It's the mods' call, not mine, but I am entitled to voice my opinion about what's going on here.

.

What you people need isn't to uncover some truth about Prince's death. What you need is professional help to learn how to cope with reality as it is. It's a ruthless, unfair, sometimes terrible world we live in. But it is what it is and the only way towards some form of inner peace and happiness is to learn to deal with it, not to seek refuge in some fiction to try and make sense of it.

.

Peace, and be rational.

I think it's pretty reductive and disrespectful of you to generalize people who question things as mentally ill. It's all a matter of perspective. I see plenty of religious folks on here that question nothing and are ever so righteous and some of them sound pretty crazy to me. One person's crazy is another person's normal. You don't question stuff? Good for you. It means you believe things are exactly the way they should and that's that. However, there are those who do question stuff not all of them believe in inside jobs, illuminati, or whatever, so don't go putting everyone in the same bag cause that's generalization at it's worst and not very clever of you.

As a side note: your children's acess online should be monitored. Period.

MMJas said:

databank said:

How about sheep being people who discard statements of the type of "I've had dreams about Elvis Presley being alive so it has to be proof that he's alive" as being lunacy?

.

What are you people trying to achieve exactly anyway?

Let us even admit for one second that Prince was murdered or something like that, that the official statements doesn't add-up, what r u gonna achieve by discussing it on a message board?

Are you going to, from the sanctuary of your comfortable homes, achieve a valid investigation and uncover the truth in this very thread, thanks to your very serious, professional investigative methods? No you ain't.

Are you going to take note of such disturbing facts that mainstream medias, reading this thread, are going to start talking about it in such a way that soon, a DA or a judge will re-open the case? No you ain't.

Are you gonna, thanks to this thread, provoke a public outcry so massive that soon the rest of the world and the authorities won't be able to ignore it? No you ain't.

All you're going to do is masturbate each others brains with approximative theories and speculation, until this thread dies off and another thread of the kind is created. And no thruth will have been revealed. No case re-opened. Nothing.

.

Nothing will ever be achieved with methods of that sort. You want to uncover the "truth"? Go to Minnesota, interview everyone involved, compare and analyse data, do a true investigative, journalistic job. If you truly believe something doesn't add-up this is the only way you'll ever discover anything relevant.

.

I'm sick and tired of you people all over the internet (message boards and social networks alike) who obviously suffer from psychological issues (I know mods said it's not allowed to imply other orgers suffer from mental illness, and I apologize for breaking the rules, snip me if you must, but if any TRUTH has to be told that's this one, I'm sorry) and make noise online with nothing and for nothing, achieving no purpose than encouraging each otrer to be every day more disconnected from reality and rational thinking than the day before.

Back in the days lunatics were left on their own, lost in the middle of "normal" people, and possibly at some point they would realize that their isolation is the symptom of some disease, and they would seek professional help.

Nowadays such people can find their peers online, and encourage each other in the belief that their lunacy is, in fact, some form of rational thinking, and therefore see no reason to seek help.

Much worse is that some naive teenagers, as well as some fragile people who are a bit lost in today's world and need to find something to believe in, will soon be enrolled in the ranks of conspirationnists and such.

And, let me repeat it, what do you 9/11, illimitati and other conspiracy theories believers achieve by blabbering endlessly online? NOTHING. If there's a conspiracy of any sort you'll never be the ones to uncover it because your methods are unscientific, uninvestigative, irrational and useless.

.

I'm sorry, I don't want to hurt anyone's feeling, I don't want to insult anyone, and I aopologize if I'm doing so, but I can NOT accept a world where people who suffer from mental illness are given more and more space to express their lunatic opinions and contaminate fragile people, where one's children can go online and be influenced to believe such nonsense. I'm a legit member of this community, have been for 15 years, I see there are a lot of fragile and very young people on this board (even more since P passed and we've been flooded by new members) and I say NO, such threads are not to be allowed to exist in this community. It's the mods' call, not mine, but I am entitled to voice my opinion about what's going on here.

.

What you people need isn't to uncover some truth about Prince's death. What you need is professional help to learn how to cope with reality as it is. It's a ruthless, unfair, sometimes terrible world we live in. But it is what it is and the only way towards some form of inner peace and happiness is to learn to deal with it, not to seek refuge in some fiction to try and make sense of it.

.

Peace, and be rational.

I think it's pretty reductive and disrespectful of you to generalize people who question things as mentally ill. It's all a matter of perspective. I see plenty of religious folks on here that question nothing and are ever so righteous and some of them sound pretty crazy to me. One person's crazy is another person's normal. You don't question stuff? Good for you. It means you believe things are exactly the way they should and that's that. However, there are those who do question stuff not all of them believe in inside jobs, illuminati, or whatever, so don't go putting everyone in the same bag cause that's generalization at it's worst and not very clever of you.

As a side note: your children's acess online should be monitored. Period.

Of course I do question things, only I try to follow the most rigorous rationality when doing so. And I do not see the point of agitating online communities with speculation until I have some sort of verifiable elements of proof to back-up a statement. And more importantly I do not nourish the illusion of solving a mystery from my sofa, by chatting online with other people. All you achieve by doing so is adding layers of confusion over layers of confusion.

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I do not wanna put everyone in the same bag but the bottom line is, are you here nourishing this thread or are you not? That's the extent of my "bag". My intelligence isn't to be questioned here (my IQ = 130), thanks

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Religious people can be among the most irrational and I'll fight them just as much if they try to impose nonsense on others.

Anyone who embraces irrational believes without questioning them is, in my book, already putting one foot in mental disease. You have faith in God or spirits? Good: I have my beliefs, too. As long as you will admit that this is a leap of faith and that you have no proof, u're sane. The minute you try and say your faith is fact, you're losing it.

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As for children's online access, please do not speak nonsense: I don't have any kids but I know lots of people who do and fact is that in the reality of 2016 it seems impossible to monitor what kids have access to (by kids I mean teens more than little children): if you won't give them a smartphone, their classmates will have one. If they won't browse freely at home, they'll do it at the library, or at their friend's place.

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You know those things can be excessively dangerous: you've certainly heard of the Charlie and Hypercasher attacks in France, in January 2015. In the next few days lots of conspiracy theories surfaced online, based on so-called (sometimes fabricated) evidence from pictures and official statements. All of which were quickly proved absurd and dismissed by rigorous facts verification. Only thing is they became viral online, and were seen by dozens of thousands of teenagers, who just assumed they were true. Those kids were led to believe that the whole thing had been fabricated by the French government, who manipulated the terrorists (or even according to some there were no terrorists at all, it was goverment agents). Problem is lots of those kids are muslim, of immigrant origins by their folks or grandfolks. Similar conspiracy theoris have florished online for each attack in France ever since. In the sociopolitical context of France, if not the world, in 2016, how good do you think it is to have immigrant and Muslim kids believing that the French goverment organizes fake terrorist attacks, for the sake of some anti-Muslim/pro-Jew agenda? Where does that lead us? I've seen those kids interviewed by journalists: they're between 10 and 16, and they believe it without any marging of doubt. They're convinced. The believe the State to be some sort of evil machine, their enemy. Those kids certainly didn't have anyone to monitor what they read. And by the way should parents ban teenage orgers from reading the Org because of threads like this one? Are we gonna end-up saying that? Because that's exactly what you're saying here!

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The harm you guys are doing to society by saying that "irrationality" is "reasonable doubt" is beyond measure.

Vannormal said:

Thank you much, databank ! Finally someone with some common sense.

Thanks for supporting rationality

databank said:

MMJas said:

I think it's pretty reductive and disrespectful of you to generalize people who question things as mentally ill. It's all a matter of perspective. I see plenty of religious folks on here that question nothing and are ever so righteous and some of them sound pretty crazy to me. One person's crazy is another person's normal. You don't question stuff? Good for you. It means you believe things are exactly the way they should and that's that. However, there are those who do question stuff not all of them believe in inside jobs, illuminati, or whatever, so don't go putting everyone in the same bag cause that's generalization at it's worst and not very clever of you.

As a side note: your children's acess online should be monitored. Period.

Of course I do question things, only I try to follow the most rigorous rationality when doing so. And I do not see the point of agitating online communities with speculation until I have some sort of verifiable elements of proof to back-up a statement. And more importantly I do not nourish the illusion of solving a mystery from my sofa, by chatting online with other people. All you achieve by doing so is adding layers of confusion over layers of confusion.

.

I do not wanna put everyone in the same bag but the bottom line is, are you here nourishing this thread or are you not? That's the extent of my "bag". My intelligence isn't to be questioned here (my IQ = 130), thanks

.

Religious people can be among the most irrational and I'll fight them just as much if they try to impose nonsense on others.

Anyone who embraces irrational believes without questioning them is, in my book, already putting one foot in mental disease. You have faith in God or spirits? Good: I have my beliefs, too. As long as you will admit that this is a leap of faith and that you have no proof, u're sane. The minute you try and say your faith is fact, you're losing it.

.

As for children's online access, please do not speak nonsense: I don't have any kids but I know lots of people who do and fact is that in the reality of 2016 it seems impossible to monitor what kids have access to (by kids I mean teens more than little children): if you won't give them a smartphone, their classmates will have one. If they won't browse freely at home, they'll do it at the library, or at their friend's place.

.

You know those things can be excessively dangerous: you've certainly heard of the Charlie and Hypercasher attacks in France, in January 2015. In the next few days lots of conspiracy theories surfaced online, based on so-called (sometimes fabricated) evidence from pictures and official statements. All of which were quickly proved absurd and dismissed by rigorous facts verification. Only thing is they became viral online, and were seen by dozens of thousands of teenagers, who just assumed they were true. Those kids were led to believe that the whole thing had been fabricated by the French government, who manipulated the terrorists (or even according to some there were no terrorists at all, it was goverment agents). Problem is lots of those kids are muslim, of immigrant origins by their folks or grandfolks. Similar conspiracy theoris have florished online for each attack in France ever since. In the sociopolitical context of France, if not the world, in 2016, how good do you think it is to have immigrant and Muslim kids believing that the French goverment organizes fake terrorist attacks, for the sake of some anti-Muslim/pro-Jew agenda? Where does that lead us? I've seen those kids interviewed by journalists: they're between 10 and 16, and they believe it without any marging of doubt. They're convinced. The believe the State to be some sort of evil machine, their enemy. Those kids certainly didn't have anyone to monitor what they read. And by the way should parents ban teenage orgers from reading the Org because of threads like this one? Are we gonna end-up saying that? Because that's exactly what you're saying here!

.

The harm you guys are doing to society by saying that "irrationality" is "reasonable doubt" is beyond measure.

I think people are merely discussing the mystery surrounding Prince's death. I use the word mystery because there are many things that don't add up and people are trying to make sense of them. You do that by discussing it. Some ideas are thrown in and not all are rational, logical, nice. Deal with it.

You are putting people in the same bag when you are categorizing everyone that questions things as a loony that believes in the Illuminati, etc. Your "you guys" comment is self-explanatory in that sense.

Well, I do have kids, in fact, I have teenage kids and i assure you I mostly know what they do online. It's called parenting. And no, i never said parents should ban teenagers from reading the Org, you said that.

Concerning the "you guys" comment. You know nothing about me to assume anything. I respect the fact you don't question certain things, so please respect the fact that i do. And that I have the freedom and right to talk about it online cause most of these people live in different countries to mine and frankly there's just not many people that interested or bothered about what happened to Prince. So each to its own. You don't like reading about what you call conspiracy theories? Then don't read them. Nobody is putting a gun to your head. I don't visit threads with pics of Prince's dong, but i also don't go on other threads and bash whoever is posting on them.
Have a great Sunday.

MMJas said:

databank said:

Of course I do question things, only I try to follow the most rigorous rationality when doing so. And I do not see the point of agitating online communities with speculation until I have some sort of verifiable elements of proof to back-up a statement. And more importantly I do not nourish the illusion of solving a mystery from my sofa, by chatting online with other people. All you achieve by doing so is adding layers of confusion over layers of confusion.

.

I do not wanna put everyone in the same bag but the bottom line is, are you here nourishing this thread or are you not? That's the extent of my "bag". My intelligence isn't to be questioned here (my IQ = 130), thanks

.

Religious people can be among the most irrational and I'll fight them just as much if they try to impose nonsense on others.

Anyone who embraces irrational believes without questioning them is, in my book, already putting one foot in mental disease. You have faith in God or spirits? Good: I have my beliefs, too. As long as you will admit that this is a leap of faith and that you have no proof, u're sane. The minute you try and say your faith is fact, you're losing it.

.

As for children's online access, please do not speak nonsense: I don't have any kids but I know lots of people who do and fact is that in the reality of 2016 it seems impossible to monitor what kids have access to (by kids I mean teens more than little children): if you won't give them a smartphone, their classmates will have one. If they won't browse freely at home, they'll do it at the library, or at their friend's place.

.

You know those things can be excessively dangerous: you've certainly heard of the Charlie and Hypercasher attacks in France, in January 2015. In the next few days lots of conspiracy theories surfaced online, based on so-called (sometimes fabricated) evidence from pictures and official statements. All of which were quickly proved absurd and dismissed by rigorous facts verification. Only thing is they became viral online, and were seen by dozens of thousands of teenagers, who just assumed they were true. Those kids were led to believe that the whole thing had been fabricated by the French government, who manipulated the terrorists (or even according to some there were no terrorists at all, it was goverment agents). Problem is lots of those kids are muslim, of immigrant origins by their folks or grandfolks. Similar conspiracy theoris have florished online for each attack in France ever since. In the sociopolitical context of France, if not the world, in 2016, how good do you think it is to have immigrant and Muslim kids believing that the French goverment organizes fake terrorist attacks, for the sake of some anti-Muslim/pro-Jew agenda? Where does that lead us? I've seen those kids interviewed by journalists: they're between 10 and 16, and they believe it without any marging of doubt. They're convinced. The believe the State to be some sort of evil machine, their enemy. Those kids certainly didn't have anyone to monitor what they read. And by the way should parents ban teenage orgers from reading the Org because of threads like this one? Are we gonna end-up saying that? Because that's exactly what you're saying here!

.

The harm you guys are doing to society by saying that "irrationality" is "reasonable doubt" is beyond measure.

I think people are merely discussing the mystery surrounding Prince's death. I use the word mystery because there are many things that don't add up and people are trying to make sense of them. You do that by discussing it. Some ideas are thrown in and not all are rational, logical, nice. Deal with it.

You are putting people in the same bag when you are categorizing everyone that questions things as a loony that believes in the Illuminati, etc. Your "you guys" comment is self-explanatory in that sense.

Well, I do have kids, in fact, I have teenage kids and i assure you I mostly know what they do online. It's called parenting. And no, i never said parents should ban teenagers from reading the Org, you said that.

Concerning the "you guys" comment. You know nothing about me to assume anything. I respect the fact you don't question certain things, so please respect the fact that i do. And that I have the freedom and right to talk about it online cause most of these people live in different countries to mine and frankly there's just not many people that interested or bothered about what happened to Prince. So each to its own. You don't like reading about what you call conspiracy theories? Then don't read them. Nobody is putting a gun to your head. I don't visit threads with pics of Prince's dong, but i also don't go on other threads and bash whoever is posting on them.
Have a great Sunday.

You believe what u do. I believe what I do. Fighting irrationality is something I believe in so no, I cannot "leave this thread alone", because I feel it's my responsibility to the community.

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It's good that u're a good parent, it's absurd to assume that because you are every one else is and that we should simply behave as if people were. Should we suppress the police just because you will not commit any crime? Obviously you've ignored the most important part of my reply, the one about the terrorist attacks. That's odd to say the least. When some of those kids who swallow nonsense all day long online are gonna become violent individuals then I can assure you someone will be "putting a gun to my head". I'd rather fight ignorance and mental manipulation at its root than when the harm is done.

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As for discussing the conditions of Prince's death and its possible contradictions (honestly I fail to see anything that suspicious in what I've read, but on the other hand if I'd found a properly organized, back-up list of suspicious elements instead of the nonsense I usually read in those threads, maybe I would pay attention), why not. The only thing is that this thread was created by someone who claim that because they dream of Prince, it is proof that something is suspicious in Prince's death.

SERIOUSLY???!!!

This is mental illness, I'm sorry. Anyone with their senses should have condemned or ignored this thread, even if they believe there is something suspicious in P's death!

.

You wanna discuss Prince's death and possible contradiction in the investigation? Be my guest: create a thread where you will expose your case in an organized and rational manner, using proper English and structuring your speech in an intelligible manner. Make it clear from the start that absurdities such as dreams, illuminati and aliens are not welcome in your thread. Make it clear that your thread isn't to become a circus. Only accept reasonable contributors. Actually if I was to read any well-organized, rationally argumented thread summerizing the elements of doubt, maybe even I could be lead to accept that something is odd, who knows?

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You seem to be a rational person, and a reasonable one. But as long as "you people" (the reasonable ones who doubt an official story) will accept the "you people" I was talking of earlier (the lunatics) in your conversations, as long as you mingle with them, you are systematically taking any credibility off the whole thing, antagonizing anyone with common sense and encouraging something that should be fought at every opportunity, if anything for the sake of your children, their future and the society they are going to live in.

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Have a great Sunday too, but instead of feeling insulted, try and think about all I've said. It wasn't only about you.

databank said:

MMJas said:

I think people are merely discussing the mystery surrounding Prince's death. I use the word mystery because there are many things that don't add up and people are trying to make sense of them. You do that by discussing it. Some ideas are thrown in and not all are rational, logical, nice. Deal with it.

You are putting people in the same bag when you are categorizing everyone that questions things as a loony that believes in the Illuminati, etc. Your "you guys" comment is self-explanatory in that sense.

Well, I do have kids, in fact, I have teenage kids and i assure you I mostly know what they do online. It's called parenting. And no, i never said parents should ban teenagers from reading the Org, you said that.

Concerning the "you guys" comment. You know nothing about me to assume anything. I respect the fact you don't question certain things, so please respect the fact that i do. And that I have the freedom and right to talk about it online cause most of these people live in different countries to mine and frankly there's just not many people that interested or bothered about what happened to Prince. So each to its own. You don't like reading about what you call conspiracy theories? Then don't read them. Nobody is putting a gun to your head. I don't visit threads with pics of Prince's dong, but i also don't go on other threads and bash whoever is posting on them.
Have a great Sunday.

You believe what u do. I believe what I do. Fighting irrationality is something I believe in so no, I cannot "leave this thread alone", because I feel it's my responsibility to the community.

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It's good that u're a good parent, it's absurd to assume that because you are every one else is and that we should simply behave as if people were. Should we suppress the police just because you will not commit any crime? Obviously you've ignored the most important part of my reply, the one about the terrorist attacks. That's odd to say the least. When some of those kids who swallow nonsense all day long online are gonna become violent individuals then I can assure you someone will be "putting a gun to my head". I'd rather fight ignorance and mental manipulation at its root than when the harm is done.

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As for discussing the conditions of Prince's death and its possible contradictions (honestly I fail to see anything that suspicious in what I've read, but on the other hand if I'd found a properly organized, back-up list of suspicious elements instead of the nonsense I usually read in those threads, maybe I would pay attention), why not. The only thing is that this thread was created by someone who claim that because they dream of Prince, it is proof that something is suspicious in Prince's death.

SERIOUSLY???!!!

This is mental illness, I'm sorry. Anyone with their senses should have condemned or ignored this thread, even if they believe there is something suspicious in P's death!

.

You wanna discuss Prince's death and possible contradiction in the investigation? Be my guest: create a thread where you will expose your case in an organized and rational manner, using proper English and structuring your speech in an intelligible manner. Make it clear from the start that absurdities such as dreams, illuminati and aliens are not welcome in your thread. Make it clear that your thread isn't to become a circus. Only accept reasonable contributors. Actually if I was to read any well-organized, rationally argumented thread summerizing the elements of doubt, maybe even I could be lead to accept that something is odd, who knows?

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You seem to be a rational person, and a reasonable one. But as long as "you people" (the reasonable ones who doubt an official story) will accept the "you people" I was talking of earlier (the lunatics) in your conversations, as long as you mingle with them, you are systematically taking any credibility off the whole thing, antagonizing anyone with common sense and encouraging something that should be fought at every opportunity, if anything for the sake of your children, their future and the society they are going to live in.

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Have a great Sunday too, but instead of feeling insulted, try and think about all I've said. It wasn't only about you.

I purposefuly did not reply to the terrorist issue because i found the comparisson absurd. Someone coming on here stating Prince was killed by the Illuminati is not going to make kids believe it. It may make them look up what the Illuminati is and draw their own conclusions. This should not be compared to kids being influenced by extremists online.

However, let me say this: many news outlets are influencing people's trail of thought daily, concerning many important issues, and unfortunately i don't see many people questioning those. Why's that? Because articulate intelligent people that question things are often put in that same bag i was telling you about before, in order to diminish and ridicule their perpective. And also divert from it.

I totally agree with you concerning this exact thread. However, my reply was directed at all the other threads you were referring to by addressing the "conspiracy issue". In fact, I thought you were refering to those AS WELL and believe me, there are some well thought articulate and intelligent discussions on here concerning his death. Perhaps you should take a look at some of those articulated posters.
Plus, I find that it is valid to try and find a connection between these two events. If there is none, good. But it's still valid to check.

I did not feel insulted, I simply questioned your putting everyone in the same bag. But i see where you are coming from and believe me, in some aspects i totally agree with you. Plus, I realize you did that because of my reply. So right reply, wrong thread. Does that make any sense to you?

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Thank you databank!

All of these the theories are getting out of hand.

coldasice said:

Anothercrazynewbie

I may be a newbie, but I'm not crazy, thank you very much.

Superfan1984 said:

I do recall that I thought it was an extraordinary coincidence that this gentleman so quickly after Prince did. I wondered if their deaths could have been related by more than just being classified as accidental overdoses.

1Sasha said:

I do recall that I thought it was an extraordinary coincidence that this gentleman so quickly after Prince did. I wondered if their deaths could have been related by more than just being classified as accidental overdoses.

It's because these fentanyl laced street drugs are making their way thru the US.

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databank said:

MMJas said:

I think people are merely discussing the mystery surrounding Prince's death. I use the word mystery because there are many things that don't add up and people are trying to make sense of them. You do that by discussing it. Some ideas are thrown in and not all are rational, logical, nice. Deal with it.

You are putting people in the same bag when you are categorizing everyone that questions things as a loony that believes in the Illuminati, etc. Your "you guys" comment is self-explanatory in that sense.

Well, I do have kids, in fact, I have teenage kids and i assure you I mostly know what they do online. It's called parenting. And no, i never said parents should ban teenagers from reading the Org, you said that.

Concerning the "you guys" comment. You know nothing about me to assume anything. I respect the fact you don't question certain things, so please respect the fact that i do. And that I have the freedom and right to talk about it online cause most of these people live in different countries to mine and frankly there's just not many people that interested or bothered about what happened to Prince. So each to its own. You don't like reading about what you call conspiracy theories? Then don't read them. Nobody is putting a gun to your head. I don't visit threads with pics of Prince's dong, but i also don't go on other threads and bash whoever is posting on them.
Have a great Sunday.

You believe what u do. I believe what I do. Fighting irrationality is something I believe in so no, I cannot "leave this thread alone", because I feel it's my responsibility to the community.

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It's good that u're a good parent, it's absurd to assume that because you are every one else is and that we should simply behave as if people were. Should we suppress the police just because you will not commit any crime? Obviously you've ignored the most important part of my reply, the one about the terrorist attacks. That's odd to say the least. When some of those kids who swallow nonsense all day long online are gonna become violent individuals then I can assure you someone will be "putting a gun to my head". I'd rather fight ignorance and mental manipulation at its root than when the harm is done.

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As for discussing the conditions of Prince's death and its possible contradictions (honestly I fail to see anything that suspicious in what I've read, but on the other hand if I'd found a properly organized, back-up list of suspicious elements instead of the nonsense I usually read in those threads, maybe I would pay attention), why not. The only thing is that this thread was created by someone who claim that because they dream of Prince, it is proof that something is suspicious in Prince's death.

SERIOUSLY???!!!

This is mental illness, I'm sorry. Anyone with their senses should have condemned or ignored this thread, even if they believe there is something suspicious in P's death!

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You wanna discuss Prince's death and possible contradiction in the investigation? Be my guest: create a thread where you will expose your case in an organized and rational manner, using proper English and structuring your speech in an intelligible manner. Make it clear from the start that absurdities such as dreams, illuminati and aliens are not welcome in your thread. Make it clear that your thread isn't to become a circus. Only accept reasonable contributors. Actually if I was to read any well-organized, rationally argumented thread summerizing the elements of doubt, maybe even I could be lead to accept that something is odd, who knows?

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You seem to be a rational person, and a reasonable one. But as long as "you people" (the reasonable ones who doubt an official story) will accept the "you people" I was talking of earlier (the lunatics) in your conversations, as long as you mingle with them, you are systematically taking any credibility off the whole thing, antagonizing anyone with common sense and encouraging something that should be fought at every opportunity, if anything for the sake of your children, their future and the society they are going to live in.

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Have a great Sunday too, but instead of feeling insulted, try and think about all I've said. It wasn't only about you.

Who are you to "fight irrationality"? Who gave you this position? Who are you to tell us how we can and cannot discuss the death of Prince? Are you some cosmic arbiter of what is and is not rational? What can and cannot be entertained? I think not.

If you'd like to acecpt Prince's death at face value, over look all the strange things surrounding his death, and believe you been fed the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but by what's been reported, then go ahead. But, I will not and neither will those like me. There's a difference between believing in the illuminati, 9/11 conspiracies, etc... and believing that something's not right about Prince's death. Quite frankly, very few of what we've been told is 100% believable and there are a ton of holes. It's also not that far of a stretch to believe that this guy's death and Prince's death are related in some way. If you want to believe everything is hunky and be "rational" about it go ahead. But, being "rational" and complacent about it gets no answers. Even if no action is spawned from trying to figure out what happened, at least we get close and at least we get some kind of peace of mind.

Don't tell us what not to think. Don't tell us how to think.

[Edited 10/16/16 10:59am]

PennyPurple said:

AnonymousFan said:

databank said:

You believe what u do. I believe what I do. Fighting irrationality is something I believe in so no, I cannot "leave this thread alone", because I feel it's my responsibility to the community.

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It's good that u're a good parent, it's absurd to assume that because you are every one else is and that we should simply behave as if people were. Should we suppress the police just because you will not commit any crime? Obviously you've ignored the most important part of my reply, the one about the terrorist attacks. That's odd to say the least. When some of those kids who swallow nonsense all day long online are gonna become violent individuals then I can assure you someone will be "putting a gun to my head". I'd rather fight ignorance and mental manipulation at its root than when the harm is done.

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As for discussing the conditions of Prince's death and its possible contradictions (honestly I fail to see anything that suspicious in what I've read, but on the other hand if I'd found a properly organized, back-up list of suspicious elements instead of the nonsense I usually read in those threads, maybe I would pay attention), why not. The only thing is that this thread was created by someone who claim that because they dream of Prince, it is proof that something is suspicious in Prince's death.

SERIOUSLY???!!!

This is mental illness, I'm sorry. Anyone with their senses should have condemned or ignored this thread, even if they believe there is something suspicious in P's death!

.

You wanna discuss Prince's death and possible contradiction in the investigation? Be my guest: create a thread where you will expose your case in an organized and rational manner, using proper English and structuring your speech in an intelligible manner. Make it clear from the start that absurdities such as dreams, illuminati and aliens are not welcome in your thread. Make it clear that your thread isn't to become a circus. Only accept reasonable contributors. Actually if I was to read any well-organized, rationally argumented thread summerizing the elements of doubt, maybe even I could be lead to accept that something is odd, who knows?

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You seem to be a rational person, and a reasonable one. But as long as "you people" (the reasonable ones who doubt an official story) will accept the "you people" I was talking of earlier (the lunatics) in your conversations, as long as you mingle with them, you are systematically taking any credibility off the whole thing, antagonizing anyone with common sense and encouraging something that should be fought at every opportunity, if anything for the sake of your children, their future and the society they are going to live in.

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Have a great Sunday too, but instead of feeling insulted, try and think about all I've said. It wasn't only about you.

Who are you to "fight irrationality"? Who gave you this position? Who are you to tell us how we can and cannot discuss the death of Prince? Are you some cosmic arbiter of what is and is not rational? What can and cannot be entertained? I think not.

If you'd like to acecpt Prince's death at face value, over look all the strange things surrounding his death, and believe you been fed the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but by what's been reported, then go ahead. But, I will not and neither will those like me. There's a difference between believing in the illuminati, 9/11 conspiracies, etc... and believing that something's not right about Prince's death. Quite frankly, very few of what we've been told is 100% believable and there are a ton of holes. It's also not that far of a stretch to believe that this guy's death and Prince's death are related in some way. If you want to believe everything is hunky and be "rational" about it go ahead. But, being "rational" and complacent about it gets no answers. Even if no action is spawned from trying to figure out what happened, at least we get close and at least we get some kind of peace of mind.

Don't tell us what not to think. Don't tell us how to think.

[Edited 10/16/16 10:59am]

Oh go to hell, same BS I hear every time!

Who am I? A human being, on this earth, as entitled as anyone else to shout BS when I believe I see BS, and as entitled as anyone else to fight what I deem wrong, evil, dishonest or harmful for the society I live in, or the community I belong to. Isn't it funny how freedom of speech only works one way for you people: everyone is entitled to tell any nonsense that crosses their mind, but anyone calling their BS BS is some sort of fascist telling them what to think. I'm sorry pal, but freedom of speech gives anyone the right to voice an opinion against anything they deem wrong. And what y'all are doing is wrong as far as I'm concerned.

As for Prince's death, you don't know anything about it, no one here does. All we know is what the official reports told us, and if some things don't add-up any speculation you all may make is sheer BS, for you don't have any valid element to substanciate any claim.

Go to Minnesota, investigate, talk to people, then you can maybe have some "peace of mind".

Now if this makes you guys feel better about your loss, I could respect that. Only maybe it didn't cross your mind that it may make other people feel bad about their own mourning process. Not me, I don't care, I've moved on and that's not why I say it has to stop (I've explained why above), but some other people may find all this nonsense quite harmful when they're trying to move on, and do not believe in any conspiracy. Maybe they may be offended to see the passing of an artist they cared for and felt close to turned into some kind of circus by other people. I've read certain people saying things of that order in various posts and articles since Prince has passed. If it was to happen with someone I was really close to, and knew IRL, I certainly would be pissed.

Now I'm sorry if I'm a bit harsh, I don't mean to offend anyone, but seriously go review your conception of freedom of speech. And allow me mine before your start lecturing me about it.

MMJas said:

databank said:

You believe what u do. I believe what I do. Fighting irrationality is something I believe in so no, I cannot "leave this thread alone", because I feel it's my responsibility to the community.

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It's good that u're a good parent, it's absurd to assume that because you are every one else is and that we should simply behave as if people were. Should we suppress the police just because you will not commit any crime? Obviously you've ignored the most important part of my reply, the one about the terrorist attacks. That's odd to say the least. When some of those kids who swallow nonsense all day long online are gonna become violent individuals then I can assure you someone will be "putting a gun to my head". I'd rather fight ignorance and mental manipulation at its root than when the harm is done.

.

As for discussing the conditions of Prince's death and its possible contradictions (honestly I fail to see anything that suspicious in what I've read, but on the other hand if I'd found a properly organized, back-up list of suspicious elements instead of the nonsense I usually read in those threads, maybe I would pay attention), why not. The only thing is that this thread was created by someone who claim that because they dream of Prince, it is proof that something is suspicious in Prince's death.

SERIOUSLY???!!!

This is mental illness, I'm sorry. Anyone with their senses should have condemned or ignored this thread, even if they believe there is something suspicious in P's death!

.

You wanna discuss Prince's death and possible contradiction in the investigation? Be my guest: create a thread where you will expose your case in an organized and rational manner, using proper English and structuring your speech in an intelligible manner. Make it clear from the start that absurdities such as dreams, illuminati and aliens are not welcome in your thread. Make it clear that your thread isn't to become a circus. Only accept reasonable contributors. Actually if I was to read any well-organized, rationally argumented thread summerizing the elements of doubt, maybe even I could be lead to accept that something is odd, who knows?

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You seem to be a rational person, and a reasonable one. But as long as "you people" (the reasonable ones who doubt an official story) will accept the "you people" I was talking of earlier (the lunatics) in your conversations, as long as you mingle with them, you are systematically taking any credibility off the whole thing, antagonizing anyone with common sense and encouraging something that should be fought at every opportunity, if anything for the sake of your children, their future and the society they are going to live in.

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Have a great Sunday too, but instead of feeling insulted, try and think about all I've said. It wasn't only about you.

I purposefuly did not reply to the terrorist issue because i found the comparisson absurd. Someone coming on here stating Prince was killed by the Illuminati is not going to make kids believe it. It may make them look up what the Illuminati is and draw their own conclusions. This should not be compared to kids being influenced by extremists online.

However, let me say this: many news outlets are influencing people's trail of thought daily, concerning many important issues, and unfortunately i don't see many people questioning those. Why's that? Because articulate intelligent people that question things are often put in that same bag i was telling you about before, in order to diminish and ridicule their perpective. And also divert from it.

I totally agree with you concerning this exact thread. However, my reply was directed at all the other threads you were referring to by addressing the "conspiracy issue". In fact, I thought you were refering to those AS WELL and believe me, there are some well thought articulate and intelligent discussions on here concerning his death. Perhaps you should take a look at some of those articulated posters.
Plus, I find that it is valid to try and find a connection between these two events. If there is none, good. But it's still valid to check.

I did not feel insulted, I simply questioned your putting everyone in the same bag. But i see where you are coming from and believe me, in some aspects i totally agree with you. Plus, I realize you did that because of my reply. So right reply, wrong thread. Does that make any sense to you?

[Edited 10/16/16 5:44am]

Well, I say we're cool. We may disagree to an extent but we're cool. U certainly do not sound like a lunatic.

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One thing I want to make clear though, because it's really important: the people who make all the hoaxes and conspiracy theories about the attacks in France are NOT terrorists. The terrorists at Al Queda and ISIS are being quite clear: they take responsibility for all the attacks and call for more. Those theories were made by... people like you and I, people who are so convinced that everything we get from the media and politics is a lie that they cross-examine every important news event looking for flaws and seeing just what they want to see (without cross-examining their findings, of course), or just making-up shit because they believe that it is important to sensibilize the opinion about all the great conspiracies, and that a few lies can't harm if it's for a greater cause. That's why I believe this trend has to be fought because precisely those conspiracy theories are not the offspring of some evil conspirators but of every day people, ordinary citizens who found a meaning to their pathetic existences by uncovering so-called truth (and making them up if necessary), and soon enough other people are led to believe those fairy tales to be true and themselves begin to do the same, and then some other people, etc.

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Treating this as a harmless phenomenon, a little thing, in this internet age, is a huge mistake. Teenagers are being superexposed to those things: it can litarally shape their mind if they do not belong to an educated environment that will give them proper intellectual tools. Even grown-up can be vulnerable: I've seen educated and intelligent people I know sharing delirious articles or news on Facebook, and when I pointed out that a 5 seconds Google search would have uncovered a hoax, they were like "oh, yeah, it didn't cross my mind: my friend had shared it so I assumed it to be true". Moreover I've sometimes een communities on social networks when lonely adults would happily brainwhash each other. The problem is that when you have a conspiracy theory, there's always someone to accuse of lying. And then there's hate. And eventually this can lead to violence, harrasment, discrimination, or simply a complete loss of faith in democracy and our institutions which, while not being perfect, are not the totalitarian system some would want us to believe they are.

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It doesn't mean that, as you said, big medias are necessarily always telling the truth, or that they have no influence over people, but that's another matter and fighting against this doesn't mean condoning any "alternative" theory just because it's alternative.

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Peace.

oliviacamron said:

PennyPurple said:

I may be a newbie, but I'm not crazy, thank you very much.

Colda was not referring to you Penny

Thank you.

oliviacamron said:

Astasheiks said:

laurarichardson said:

oliviacamron said:

But if he was just " out of it" , wouldn't he get at least one article of clothing on right, I mean it's a 50-50 chance. But no, ALL clothes were on wrong and THAT IS A STATEMENT

-- It is strange that all of the clothes are in backward even his socks. Could be a coincidence but it is strange.

Not if he had taken then off and leaving him inside out. My son does that all the time. Will take his clothes off and leave them inside out. Perhaps Prince did the same and in a panic put them on quickly. Or somebody else did.

Nevertheless, I read somewhere that the story about the clothes being on backwards were added later, in order to add to the drug addict narrative. Who knows? There was not an official statement saying this, or was there?

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

oliviacamron said: -- It is strange that all of the clothes are in backward even his socks. Could be a coincidence but it is strange.

Not if he had taken then off and leaving him inside out. My son does that all the time. Will take his clothes off and leave them inside out. Perhaps Prince did the same and in a panic put them on quickly. Or somebody else did.

Nevertheless, I read somewhere that the story about the clothes being on backwards were added later, in order to add to the drug addict narrative. Who knows? There was not an official statement saying this, or was there?

MMJas: Here is the news article

http://www.startribune.com/pills-seized-from-paisley-park-contained-illicit-fentanyl-same-drug-that-killed-prince/390816101/

The real question is.....how do chemtrails and the Illuminati fit into this?

DarkKnight1 said:

zenarose said:

MMJas said:

Not if he had taken then off and leaving him inside out. My son does that all the time. Will take his clothes off and leave them inside out. Perhaps Prince did the same and in a panic put them on quickly. Or somebody else did.

Nevertheless, I read somewhere that the story about the clothes being on backwards were added later, in order to add to the drug addict narrative. Who knows? There was not an official statement saying this, or was there?

MMJas: Here is the news article

http://www.startribune.com/pills-seized-from-paisley-park-contained-illicit-fentanyl-same-drug-that-killed-prince/390816101/

Thanks. I remember it came out much later. But this was told by a source familiar with the case, not the Police, right?

MMJas said:

zenarose said:

MMJas: Here is the news article

http://www.startribune.com/pills-seized-from-paisley-park-contained-illicit-fentanyl-same-drug-that-killed-prince/390816101/

Thanks. I remember it came out much later. But this was told by a source familiar with the case, not the Police, right?

Actually.....it doesn't say. LOL once again officially unofficial. Kinda like the link for the article I posted in the other thread. So much contradiction.