PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

Why would he be in the elavator? Why not just take his pill and wait to be found? Why not leave a note even if it was just for his sister. Why did he have plans set up until August? Why not just stay in the hospital if the withdrawals were that bad?

Agree P was not thinking his life was going to end. He may have had suspicions on why he was not feeling well and had Dr S run tests that he never got to see the results of. Plus he wasn't having withdrawals, the narcan shot given in Moline had no bad side effects on P, he was clean. That why he was able to be up and around so soon. Until someone gave him the fentanyl.

Right. So he did not OD on the plane, right? What happened then? Why is the family allowing that narrative?

fortuneandserendipity said:

oliviacamron said:

fortuneandserendipity said: Fantasy? I want my life back but I have no peace. When someone you love died,and you believe someone hurt them but the truth ain't out, it's terrible! I want to be wrong. I say Warners/ Illuminati killed Prince, I hope I find out different so I can let go.

I think most people's starting point is wrong. They're imagining P to be this infallible person who had no insecurities. Then they rationalise that someone else must be to blame.

The whole illuminati concept is a misnomer btw, and just feeds conspiracy theories.

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Certainly no one here is implying that Prince was a saint. None of us are perfect.

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Prince himself even spoke openly about the Illuminati, NWO, Chemtrails and corrupt government. I have great respect for Prince because he had the courage to speak out on what was wrong in the world. He was an intelligent person, not some nut case!! You call us nuts is the same thing as calling Prince nuts, as far as I'm concerned.

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Prince was about the truth, peace and justice and that is all we want for him -- he deserves nothing less.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Actually it was a pisstake of mulefunk, but obviously you weren't paying attention. Not surprising as you're one of the nuts.

Manslaughter is homicide. But it doesn't contravene suicide. The police are not interested in determining this suicide, because without a note there's no conclusive proof. But for your information, I consider it to be both.

Lastly, there are too many nuts who believe in the strong possibility of a premeditated killing. So it's my job to disabuse them of their fantastical beliefs.

-----But for your information, I consider it to be both.

No one cares what you think. This is a homicide investigation. You are the one that thinks the ME does not know what she is doing because you know more than she does.

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Laura, this is not directed at you, but for those of you who chose to ignore the latest developments regarding the death of Prince. This is an on-going homicide investigation. Meaning it's not a closed case -- we still don't have ALL the facts.

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It almost seems to me that some people here would be happy if the authorities just closed this case and forget about it. This is sad, I must say. Don't you think Prince deserves the respect and to at least have a thorough investigation?

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Good Lord, help us!!

fortuneandserendipity said:

oliviacamron said:

fortuneandserendipity said: Fantasy? I want my life back but I have no peace. When someone you love died,and you believe someone hurt them but the truth ain't out, it's terrible! I want to be wrong. I say Warners/ Illuminati killed Prince, I hope I find out different so I can let go.

I think most people's starting point is wrong. They're imagining P to be this infallible person who had no insecurities. Then they rationalise that someone else must be to blame.

The whole illuminati concept is a misnomer btw, and just feeds conspiracy theories.

imagining P to be this infallible person

More bullshit. No one thinks he was infallible I never got the impression he thought that about himself.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I think most people's starting point is wrong. They're imagining P to be this infallible person who had no insecurities. Then they rationalise that someone else must be to blame.

The whole illuminati concept is a misnomer btw, and just feeds conspiracy theories.

imagining P to be this infallible person

More bullshit. No one thinks he was infallible I never got the impression he thought that about himself.

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Me either. In fact, Prince himself said that he was not proud of things he did early in his career. I read an article once that made me sad -- about the loss of his Son. Prince said he felt he was being punished for things he did. He matured a lot, and became a better person. But, he never said he was perfect, nor do most people here think he was infallible.

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MMJas said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said: Agree P was not thinking his life was going to end. He may have had suspicions on why he was not feeling well and had Dr S run tests that he never got to see the results of. Plus he wasn't having withdrawals, the narcan shot given in Moline had no bad side effects on P, he was clean. That why he was able to be up and around so soon. Until someone gave him the fentanyl.

Right. So he did not OD on the plane, right? What happened then? Why is the family allowing that narrative?

We really don't know what happend on the plane or at the hospital. They give Narcan for people who are unresponsive not just o.d. This whole o.d. thing came from TMZ. What Judith described did not fit the behavior of someone who had narcan shot and even Dr. Drew said what she described sounded to him like a seziure.

The Moline information is missing and would explain a lot.

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Right. So he did not OD on the plane, right? What happened then? Why is the family allowing that narrative?

We really don't know what happend on the plane or at the hospital. They give Narcan for people who are unresponsive not just o.d. This whole o.d. thing came from TMZ. What Judith described did not fit the behavior of someone who had narcan shot and even Dr. Drew said what she described sounded to him like a seziure.

The Moline information is missing and would explain a lot.

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Yes. Good point. I was thinking the same thing. Dr. Drew said it sounded like a "seizure".

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I'm begnning to think that it wasn't an OD at all, and he wasn't given Narcan. TMZ made all that up to get clicks.

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Furthermore, I'm starting to think that someone's been feeding TMZ all this BS, because TMZ were the first to break all this news.....from the airplane until April 21st.

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[Edited 10/25/16 17:29pm]

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

-----But for your information, I consider it to be both.

No one cares what you think. This is a homicide investigation. You are the one that thinks the ME does not know what she is doing because you know more than she does.

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Laura, this is not directed at you, but for those of you who chose to ignore the latest developments regarding the death of Prince. This is an on-going homicide investigation. Meaning it's not a closed case -- we still don't have ALL the facts.

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It almost seems to me that some people here would be happy if the authorities just closed this case and forget about it. This is sad, I must say. Don't you think Prince deserves the respect and to at least have a thorough investigation?

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Good Lord, help us!!

Well they are not closing the case and it is not going away. They have keep this case open for six months because they have some idea about what happened. Now if they can prove it will be a whole different matter but I hope his family presses for justice. It does not matter if someone gave him that stuff on purpose or made a mistake they were doing something very stupid either way and should not get off the hook.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Laura, this is not directed at you, but for those of you who chose to ignore the latest developments regarding the death of Prince. This is an on-going homicide investigation. Meaning it's not a closed case -- we still don't have ALL the facts.

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It almost seems to me that some people here would be happy if the authorities just closed this case and forget about it. This is sad, I must say. Don't you think Prince deserves the respect and to at least have a thorough investigation?

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Good Lord, help us!!

Well they are not closing the case and it is not going away. They have keep this case open for six months because they have some idea about what happened. Now if they can prove it will be a whole different matter but I hope his family presses for justice. It does not matter if someone gave him that stuff on purpose or made a mistake they were doing something very stupid either way and should not get off the hook.

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I agree. I'm glad they are keeping this investigation open -- there's much more to do.

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I pray for truth justice and hope it will put a lot of our minds at ease, finally!!

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Sweet Jesus he is beautiful!! My fav look for him ever ....with the long straight hair and facial hair. [Edited 10/24/16 16:19pm]

that's a good one

Sorry to be off topic as well but hell yes absolutely sizzlin' hot...Dont shoot me but in this photo he sorta looks like a younger Dave Navarro.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Actually it was a pisstake of mulefunk, but obviously you weren't paying attention. Not surprising as you're one of the nuts.

Manslaughter is homicide. But it doesn't contravene suicide. The police are not interested in determining this suicide, because without a note there's no conclusive proof. But for your information, I consider it to be both.

Lastly, there are too many nuts who believe in the strong possibility of a premeditated killing. So it's my job to disabuse them of their fantastical beliefs.

-----But for your information, I consider it to be both.

No one cares what you think. This is a homicide investigation. You are the one that thinks the ME does not know what she is doing because you know more than she does.

And you're the one who thinks that the ME is infallible and has sufficient basis on which to rule out suicide. She didn't have. So she should have marked the box 'undetermined'. Of course that wouldn't make sense to you, because your logic is fuckwit logic.

joytotheworld said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Mkilpatrick74 said: that's a good one

Sorry to be off topic as well but hell yes absolutely sizzlin' hot...Dont shoot me but in this photo he sorta looks like a younger Dave Navarro.

Nah...the only thing Dave had in common with Prince, was Carmen.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I think most people's starting point is wrong. They're imagining P to be this infallible person who had no insecurities. Then they rationalise that someone else must be to blame.

The whole illuminati concept is a misnomer btw, and just feeds conspiracy theories.

imagining P to be this infallible person

More bullshit. No one thinks he was infallible I never got the impression he thought that about himself.

People on this thread and others consistently convey impression P could do no wrong, that it was the fault of others in not helping him. JH, Warners, the doctors involved towards the end. Check again potstirrer.

And I think you're the person who bullshits more than most, just on account of being the biggest potstirrer around.

cloveringold85 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I think most people's starting point is wrong. They're imagining P to be this infallible person who had no insecurities. Then they rationalise that someone else must be to blame.

The whole illuminati concept is a misnomer btw, and just feeds conspiracy theories.

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Certainly no one here is implying that Prince was a saint. None of us are perfect.

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Prince himself even spoke openly about the Illuminati, NWO, Chemtrails and corrupt government. I have great respect for Prince because he had the courage to speak out on what was wrong in the world. He was an intelligent person, not some nut case!! You call us nuts is the same thing as calling Prince nuts, as far as I'm concerned.

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Prince was about the truth, peace and justice and that is all we want for him -- he deserves nothing less.

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I would not rely on Prince for any insight into issues outside music. He was into conspiracy theories.

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Chemtrails, new world order, illuminati and also the stuff around the third eye pineal gland are all conspiracy theories that have been debunkend again and again. So thoroughly debunked and so easy to debunk that it is astounding anyone who went through high school could still believe this rubbish. But there you go.

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Prince also believed that the word God has been deliberately deleted from the Bible to control people. That is based on JW doctrine and plain ignorant. The practice of using the word Lord instead of the Tetragrammaton is based on a custom/law in Judaism not to pronounce the name of God in its original Hebrew form YHWH and say the word Adonai in its place which means My Lord or My Master. Hence the translations of the Hebrew Bible used the word Lord in those places where the Hebrew says YHWH.

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Superconductor said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Certainly no one here is implying that Prince was a saint. None of us are perfect.

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Prince himself even spoke openly about the Illuminati, NWO, Chemtrails and corrupt government. I have great respect for Prince because he had the courage to speak out on what was wrong in the world. He was an intelligent person, not some nut case!! You call us nuts is the same thing as calling Prince nuts, as far as I'm concerned.

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Prince was about the truth, peace and justice and that is all we want for him -- he deserves nothing less.

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I would not rely on Prince for any insight into issues outside music. He was into conspiracy theories.

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Chemtrails, new world order, illuminati and also the stuff around the third eye pineal gland are all conspiracy theories that have been debunkend again and again. So thoroughly debunked and so easy to debunk that it is astounding anyone who went through high school could still believe this rubbish. But there you go.

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Prince also believed that the word God has been deliberately deleted from the Bible to control people. That is based on JW doctrine and plain ignorant. The practice of using the word Lord instead of the Tetragrammaton is based on a custom/law in Judaism not to pronounce the name of God in its original Hebrew form YHWH and say the word Adonai in its place which means My Lord or My Master. Hence the translations of the Hebrew Bible used the word Lord in those places where the Hebrew says YHWH.

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All true I think. At one point I was more suspecting there was something to chemtrails because of the high level of metals found in soil pretty much everywhere. Believing, for example, that copious amounts of barium and aluminium derived from them. (Alas, if you believe everything you read) But now I'm more inclined to think it's power stations that are the main culprit. One thing's for sure we're making our planet sick and our planet is making us sick. Starting with the evidence from some on this thread

MMJas said:

cloveringold85 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Superconductor said:

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I would not rely on Prince for any insight into issues outside music. He was into conspiracy theories.

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Chemtrails, new world order, illuminati and also the stuff around the third eye pineal gland are all conspiracy theories that have been debunkend again and again. So thoroughly debunked and so easy to debunk that it is astounding anyone who went through high school could still believe this rubbish. But there you go.

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Prince also believed that the word God has been deliberately deleted from the Bible to control people. That is based on JW doctrine and plain ignorant. The practice of using the word Lord instead of the Tetragrammaton is based on a custom/law in Judaism not to pronounce the name of God in its original Hebrew form YHWH and say the word Adonai in its place which means My Lord or My Master. Hence the translations of the Hebrew Bible used the word Lord in those places where the Hebrew says YHWH.

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All true I think. At one point I was more suspecting there was something to chemtrails because of the high level of metals found in soil pretty much everywhere. Believing, for example, that copious amounts of barium and aluminium derived from them. (Alas, if you believe everything you read) But now I'm more inclined to think it's power stations that are the main culprit. One thing's for sure we're making our planet sick and our planet is making us sick. Starting with the evidence from some on this thread

Water is a problem, too. There are so many places in the US where water is not monitored well, along with the many nuclear waste sites where the toxins were not dumped properly and have seeped into the groundwater. There are so many ways that we are exposed to toxins that there's no need for a chemtrail conspiracy. However, I do believe that poor and working class neighborhoods are often at risk for toxins, since the powers that be don't want such things close to where they live, if you know what I mean. And I don't mean that in a conspiratorial way, but in a subtle way that is rooted in classism and racism.

If Prince had seizures as a child, maybe they were coming back as an adult. Just a thought.

Superconductor said:

oliviacamron said:

Prince definitely had plans and it was not to die. In August 2015 Prince has 10 all black reporters to his home to announce his plans to overthrow the music industry!!! I can't post the links , as there are more than one article but Google it. The Root.com August 10 th, 2015. Article BY Brian Monroe : PRINCE compares music industry to slavery.

sonshine said:

oliviacamron said:

Prince definitely had plans and it was not to die. In August 2015 Prince has 10 all black reporters to his home to announce his plans to overthrow the music industry!!! I can't post the links , as there are more than one article but Google it. The Root.com August 10 th, 2015. Article BY Brian Monroe : PRINCE compares music industry to slavery.

I agree. And it's what makes the process of grieving his loss so damn hard. He should still be here. His death was sudden and unexpected. I'm glad people want to find those responsible (if that scenario fits this situation) and hold them accountable. But I do wish people would calm down, take a deep breath, and ease up on the endless speculation and personal theories about his last days on earth. He would be mortified by the liberties people are taking in discussing his very private life and very personal matters. Not to mention the nastiness of some org members towards others. This is not a time to fight with each other. Let the people working the investigation do their jobs. They will get to the bottom of this. It's very important for them to get this right. Prince was well respected here in MN. But also his is a high profile case at a time when the opioid epidemic has reached a critical point. His untimely and unfortunate death may be the turning point finally as his stature as someone famous got people's attention. The last thing any of us wants is to turn his death, the circumstances around it and the investigation into a circus. Sometimes that's what it feels like in these threads. I'm not judging anyone here or trying to tell anyone what to do. Prince was a pretty class act who attracted a lot of classy fans - all of us!

fortuneandserendipity said:

Superconductor said:

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I would not rely on Prince for any insight into issues outside music. He was into conspiracy theories.

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Chemtrails, new world order, illuminati and also the stuff around the third eye pineal gland are all conspiracy theories that have been debunkend again and again. So thoroughly debunked and so easy to debunk that it is astounding anyone who went through high school could still believe this rubbish. But there you go.

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Prince also believed that the word God has been deliberately deleted from the Bible to control people. That is based on JW doctrine and plain ignorant. The practice of using the word Lord instead of the Tetragrammaton is based on a custom/law in Judaism not to pronounce the name of God in its original Hebrew form YHWH and say the word Adonai in its place which means My Lord or My Master. Hence the translations of the Hebrew Bible used the word Lord in those places where the Hebrew says YHWH.

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All true I think. At one point I was more suspecting there was something to chemtrails because of the high level of metals found in soil pretty much everywhere. Believing, for example, that copious amounts of barium and aluminium derived from them. (Alas, if you believe everything you read) But now I'm more inclined to think it's power stations that are the main culprit. One thing's for sure we're making our planet sick and our planet is making us sick. Starting with the evidence from some on this thread

Yeah there is certainly some sick stuff being posted in this endless death thread.

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Re the other thing. There could be many sources for heavy metals in soils. Certainly could be transported by air but from a plane 10,000 m up high? Lol, very inefficient way of distribution. Much more likely a source closer to the ground or in the ground e.g. factories, traffic, building materials, paints, even some fertilisers or pesticides etc.

oliviacamron said:

Go to the Prince curiosity and conspiracys thread. Dibblekins posted a YouTube video from Prince tour Piano and microphone March in Toronto. In the clip, at ten minutes and 30 seconds in(10:30) Prince starts singing in creepy voice" YOU KNOW YOU LEFT ME". Then Prince says Kirk's name singing about a conflict they are having!!!!!!

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The song is called 'Use Me' - and P's take on the lyrics is very interesting...

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fortuneandserendipity said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

MMJas said:

Right. So he did not OD on the plane, right? What happened then? Why is the family allowing that narrative?

You are right, We never heard what happened on the plane. The only thing Prince said was don't believe what you hear in the media.

So it makes sense that it was a seizure and not an OD.

Dibblekins said: