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Prince unreleased songs will be 'remixed' before being released ASAP, says Tyka in new interview... Excerpt from the ET article: As for Prince's unreleased music, sitting and waiting in the vault at Paisley Park, Nelson said that it wouldn't be locked away for much longer. "We're going to pull it up and we're going to remix it and we're going to get it out!" she said, adding that efforts to release the unheard tracks would be made "as soon as possible."
Hmmm, remixing...
I very much hope that with 'remixing' Tyka doesn't mean giving Prince songs to other (modern) artists so they can make their own version using some of the original parts of that Prince song and add some of their own flavor/production to it. That would be awful!!!
I can imagine though (with Prince recording so quickly) most of his unreleased songs might not have had a final mix treatment. I imagine a lot of them are fully arranged songs that just need a good final mix (setting the levels and panning of the different instruments, adding some reverb/delay to give the tracks some space) to make them sound finished, professional and releaseworthy. If that is what Tyka means with remixing and they hire a competent mixing engineer (preferably one that has worked with Prince) to upgrade the sound from demo quality to professional standards I would not have too much of a problem with that.
But, if they feel they have to resort to remixing then at least I hope they will release double disc sets where one CD holds the original untouched versions and one CD features the same tracks remixed. RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... |
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Reply #1 posted 10/05/16 11:08am
Noodled24 |
I'm not sure what to make of it. I hope that maybe when she said "remixed" she didn't actually mean remixing.
They could be under pressure to get current artists to feature on future Prince releases. They're going to want to sell big numbers so they're going to need singles.
I'm not against having big names attached/remixes if it gets Prince back on the radio. However I hope that's not the only avenue they choose to pursue with regard to releases, because like everyone else who's actually interested, I'd rather hear originals. |
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Reply #2 posted 10/05/16 11:15am
JudasLChrist |
I'm going to assume she meant "MIX" and not remix. Susan Rogers is part of this project, right? |
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Reply #3 posted 10/05/16 11:22am
Noodled24 |
^ I think she expressed some interest in being an advisor.
Details on who's involved seem scarce. At present I'd assume it was the people who worked there at the time of his passing + maybe Questlove. But I'm just guessing.
It seems pretty obvious the people who were there at the various times are best suited to being involved again, Revolution/NPG/NPG2.0/NPG3.0/3rdeyegirl. |
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Reply #4 posted 10/05/16 11:24am
Superfan1984 |
please dont remix it with any other artists......
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Reply #5 posted 10/05/16 11:24am
rogifan |
Noodled24 said: ^ I think she expressed some interest in being an advisor.
Details on who's involved seem scarce. At present I'd assume it was the people who worked there at the time of his passing + maybe Questlove. But I'm just guessing.
It seems pretty obvious the people who were there at the various times are best suited to being involved again, Revolution/NPG/NPG2.0/NPG3.0/3rdeyegirl. Why Questlove? Was he ever involved in Prince recordings? Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #6 posted 10/05/16 11:25am
JudasLChrist |
Noodled24 said:
^ I think she expressed some interest in being an advisor.
Details on who's involved seem scarce. At present I'd assume it was the people who worked there at the time of his passing + maybe Questlove. But I'm just guessing.
It seems pretty obvious the people who were there at the various times are best suited to being involved again, Revolution/NPG/NPG2.0/NPG3.0/3rdeyegirl.
She more than just expressed an interest. There was news recently that she was definitely consulting in regards to The Vault. She started the thing, so that only makes sense. She also has been very vocal about her concerns about his archive.
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Reply #8 posted 10/05/16 11:37am
laurarichardso n |
funkaholic1972 said:
Excerpt from the ET article: As for Prince's unreleased music, sitting and waiting in the vault at Paisley Park, Nelson said that it wouldn't be locked away for much longer. "We're going to pull it up and we're going to remix it and we're going to get it out!" she said, adding that efforts to release the unheard tracks would be made "as soon as possible."
Hmmm, remixing...
I very much hope that with 'remixing' Tyka doesn't mean giving Prince songs to other (modern) artists so they can make their own version using some of the original parts of that Prince song and add some of their own flavor/production to it. That would be awful!!!
I can imagine though (with Prince recording so quickly) most of his unreleased songs might not have had a final mix treatment. I imagine a lot of them are fully arranged songs that just need a good final mix (setting the levels and panning of the different instruments, adding some reverb/delay to give the tracks some space) to make them sound finished, professional and releaseworthy. If that is what Tyka means with remixing and they hire a competent mixing engineer (preferably one that has worked with Prince) to upgrade the sound from demo quality to professional standards I would not have too much of a problem with that.
But, if they feel they have to resort to remixing then at least I hope they will release double disc sets where one CD holds the original untouched versions and one CD features the same tracks remixed.
I think she meant final mix. I doubt they are going to bring in other artist as that would cost money. Makes since to fix up the tracks and put them out to bring in revenue. |
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Reply #9 posted 10/05/16 11:43am
OnlyNDaUsa
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i am assuming she means something other than an acutal mix. maybe a mastered or sequenced? Or maybe she means some of them are still in multi track format and would need to be (what is the word) combained into one with adjustments to levels?
I dread! DREAD! having other people toy with them.
she really needs to hire someone like one of us to advise as to how to proceed. Someone that knows his music and respects it but has no interest. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Reply #10 posted 10/05/16 11:53am
Germanegro |
rogifan said:
Noodled24 said:
^ I think she expressed some interest in being an advisor.
Details on who's involved seem scarce. At present I'd assume it was the people who worked there at the time of his passing + maybe Questlove. But I'm just guessing.
It seems pretty obvious the people who were there at the various times are best suited to being involved again, Revolution/NPG/NPG2.0/NPG3.0/3rdeyegirl.
Why Questlove? Was he ever involved in Prince recordings?
Not with Prince but D'Angelo/ Soulquarians. He's a competent studio director/producer type. I wouldn't be afraid of having him work with some of Prince's songs. He'd definitely approach them with TLC. |
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Reply #11 posted 10/05/16 11:56am
djThunderfunk
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As a recording artist herself, I doubt Tyka is confused as to the meaning of the word "remixed".
And that scares me because the absolute worst thing they could do is tinker with Prince's recordings by allowing other artists to remix, or guest star on Prince's music. Prince's work needs to be properly archived not butchered by hacks to make it more "popular". Just. Sayin'. Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors. |
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Reply #12 posted 10/05/16 12:07pm
SquirrelMeat
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Timberland presents.....Prince & Tori Kelly....'Moonbeam Levels'.... . |
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Reply #13 posted 10/05/16 12:13pm
OnlyNDaUsa
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djThunderfunk said:
As a recording artist herself, I doubt Tyka is confused as to the meaning of the word "remixed".
And that scares me because the absolute worst thing they could do is tinker with Prince's recordings by allowing other artists to remix, or guest star on Prince's music. Prince's work needs to be properly archived not butchered by hacks to make it more "popular". Just. Sayin'.
yeah we know... i am being hopeful... if it is a mess like that MJ album I may have to pass.... "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Reply #14 posted 10/05/16 12:15pm
Superfan1984 |
I have nothing against Tyka but she is a music artist- what if she puts herself in these recordings?
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Reply #15 posted 10/05/16 12:16pm
love2thenines2 003 |
I prefer 2 see the songs from the vault locked up in the vault 4 ever. ....i don't want to see any remixes. ....the songs must remain in their initial form. ...Prince would not accept that! WTF! |
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Reply #16 posted 10/05/16 12:23pm
TheEnglishGent |
Remix if you have to for the masses but include the as it was Prince version as a B side for the fans. RIP |
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Reply #17 posted 10/05/16 12:29pm
jdcxc |
Superfan1984 said: I have nothing against Tyka but she is a music artist- what if she puts herself in these recordings? Cmon Man...hilarious! |
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Reply #19 posted 10/05/16 12:48pm
DarkKnight1
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Me thinks she meant remaster..... (Insert something clever here) |
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Reply #20 posted 10/05/16 12:50pm
OnlyNDaUsa
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DarkKnight1 said:
Me thinks she meant remaster.....
yeah I do not see her messing too much with them by any major means "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" |
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Reply #21 posted 10/05/16 12:59pm
Noodled24 |
Germanegro said:
rogifan said:
Noodled24 said: Why Questlove? Was he ever involved in Prince recordings?
Not with Prince but D'Angelo/ Soulquarians. He's a competent studio director/producer type. I wouldn't be afraid of having him work with some of Prince's songs. He'd definitely approach them with TLC.
I have no idea if Quest is actually involved. I was just speculating.
I'm not sure he needs to be involved. I don't see what he would bring to the party. Wendy & Lisa sure. Sonny T, yes. At least it'd be authentic.
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Reply #22 posted 10/05/16 1:01pm
nelcp777 |
SquirrelMeat said:
Timberland presents.....Prince & Tori Kelly....'Moonbeam Levels'....
Please no. I would prefer to have them as is, polished or not. |
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Reply #23 posted 10/05/16 1:02pm
LonelyStarfish |
I think she just used the wrong term. I know some on here follow her on FB, what's the chance of her responding to a post asking for more clarity on what she meant by remixed? Prince isn't the type of artist that needs to have a faux collaboration album like biggie, pac or elvis. |
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Reply #24 posted 10/05/16 1:27pm
TrivialPursuit
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JudasLChrist said:
I'm going to assume she meant "MIX" and not remix. Susan Rogers is part of this project, right?
I agree that she probably meant "mixed" or even "mastered". Makes sense. I hope Rogers is part of the parts she recorded. She was there, why wouldn't she be part of that?
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
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Reply #25 posted 10/05/16 1:35pm
SquirrelMeat
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TrivialPursuit said:
JudasLChrist said:
I'm going to assume she meant "MIX" and not remix. Susan Rogers is part of this project, right?
I agree that she probably meant "mixed" or even "mastered". Makes sense. I hope Rogers is part of the parts she recorded. She was there, why wouldn't she be part of that?
Maybe they meant 'Jill Jones' and ' Revolution' when they said ' Tori Kelly' and 'Luke James'
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Reply #26 posted 10/05/16 1:47pm
Rev |
I have heard my fair share of raw prince cuts. While some could have used some help, any other artist interpeting Prince's music is doomed in my opnion. Just say NO Tyka! |
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Reply #27 posted 10/05/16 1:59pm
IstenSzek |
relax, even if they were planning on having some remixes done by big artists, it's not like they will remix the entire vault.
besides, these big names ask big cheques for their remixes. and a remix of an obscure prince track that only we might have heard isn't going to ride up the charts right now, even if it is remixed by whomever is hot these days. just not going to happen.
there might be a sort of greatest hits album with all those big songs remixed by current big sellers. sure, that seems logical even. why not? the estate will need to have some big sellers to keep rolling out quality vault releases. if for every remixed, sampled, produced by, featuring whatever monstrosity we'll then get 2 more 'regular' vault releases for the hardcore fans, i'm all good.
the positive to take away from this is that tyka is not in the camp that is just saying 'the music in the vault should not be released'. for now it seems that his family is planning on opening the vault sooner rather than later, so that's good news.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps |
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Reply #28 posted 10/05/16 2:02pm
Kara |
I was literally panic-stricken when I read this. I hope she actually meant mixed/mastered, etc. I'm afraid, though, that they'll have to resort to remixes with current popular artists to ensure it sells.
Personally, I'll only pay for unreleased music with the bare minimum of work done to it. I want to hear Prince's creations, not anyone elses input added after the fact.
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Reply #29 posted 10/05/16 2:33pm
mikeyaddict
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There was mention to by Al of a jazz album that P was working on that would be released - might that be black is the new black with mononeon, Adrian, Kirky J and maybe Donna? Kinda hope so - but wonder if it will still come out if Kirky is implicated in anyway?. . Big loves my wonderful purple hippies! Comin str8 outta Preston... |
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