ladygirl99 said:

I recalled there was a user on here who also confirmed Prince knew he was dying told people around him the end was near and I could have sworn it was under a thread started by an OP said Prince knew he was dying. She was talking about Jewish religion and wanted to go to Australia show just to see him but Prince told her no. People didn't believed her but I did and I wished I had her back but I was at the time was in lurking mode. Can anyone else who was around two days after Prince died confirmed this? I haven't saw that user that much on here ever since unless she is under a different name.

Yes, I remember that and I thought it was bullshiz. Respectfully ladygirl99, I honestly don't think some random woman would know something like that about Prince, but yet someone like Judith Hill didn't know a thing. Judith was completely shocked by his death and the plane incident. And yes, I believe it was mentioned this woman was supposedly a possible real acquaintance of Prince's. Also, I have a hard time believing that a woman who would be priviledged enough to know something so personal about Prince would come on the Org and blurt all of this out as well as go further yet by posting screen shots of a supposed and mostly one-sided (her) conversation she had with Prince on Twitter(?) or Facebook(?) (can't remember exactly which, sorry). It seemed like overkill to prove herself when no one provoked her too. Why would someone that close to Prince do something like that? That's how I reasoned it and came to the conclusion not to believe it.

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here's the thread

username: thatgirlthang

she also said in here that cremation was important to stop people " tampering with his DNA at the cloning centres "

Most of their posts are kookoocrazy Rainbow Children conspiracy stuff which, in fairness, is probably more evidence towards them being genuine than against.

TopazGirl said:

ladygirl99 said:

I recalled there was a user on here who also confirmed Prince knew he was dying told people around him the end was near and I could have sworn it was under a thread started by an OP said Prince knew he was dying. She was talking about Jewish religion and wanted to go to Australia show just to see him but Prince told her no. People didn't believed her but I did and I wished I had her back but I was at the time was in lurking mode. Can anyone else who was around two days after Prince died confirmed this? I haven't saw that user that much on here ever since unless she is under a different name.

Yes, I remember that and I thought it was bullshiz. Respectfully ladygirl99, I honestly don't think some random woman would know something like that about Prince, but yet someone like Judith Hill didn't know a thing. Judith was completely shocked by his death and the plane incident. And yes, I believe it was mentioned this woman was supposedly a possible real acquaintance of Prince's. Also, I have a hard time believing that a woman who would be priviledged enough to know something so personal about Prince would come on the Org and blurt all of this out as well as go further yet by posting screen shots of a supposed and mostly one-sided (her) conversation she had with Prince on Twitter(?) or Facebook(?) (can't remember exactly which, sorry). It seemed like overkill to prove herself when no one provoked her too. Why would someone that close to Prince do something like that? That's how I reasoned it and came to the conclusion not to believe it.

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There were a quite few people over the years came on the org and housequake (from Alan Leeds, Robin, and even Lisa-she was on housequake ) shared their stories about Prince so its possible thatgirlthang could be legit.

But I maintain from what I read and the clues off her posts I believed her when she talked about brief connection with Prince. I am aware some others had more farfetched stories about Prince.

If people still refuse to believe Prince knew he was going to die then there is nothing more can be done to convince otherwise unless more evidence surface.

And thanks to Mumio and jaawwnn for confirmed that story.

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sunmooonandstars said:

TopazGirl said:

Hey there awake4now and welcome! I agree with what you've said here and felt that BS aura around that interview. It was just all together odd with her comments and nonchalant way of addressing how she felt when she found out about Prince's passing. I'm not trying to be hard on Tyka, but her comments didn't translate well as many people on here are upset it would seem. I honestly did not think that they were close or that they talked that much. Does anyone know? I hear ya about feeling jerked around...just too many contradictions.

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I remember a few years ago when she did an interview for Emancipation Radio she said that they had grown very close, much closer than they use to be since the passing of both their parents. She said that he still treated her like the protective big brother like he did when they were kids. This is why I can't stand when people talk shit about her. Prince loved her and she loved him. She has never had anything bad tosay about him. She said in another interview that if she were stranded on an island and could only take one piece of music she said she would take "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" I thought that was really nice. I was hoping she would talk a little about the sibling relationship they had. I was very, very disappointed. Still I don't have any ill thoughts about her. She doesnt seem like the kind of woman who would repay the favor of him paying for her rehab which ultimately saved her life by doing anything shady regarding anything about his passing As for the will, it doesn't matter to me one bit if he had one or not. I know I ain't in it so I ain't worried about it. All I am concerned about is Prince himself and what he was going through that lead to his early death.

Thank you for that info on Tyka and Prince's relationship. I don't have ill thoughts of her either, however, the ET interview had an odd feel to it.

ladygirl99 said:

TopazGirl said:

Yes, I remember that and I thought it was bullshiz. Respectfully ladygirl99, I honestly don't think some random woman would know something like that about Prince, but yet someone like Judith Hill didn't know a thing. Judith was completely shocked by his death and the plane incident. And yes, I believe it was mentioned this woman was supposedly a possible real acquaintance of Prince's. Also, I have a hard time believing that a woman who would be priviledged enough to know something so personal about Prince would come on the Org and blurt all of this out as well as go further yet by posting screen shots of a supposed and mostly one-sided (her) conversation she had with Prince on Twitter(?) or Facebook(?) (can't remember exactly which, sorry). It seemed like overkill to prove herself when no one provoked her too. Why would someone that close to Prince do something like that? That's how I reasoned it and came to the conclusion not to believe it.

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There were a quite few people over the years came on the org and housequake (from Alan Leeds, Robin, and even Lisa-she was on housequake ) shared their stories about Prince so its possible thatgirlthang could be legit.

But I maintain from what I read and the clues off her posts I believed her when she talked about brief connection with Prince. I am aware some others had more farfetched stories about Prince.

If people still refuse to believe Prince knew he was going to die then there is nothing more can be done to convince otherwise unless more evidence surface.

And thanks to Mumio and jaawwnn for confirmed that story.

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Yes, this is true about people sharing their stories so it could make her legit. However, it was what she posted that made me feel she was not. Just my thoughts is all.

To be honest, some quick googling around and i'm fairly sure thatgirlthang was all fake. With Prince though, you'll never know for sure

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phatphuk said:

Superconductor said:

"...Let's not have another death speculation thread!

The autopsy report stated it was an accidental fentanyl overdose.

The police also said there was no foul play and no suicide.

So even if he had a terminal illness, he didn't die from that nor did he suicide.

I believe Tyka might have just misspoken, and meant to say that she knew he was opioid dependent and it's gonna end bad. Same as she said the music in the vault will be remixed, probably meant remastered.

The fact he left no will but detailed instructions about Paisley Park is typical Prince. Totally idiosyncratic..."

That makes crystal clear sense to me. Thank you for weighing in, Superconductor

It makes sense, because your interpretation takes into consideration the entire context of the issue. That entire context being the facts that nobody can deny: Prince died from an overdose of pain meds.

With the indisputable facts as the context, I interpret the sister's expressing that she was not surprised by Prince's death, to mean that she was not surprised that Prince would have died from prescription meds.

Therfore, if she was not surprised that Prince would have died from an overdose of pain meds, then the implication of that {in my interpretation} is...

1. She knew for two years that he was suffering from debilitating pain
   
   
2. She knew for two years that he was self-medicating with dangerously powerful opioids
   
   
3. She knew for two years that the opioids he was taking to treat his pain was not being properly administered and not legally prescribed by a licensed doctor
   
   
4. She knew for two years that if doctors were refusing to write him a prescription for opioids, that was more than likely because the doctors knew he'd become addicted
   
   
5. She knew for two years that if he wasn't legally prescribed the opioids from doctors, then she knew that he was more than likely getting them on the blackmarket
   
   
6. She knew for two years that if he was procurring powerful heroine-like opioids through the blackmarket, that there were bound to be fatal risks involved
   
   
7. She knew for two years he was rolling the dice with every counterfeit pill he took, so one day two years ago she asked him, "What the fuck are you doin' taking this deadly shit, Big Bro!?!?! That shit can kill you!"
   
   
8. She knew for two years that Prince's reply to her admonishing him for doing something so risky, was, "I'm not afraid of dying, little Sis. I've done everything I've come here to do. So If I roll snake eyes one day from accidentally taking a sketchy counterfeit pill, then I'm willing to take that risk in order to not be in such excruciating pain."
   
   
9. She knew for two years that Prince resigned himself to his own eventual mortality, in much the same way that Jimi expressed when he sang, "I'm the one that's gotta die when it's time for me to die..."
   
   
10. She knew that two years full of desperate entreaties to Prince for him to "Get Help!", were falling on deaf ears
    
    
11. ...

So putting the sister's "I've known for two years" interview comments into the entire context of the one thing that nobody can dispute — {Prince died from an overdose of pain meds} — then it makes sense {to me anyway} that the sister was not surprised on the day Prince died.

Considering the sister's interview comments within the entire context — plus with Prince rolling the dice on the things listed above — then it makes sense that the sister would expect that Prince would eventually roll snake eyes sooner or later.

Thank you again Superconductor, for your thought-provoking interpretation of the issue.

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By Jayme Deerwester , USA TODAY 3:30 p.m. EDT October 6, 2016

"...“I have been preparing for two years, so I knew that it was coming”...

...Though her choice of words may suggest that Nelson was aware of her brother's use of prescription painkillers, drugs never explicitly came up in the interview...

...Instead, her explanation for why she was prepared for his death was that Prince himself seemed to sense the end was near...

...“He said it a couple of years ago: 'I've done everything that I've come to do,' I was crushed for about two years”..."

---

Exactly. This makes perfect sense, and this is what I believe tho it saddens me greatly to accept it. Those last two years had to have been a rough ride.

TopazGirl said:

ladygirl99 said:

I recalled there was a user on here who also confirmed Prince knew he was dying told people around him the end was near and I could have sworn it was under a thread started by an OP said Prince knew he was dying. She was talking about Jewish religion and wanted to go to Australia show just to see him but Prince told her no. People didn't believed her but I did and I wished I had her back but I was at the time was in lurking mode. Can anyone else who was around two days after Prince died confirmed this? I haven't saw that user that much on here ever since unless she is under a different name.

Yes, I remember that and I thought it was bullshiz. Respectfully ladygirl99, I honestly don't think some random woman would know something like that about Prince, but yet someone like Judith Hill didn't know a thing. Judith was completely shocked by his death and the plane incident. And yes, I believe it was mentioned this woman was supposedly a possible real acquaintance of Prince's. Also, I have a hard time believing that a woman who would be priviledged enough to know something so personal about Prince would come on the Org and blurt all of this out as well as go further yet by posting screen shots of a supposed and mostly one-sided (her) conversation she had with Prince on Twitter(?) or Facebook(?) (can't remember exactly which, sorry). It seemed like overkill to prove herself when no one provoked her too. Why would someone that close to Prince do something like that? That's how I reasoned it and came to the conclusion not to believe it.

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she probably got banned, i recall a couple posters calling her out on what she was saying and how easy it is to fake twitter pages, then they told her if she has any real info she should go to law enforcement. she was a phoney, i remember one lady tried to say prince fell for her and she had him crying and shit, some nutty people on here. I still wonder what happened to zelaira, maybe she passed or got committed or something.

PeteSilas said:

TopazGirl said:

Yes, I remember that and I thought it was bullshiz. Respectfully ladygirl99, I honestly don't think some random woman would know something like that about Prince, but yet someone like Judith Hill didn't know a thing. Judith was completely shocked by his death and the plane incident. And yes, I believe it was mentioned this woman was supposedly a possible real acquaintance of Prince's. Also, I have a hard time believing that a woman who would be priviledged enough to know something so personal about Prince would come on the Org and blurt all of this out as well as go further yet by posting screen shots of a supposed and mostly one-sided (her) conversation she had with Prince on Twitter(?) or Facebook(?) (can't remember exactly which, sorry). It seemed like overkill to prove herself when no one provoked her too. Why would someone that close to Prince do something like that? That's how I reasoned it and came to the conclusion not to believe it.

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she probably got banned, i recall a couple posters calling her out on what she was saying and how easy it is to fake twitter pages, then they told her if she has any real info she should go to law enforcement. she was a phoney, i remember one lady tried to say prince fell for her and she had him crying and shit, some nutty people on here. I still wonder what happened to zelaira, maybe she passed or got committed or something.

yeah i remember zelaira lol lets say wow...

ladygirl99 said:

There were a quite few people over the years came on the org and housequake (from Alan Leeds, Robin, and even Lisa-she was on housequake ) shared their stories about Prince so its possible thatgirlthang could be legit.

But I maintain from what I read and the clues off her posts I believed her when she talked about brief connection with Prince. I am aware some others had more farfetched stories about Prince.

If people still refuse to believe Prince knew he was going to die then there is nothing more can be done to convince otherwise unless more evidence surface.

And thanks to Mumio and jaawwnn for confirmed that story.

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She absolutely was legitimate.

Mumio said:

ladygirl99 said:

There were a quite few people over the years came on the org and housequake (from Alan Leeds, Robin, and even Lisa-she was on housequake ) shared their stories about Prince so its possible thatgirlthang could be legit.

But I maintain from what I read and the clues off her posts I believed her when she talked about brief connection with Prince. I am aware some others had more farfetched stories about Prince.

If people still refuse to believe Prince knew he was going to die then there is nothing more can be done to convince otherwise unless more evidence surface.

And thanks to Mumio and jaawwnn for confirmed that story.

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She absolutely was legitimate.

Can you say how you know she was legitimate? I'm just curious.

On the one hand, it sounds like a crazy story that she just made up. OTOH, it also sounds just like something Prince would do (tell an acquaintance not to travel to abroad and why but not tell someone like JH).

Mumio said:

ladygirl99 said:

There were a quite few people over the years came on the org and housequake (from Alan Leeds, Robin, and even Lisa-she was on housequake ) shared their stories about Prince so its possible thatgirlthang could be legit.

But I maintain from what I read and the clues off her posts I believed her when she talked about brief connection with Prince. I am aware some others had more farfetched stories about Prince.

If people still refuse to believe Prince knew he was going to die then there is nothing more can be done to convince otherwise unless more evidence surface.

And thanks to Mumio and jaawwnn for confirmed that story.

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She absolutely was legitimate.

you think so? she had some twitter comments from prince saying how he could commit suicide with no one knowing about it. what makes you think she was legit, it's the net, anyone could say anything.

NinaB said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

You're the troll.

& you're boring

Says the humorless person who never has anything intelligent to say

ladygirl99 said:

Superconductor said:

Let's not have another death speculation thread! The autopsy report stated it was an accidental fentanyl overdose. The police also said there was no foul play and no suicide. So even if he had a terminal illness, he didn't die from that nor did he suicide. I believe Tyka might have just misspoken, and meant to say that she knew he was opioid dependent and it's gonna end bad. Same as she said the music in the vault will be remixed, probably meant remastered. The fact he left no will but detailed instructions about Paisley Park is typical Prince. Totally idiosyncratic.

Then why you are on this thread then? If people are uncomfortable discussing about prince's death then bypass it. Death conversations aren't going to stop because you dont like it. Tyka is the blame for being vague.

Yes the autospy did stated he died of a fentanyl overdose but he also might have contributoring factor such as some terminal illiness.

Exactly. Based on all the evidence, definitive and speculative, suicide is more likely than him doing everything he could to get the right help.

Don't forget this is a man who at age of 55 (2 yrs ago) had optimal muscle fat ratio for that age - virtually nobody of that age has that, bc nobody at that age knows how to look after themselves. Prince did! and yet knowingly succumbed to something else without letting on to possibly even his closest company, nevermind anyone further afield. Especially in light of tyka's recent interviews, which she had nearly half a year to think about btw, it seems like he knew this event was on the close horizon.

Only briefly looked at estate thread. I'm sure P was very cognizant of what his father had betrothed to his next of kin. Just generally tho it surprises me not in the slightest that P himself left no will. He's had so many associates over the years, I don't believe someone like him living every day totally in the moment would even want to give it much consideration.

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NinaB said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Says the humorless person who never has anything intelligent to say

You're hilarious!

http://prince.org/msg/7/432047?&pg=4

^ One example of many of you being a troll. You had literally nothing to say or contribute.

cloveringold85 said:

NinaB said:

fortuneandserendipity said: & you're boring

.

NinaB & Purplethunder are NOT trolls!!

Superconductor said:

Thanks phatphuk (lol what a user name) and sonshine and others. The facts are the facts, that is all we know. The one page autopsy report clearly said accident, fentanyl toxicity. This means Prince did not know he took a lethal dose of fentanyl. And that means no suicide. It also means Prince didn't know he was dying.

The problem is, the one fact we do know for sure (fentanyl toxicity) doesn't square with all the preponderant evidence pertinent to the surrounding circumstances. By which I mean the numerous accounts pertaining to other substances, themselves potently toxic.

The death certificate is misleading and asks more questions than it answers. You simply can't rule out suicide. You yourself said that it made no sense, that P's death was bizarre as his life was bizarre. In other words, there's a lot we don't know. But to me, the situation taken as a whole seems to point to suicide.

XxAxX said:

cloveringold85 said:

.

NinaB & Purplethunder are NOT trolls!!

The evidence on this thread for starters is overwhelming. Tonnes of snipped comments (my posts were only deleted after NinaB badgered the moderators to do likewise to mine).

fortuneandserendipity said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Superconductor said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

The problem is, the one fact we do know for sure (fentanyl toxicity) doesn't square with all the preponderant evidence pertinent to the surrounding circumstances. By which I mean the numerous accounts pertaining to other substances, themselves potently toxic.

The death certificate is misleading and asks more questions than it answers. You simply can't rule out suicide. You yourself said that it made no sense, that P's death was bizarre as his life was bizarre. In other words, there's a lot we don't know. But to me, the situation taken as a whole seems to point to suicide.

The autopsy report is not misleading. It is an official document. The med examiner doesn't lie. There are several boxes to tick such as natural cause, accident, suicide, homicide, The accident box is ticked. The police commissioner also said suicide is ruled out, as is foul play. Yes it makes no sense, his life and death were bizarre but that doesn't mean suicide. Yes there is a lot we don't know but it doesn't matter. Prince died from accidental OD. Accident means he didn't know, which means he didn't suicide. Suicide means intent, there is no intent in an accident, that is why it is an accident.

What you are referring to is not a full autopsy report is not, rather a death certificate. The other boxes were marked 'not applicable' which is not the same as saying 'absolutely no evidence.' The accident box was ticked simply bc there was no note left by P indicating intent. They had to make a reasonable assumption to surmize why he died, that's all.

I watched that press conference. There's no way that police commissioner could definitively rule out suicide, based on the limited facts available to him.

I believe P knew what he was doing that final night as well as on the way back from Atlanta. He was tired of feeling ill. Based on everything I've heard that is actually the most reasonable explanation.

fortuneandserendipity said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

disch said:

Fortune sounds like you feel the medical examiner really botched this and that she completely missed what you feel is the clear "preponderance of evidence." Why do you think she got it so wrong? fortuneandserendipity said:

The problem is, the one fact we do know for sure (fentanyl toxicity) doesn't square with all the preponderant evidence pertinent to the surrounding circumstances. By which I mean the numerous accounts pertaining to other substances, themselves potently toxic.

The death certificate is misleading and asks more questions than it answers. You simply can't rule out suicide. You yourself said that it made no sense, that P's death was bizarre as his life was bizarre. In other words, there's a lot we don't know. But to me, the situation taken as a whole seems to point to suicide.

She took the reductionist approach. Did she botch it or lie? Well if I was her, going off the numerous anecdotal quotes relating to this case, I would have put 'multiple drug interactions' even if the fentanyl alone would have killed him. Anything else is misleading.

fortuneandserendipity said:

disch said:

Fortune sounds like you feel the medical examiner really botched this and that she completely missed what you feel is the clear "preponderance of evidence." Why do you think she got it so wrong? fortuneandserendipity said:

She took the reductionist approach. Did she botch it or lie? Well if I was her, going off the numerous anecdotal quotes relating to this case, I would have put 'multiple drug interactions' even if the fentanyl alone would have killed him. Anything else is misleading.

I'm gonna chime in this ONE time....I had my co-workers (non-P fams) read what all was in his system at the time of passing, and the FIRST word that came out of their mouths simultaneously was "cocktail." I'll leave it at that.

Do you not think she has access to far more data (not to mention professional training, unless you're an ME) than we do? For example: She has direct access to his full toxicology reports, plus she conducted a detailed physical exam including of his internal organ. We have no access to any of that info, nor, I'm assuming, the exptertise to evaluate it fully. But you're ready, based on "anecdotal quotes" from sources you don't cite or name, to speculate that she was not competent here?

fortuneandserendipity said:

disch said:

Fortune sounds like you feel the medical examiner really botched this and that she completely missed what you feel is the clear "preponderance of evidence." Why do you think she got it so wrong? fortuneandserendipity said:

She took the reductionist approach. Did she botch it or lie? Well if I was her, going off the numerous anecdotal quotes relating to this case, I would have put 'multiple drug interactions' even if the fentanyl alone would have killed him. Anything else is misleading.

roxy831 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

She took the reductionist approach. Did she botch it or lie? Well if I was her, going off the numerous anecdotal quotes relating to this case, I would have put 'multiple drug interactions' even if the fentanyl alone would have killed him. Anything else is misleading.

I'm gonna chime in this ONE time....I had my co-workers (non-P fams) read what all was in his system at the time of passing, and the FIRST word that came out of their mouths simultaneously was "cocktail." I'll leave it at that.