. Sonshine: With all due respect, you were in the "conspiracy" thread making your own speculations as well as to what went down on the night of April 20, 2016. . I never come in here and disrespect anyone else's opinion by calling them "idiots" and "mentally-ill". There are some very nice people here, and a few trolls. BTW, I never implied that "you" were a troll. . Not sure why you ignored my response to you in the "curiosity" thread, post #345. You made some statements about what happened on the night of April 20, 2016 at PP, and I asked you to clarify some things you stated. If you don't want to respond, that's okay. .
[Edited 10/30/16 13:35pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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Actually, I'm here posting on this tread because I initially felt led to share my thoughts and feelings on substance abuse and addiction, particularly to opiates, since I have legitimate education and experience in the field. Of course, my post along with many others were lost in the earlier threads.
I post because I have an interest in Information and Theories; Pills seized from Paisley Park contained illicit fentanyl- that's the title of this thread-not "conspiracy theories, gossip, who in the inner circle is responsible, the illumaniti or WB satanic practices including murder"
We are not trolls but rational, fact-seeking individuals who are concerned and confused as to how counterfeit medication that contained fatal levels of fentanyl ended up in Prince's possession. We are persons who genuinely seek the truth-backed by investigated, conclusive evidence. We are willing to accept the outcome of a thorough police/DEA investigation-regardless of the outcome.
I assure you, none of us think Prince's death is a joke. What is truly pathetic is that people are grasping onto ideas that are not grounded in rational thought or any factual evidence, leading to accusing innocent people of murder and cover ups, quoting Prince as if he is a God and then self-righteously judging others.
Prince was an amazingly gifted and unique individual. I love him and respect him as much as anyone on this site. However, he was just a man-a human. Prince had faults and flaws, they don't change one ounce of the way I feel about him. True love and respect means accepting someone just the way they are-not pretending and expecting them to be perfect. It's extremely sad to me that the majority of people who hijacked this thread are so busy trying to make him perfect that they can't accept him for who he was and love/respect/admire him regardless. If it makes you feel better to blame WB or the Illumaniti or Tyka or Kirk or Santa Claus for the events that led to his passing, you are really defending and worshiping a creation in your own mind, you are not superior in your love and adoration of him, in fact it's the opposite, you're actually missing who he really was completely.
Peace. Not looking forward to being verbally skewered by those who just can't let him rest in peace.
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I too missed the memo that only those willing to entertain and egg on conspiracy theories are allowed to discuss the issues relating to Prince's death, which frankly, shocked many of us and led some of us to seek information not just about Prince's specific death, but the broader issues of addiction, the opioid epidemic, the pressures that a highly successful performer -- and others -- may feel as their careers, bodies, etc. change with age. Didnj't realize that being intererested in exchanging thoughtful ideas about those issues instead of satantic hitmen or whatever constitutes "negative energy." | |
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. . I keep hearing people saying Prince was "perfect". I never said he was, but I'm only speaking for myself. . I wasn't calling you a troll, but there are a few here that only come in here to belittle other people's opinions and throw insults around, and that's just wrong. . The fact is, there are a few people here who only come in here on ocassion to attack other's. I never see them bringing forth any valuable information or updates on the death investigation. They only come in here to start trouble. . All of us are mourning the loss of Prince. We all seek the truth and answers. We are only human. . You say you are here to share your thoughts and feelings. So am I, and most of us, but some people come in here, acting like it's all a big joke. . None of us really know what happened to Prince; however, my opinions and theories are just as important as yours or anyone else's here on the Org. . I'm not here to argue with anyone. I always respect another person's opinion, even if I don't agree with them. I'm not better than anyone else. I am here because I love and miss Prince and I seek justice and peace. I don't come in here just for laughs. Death is no joke. I've lost many who were near and dear to me. I only come in here with good intentions. . Peace & Love! .
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[Edited 10/30/16 13:58pm] [Edited 10/30/16 14:00pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. Okay, so now you are just going to make stuff up and accuse people of saying things that they didn't? . Who said this thread was only for "conspiracies"? The discussion here is "Prince Death, Information & Theories", right? . No one stops you from adding to any conversation on here, right? . And for the record, we all have been discussing all those topics you listed above for the past 7-months! .
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I keep hearing people saying Prince was "perfect". I never said he was, but I'm only speaking for myself.
I don't know were this shit is coming from either who said Prince was perfect. It does not mean he deserved to die in a elavator from some posion he does not appear to even know he was taking. People need to be held accountable and apparently law enforcement agrees with some up. Ignore the comments this week from law enforcement if you want to but stop trying to troll and have these topics closed by attacking people for expressing their thoughts. When people come on this board and do this sort of thing it puts fire under the consipracy theories. | |
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Missed the place where I accused anyone of anything -- I believe it was you who was railing against the "haters" with their "negative energy." I did say I've been sobered by the lack of strong deductive reasoning shown (not by everyone) on this thread, and I stand by that assessment. - And while it's not the biggest pride of my life, I've posted on this thread and its predecesors for many months, contributing what I could around the facts of the situation (see page 1 of this thread, with my detailed log of Prince-related stories and resources.) - My feeling about "negative energy" is: I think people who go on and on about satanic plots, the illuminati, murder conspiracies (and actually throw out the names of real people, insinuating they're criminals), etc. puts more negative energy into this world than just about anything else that's been posted here. Not saying that you, clover, are necessarily guilty of that.
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"satanic plots, the illuminati, murder conspiracies (and actually throw out the names of real people, insinuating they're criminals)"
Not that many people have gone down that road and even if they do they are free to do so. As far as people insinuating that some in P's circle are criminals. It is the police who are saying they are still looking to interview witnesses. Who do you think those people might be. The gas station attendent down the street or people in his circle? They don't help themselves by getting lawyers and claming up. Stop feeling sorry for people who are alive and well. | |
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never said i felt sorry for anyone. I do think people should be really careful about casually tossing around insinutations about crimes when no one's been charged. When/if someone is charged/convicted -- that's another story. - And for what is probably the 10 millionth time here: I believe whatever homicide investigation is going on may result in 3rd-degree homicide charges (i.e., supplying illegal drugs that result in a fatal OD) being leveled against P's dealer. I do not think first-degree homicide charges are even remotely likely. I've said why many times. - And that's my cue to duck back out of this place.
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And good for you for saying so. You are entitled to speak your mind. [Edited 10/30/16 15:12pm] | |
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Actually, it was the tree. I should have heeded Joan Armatrading's advice…
“Sometimes People Don't Want To Hear The Truth Because They Don't Want Their Illusions Destroyed” — Friedrich Nietzsche | |
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sonshine said: As I just posted in the other thread: I'm sure prince would rather his fans were discussing his music and his accomplishments than the sensitive issues surrounding his death. When some of the folks here find themselves in the shoes of people closest to Prince then maybe they will understand how nothing and everything is normal in these situations. They have no right to judge the actions of any of the people involved without being there and without first hand knowledge of the situation. Speculate all you want or move on. It's your choice. I'm trying to move forwsrd. Good luck to all of you. Btw what is a troll and why do people on these boards constantly hurl that name at anyone who doesn't agree with them? I didn't call anyone names or tell y'all what to do. I'm still hoping people will do the right thing on their own. There's a saying that you can't fix stupid. Sonshine, I'm NOT sure Prince would whether we be discussing that . We are discussing some evils that Prince himself discussed with us, do evidently he would want us to discuss it. Now what if Prince really was murdered, do you actually think he would want us not to speculate? I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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And good for you for saying so. You are entitled to speak your mind. [Edited 10/30/16 15:12pm] Thank you. I hope I get proven otherwise so I don't have this desire for revenge in my heart. I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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When we say the Queen, are you referring to the Queen of England? | |
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Well people in hell want ice water and they are not going to get any. You are not going to stop seeing people called out. disch said: never said i felt sorry for anyone. I do think people should be really careful about casually tossing around insinutations about crimes when no one's been charged. When/if someone is charged/convicted -- that's another story. - And for what is probably the 10 millionth time here: I believe whatever homicide investigation is going on may result in 3rd-degree homicide charges (i.e., supplying illegal drugs that result in a fatal OD) being leveled against P's dealer. I do not think first-degree homicide charges are even remotely likely. I've said why many times. - And that's my cue to duck back out of this place.
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Cloveringold85, what are you insinuating that I am late to the conversation? I have been here since the beginning of this death thread and have been here peacefully posting. I just happen to have the opinion that P was dependent on opiates and is the victim of a fentanyl laced pill that he was totally unaware of. I agree with most of what Sonshine has said and in most of my earlier posts, I spoke about opiate addiction and suboxone treatment. I am not so close-minded that I can't find interest in and be open to other's thoughts such as the possibility that P was suffering from another illness or illness brought on by his opiate usage. I also am appreciative of zenarose's never-ending research on which often helps us to remember information when we have trouble keeping it straight! I don't condone bashing of anyone - including those we may not agree with or find abrasive - they all play a part in helping us define what makes sense to us and what doesn't. That being said, all of these types of conversations were active in THIS thread and the Queen and other such theories were active in the other. Think we're all on the same page - justice for P if there were wrongdoing! "Remember when you told me that love was touching souls?" ☔️ A Case of You ☔️ | |
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phatphuk said:
Goodness....I have been missing out on Joan Armatrading's artistry! Thanks for sharing that. And, btw, I loved the weeping willow tree in the yard of my childhood home. Spent many a summer day reading there. Always felt safe & sheltered! I think we may have derailed the thread... "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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Somebdy spelled lightning incorrectly. | |
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Seriously? Where is basic human compassion? Being a witness is a far cry from being considered a suspect. Witnesses may in fact be the gas station attendant or the clerk at Walgreens or others that we don't even know about because it is an ongoing investigation. Obtaining council was a rational decision that 99% of people in the same circumstances would do. Claming up?? Again, assumptions about things you don't know. How do you or anyone on this thread know what the Carver County police or DEA have said to those in the circle or the family? Since the investigation is ongoing the less public comments made-the better. That's common sense-you don't want people giving interviews that may tip off the actual suspect or blow the case in a trial.
And yes, I do "feel sorry for people who are alive and well". Last time I checked none of us are relatives, friends or those in the circle. Who are we as fans to have the arrogance to think our pain and grief is worse than theirs? They have been through the hell of loosing a loved one, who was a frequent fixture in their lives, unexpectedly. And then to make it worse, fans of his-who don't have a clue about what really happened-yes, that's ALL of us at this point-publicly slander them by accusing them of murder?? Imagine being accused of murdering your best friend, your sibling, your spouse or your child. These are real people, for heavensake. They have lives and families. "Calling them out" with NO factual, legitimate evidence provided to you by the investigators is irresponsible, slanderous and cruel.
Honestly, I understand now why Prince was so private. Since his passing, his fans have gotten all into his personal business, making wild speculations and accusations all in the guise of "finding the truth." The cold, hard truth is, as much as our nosy little minds would all like to know the details, it's simply none of our damn business. We are not owed an explanation. We have zero right to anything. In the end Prince is still gone and all the investigations and information learned about his passing will not change that fact. If we respected his privacy in life, we should respect it in death as well.
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cloveringold85 said:
. If people would only take the time to read (not saying you, Olivia) about the history of the Royal Family, then they would know the truth. Ignorance is a choice; I don't think humans were born that way. . Prince himself was even quoted saying that there was some weird shit that went on at WB parties; orgy's, satanic rituals . Ever see the movie "Eyes wide shut?"The music industry is very satanic. All you have to do is watch the award shows (satanic rituals), and watch Beyonce & Rihanna's videos to see all the satanic symbols and rituals. The music industry puts all this out for the mindless sheeple, and they buy into it, and not really knowing what they are seeing. But, some people are wising-up. . If people want to be ignorant, that's their choice.
[Edited 10/30/16 12:46pm] cloveringold85....please share the link to your statement I have bolded. Thanks in advance. "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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NotACleverName said: phatphuk said:
Goodness....I have been missing out on Joan Armatrading's artistry! Thanks for sharing that. And, btw, I loved the weeping willow tree in the yard of my childhood home. Spent many a summer day reading there. Always felt safe & sheltered! I think we may have derailed the thread... -- Well that was the plan was it not. | |
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Oh Yeah! Joannie is the real Queen of England in my book! ¦: د ) Another musical genius in her own right. I've always wondered if Prince was a fan of hers. “Sometimes People Don't Want To Hear The Truth Because They Don't Want Their Illusions Destroyed” — Friedrich Nietzsche | |
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laurarichardson said: NotACleverName said: Goodness....I have been missing out on Joan Armatrading's artistry! Thanks for sharing that. And, btw, I loved the weeping willow tree in the yard of my childhood home. Spent many a summer day reading there. Always felt safe & sheltered! I think we may have derailed the thread... -- Well that was the plan was it not. Hi laura....no, it was not. Just having a conversation with my pal. phatphuk....care to chimed in? "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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Fatfuck disrespects the person who STARTED The Org and makes Prince's ash container his avatar? Brand new boogie without the hero. | |
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teach49 said:
When we say the Queen, are you referring to the Queen of England? Yes but I never said she killed him, I always said Warners did and have said she probably wanted him also. I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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Well. I typically scroll past that one's posts and avoid reading them at all costs. But since it's you asking, NotA… Let's see. As near as I can tell, the way the prince.org TOS works is: every other prince.org member — except you {NotA} and moi — are allowed to discuss in this thread, stuff that should be discussed in a different thread. So I think that one is attempting to impose their privileged double standard on us. That's the best I've been able to figure out anyway. “Sometimes People Don't Want To Hear The Truth Because They Don't Want Their Illusions Destroyed” — Friedrich Nietzsche | |
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Since you saved all of my posts you would have that information. I speak very plainly on that in those deleated threads. Go and look through what you have saved and read them.
I will message you at work tomorrow.
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I'm not even surprised at your reply, muleFunk. I went back and reread five or six exchanges between you and I. And in each one of those exchanges your "answers" to all of the questions I asked you, were at best, vague. And at worst, straight-up evasive. I can take a hint. When a person ducks and dodges the way you have in those exchanges I just read — in which you couldn't even give a simple "Yes or No" answer to a simple "Yes or No" question — then I know I'm never gonna get any satisfactory answers from that person. So nevermind about messaging me. Thanks just the same though. Incidentally. I foresee a successful future in store for you Sir, as a politician ¦; د ) “Sometimes People Don't Want To Hear The Truth Because They Don't Want Their Illusions Destroyed” — Friedrich Nietzsche | |
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+1 It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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