sunmooonandstars said:

Just watched the interview. Tyka said she had been preparing for his passing for 2 years. She said he told her that he had done everything that he was born to do. Broke my heart to hear that

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I thought that was odd for her to say that. Did she know something back then? Saying things like that is only going to create more controversy, in my opinion.

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I talked to someone who is in Public Relations and she said most likely the ET interview with Tyka's statement about "two years ago" was a pre-agreed exclusive with ET, and that is why Tyka didnt mention this during her interview with Al Roker.

I was also told by the PR person it was most likely pre-negotiated that no follow-up question would be permitted by the interviewer after she made the "two year" statement.

Apparently, this is how show biz works.

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But of course, it was all planned what she would say.

Bluey said:

---- You can tell if a person is evil from the T.V screen

PurplePeace said:

Noodled24 said:

Something isn't right here and we all know it.

Addiction aside, Tyka knew for 2 years that he was dying?.. he left instructions on what he wanted done with PP... but didn't leave a will? It just doesn't add up. Not for a control freak like Prince. He managed his music with an iron fist.

And she said his death "wasn't hard at all" because she'd been ready for two years?! I didn't think my opinion of this woman could get any lower, but I was wrong.

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I saw the clip of Tyka on ET last night. She said some things that were odd. Like, why say things like "I prepared for 2-years". What did she know 2-years ago?

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So many different stories running around regarding what Prince's plans were for Paisely Park. Wouldn't Prince's "wishes" be put in a WILL? And, not all this "hearsay"?

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This is so upsetting. It's just getting to be too much to take.

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I think opening PP right now is just too soon, but I know they probably had no choice.

Has this turned into a gif theread?

journalism16 said:

I am going to choose my words very carefully. I realize that there is an investigation still going on, but I think I know what she may have meant with this revelation. When he told her that he thought his life was winding down, and he has done all he came to do, seems to illustrate to me that he may have begun to get tired. With that being said, I don't know if he had some kind of illness, but I think with everything that he had already accomplished, perhaps he just became thoughtful about all he had done in his life, and was becoming tired. To illustrate my point, I had a loved one in my family in the last years of her life mention another person who had passed away a number of years ago, and because she kept mentioning this person, after asking a family member about this, this person said she was becoming tired, and missed this person so much, that it was time for her to leave this earth. I do not know if we will get any closer to the truth with this revelation, because she may not reveal anything she may have known, but I think with all that he accomplished in his life, including writing that final song and part of his tour, and preparing himself for his departure from this experience, I think he was coming to a revelation that he had done everything with the gifts God bestowed on him before his birth. But we all should be blessed by what he gave us.

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Very well said, indeed.

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I'm sure it was all planned on what she would say to the media, but I think what she is doing is just creating more controversy surrounding Prince's death.

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It still makes absolutely no sense why he didn't have a "will". A "Last Will and Testament" would describe exactly how he wanted his estate and PP handled. I just don't know what to believe anymore because anything anyone say's from this point going forward is all just "hearsay".

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Bluey said:

Since we have not been asked whether we want to be here or not, I think we should at least get to decide about our own fate so whatever Prince decided and did, it was his decision and no-one elses, no matter what others might think.

I wonder how close he really was with Tyka. I wouldn't be surprised if not as close as she wants people to think. If I died suddenly in such circumstances, I have no doubt in my mind that my closest relatives (like a sibling) would claim they were really close to me and basically knew what I was thinking etc. Which would not be true but how could I say it's not since I would be gone. They would also love to be in the public eye, no doubt.

She seems very sure of herself and a bit secretive. I can't really figure her out. With Prince I sort of did because I'm similarly "different" in a lot of ways. I won't go into it because who cares about me but he just seemed sensitive and sincere where as she is... An enigma. There's something evil in that look but I hope it's nothing. I hope this is not a case of less talented sibling riding the coat tails of the talented one. Forgive me if I'm reading too much into this.

It makes no sense to me why Prince didn't leave a will other than that artistic types like him don't feel like doing all the exhausting paperwork it requires. "I'll do it tomorrow..." No matter how ill you'd be, you always feel like postponing the things you don't really want to do.

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I agree. Tyka seems "very" secretive. She knows things, but she won't tell. I'm praying for Prince's family and friends because what they are dealing with now is pure hell. This whole thing has become a nightmare and it's just so painful, the more info that comes out; seeing PP WITHOUT Prince there!! Makes my heart break even more!

cloveringold85 said:

PurplePeace said:

And she said his death "wasn't hard at all" because she'd been ready for two years?! I didn't think my opinion of this woman could get any lower, but I was wrong.

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I saw the clip of Tyka on ET last night. She said some things that were odd. Like, why say things like "I prepared for 2-years". What did she know 2-years ago?

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So many different stories running around regarding what Prince's plans were for Paisely Park. Wouldn't Prince's "wishes" be put in a WILL? And, not all this "hearsay"?

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This is so upsetting. It's just getting to be too much to take.

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I think opening PP right now is just too soon, but I know they probably had no choice.

Under Minnisota Law if he didn't have any children or wife, his wealth goes to his surviving next kin and so far its Tyka and his half-silbings. So again I believe Prince didnt leave a will as an intent so the wealth goes to his family per law.

If a will still haven't turn up, then I am suprised Prince didn't leave Jehovah Witness congregation with something as most people who are religious would have a will and give some of their earthly possession and money to their place of worship (for example even Vanity create a will shortly before her death and she left some of her fortinute to her church) or to Kirk his 'best friend' . I hope folks don't jump on me for saying this but I believed Prince secretly lost interest in JW during his final years. It was discussed on here around last year.

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DiamondsnPearls44 said:

ladygirl99 said:

No offense but can some of you guys take the non-topic drama via orgnotes this is a good thread and I hate to see it get close as we are all adding and trying to make sense of what happened. And also just ignore the trolls because I know it is hard and I wish the org has an option to put trolls on ignore list.

But yeah I wouldn't be suprise if some of her siblings as well are going to start reveal more as the time comes.

I agree...we must not feed the trolls. Besides them everybody that has posted in here have been very respectful which is really nice for the Org

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purplethunder3121 said:

DiamondsnPearls44 said:

Prince is not missing this mess at all

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NOOOoooooo!!!! Prince.....where are you when we need you!!

Why is the Tyka comment not allowed it's OWN thread???? Is this not a big enough deal??? Sometimes I REALLY don't understand some mods

Brendan said:

IstenSzek said:

i've been thinking about this all night what seems most 'logical' to me at the moment is
that he probably took pain meds for his hips/joints. when docs told him it was taking a toll
on his body (esp the liver) he weighed his options and had some form of surgery (hence a
scar on his leg per the autopsy). surgery probably didn't help (enough) and so he had to
either continue taking pain meds or even take more. meanwhile the liver can't process the
meds anymore and gets damaged even more.
what might have happened then is that he got sick, went to see someone and they told
him his liver was so beat up at that point that he needed to stop pain meds immediately
and maybe even have to go on a list for a transplant.
knowing what we (think) we know, prince would not have gone for such invasive surgery
and thus either tried to find alternative ways to relieve his pain, which didn't help, and in
addition to his 'regular' constant pain for which he started taking meds, he now had this
additional discomfort/pain from developing/worsening liver issues.
which also makes it a whole lot easier to od by accident because an ill functioning liver is
not able to filter and process all those chemicals anymore.
so he might have known he had little time, and accepted it, rather than go for surgery.
which is why he may have been preparing things like the book, doing that farewell tour
(and apparently planning a paisley park residency after that, where he didn't have to go
travelling around the world but could do shows once in a while at home, sitting at his
piano), reaching out to former associates and just in general making reparations and
preparations. like talking to people about making paisley park into a museum and there
must have been plans in his head for the vault and other stuff, like a will perhaps but if
he thought he had more time and things spiralled out of control very quickly after he had
the incident on the plane...
seems like he tried desperately to make sure people thought he was ok after that and we
read that he was up for like 4 days the last few days of his life. probably trying to finish
a lot of stuff in a mad dash to complete as much as what he wanted to, figuring his time
could be shorter than previously imagined.
so he's at home, ill, fatigued, working way too hard to get things done, sending everyone
away so there'd be no distractions or people telling him 'what to do', not eating enough,
probably not drinking enoug either (there were reports of dehydration a few times?) and
then after all that ruckus took another pill and it went horribly wrong.
remains the question why was this pill so strong and laced with something so heavy?
was he aware they were that heavy and was his pain so bad at that point, where he'd
take the risk, thinking it would be ok, but his liver just couldn't handle it? or did someone
get him something that they shouldn't have and nobody knew exactly what was in that
pill?
to me that seems like what might have happened but the story might be something else
completely.
just saying, you don't have to be so sick you can't function before you die from a terminal
condition. especially in those cases it might be very hard to estimate how much time you
have left. my godmother was terminal, they told her she had roughly a year left. then all
of a sudden after new tests they told her six months. i went to visit her with my dad and
she seemed 'fine', looked ok, we talked, we laughed, and then we went home. three hours
later my dad calls me and tells me she's gone.
ugh, i should not get myself worked up like this. it's just ranting and trying to work out
what would 'fit' as a scenario. but what's the point. we won't know until the family or a
very close friend speaks out on it. i just hope he didn't have any pain in those last few
moments and was in an ok state of mind/peaceful.

Much appreciated, IstenSzek. Really thoughtful stuff, as usual. Always enjoy your unique combination of attitude, empathy, and intellect. Keeps me informed without having to read 10 times as much.

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Isten: Very well said, indeed.

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I think Prince just pushed himself too hard, right to the very end. He wasn't going to let his hip pain or other health issues stand in his way.

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I'm sorry about your Godmother. I lost my Mom 2-1/2 years ago. I saw her one day, then she was gone the next. I didn't get to say "good-bye" to her. Life can change in the blink of an eye.......just like our Prince.

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cloveringold85 said:

Bluey said:

Since we have not been asked whether we want to be here or not, I think we should at least get to decide about our own fate so whatever Prince decided and did, it was his decision and no-one elses, no matter what others might think.

I wonder how close he really was with Tyka. I wouldn't be surprised if not as close as she wants people to think. If I died suddenly in such circumstances, I have no doubt in my mind that my closest relatives (like a sibling) would claim they were really close to me and basically knew what I was thinking etc. Which would not be true but how could I say it's not since I would be gone. They would also love to be in the public eye, no doubt.

She seems very sure of herself and a bit secretive. I can't really figure her out. With Prince I sort of did because I'm similarly "different" in a lot of ways. I won't go into it because who cares about me but he just seemed sensitive and sincere where as she is... An enigma. There's something evil in that look but I hope it's nothing. I hope this is not a case of less talented sibling riding the coat tails of the talented one. Forgive me if I'm reading too much into this.

It makes no sense to me why Prince didn't leave a will other than that artistic types like him don't feel like doing all the exhausting paperwork it requires. "I'll do it tomorrow..." No matter how ill you'd be, you always feel like postponing the things you don't really want to do.

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I agree. Tyka seems "very" secretive. She knows things, but she won't tell. I'm praying for Prince's family and friends because what they are dealing with now is pure hell. This whole thing has become a nightmare and it's just so painful, the more info that comes out; seeing PP WITHOUT Prince there!! Makes my heart break even more!

The problem is that Prince is there...just not in the right form or place. If they had a beautiful garden or room for him not on display at the front door, I might have a different opinion...

ladygirl99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I saw the clip of Tyka on ET last night. She said some things that were odd. Like, why say things like "I prepared for 2-years". What did she know 2-years ago?

.

So many different stories running around regarding what Prince's plans were for Paisely Park. Wouldn't Prince's "wishes" be put in a WILL? And, not all this "hearsay"?

.

This is so upsetting. It's just getting to be too much to take.

.

I think opening PP right now is just too soon, but I know they probably had no choice.

Under Minnisota Law if he didn't have any children or wife, his wealth goes to his surviving next kin and so far its Tyka and his half-silbings. So again I believe Prince didnt leave a will as an intent so the wealth goes to his family per law.

If a will still haven't turn up, then I am suprised Prince didn't leave Jehovah Witness congregation with something as most people who are religious would have a will and give some of their earthly possession and money to their place of worship (for example even Vanity create a will shortly before her death and she left some of her fortinute to her church) or to Kirk his 'best friend' . I hope folks don't jump on me for saying this but I believed Prince secretly lost interest in JW during his final years. It was discussed on here around last year.

[Edited 10/6/16 12:07pm]

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Ladygirl: You have a valid point. Maybe Prince did not leave a "will" intentionally? We just don't know. He may have a Will (somewhere) in this world.

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I respect what you said in your last sentence. I agree too that Prince seemed to be "distancing" himself from the JW. I think he felt "let down" by a lot of people in his "circle", and maybe questioned some of the JW's teachings.

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All I know is that Prince was a child of God, and he was loved & will be loved forevermore.

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purplethunder3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. Tyka seems "very" secretive. She knows things, but she won't tell. I'm praying for Prince's family and friends because what they are dealing with now is pure hell. This whole thing has become a nightmare and it's just so painful, the more info that comes out; seeing PP WITHOUT Prince there!! Makes my heart break even more!

The problem is that Prince is there...just not in the right form or place. If they had a beautiful garden or room for him not on display at the front door, I might have a different opinion...

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Yes. Prince's "spirit" will always be there, in PP. That was his "happy place".

cloveringold85 said:

Brendan said:

IstenSzek said: Much appreciated, IstenSzek. Really thoughtful stuff, as usual. Always enjoy your unique combination of attitude, empathy, and intellect. Keeps me informed without having to read 10 times as much.

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Isten: Very well said, indeed.

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I think Prince just pushed himself too hard, right to the very end. He wasn't going to let his hip pain or other health issues stand in his way.

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I'm sorry about your Godmother. I lost my Mom 2-1/2 years ago. I saw her one day, then she was gong the next. I didn't get to say "good-bye" to her. Life can change in the blink of an eye.......just like our Prince.

i'm sorry about your mom, cloveringold that must have been very tough, not being able
to say goodbye to her.

cloveringold85 said:

ladygirl99 said:

Under Minnisota Law if he didn't have any children or wife, his wealth goes to his surviving next kin and so far its Tyka and his half-silbings. So again I believe Prince didnt leave a will as an intent so the wealth goes to his family per law.

If a will still haven't turn up, then I am suprised Prince didn't leave Jehovah Witness congregation with something as most people who are religious would have a will and give some of their earthly possession and money to their place of worship (for example even Vanity create a will shortly before her death and she left some of her fortinute to her church) or to Kirk his 'best friend' . I hope folks don't jump on me for saying this but I believed Prince secretly lost interest in JW during his final years. It was discussed on here around last year.

[Edited 10/6/16 12:07pm]

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Ladygirl: You have a valid point. Maybe Prince did not leave a "will" intentionally? We just don't know. He may have a Will (somewhere) in this world.

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I respect what you said in your last sentence. I agree too that Prince seemed to be "distancing" himself from the JW. I think he felt "let down" by a lot of people in his "circle", and maybe questioned some of the JW's teachings.

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All I know is that Prince was a child of God, and he was loved & will be loved forevermore.

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I don't think Prince necessarily moved away from JW teachings in his latter years, but I did get the impression that he had broadened his spiritual views more recently...

purplethunder3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Ladygirl: You have a valid point. Maybe Prince did not leave a "will" intentionally? We just don't know. He may have a Will (somewhere) in this world.

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I respect what you said in your last sentence. I agree too that Prince seemed to be "distancing" himself from the JW. I think he felt "let down" by a lot of people in his "circle", and maybe questioned some of the JW's teachings.

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All I know is that Prince was a child of God, and he was loved & will be loved forevermore.

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I don't think Prince necessarily moved away from JW teachings in his latter years, but I did get the impression that he had broadened his spiritual views more recently...

also, some of his songs got a little more sexy in recent years, you know what i'm saying

IstenSzek said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I don't think Prince necessarily moved away from JW teachings in his latter years, but I did get the impression that he had broadened his spiritual views more recently...

also, some of his songs got a little more sexy in recent years, you know what i'm saying

Yes, I was a little surprised to hear him get a little raunchy at a club in 2014... I thought I wasn't hearing right...

purplethunder3121 said:

IstenSzek said:

also, some of his songs got a little more sexy in recent years, you know what i'm saying

Yes, I was a little surprised to hear him get a little raunchy at a club in 2014... I thought I wasn't hearing right...

i know right there have been a few songs on albums too (like '1000 Xs & Os') where
i was like 'wait...let me rewind that and see if i heard that right'

IstenSzek said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Isten: Very well said, indeed.

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I think Prince just pushed himself too hard, right to the very end. He wasn't going to let his hip pain or other health issues stand in his way.

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I'm sorry about your Godmother. I lost my Mom 2-1/2 years ago. I saw her one day, then she was gong the next. I didn't get to say "good-bye" to her. Life can change in the blink of an eye.......just like our Prince.

i'm sorry about your mom, cloveringold that must have been very tough, not being able
to say goodbye to her.

. . Isten: Thank you for saying that. Actually, you are the first person to say that to me. . I think this is the first time I've chatted with you here, so "hello" and nice to meet you! .

cloveringold85 said:

IstenSzek said:

i'm sorry about your mom, cloveringold that must have been very tough, not being able
to say goodbye to her.

. . Isten: Thank you for saying that. Actually, you are the first person to say that to me. . I think this is the first time I've chatted with you here, so "hello" and nice to meet you! .

well hello to you too

purplethunder3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Ladygirl: You have a valid point. Maybe Prince did not leave a "will" intentionally? We just don't know. He may have a Will (somewhere) in this world.

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I respect what you said in your last sentence. I agree too that Prince seemed to be "distancing" himself from the JW. I think he felt "let down" by a lot of people in his "circle", and maybe questioned some of the JW's teachings.

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All I know is that Prince was a child of God, and he was loved & will be loved forevermore.

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I don't think Prince necessarily moved away from JW teachings in his latter years, but I did get the impression that he had broadened his spiritual views more recently...

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Yes, "broadened" is a good way to describe the changes he was going through.

rogifan said:

NinaB said:

I don't know, does she mean he said 2 her privately he had done all he came 2 do? Which is somewhat different than him saying he knew he was dying from something physical? I don't even know if I'm making sense with what I'm trying 2 say...

She didn't say he knew he was dying or he told her he was dying. But when she says she's has two years to prepare that implies to me there was an illness or something. There's footage on YT of him saying the below at one of his U.K. concerts in 2014. And at another show in Manchester before he played the song Paisley Park he asked the audience if they would come see him at PP. There's something cryptic about all this IMO.

That ^^^ was from his final Amsterdam concert in 2014.

The whole gig is on YouTube.

Note the releasing of balloons at the end too - yes, symbolism - I was pooh-poohed for mentioning it, for saying he had been dropping hints since 2014 - but I stand by it, and it seems it is now being confirmed.

ladygirl99 said:

I watched the ET interview and her quotes indicated she knew he was dying and was prepared for it even though it crushed her heart and when she received that phone call she expected it. Its laughable how others think she meant otherwise. SMH.

I think it was quite obvious that she knew, and he knew.. She got the call, 2 words "He's gone" Now that sounds to me like he prepared her and his friends.

You are forever in my heart, and prayers my dear Prince.

The Org is going nuts today!! I was just replying to someone and lost everything! Anyone else having problems with the page loading, or it's just me? It's crazy in here today!!

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I guess Prince wasn't kidding when he said "Let's Go Crazy"!!

Dibblekins said:

rogifan said:

NinaB said: She didn't say he knew he was dying or he told her he was dying. But when she says she's has two years to prepare that implies to me there was an illness or something. There's footage on YT of him saying the below at one of his U.K. concerts in 2014. And at another show in Manchester before he played the song Paisley Park he asked the audience if they would come see him at PP. There's something cryptic about all this IMO.

That ^^^ was from his final Amsterdam concert in 2014.

The whole gig is on YouTube.

Note the releasing of balloons at the end too - yes, symbolism - I was pooh-poohed for mentioning it, for saying he had been dropping hints since 2014 - but I stand by it, and it seems it is now being confirmed.

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Yea, and things got kinda weird after he got his masters back from WB.....uh-hummm.....2-years ago.

This dropping of mysterious hints style of communication has been going on all his life and now his close family and associates do that too. It's infuriating. Want to keep his privacy intact, fine no problem, but don't play games.
Robin Williams, David Bowie etc kept their privacy and dignity and legacy and still fans and the world were simply told what happened.
Why is that so hard?

cloveringold85 said:

Dibblekins said:

That ^^^ was from his final Amsterdam concert in 2014.

The whole gig is on YouTube.

Note the releasing of balloons at the end too - yes, symbolism - I was pooh-poohed for mentioning it, for saying he had been dropping hints since 2014 - but I stand by it, and it seems it is now being confirmed.

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Yea, and things got kinda weird after he got his masters back from WB.....uh-hummm.....2-years ago.

^ ALLLLLLL of this