Ingela said:

PeteSilas said:

Don't educate me, educate Kurt loder or whichever critic said it, I think Jesse Johnson saying how p was into the mama's and papas

Whatever. You've been set straight. Don't mangle things you've remembered incorrectly.

what? no, a critic did say that they thought 1999's riff was based on monday monday, it's not my opinion, that's a riff that's been used in many different tunes. and jesse did say p listened to the mommas and papas.

PeteSilas said:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/1999-prince

PeteSilas said:

Ingela said:

It makes you a Spooky Electric Minion, and thou shalt be burnt to ashes while we all dance chanting "Wedding Feast" around your smoking corpse.

Hey, the nineties Prince is another artist entirely. That's what makes Prince who he is.
He got nothing left to prove, he could have rest and collect a hundred million bucks but nah,
he showed them the finger and made it with a little help of his fans.

As for the music, he tried, failed and succeed, which made him human again, at last.
There was no going up after Lovesexy. You can't beat that trance.
After that, you simply get back to earth.

All was left was to reinvent himself, and boy he did.

His "me against the world" era is pretty unique amongst rock stars.
No other one has lived it and displayed it so publicly. He made us all witness it.
Now THAT's an autobiographic artist.

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Interesting talk.

bonatoc said:

PeteSilas said:

Ingela said:

PeteSilas said:

Only prince could say, it's a fairly common riff.

Sorry for being an ass. Don't you hate it when a smug know it all try's to contradict you and is WRONG. Anyway sorry about that.

naw, it's ok, it's the net, and maybe the critic was wrong in what he said. it could only be a guess and I doubt prince verified it with him. Truth is, i've always gotten some contradictory info regarding prince, reading that he grew up on white 60's and 70's radio but then other people say he only got into the beatles and led zeppelin after W&L came along, pity prince didn't get his memoir done, i'm sure a lot of things would have been clearer.

PeteSilas said:

Ingela said:

And also let's remember that all artists are influenced by each other. No one lives in a vacuum. Little Richard and Chuck Berry influenced a lot of people, they were among the founders of rock and pop. And blues and folk music goes ever farther.

So for anyone to try and say that it was the 90's that he finally embraced "black" music is fundamentally insane in my opinion.

"lacks culture" is what you're looking for.

Given that "For You" has Stevie Wonder, Earth Wind and Fire and Smokey Robinson
influences all over the place, it would be a dumb statement to make, no doubt.

Prince is a black guy incorporating white music,
like a negative of the early white rock'n'roll cats.

But before truly achieving the balance he's reknown for,
he already knew his funk since quite some time.

He incoporated white into black, not the other way around.
But it's pretty obvious that he was going for street cred with D&P
and the Game Boyz (such a stupid name).