TrivialPursuit said:

rap said:

I'm confused. Who will control (what comes out of) the Vault, Londell or Graceland Holdings?

Graceland runs the museum and the personal artifacts, the tours, etc. The estate and its assets like music are handled by Londell or whoever is in charge of that part of it. Tyka sure seems to have a firm grip on things with the music, so I'm hopeful for that.

I'm not hopeful. It sounds as though it'll be done in a haphazard manner.

antonb said:

Even worse, His sister just said they are going to remix it, and get it out there. Im hoping she just means remastering it.

This idea is what kinda turns me off hearing it.

Do I wanna hear it hell yes, but I dont necessarilly really wanna hear only someone else's mix up of it.

If they do that then I think they should probably do both, like perhaps one album Prince's raw tracks.

Then possibly another album with same tracks and maybe some extra ones with remix's done specifically by folk who personally worked with Prince eg; members of Revolution, Andre Cymone, etc etc etc ... could be representatives from each band involved.

ksl1974 said:

I know, sounds a little ridiculous. But when they talk about releasing some of his unheard music, I just have no desire to hear it. I know it's his. He recorded it. But as hard as he worked on music, I would hate to have something released, that he wasn't "done" with or wouldn't have been happy with.

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Totally hear you on this.

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And to the person who was all, "Then don't listen to it" --- whatever. There's nothing at all wrong with expressing your feelings about this.

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The real truth is: it is over. Nothing that emerges posthumously is "Prince's next album." His body of work, unfortunately, is complete.

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Anything that will be released from now on is someone else's interpretation of what Prince might have wanted.

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Even if the music is not - as Tyka has already stated will in fact be the case - altered from the way it exists on the raw tapes (or files), it will still be someone else's interpretation of what take(s) Prince wanted to release, how he wanted them sequenced, etc, etc.

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I'm not criticizing or passing judgment on any fans who are clamoring for "everything." I just personally don't understand it. Yes there are great songs and performances in circulation that are readily available to hear. But why on Earth would anyone want his life's work diluted with hours of material he didn't consider release-worthy?

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Some of my favorite Prince music is unfinished, unreleased stuff.

Rehearsals from the 1980s, soundchecks, unreleased stuff etc.

KoolEaze said:

Some of my favorite Prince music is unfinished, unreleased stuff.

Rehearsals from the 1980s, soundchecks, unreleased stuff etc.

And I'm glad that so much of it is out and available. Ironically, it looks like, in the end, the true archivists were the bootleggers...

rap said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Graceland runs the museum and the personal artifacts, the tours, etc. The estate and its assets like music are handled by Londell or whoever is in charge of that part of it. Tyka sure seems to have a firm grip on things with the music, so I'm hopeful for that.

I'm not hopeful. It sounds as though it'll be done in a haphazard manner.

But you really have no basis for that assumption, do you? What "sounds" like that? None of us have run a museum like this, nor have we been in charge of a vast collection of unreleased music. So none of us, despite our theorizing, can really know what's going on.

CAL3 said:

ksl1974 said:

I know, sounds a little ridiculous. But when they talk about releasing some of his unheard music, I just have no desire to hear it. I know it's his. He recorded it. But as hard as he worked on music, I would hate to have something released, that he wasn't "done" with or wouldn't have been happy with.

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Totally hear you on this.

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And to the person who was all, "Then don't listen to it" --- whatever. There's nothing at all wrong with expressing your feelings about this.

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The real truth is: it is over. Nothing that emerges posthumously is "Prince's next album." His body of work, unfortunately, is complete.

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Anything that will be released from now on is someone else's interpretation of what Prince might have wanted.

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Even if the music is not - as Tyka has already stated will in fact be the case - altered from the way it exists on the raw tapes (or files), it will still be someone else's interpretation of what take(s) Prince wanted to release, how he wanted them sequenced, etc, etc.

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I'm not criticizing or passing judgment on any fans who are clamoring for "everything." I just personally don't understand it. Yes there are great songs and performances in circulation that are readily available to hear. But why on Earth would anyone want his life's work diluted with hours of material he didn't consider release-worthy?

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Thank you for saying basically what I was trying to say...I was just stating my feelings...not anyone elses. Then whoever that was had to come in and be rude. Feel bad for those kind... only want to start trouble and stir things up. Must be a sad life!! I agree about the music ...it won't be "his next album". He seemed to be there to over-see all of his own work. He tweeked things....changed things, etc etc. And without he himself being here to do that, it won't be "his". I remember one interview where he was so happy with a song he did....they worked all night on it...then he was just like.."eh...nevermind...I changed my mind". In that quick of time, he was over that song. Didn't like it anymore. After he'd worked so hard. So it will be hard to REALLY know what he thought about any of that vault music. His thoughts changed from moment to moment it seems

I have no interest really in the music or going to Paisley Park. The whole thing just seems strange to me and way too soon.

3rdeyedude said:

I have no interest really in the music or going to Paisley Park. The whole thing just seems strange to me and way too soon.

Id like to go to Paisly Park.

I am from Australia but due to a family connection I visit USA specifically L.A almost every year since 2009.

I will probably be there again in March or April 2017.

I have only spent time in California except for one occasion I did the drive to Nevada Las Vegas for the Vegas experience.

Im really seriously considering trying to get up to Minnieapolis in my next trip and to see Paisly Park.

I imagine getting a plane up from L.A and staying in a Motel close enough to Paisly, probably will only have around max 4 or 5 days to spend in Minni, so in that case will try check out other significant locations like First Avenue, will have to research what else is good to check out.

I think a trip to Paisly would be amazing albeit in many ways I think I will find it quite sad, but sadly there isnt much us fans can do to change events that have happened.

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CAL3 said:

And to the person who was all, "Then don't listen to it" --- whatever. There's nothing at all wrong with expressing your feelings about this.

Yes, you can express your feelings, but the solution (as that poster articulated to you) is pretty damn obvious, isn't it?

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bluegangsta said:

I want to hear each and every single note that's in the vault: studio, live and rehearsals alike. Of course I know I won't live old enough to, because there's too much, but I'll purchase everything that gets released the day it it released, as long as I live.

All I want is to have it untouched, as such. Even if it's unfinished. Even if it's a raw demo. Mix it as much as you want but by all means do not REmix it. Or if they wanna do it for the masses at the very least release the original versions alongside the remixes.

Prince left the stuff for us to hear. Once artists are gone, they do not have the power to control their legacy. If they didn't destroy their work, they left it for us to discover. I don't have any problem with that: the living have to live, and an artist's work belong to the whole of humanity once they're gone.

They better hurry up please. Ain't getting any younger!

antonb said:

Even worse, His sister just said they are going to remix it, and get it out there. Im hoping she just means remastering it.

Thats what I think she may mean, but she is not part of the people who is considered like Susan Rogers, so take it with a grain of salt Of course all or most music is remixed from demo quality. There may be unfinished tracks still not in full bloom.

bluegangsta said:

CAL3 said:

And to the person who was all, "Then don't listen to it" --- whatever. There's nothing at all wrong with expressing your feelings about this.

Yes, you can express your feelings, but the solution (as that poster articulated to you) is pretty damn obvious, isn't it?

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Weird. In my original post....I don't even remember ASKING for a "solution". But some people just have to be instigators and start crap obviously. "then don't listen to it"..... No sh*t? Really? Never thought of that! I was asking if others thought the same or just how they thought about the new music (and some people have actually ANSWERED intelligently instead of just being rude).... So again, if you have nothing to contribute to this thread other than starting crap, go find another thread to cause trouble on

Greed is not one of my vices, so I'm at one with what he wanted us to hear and on his terms.

That being said, I have the utmost reverence for the creative and historical value of his unreleased work as is, and I don't think it can be protected properly without circulating it in his name, timely.

ksl1974 said:

bluegangsta said:

Yes, you can express your feelings, but the solution (as that poster articulated to you) is pretty damn obvious, isn't it?

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Weird. In my original post....I don't even remember ASKING for a "solution". But some people just have to be instigators and start crap obviously. "then don't listen to it"..... No sh*t? Really? Never thought of that! I was asking if others thought the same or just how they thought about the new music (and some people have actually ANSWERED intelligently instead of just being rude).... So again, if you have nothing to contribute to this thread other than starting crap, go find another thread to cause trouble on

Well, I'd rather be the insigator of a crap post than a crap thread.

bluegangsta said:

ksl1974 said:

Weird. In my original post....I don't even remember ASKING for a "solution". But some people just have to be instigators and start crap obviously. "then don't listen to it"..... No sh*t? Really? Never thought of that! I was asking if others thought the same or just how they thought about the new music (and some people have actually ANSWERED intelligently instead of just being rude).... So again, if you have nothing to contribute to this thread other than starting crap, go find another thread to cause trouble on

Well, I'd rather be the insigator of a crap post than a crap thread.

I just read thru your profile. Explains everything!! And Seems you like to be rude to A LOT of people with your snide comments on their posts. Oh, and enjoy those "hardcore drugs" you call a hobby.

antonb said:

Even worse, His sister just said they are going to remix it, and get it out there. Im hoping she just means remastering it.

Remix = Masters it. (that is what shen meant.)

Graycap23 said:

antonb said:

Even worse, His sister just said they are going to remix it, and get it out there. Im hoping she just means remastering it.

Remix = Masters it. (that is what shen meant.)

I wonder who "they" is? If only the family will get to choose what is released, or if they'll turn it over to someone else?

Graycap23 said:

antonb said:

Even worse, His sister just said they are going to remix it, and get it out there. Im hoping she just means remastering it.

Remix = Masters it. (that is what shen meant.)

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Since - as some have mentioned - this thread is apparently about pointing out the obvious...

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You don't know what she meant.

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For all we know, they could pull something like the keepers of MJ's material did with "Michael" and "Xscape"

Every single posthumous release I've ever listened to — of every single dead rock star whom I loved in life — has been a soul-crushing, brow-furrowing, nose-upturning disappointment.

Prince's posthumous releases would no doubt be a similar let down.

So, to answer your question in your thread title — Yes. I don't.