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Reply #540 posted 10/24/16 2:34pm

PurpleDiamonds
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cloveringold85 said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


cloveringold85 said:


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Prince was feminine as hell? LMAO!!


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Sexy? Umm....YEAH!! Feminine? Hell to the no!! lol





yeahthat Sexy is correct!

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I guess it's just me but I never saw Prince as being "feminine". His presence was very "masculine" on-stage and in interviews.



Oh yes...he was all MALE!
One of the nicest looking men I have ever seen.
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Reply #541 posted 10/24/16 2:37pm

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ladygirl99 said:

muleFunk said:

Hints:

WB drops AOA instead of Purple Rain 30.

Saturday Night Live lets Prince blow up the show with the longest performance in show history.

P&M Tour Concept

The Vanity Passing

The murder theories are not asillogical as it would seem because the pill was illegal and whoever obtained this pill can be charged with murder. Prince may have been dying but April 21 was unexpected.

So you actually believed Prince murdered? Yes Prince helped generated the record company money but Warner Brothers is a big company and to them Prince was small potatoes. What about AT&T? Are they in the plot? I am asking because they just bought Time Warner and they happened to be parent of Warner Brothers. I believed the industry knew beforehand but I don't think they murder Prince. And why are fans are the only one screaming out murder and justice? Not Prince family and his camp who all pretty much accept what happen and not being suspicious.

Sorry dude but I am going to trust his sister of the ET. Not everything is a conspiracy. Some P fans are denial that Prince is human and human does things that not always pretty and comfortable.

And finally when it comes to death there is no such thing as unexpected. It is going to come whether it is intentional or unintentional. Have you heard the saying we born to die? And the likes of Prince is no exceptional to this.

Did I say WB killed Prince?

No.

However the fact that fake Vicodin pill was found means that this was a murder (negligent homicide) where the death wasn't (supposedly) intended. Now when millions of dollars are involved and the fact that there are many,many strange things surrounding this case I stand on the fact that there could have been something complex at work here.

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Reply #542 posted 10/24/16 2:44pm

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Trouble is that even though he signed some kind of deal with WB in 2014 he was still in dispute with them with plans for remasters, he instead wanted to release new music and kept refusing their requests for PR and other moneyspinning. So he was causing an inconvenient obstruction giving them a massive motive to make sure he was 'accidentally' given the wrong pills knowing that he had no will (or making sure it was suppressed). Of course they didn't do it directly, they hired someone to do it or incentivised a traitor in his inner circle. He is quoted as saying he believed there was a Judas around him in his final days. How many pharmacists do you know that make those kind of mistakes? It's not likely, more likely it was seen as a safe way to kill him knowing that the public would be fooled by the usual drug overdose story that so many other stars have had.



if not WB then we can also say the extended family have a motive too, they stand to gain massively from this financially and many of them didn't even know him.



However, I feel the WB motive is strongest, this is turning out very convenient to them, a compilation coming out for Christmas and a PR version now including outtakes which i believe he previoiusly resisted. And now rights to releases for years and years and years as there can be no obstructions from him.




Hmm....sorry folks may sound too conspiracy like but I just don't buy this whole accidental thing, it's way too convenient and us real fans know that Prince was not a druggie, hell even his closest associates never saw him take so much as a paracetamol.



Agree...
I don't think what you said sounds conspiracy at all. I find the media BS we have been given to be conspiracy lies.
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Reply #543 posted 10/24/16 2:49pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I guess it's just me but I never saw Prince as being "feminine". His presence was very "masculine" on-stage and in interviews.

Oh yes...he was all MALE! One of the nicest looking men I have ever seen.

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I know, we are getting off-topic here, but can you say HOT HOT HOT!! LOL lol

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What a beautiful Man!!

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Image result for prince rogers nelson sexy

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #544 posted 10/24/16 4:19pm

Mkilpatrick74

cloveringold85 said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


cloveringold85 said:


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I guess it's just me but I never saw Prince as being "feminine". His presence was very "masculine" on-stage and in interviews.




Oh yes...he was all MALE! One of the nicest looking men I have ever seen.

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I know, we are getting off-topic here, but can you say HOT HOT HOT!! LOL lol


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What a beautiful Man!!


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Image result for prince rogers nelson sexy




Sweet Jesus he is beautiful!! My fav look for him ever ....with the long straight hair and facial hair.
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Reply #545 posted 10/24/16 4:44pm

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terrig said:

tmo1965 said:

So I wonder will the search warrant be made public tomorrow?

http://www.co.carver.mn.u...nt?id=7355



This was posted a few minutes ago....

http://www.fox9.com/news/213321412-story

it states the investigation is an 'active homicide investigation'.

sad

Wasn't the search warrant already leaked-like months ago? Or is this a different one? The verbage used is very unsettling-"active homicide investigation" We have some clues though-they must be through with Paisley-and the circle/staff there or they never would have allowed it to open to all that traffic. I'm feeling that they're looking at someone outside and my gut tells me they're getting close. Thank God. All this time I thought they had pretty much abandoned any real investigation, but it appears they are waiting on something or someone to slip up.

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Reply #546 posted 10/24/16 4:53pm

PurpleDiamonds
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Mkilpatrick74 said:

cloveringold85 said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


cloveringold85 said:


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I guess it's just me but I never saw Prince as being "feminine". His presence was very "masculine" on-stage and in interviews.




Oh yes...he was all MALE! One of the nicest looking men I have ever seen.

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I know, we are getting off-topic here, but can you say HOT HOT HOT!! LOL lol


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What a beautiful Man!!


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Image result for prince rogers nelson sexy




Sweet Jesus he is beautiful!! My fav look for him ever ....with the long straight hair and facial hair.
[Edited 10/24/16 16:19pm]

yes that's a good one nod
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Reply #547 posted 10/24/16 5:00pm

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Nooriginalusername said:



terrig said:




tmo1965 said:


So I wonder will the search warrant be made public tomorrow?


http://www.co.carver.mn.u...nt?id=7355





This was posted a few minutes ago....

http://www.fox9.com/news/213321412-story

it states the investigation is an 'active homicide investigation'.

sad




Wasn't the search warrant already leaked-like months ago? Or is this a different one? The verbage used is very unsettling-"active homicide investigation" We have some clues though-they must be through with Paisley-and the circle/staff there or they never would have allowed it to open to all that traffic. I'm feeling that they're looking at someone outside and my gut tells me they're getting close. Thank God. All this time I thought they had pretty much abandoned any real investigation, but it appears they are waiting on something or someone to slip up.


Good point.
I was thinking the search warrant that was leaked was the one for The dr in Minnesota. And this search warrant the DEA is wanting to keep sealed was from PP?
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Reply #548 posted 10/24/16 5:23pm

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Just remember that EVERY TIME a positive Prince story comes up (new music) you will hear a new tidbit of his death.

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Reply #549 posted 10/24/16 5:25pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Nooriginalusername said:

Wasn't the search warrant already leaked-like months ago? Or is this a different one? The verbage used is very unsettling-"active homicide investigation" We have some clues though-they must be through with Paisley-and the circle/staff there or they never would have allowed it to open to all that traffic. I'm feeling that they're looking at someone outside and my gut tells me they're getting close. Thank God. All this time I thought they had pretty much abandoned any real investigation, but it appears they are waiting on something or someone to slip up.

Good point. I was thinking the search warrant that was leaked was the one for The dr in Minnesota. And this search warrant the DEA is wanting to keep sealed was from PP?

You're right, here's a link to the leaked warrant

http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1prince051116.pdf

which is Dr. S., there is also one for the Walgreens and PP that haven't been made public to my knowledge. I bet these warrants are more specific about what they are looking for-i.e. phone records, personal computers, security footage-could even cover his vehicles on the premises. I am perfectly fine with it staying sealed if it leads to the answer of what happened and who is responsible for the counterfeit pills.

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Reply #550 posted 10/24/16 6:51pm

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Nooriginalusername said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


Nooriginalusername said:



Wasn't the search warrant already leaked-like months ago? Or is this a different one? The verbage used is very unsettling-"active homicide investigation" We have some clues though-they must be through with Paisley-and the circle/staff there or they never would have allowed it to open to all that traffic. I'm feeling that they're looking at someone outside and my gut tells me they're getting close. Thank God. All this time I thought they had pretty much abandoned any real investigation, but it appears they are waiting on something or someone to slip up.



Good point. I was thinking the search warrant that was leaked was the one for The dr in Minnesota. And this search warrant the DEA is wanting to keep sealed was from PP?

You're right, here's a link to the leaked warrant


http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/1prince051116.pdf


which is Dr. S., there is also one for the Walgreens and PP that haven't been made public to my knowledge. I bet these warrants are more specific about what they are looking for-i.e. phone records, personal computers, security footage-could even cover his vehicles on the premises. I am perfectly fine with it staying sealed if it leads to the answer of what happened and who is responsible for the counterfeit pills.


Agree .... Keep it sealed if it means finding all involved.
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Reply #551 posted 10/24/16 6:55pm

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muleFunk said:

Just remember that EVERY TIME a positive Prince story comes up (new music) you will hear a new tidbit of his death.


Hmmmm just like a shirt that use to be for sale on NPGMC
Warn a Brother
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Reply #552 posted 10/24/16 11:09pm

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Let them keep it sealed - sounds like they are on to something. Looking at all of the confusing statements made by family & associates takes on a new meaning for me now. There are things they know that they are not going to chance revealing. From "there's more to the story" to Tyka's conflicting statements - perhaps they are deliberately putting out statements to create confusion and speculation so that the general public and "potential further witnesses" are thrown off as well! I say keep it up if that will aid in bringing justice!
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Reply #553 posted 10/24/16 11:49pm

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muleFunk said:

Just remember that EVERY TIME a positive Prince story comes up (new music) you will hear a new tidbit of his death.


So they're playing us ? What I mean by that is they like stirring up Prince talk at the the same they want us to know about something we can buy from them
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #554 posted 10/25/16 1:03am

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muleFunk said:

Just remember that EVERY TIME a positive Prince story comes up (new music) you will hear a new tidbit of his death.

You keep reminding us of that. Damn right.

On a side note... am sick of threads being locked. Cannot have a decent discussion...

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Reply #555 posted 10/25/16 1:47am

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muleFunk said:

Just remember that EVERY TIME a positive Prince story comes up (new music) you will hear a new tidbit of his death.


-- You were saying that months ago and people on this board did not want to listen. We are seeing media mulipatation in all of its glory.
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Reply #556 posted 10/25/16 2:45am

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See you conspiracy nuts later wave

I'm off on holiday somewhere to commit suicide. That is unless somebody kills me first smile

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #557 posted 10/25/16 3:26am

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Mumio said:

laurarichardson said:

She was clear you just do not want to hear what she has to say and why would she just say something to stir up controversy? For what purpose? Do you not understand she is going to be an heir to the estate.



yeahthat Tyka can say what she was told directly by Prince, but she can't dictate how people are going to interpret her words nor make them believe her. I just took what she said at face value, as you said, she will be an heir to the estate. But I've said he was terminally ill since the very beginning anyway so it wasn't hard to accept what she said.

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I find it hard to fully commit my oppinion entirely to one theory.

Those comments by Tyka in one way have me consider the terminal illness theory a bit more deeply but I dont feel convinced about that.

It seems quite possible to interpret what she said that way, but when I saw her in another interview around the same week she didnt say that and I think she said I dont recall exactly what she said but it seemed to slightly contradict or sound quite different to what she said in other interview.

So hard to know for certain but I guess there could be link to her comments and the T.I theory.

I think their could be various reasons as to why P presentation changed over last few years and it may well have been related to illness but not necessarily terminal illness, it may hav been related to pain med addiction and withdrawals. I suppose it could been lots of things... I think when people are older there looks can change more dramatically when affected by things like pain, lack of sleep or depression than perhaps much younger people that may experience same things.

Also it seems P was planning to do more concerts, I read that there was talk of him returning to Australia in November for more concerts, so hearing stuff like that makes the terminal illness theory seem a bit strange.

I await some type of official revelation that most of the sources closest to Prince agree upon, to find out what really happened.

I am presently open minded to several possible explanations and I know this is a very Switzerland position to take but I just dont feel personally convinced enough about any single theory to claim that I have a good idea/theory as to what the hell happened.

The only thing I feel convinced about is ... 1) The real story is not and has not been told.

2) So far for whatever reasons there is a cover up going on about the whole thing.

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Reply #558 posted 10/25/16 3:54am

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ladygirl99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Prince was feminine as hell? LMAO!!

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Sexy? Umm....YEAH!! Feminine? Hell to the no!! lol

So I guess you are going to dismiss that Prince once said he felt like a girl inside him and he said this on Oprah interview in 1996 which was taped shortly after Amir (his son) died. Even Robin Power said when she was on the org answering people question that made love to Prince was like making love to a woman. Check out the search box here for Robin Power and interview.

Check out youtube and search for Oprah Prince 1996 interview if is still up there. And Wendy Melvoin always said Prince was a better girl than she was because Wendy is what consider in my community a stem (stud and fem) similar to talk show host Ellen.

Of course I embraced Prince's feminity I am just saying that Prince did feminine things and had mannerisms. That is why I believed he took matter in his own hands on April 21st that similarity a woman would do.

Amir, I thought his name was Gregory.

I always felt P had both feminine and masculine traits.

But overall I saw him perhaps as being more boyish masculine than mannish masculine.

I never really felt he was gay.

There are definitly guys that are not stereotypically the most masculine but are bat crazy about females.

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Reply #559 posted 10/25/16 5:34am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

See you conspiracy nuts later wave


I'm off on holiday somewhere to commit suicide. That is unless somebody kills me first smile


Bon voyage lol
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #560 posted 10/25/16 6:06am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

See you conspiracy nuts later wave


I'm off on holiday somewhere to commit suicide. That is unless somebody kills me first smile


-- Goodbye ✌🏿️
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Reply #561 posted 10/25/16 6:20am

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laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

See you conspiracy nuts later wave

I'm off on holiday somewhere to commit suicide. That is unless somebody kills me first smile

-- Goodbye ✌🏿️

Still here smile

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #562 posted 10/25/16 6:45am

Dibblekins

Link to the 'death investigation' thread (which has been closed, but had some useful information / discussion in it):

http://prince.org/msg/7/4...?&pg=1

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Reply #563 posted 10/25/16 7:16am

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oscarchristio777 said:



ladygirl99 said:




cloveringold85 said:



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Prince was feminine as hell? LMAO!!


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Sexy? Umm....YEAH!! Feminine? Hell to the no!! lol





So I guess you are going to dismiss that Prince once said he felt like a girl inside him and he said this on Oprah interview in 1996 which was taped shortly after Amir (his son) died. Even Robin Power said when she was on the org answering people question that made love to Prince was like making love to a woman. Check out the search box here for Robin Power and interview.



Check out youtube and search for Oprah Prince 1996 interview if is still up there. And Wendy Melvoin always said Prince was a better girl than she was because Wendy is what consider in my community a stem (stud and fem) similar to talk show host Ellen.



Of course I embraced Prince's feminity I am just saying that Prince did feminine things and had mannerisms. That is why I believed he took matter in his own hands on April 21st that similarity a woman would do.



Amir, I thought his name was Gregory.



I always felt P had both feminine and masculine traits.


But overall I saw him perhaps as being more boyish masculine than mannish masculine.


I never really felt he was gay.


There are definitly guys that are not stereotypically the most masculine but are bat crazy about females.



/-- Mayte said their son was named Ahmir Garcia Nelson. I am sure she will have more to say when her book comes out.
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Reply #564 posted 10/25/16 8:49am

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fortuneandserendipity said:



phatphuk said:










Centers For Disease Control And Prevention — Current Trends Operational Criteria for Determining Suicide:





“...[A] working group representing coroners, medical examiners, statisticians, and public health agencies* developed operational criteria to assist coroners and medical examiners in determining suicide. Following are the working group's findings...









CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING SUICIDE





Self-Inflicted: There is evidence that death was self-inflicted. This may be determined by pathologic (autopsy), toxicologic, investigatory, and psychologic evidence and by statements of the decedent or witnesses.





Intent: There is evidence (explicit and/or implicit) that, at the time of injury, the decedent intended to kill himself/herself or wished to die and that the decedent understood the probable consequences of his/her actions. This evidence may include:





  • Explicit verbal or nonverbal expression of intent to kill self;


  • Implicit or indirect evidence of intent to die, such as

    • preparations for death inappropriate to or unexpected in the context of the decedent's life


    • expression of farewell or the desire to die or an acknowledgment of impending death


    • expression of hopelessness


    • expression of great emotional or physical pain or distress


    • effort to procure or learn about means of death or to rehearse fatal behavior


    • precautions to avoid rescue


    • evidence that decedent recognized high potential lethality of means of death


    • previous suicide attempt, previous suicide threat


    • stressful events or significant losses (actual or threatened), or serious depression or mental disorder...”















In other words, as TopazGirl's extraordinarily insightful post already pointed out, the Medical Examiner would have brought to bear, the weight of her education — her years of experience as a practicing pathologist — the investigative expertise of her law enforcement colleagues — and her expert command of logic — to analyze all of the points under the the Implicit or indirect evidence of intent to die list above to conclusively rule out suicide.





I would bet money that the fans who are nursing their suicide fixation, have none of those skills and expertise that Dr. A. Strobl has in spades.






She didn't know Prince though (probably one of the most private celebrities ever to have lived) and neither did most, if not all, of his closest company. That's the point, there's just too much conjecture here to know anything for certain.


She was doing inductive reasoning, which is supposition.



Withdrawal from opiates by all accounts is horrible, and people going through it don't see light at the end of the tunnel. There's no saying how bad he felt in those final hours, or even weeks, and there is no way the medical examiner can know enough to conclusively rule suicide out.



I'm not trying to project here , but I can speak from experience that withdrawals will make a strong willed Christian whos dead aet against suicide want to take her life and make the pain stop. Leave that person alone and it's a disaster in the making. You will do anything to make the pain and the withdrawals stop.
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Reply #565 posted 10/25/16 8:50am

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Reply #566 posted 10/25/16 9:53am

Mkilpatrick74

Can some one in law enforcement on here help me understand what they mean by "hold back information" in this request to keep docs sealed? Googling but can't seem to find an answer.
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Reply #567 posted 10/25/16 10:15am

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Mkilpatrick74 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

She didn't know Prince though (probably one of the most private celebrities ever to have lived) and neither did most, if not all, of his closest company. That's the point, there's just too much conjecture here to know anything for certain.

She was doing inductive reasoning, which is supposition.


Withdrawal from opiates by all accounts is horrible, and people going through it don't see light at the end of the tunnel. There's no saying how bad he felt in those final hours, or even weeks, and there is no way the medical examiner can know enough to conclusively rule suicide out.

I'm not trying to project here , but I can speak from experience that withdrawals will make a strong willed Christian whos dead aet against suicide want to take her life and make the pain stop. Leave that person alone and it's a disaster in the making. You will do anything to make the pain and the withdrawals stop.

Why would he be in the elavator? Why not just take his pill and wait to be found? Why not leave a note even if it was just for his sister. Why did he have plans set up until August? Why not just stay in the hospital if the withdrawals were that bad?

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Reply #568 posted 10/25/16 10:46am

Mkilpatrick74

laurarichardson said:



Mkilpatrick74 said:


fortuneandserendipity said:


She didn't know Prince though (probably one of the most private celebrities ever to have lived) and neither did most, if not all, of his closest company. That's the point, there's just too much conjecture here to know anything for certain.


She was doing inductive reasoning, which is supposition.



Withdrawal from opiates by all accounts is horrible, and people going through it don't see light at the end of the tunnel. There's no saying how bad he felt in those final hours, or even weeks, and there is no way the medical examiner can know enough to conclusively rule suicide out.





I'm not trying to project here , but I can speak from experience that withdrawals will make a strong willed Christian whos dead aet against suicide want to take her life and make the pain stop. Leave that person alone and it's a disaster in the making. You will do anything to make the pain and the withdrawals stop.

Why would he be in the elavator? Why not just take his pill and wait to be found? Why not leave a note even if it was just for his sister. Why did he have plans set up until August? Why not just stay in the hospital if the withdrawals were that bad?



I ask those same questions....I'm not 100% feeling like this is what happened, but I can't seem to rule out the possibility in my mind. even tho he knew help was coming and he was trying to wean himself off, It's just way too hard to go it alone. It's all so confusing and I think there are so many unanswered questions and different events that we can come up with support for many different scenarios. U know?
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Reply #569 posted 10/25/16 10:46am

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Can some one in law enforcement on here help me understand what they mean by "hold back information" in this request to keep docs sealed? Googling but can't seem to find an answer.

First of all I do want to say that I am not a LE officer. In simple terms "hold back" information is intelligence that is not known by the public and if it were released at this time it could tip off whomever they are gathering information on. It would also give any suspect information on what LE knows and what they don't, and possibly how far up the food chain they have discovered. This in turn might cause potential witnesses to be tampered with and could cause suspects to flee.

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