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Prince & Ingrid Chavez ~ 1987-1992

Cross the Line

Prince...the Dream Is Alive & We Are Electric
Thank You For Believing In This
"Child of Foolish Heart"


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Blue Tuesday

Michael Koppelman

Levi Seacer, Jr.

The Spirit Child of L♥vesexy

Graffit Bridge

Paisley Park Records

write 21 poems

May 19, 1992

Elephant Box

Slappy Dappy
Hippy Blood

Jadestone

Whispering Dandelions

Heaven Must Be Near

Crystal City Cry

Wintersong

Whispering Dandelions

Candle Dance

Touch Of Love

Blue Boy

Sad Puppet Dance

Standing In The Rain

Cross The Line

7 Corners
Still Would Stand All Time

Larrabee Sound, Los Angeles, CA


“Songwriting is something that I enjoy a great deal. I didn’t realize how much I missed it until I started doing it again, and it brought back so many memories of my time together with Prince. We hung out together, played pool, talked about everything from sex to God, and worked on our records together.” -Ingrid Chavez

Premiere: Prince Muse + Collaborator Ingrid Chavez Shares Touching Tribute "You Gave Me Wings"

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Thank you they were friends and musicians together.... wink
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Blue Tuesday 12.1.1987

Prince

Matt Fink
Warner Bro.

Karen Krattinger

Marylou Badeaux
Susan Rogers

Eric Leads

Cat Glover
Gilbert Davison
Mo Ostin

Ingrid Chavez

From the perspective of Warner Bros., the Black Album was emblematic of the label's concerns about Prince's career. Increasingly, his marketing decisions seemed designed to alienate the public rather than to increase his record sales; meanwhile, his material was becoming consistently less accessible. The company desperately wanted Prince to come up with catchy songs that would re-establish him as a potent hit-maker and guide him back towards Purple Rain-like levels of fame. What it got instead was The Black Album.

Despite Warners trepidation, plans for the release went forward and hundreds of thousands of vinyl albums, cassettes, and compact discs were pressed for distribution. As he often did just before putting out new albums, Prince went to a nightclub to audition it for an unsuspecting public. On December 1,1987- a little more than a week before its scheduled release-Prince went to Rupert's, a Minneapolis dance club. Entering undetected by the crowd, he made his way to the deejay booth and played songs without fanfare to see how club goers would react.



insert from: NightGod My source: Cat Glover

I filmed a behind the scenes video of her modeling shoot last year (the one many of you have seen on youtube), and spent a couple days hanging out with Cat Glover. She is very open and shared some amazing stories with me. This is one:

1987: Prince had never tried Ecstasy, and was curious about it after Cat told him what it felt like. He asked Cat to get him some (it came from her, where the common misconception is that it came from Ingrid). Cat was in LA when Prince made his request. She got some and flew in to MN and was staying at a hotel when Prince's limo showed up. While they were both in her room, Cat suggested Prince take half a dose "because he was so small". He took the full dose and told Cat to wait for him. He rode off in his limo and Cat didn't hear from him until much later.

Prince decided to go to a club while he was tripping. It was here that he met Ingrid Chavez, which eventually led them to Paisley Park. Cat said she didn't think Ingrid knew Prince was tripping on E. Prince called Cat later from the limo and told her about Ingrid. She was riding with him at that point, and the three of them went out to Paisley, making for a historical night in Prince's career.

Even more interesting is her source for where she got the Ecstasy in the first place: Anthony Kiedis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.


As the music played over the sound system, Prince mingled with the crowd and eventually became involved in a detailed conversation with a singer-songwriter-poet in her early twenties named Ingrid Chavez. An attractive brunette with a serious and reflective air, Chavez had moved to Minneapolis several years earlier to work on music with a friend. But that collaboration had soured, and since then she had been working alone on her poetry and spoken-word pieces. Like Prince, Chavez had grown up in a strictly religious home (in her case, Baptist), but as an adult she too sought spiritual answers outside the confines of any specific religion.

Prince and Chavez seemed fascinated by each other despite an apperent lack of sexual chemistry, and, after a while, they drove back to the recently completed Paisley Park studio complex. They continued a lengthy and intense conversation about religious issues, love, and life fulfillment, but Prince eventually excused himself, saying he had a stomachache. Waiting to see where the strange night would go next, Chavez stayed put while Prince disappeared elsewhere in the complex.

At about 1:30am Karen Krattinger received a strange phone call. Speaking with uncharacteristic emotion, Prince apologized for having been so hard on her, said he had trouble expressing his feelings, and that he loved her.

At about the same time that night, Susan Rogers also got a phone call from Prince, asking her to come to Paisley Park. After four years as Prince's engineer, she had resigned that post shortly after the completion of the Black Album i October 1987. But she agreed to go to the studio. Arriving in the rehearsal room, she found it dark, save for a few red candles that cast ominous shadows across the walls. Out of the gloom she heard a woman's voice.

"Are you looking for Prince?"
Rogers, who would later learn this was Chavez, answered, "Yes."
"Well, he's here somewhere," Chavez replied.
Abruptly, Prince emerged out of the darkness, looking unlike she had ever seen him before. "I'm certain he was high," Rogers said. "His pupils were really dilated. He looked like he was tripping."
As he had with Krattinger, Prince struggled to connect emotionally with Rogers. "I just want to know one thing. Do you still love me?" Rogers, startled, said she did, and that she knew he loved her.
"Will you stay?" Prince asked.
"No, I won't," she said, and left the complex.
"It was really scary," she recalled of the evening.
Matt Fink confirmed the sequence of events, saying he was told by bodyguard Gilbert Davison, who was present at Paisley Park that evening, that Prince had taken the drug Ecstasy. "He had a bad trip, and felt that [the Black Album] was the devil working through him," Fink said. Chavez has also said that in the course of the evening Prince decided that The Black Album represented an evil force.

...

But something had changed. Prince believed that he had experienced a spiritual and moral epiphany, and that Chavez, serving as a guide, had shown him the way to greater connection with God and other people. The Black Album, he decided, represented the anger and licentiousness that he must leave behind. After casting about for months for a way to truly put the Revolution era behind him, he had found one.

Days after the ecstasy trip, Prince contacted Warner Bros. chairman Mo Ostin and insisted that the Black Album, with its release just days away, be canceled. "Prince was very adamant and pleaded with Mo," recalled Marylou Badeaux. Although Ostin ultimately agreed, halting the release was a logistical nightmare for Warners. Five hundred thousand LPs - which now needed to be destroyed - had been pressed, and were on loading docks ready for shipment to stores. A small number of vinyl records and cds escaped destruction, and The Black Album quickly became available on the bootleg market, with fans selling and trading cassette duplicates of widely varying fidelity.

Prince has never given a clear public explanation of the decision to shelve the album, but the program from his next tour included a cryptic discussion of the Black Album's "evil" nature, and refers to December 1, 1987 (the night he spent with Chavez at Paisley Park), as "Blue Tuesday."

Having shelved the Black Album, Prince immediately threw himself into the recording of his next LP, Lovesexy, which he conceived as a document of his epiphany.

...

Moreover, very few of Prince's associates related to the lyrical messages, and also wondered why Ingred Chavez, who seemed to some a bit odd, was playing such a huge role. When band members seemed confused by the lyrics of the title track, he rerecorded it to make the meaning ring out more clearly. It still didn't work. "I did not understand what the term 'lovesexy' was supposed to mean," Eric Leeds said. "People weren't getting it."

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Cross The Line is an unreleased song by Ingrid Chavez, recorded with an improvised musical backing by Prince in mid-December 1987, at Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA (shortly after cancelling the release of "The Black Album", ... Prince's music comprised of reversed synth and organ sounds following Ingrid Chavez's spoken part. Her vocals were later lifted and incorporated into Intermission, which (as a studio track played over the PA) opened the second half of Lovesexy Tour shows. Cross The Line remains unreleased, however.

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Rain is wet and sugar is sweet
Clap your hands and stomp your feet
Everybody, everybody knows
When Love calls, U gotta go

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In the Distance, a Light shines

In the Distance
A Light shines and I know it is mine
Someday I will touch it
because it calls me
It says Cross the Line, Cross the Line

* excerpt from a poem by Ingrid Chavez

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Reply #6 posted 09/30/16 9:03am

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Thanks, I'd heard the "Blue Tuesday" story before but never with as much detail.

I didn't care for the Chavez album but seem to remember "Candle Dance" was quite a nice track.

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http://www.fifteenminutes...rit-child/

Ingrid Chavez – Spirit Child

By: Michael D. McClellan | Ingrid Chavez vanished into rumor in the 1990s, disappearing before our very eyes, her story climaxing with a high-profile Prince collaboration and...

Chavez released her debut solo album, May 19, 1992, on Prince’s Paisley Park Records, and then disappeared into the ether. The pop music landscape, as fickle as ever, simply rolled on: Prince changed his name to a symbol, Madonna kept pushing buttons, and a new wave of hip-hop artists started dominating the charts, Eminem, Dr. Dre, and Jay-Z among them. Meanwhile, Chavez retreated into relative obscurity, getting married, starting a family, and living vicariously through her husband’s work, English singer-songwriter David Sylvian. She was forgotten about almost as quickly as she’d come.

...

Clearly, Ingrid Chavez loved making motherhood her main gig, and while the urge to make music may have been repressed by the desire to be there for her children, it’s hard to imagine that urge ever really going away. We’re talking about the same Ingrid Chavez who arrived at Paisley Park during one of the darkest, angriest periods in Prince’s life, her positivity prompting him to table The Black Album and embrace a new spiritual awakening.

“I’m happy to be back,” Chavez says, smiling. “Songwriting is something that I enjoy a great deal. I didn’t realize how much I missed it until I started doing it again, and it brought back so many memories of my time together with Prince. We hung out together, played pool, talked about everything from sex to God, and worked on our records together.”

The chain reaction that produced Lovesexy starts with a robbery.

...

“Steve Snow was a musician and my boyfriend at the time,” Chavez says. “We had formed a band called China Dance, and the candy factory was the perfect place for us to rehearse – until one day we drove a friend of ours to the airport and returned to find all of our equipment was gone. The thought of someone breaking in and stealing our stuff was so scary. We were really young, and I’d just given birth to my son Tinondre. Steve and I just looked at each other and said, ‘What are we going to do?’ I was afraid to stay in the warehouse after that, because it was in a really bad part of Atlanta. Someone had just burglarized our place and all I could think was that it would happen again, so we went and stayed with a friend.”

Snow, who was from Minneapolis, had a straightforward idea: Save up enough money for plane tickets and move back to his hometown.

“I didn’t have a compelling reason to stay in Atlanta,” says Chavez, who was born near Albuquerque and sent by her mother to live with family in Georgia when she was 10. “I wasn’t leaving anyone behind that I was going to miss terribly, so moving to Minneapolis was like an exciting journey to somewhere new. It was scary when we first got there, because we moved in with Steve’s uncle on the north side of Minneapolis, which was totally gang infested at the time. You would hear gunshots in the night. We were finally able to rent an apartment and start our new life there.”

“Before I met Steve, I was listening to Prince, The Time, a lot of music like that.

...

Chavez and Snow slowly grew apart, breaking up after that first year together in Minneapolis and triggering the next step in that Lovesexy chain reaction.

“Artistically, Steve and I did find some common ground,” she says, “but I think there were times when we didn’t share the same creative vision. The ride got a little bumpy.”

Although her relationship with Snow had soured, Chavez kept writing poetry and staying connected to the Minneapolis music scene. She also worked part-time in a coffee shop to pay the bills. It was a gritty, uncertain period in her life, and someone with less moxie might have packed up and moved on. Not Chavez. She didn’t have much, but she had confidence in her talent and a belief that a higher power was at work in her life.

By the time Prince released 1987’s Sign O’ the Times, he was one of the biggest-selling artists in the world, his reputation growing in lockstep with his popularity, from his debut album For You to his mainstream breakthrough 1999 to the global smash Purple Rain. To say that Michael Jackson owned 1980s pop music would be only partly true. Jackson dominated the charts, but Prince was right there with him, matching MJ hit-for-hit, stadium-for-stadium, heart-for-heart. Artistically, their work couldn’t have been more different. Sign O’ the Times was as eclectic as Jackson’s Bad was polished, which cut to the very core of the artists themselves: Jackson made music that appealed to everyone, chained to formula, with an insatiable need to feel loved. Prince made whatever the hell he wanted, without constraint, which freed him to create brilliant music.

“Prince was always pushing himself artistically, and always challenging those around him,” says Chavez of his music-making. “The first time I saw Prince was at the club First Avenue. We passed each other and made eye contact, but on that night we didn’t speak. When I finally met Prince I was instantly comfortable around him. He had this ability to see creative potential in a person before they saw it in themselves.”

On September 11, 1987, Paisley Park officially opened. Prince was between albums, with Sign O’ the Times winding down and something called The Funk Bible in the works. He had also released the Sign O’ the Times concert movie, which was praised critically and attended en masse by the most hardcore Prince fans. The movie, with live clips re-shot at Paisley Park, was a svelte jolt of everything that captured Prince at his most dazzling: The singing, the dancing, the multi-instrumental talent, the rapport with his band, and those bolero-chic outfits that only The Purple One could carry off.

There was something else about Prince that stood out during this era; his music had taken on a decidedly darker edge, matching his mood. On Cindy C., Prince sang about feeling rejected by a high-class model in Paris. Rockhard in a Funky Place was about a guy on the prowl for sex in a whorehouse. Superfunkycalifragisexy urged people to drink blood and dance. All of these tracks were being readied for inclusion in the 1988 release of The Funk Bible, an album that Prince insisted be produced without printed title, artist name, liner notes, production credits, or photography. Everybody – family, friends, employees, musicians – was on edge around Paisley Park. Prince ratcheted up the tension at every turn, demanding more from everyone and pressing forward with a project that was certain to alienate segments of his fan base. Warner Bros, meanwhile, continued to publicly support The Funk Bible, prepping 400,000 copies for distribution while privately bracing for a commercial failure. Looking back, it’s hard to imagine a more toxic time than those early days at Paisley Park.

All of that changed on a bitter cold December night, when Prince ventured into a Minneapolis bar with his entourage. Chavez was also there. She wasn’t supposed to be – if not for a friend’s incessant coaxing, she would have spent the evening at home, comfortably out of the weather. But fate has a funny way of working. Turns out, her decision to go out that night was the final reaction in Lovesexy’s self-amplifying chain of events.

“I wasn’t going to go to the bar,” Chavez says. “Prince strolled in soon after I got there, and he kept staring at me. I thought he looked very puzzled, and I was very curious as to why I would puzzle him. So I sent him a note. It read, ‘Hi, remember me? Probably not, but that’s okay, because we’ve never met. Smile…I love it when you smile.’ I didn’t sign it or anything. I just gave it to Gilbert Davison, who was Prince’s manager at the time, and who was with him that night. Prince took the note and read it, and then he had Gilbert come and get me. So I walked over and sat with him.”

The connection between poet and recluse was immediate.

“This was during the Sign O’ the Times period, when he used to wear those mirror heart bracelets. He took the one that he had on his wrist and put it on my wrist. It was so surreal. It felt like a strange dream that couldn’t possibly be true; one minute I’m sitting at home alone, the next I’m sitting in a bar with Prince, one of the most famous singers in the world, and I’m wearing his mirror heart bracelet on my wrist.”

Long known for his playful side, Prince quickly warmed to what came next.

“We started talking, and he asked my name because I hadn’t signed my note,” Chavez says. “I introduced myself as Gertrude and he immediately said that he was Dexter [laughs]. From that moment on, that’s who we were to each other. When I look back on some of my journal writing from that period, I never referred to him as Prince. I referred to him as Dexter in all of the passages.”

As they talked, Chavez had no idea of the inner struggle taking place within her new friend. Warner had grudgingly started sending out advance copies of The Funk Album to dance club deejays in England, with mixed results. Prince’s latest movie project, Graffiti Bridge, had hit some speed bumps and was on temporary hiatus. A new form of music – rap – was starting to gain mainstream popularity, and yet Prince had responded with Dead on It, in which he trashed the new art from and incorrectly predicted its demise.

Little could anyone have known that everything would change the night Prince met Ingrid Chavez.

“Prince asked me if I wanted to take a drive,” she says. “I sat in the front seat next to Gilbert, and he sat in the backseat. It was nighttime. Prince had Gilbert put the mirror down so that we could see each other’s eyes. The next thing you know, we’re on our way to Paisley Park.”

“He put me in a room and told me that he’d be back,” she says, “and then he disappeared. I was just hanging by myself for what seemed like an eternity. I was left with time on my hands, and I didn’t have anyone in the room with me, so I just did what I do whenever I’m alone, which is write. He came back eventually [laughs].”

What happened next remains shrouded in mystery and baked into legend, but the end result would prove to be a crossroads moment in Prince’s personal and professional life. The story goes something like this: Prince calls Susan Rogers, who was working as his sound engineer at the time, and asks her to come to Paisley Park. Rogers shows up to find Chavez alone, in a candlelit rehearsal room. Prince joins them a short time later, and after a brief conversation, Rogers decides to leave. In the hours that follow, legend has it that Prince experiences an awakening and sees God – not in physical form, but in everything around him. The legend continues that Prince now sees The Funk Bible for what it is – an evil force full of rage, the lyrics poisoned with guns and violence – and that a voice tells him not to release the record.

This much we know to be true: Prince moved quickly to convince Warner Bros. to scrap the project. The company agreed to destroy all of its copies of The Funk Bible, which would famously come to be known by another name: The Black Album.

“Prince did tell her that she had to meet me,” Chavez says, conceding part of the story. “She came to Paisley Park later that night, and Prince and I talked about a lot of things after she left. He did end up cancelling The Black Album, but I didn’t know anything about that record at the time. All I knew was that it got cancelled.”

Whatever happened, Prince emerged from the experience a changed man. Gone was the moody artist prone to tempestuous outbursts. In his place was an enlightened, spiritual being whose approach to songwriting would be forever altered.

And whether she knew it then or not, Ingrid Chavez’s own world was about to tilt dramatically on its musical axis.

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Noodled24 said:

Thanks, I'd heard the "Blue Tuesday" story before but never with as much detail.

I didn't care for the Chavez album but seem to remember "Candle Dance" was quite a nice track.

that could be a mini movie in itself.
the stuff of legend in Prince culture

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Blue Tuesday 12.1.1987

Prince

Matt Fink
Warner Bro.

Karen Krattinger

Marylou Badeaux
Susan Rogers

Eric Leads

Cat Glover
Gilbert Davison
Mo Ostin

Ingrid Chavez

From the perspective of Warner Bros., the Black Album was emblematic of the label's concerns about Prince's career. Increasingly, his marketing decisions seemed designed to alienate the public rather than to increase his record sales; meanwhile, his material was becoming consistently less accessible. The company desperately wanted Prince to come up with catchy songs that would re-establish him as a potent hit-maker and guide him back towards Purple Rain-like levels of fame. What it got instead was The Black Album.

Despite Warners trepidation, plans for the release went forward and hundreds of thousands of vinyl albums, cassettes, and compact discs were pressed for distribution. As he often did just before putting out new albums, Prince went to a nightclub to audition it for an unsuspecting public. On December 1,1987- a little more than a week before its scheduled release-Prince went to Rupert's, a Minneapolis dance club. Entering undetected by the crowd, he made his way to the deejay booth and played songs without fanfare to see how club goers would react.



insert from: NightGod My source: Cat Glover

I filmed a behind the scenes video of her modeling shoot last year (the one many of you have seen on youtube), and spent a couple days hanging out with Cat Glover. She is very open and shared some amazing stories with me. This is one:

1987: Prince had never tried Ecstasy, and was curious about it after Cat told him what it felt like. He asked Cat to get him some (it came from her, where the common misconception is that it came from Ingrid). Cat was in LA when Prince made his request. She got some and flew in to MN and was staying at a hotel when Prince's limo showed up. While they were both in her room, Cat suggested Prince take half a dose "because he was so small". He took the full dose and told Cat to wait for him. He rode off in his limo and Cat didn't hear from him until much later.

Prince decided to go to a club while he was tripping. It was here that he met Ingrid Chavez, which eventually led them to Paisley Park. Cat said she didn't think Ingrid knew Prince was tripping on E. Prince called Cat later from the limo and told her about Ingrid. She was riding with him at that point, and the three of them went out to Paisley, making for a historical night in Prince's career.

Even more interesting is her source for where she got the Ecstasy in the first place: Anthony Kiedis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.


As the music played over the sound system, Prince mingled with the crowd and eventually became involved in a detailed conversation with a singer-songwriter-poet in her early twenties named Ingrid Chavez. An attractive brunette with a serious and reflective air, Chavez had moved to Minneapolis several years earlier to work on music with a friend. But that collaboration had soured, and since then she had been working alone on her poetry and spoken-word pieces. Like Prince, Chavez had grown up in a strictly religious home (in her case, Baptist), but as an adult she too sought spiritual answers outside the confines of any specific religion.

Prince and Chavez seemed fascinated by each other despite an apperent lack of sexual chemistry, and, after a while, they drove back to the recently completed Paisley Park studio complex. They continued a lengthy and intense conversation about religious issues, love, and life fulfillment, but Prince eventually excused himself, saying he had a stomachache. Waiting to see where the strange night would go next, Chavez stayed put while Prince disappeared elsewhere in the complex.

At about 1:30am Karen Krattinger received a strange phone call. Speaking with uncharacteristic emotion, Prince apologized for having been so hard on her, said he had trouble expressing his feelings, and that he loved her.

At about the same time that night, Susan Rogers also got a phone call from Prince, asking her to come to Paisley Park. After four years as Prince's engineer, she had resigned that post shortly after the completion of the Black Album i October 1987. But she agreed to go to the studio. Arriving in the rehearsal room, she found it dark, save for a few red candles that cast ominous shadows across the walls. Out of the gloom she heard a woman's voice.

"Are you looking for Prince?"
Rogers, who would later learn this was Chavez, answered, "Yes."
"Well, he's here somewhere," Chavez replied.
Abruptly, Prince emerged out of the darkness, looking unlike she had ever seen him before. "I'm certain he was high," Rogers said. "His pupils were really dilated. He looked like he was tripping."
As he had with Krattinger, Prince struggled to connect emotionally with Rogers. "I just want to know one thing. Do you still love me?" Rogers, startled, said she did, and that she knew he loved her.
"Will you stay?" Prince asked.
"No, I won't," she said, and left the complex.
"It was really scary," she recalled of the evening.
Matt Fink confirmed the sequence of events, saying he was told by bodyguard Gilbert Davison, who was present at Paisley Park that evening, that Prince had taken the drug Ecstasy. "He had a bad trip, and felt that [the Black Album] was the devil working through him," Fink said. Chavez has also said that in the course of the evening Prince decided that The Black Album represented an evil force.

...

But something had changed. Prince believed that he had experienced a spiritual and moral epiphany, and that Chavez, serving as a guide, had shown him the way to greater connection with God and other people. The Black Album, he decided, represented the anger and licentiousness that he must leave behind. After casting about for months for a way to truly put the Revolution era behind him, he had found one.

Days after the ecstasy trip, Prince contacted Warner Bros. chairman Mo Ostin and insisted that the Black Album, with its release just days away, be canceled. "Prince was very adamant and pleaded with Mo," recalled Marylou Badeaux. Although Ostin ultimately agreed, halting the release was a logistical nightmare for Warners. Five hundred thousand LPs - which now needed to be destroyed - had been pressed, and were on loading docks ready for shipment to stores. A small number of vinyl records and cds escaped destruction, and The Black Album quickly became available on the bootleg market, with fans selling and trading cassette duplicates of widely varying fidelity.

Prince has never given a clear public explanation of the decision to shelve the album, but the program from his next tour included a cryptic discussion of the Black Album's "evil" nature, and refers to December 1, 1987 (the night he spent with Chavez at Paisley Park), as "Blue Tuesday."

Having shelved the Black Album, Prince immediately threw himself into the recording of his next LP, Lovesexy, which he conceived as a document of his epiphany.

...

Moreover, very few of Prince's associates related to the lyrical messages, and also wondered why Ingred Chavez, who seemed to some a bit odd, was playing such a huge role. When band members seemed confused by the lyrics of the title track, he rerecorded it to make the meaning ring out more clearly. It still didn't work. "I did not understand what the term 'lovesexy' was supposed to mean," Eric Leeds said. "People weren't getting it."

He told numerous people about his bad experience with this stuff. So why is this being brought up again? "Prince and Chavez seemed fascinated by each other despite an apperent lack of sexual chemistry," Who said this. She is the one kissing him on one of those LoveSexy songs.

I posted a very long interview that she gave a few weeks ago.

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Thank u for this thread.

Her debut album was quite innovative and unique when it was released.

Ingrid & Prince deserve major props for that.
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Fascinating, thank you.
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The cloud lifted, Prince began work on another record. Unlike The Black Album, its vibe was fueled by his newfound positivity. Lovesexy arrived on May 10, 1988, with a naked Prince on the cover, sitting atop an orchid. It was his most spiritual album to date, recorded in just seven weeks, from mid-December 1987 to late January 1988, its theme rooted in the struggle between good and evil. Alphabet St. was the first single to hit the airwaves, and immediately become a Top 10 hit. Lovesexy’s opening track is a song called Eye No, and the spoken lyrics at the beginning of the song belonged to a female that Prince referred to as his ‘Spirit Child’:

Rain is wet and sugar is sweet / Clap your hands and stomp your feet / Everybody, everybody knows / When love calls you gotta go

The voice belongs to Chavez.

“After meeting Prince, we started spending more and more time together,” she says. “It was a period of great creativity for both of us, and we were inspired by each other. For me, stepping into his world was like a fairy tale. Just being exposed to his creativity was unreal. Lovesexy is like a snapshot of our time together.”

What many don’t realize is that, while Prince was hard at work on Lovesexy, he was simultaneously working with Chavez on material for her debut album.

“It started when he put me in the studio at Paisley Park, just to see what I could do,” Chavez explains. “It was just me by myself, which was a little intimidating, and I honestly had no idea what I was going to do once I go there. I was nervous and recorded some very strange pieces, but Prince was great at making me feel comfortable. It was magical. He seemed so relaxed during that period when we were together.

“Some of the music that I produced during those sessions was open word. I wasn’t sure what his reaction would be, but he really liked my speaking voice, so I think that’s where he got this idea for a poetry album. He said, ‘If you write 21 poems, we’ll do a poetry record.’ Of course I agreed. I wrote feverishly for the next two weeks to get them done.”

The music that emerged would ultimately be called May 19, 1992.

Lovesexy and May 19, 1992 are two records that almost mirror each other,” she says. “We were having some very deep, spiritual conversations during that period. I was writing poems at the same time that he was writing Lovesexy, and we spent a lot of time talking. Because of that, the two records have the same themes. Lovesexy has I Wish U Heaven, and my record has Heaven Must Be Near, and they are very similar because we were talking about the same things, challenging each other, sharing our thoughts and emotions. We talked a lot about God, love, and sex…how we felt about those things. I don’t remember the specifics of the conversations, but the whole process was more like an experience or a journey – a discovery – rather than two people sitting down and writing lyrics.”

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A nude Prince on the Lovesexy cover was met with commercial resistance; Wal-Mart refused to carry the record, and there were other chains that carried it but wouldn’t put it out on the floor. By then, Chavez’s run-time with her new friend had run its course.

“The amount of time that we spent with each other was relatively short,” Chavez offers. “It was maybe three months in total, but in those three months we spent a lot of time together, and we wrote two records – he wrote his, and I wrote mine. Mine didn’t come out until a few years later, but they were written at the same time.”

Their recordings finished, Prince turned his attention to touring.

“Our work just took us in different directions,” Chavez says. “That was an intense period of time; it was like being in a winter bunker with him for three months. We were just together for that whole season. A year later, I got a call from him, and he said he’d been working on Heaven Must Be Near, so then we started working on it again.”

pt2

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Reply #14 posted 10/03/16 9:16am

OldFriends4Sal
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Cross the Line

Go 2 School
Get a Job
U can rule
while I'm tending

the garden

I would tend your flowers

How general would it B

by works we speak
funk me

Would taste so beautiful
and smell so sweet

I'll lick your body

from your head 2 your feet

say the sings I want 2 hear
U can be my dame
I'll B your sheik
And your legs

your lover,

your slave the way U B

The reason U keep him

your tongue

your kind

U love it

Suck your man

2 understand

I love U
Cause God gave U 2 me

so 4 ever I will B

your fantasy

I know U R there

Can U feel me?

Cross the Line

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Reply #15 posted 10/03/16 9:55am

jdcxc

She is beautiful. P had amazing taste.
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Reply #16 posted 10/03/16 10:08am

LovesexyIsThe1

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clapping thumbs up!

Lovesexy Funkateer
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Reply #17 posted 10/03/16 10:49am

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It's just around the corner {x4}

Oh my, look at all the people

What will become of them all?

They know there's something else

They're just not listening

They know

Gotta get the message through

Gotta help them see

Help them see a better way

The new kingdom is coming

We gotta prepare 7 corners -

gotta be there

Well, here we are 7 corners

Feels right,

but how do I know?

Father, won't U give me a sign?

I feel U here with me

What's the sign?

I feel U Thank U {x2}

7 corners - 2 souls fight

One wants money, one wants light

Without peace, without love

Nothing's ever gonna turn out right

The child of the spirit,

neither one can ignore

Here 2 show them heaven's door

Love always wins in the end

Well, here we are 7 corners

Feels right,

but how do I know?

Father, won't U give me a sign?

I feel U here with me What's the sign?

I feel U Thank U {x2}

7 corners - 2 souls fight

One wants money, one wants light

Without peace, without love

Nothing's ever gonna turn out right

The child of the spirit,

neither one can ignore

Here 2 show them heaven's door

Love always wins

Image result for Ingrid Chavez 1987

Seven Corners is an unreleased track by Ingrid Chavez recorded in Summer 1989 at Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA

The track is a spoken poem with a backdrop of piano, synths and a bass drum (sounding like a beating heart). The lyrics effectively sum up the story of the Graffiti Bridge movie -

"Seven Corners, two souls fight. One wants money, one wants light. Without peace, without love, nothing's ever gonna turn out right. A child with a spirit neither one can ignore, here to show them heaven's door. Love always wins in the end." Some lyrics from the poem were spoken by Ingrid Chavez in the movie. The song remains unreleased, however.

-PrinceVault

from the Graffiti Bridge movi 2nd script

The Guardsman can hear
the music as far as the bridge. He grooves a little. The
sound of faint singing interrupts him. He turns to look
behind him. A woman walks from out of the light on the
bridge. She is beautiful. The Guardsman gasps. She comes
closer never making eye contact. Only focusing on the city
of Seven Corners.

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FUNKNROLL

Thanks for sharing this. Those Blue Tuesday details are somewhat harrowing. Back in they day I'd heard people call the Tuesday after weekend partying "Suicide Tuesday" because the crash from ecstasy arrived on Tuesday and brought feelings of despair. Chavez' (own) appeal was always lost on me. A little too close to word salad for my tastes. But her influence on Prince seems undeniable. How can you NOT get what Lovesexy is?! Some people need explicit direction to a roadmap and dictionary via semaphore batons. Hate to hear that he sounded so damn lonely.
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Reply #19 posted 10/04/16 10:00am

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FUNKNROLL said:

Thanks for sharing this. Those Blue Tuesday details are somewhat harrowing. Back in they day I'd heard people call the Tuesday after weekend partying "Suicide Tuesday" because the crash from ecstasy arrived on Tuesday and brought feelings of despair. Chavez' (own) appeal was always lost on me. A little too close to word salad for my tastes. But her influence on Prince seems undeniable. How can you NOT get what Lovesexy is?! Some people need explicit direction to a roadmap and dictionary via semaphore batons. Hate to hear that he sounded so damn lonely.


The bold text here, along with everything else posted in this thread, is the main reason that Anna Stesia is such a powerful song. It is his very personal account, of the entire epiphany he experienced that night, which influenced him to stop release of the Black Album.

Anna Stesia is his one of his most personal songs, and there was a reason it SOCKED YOU IN THE CHEST, at the Lovesexy show! He bared his soul on this track!

Lovesexy Funkateer
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Reply #20 posted 10/06/16 8:03am

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FUNKNROLL said:

Thanks for sharing this. Those Blue Tuesday details are somewhat harrowing. Back in they day I'd heard people call the Tuesday after weekend partying "Suicide Tuesday" because the crash from ecstasy arrived on Tuesday and brought feelings of despair. Chavez' (own) appeal was always lost on me. A little too close to word salad for my tastes. But her influence on Prince seems undeniable. How can you NOT get what Lovesexy is?! Some people need explicit direction to a roadmap and dictionary via semaphore batons. Hate to hear that he sounded so damn lonely.

wow did not know that

Blue Tuesday

The depressed day (or days) you have in the 72-96 hours after ingesting ecstasy. (Does not have to actually be a Tuesday) How it came about: Most people who go to school and/or work but who use X will pop a pill on a Friday night and party until Saturday. The imbalances caused by the massive release of serotonin while using the drug causes your receptors to temporarily malfunction and by Tuesday one is usually feeling inexplicably sad or depressed.
I wondered if it was my Blue Tuesday that made sex so awful for me, that evening. Technically it was spot on, but I couldn't get my head in the game and really enjoy it.
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7 Corners reminds me of Still Would Stand All Time

I wish we could get a deeper interview with Ingrid(as well as had one with Prince(RIP)) on how these the 21 poems and Lovesexy music intertwined

It's just around the corner, it's just around the block
This love that I've been waiting for, a Love solid as rock
A Love that reaffirms that we are not alone
A Love so bright inside you it glows
And night and day would run together, and all things would be fine
Still would stand all hate around us
Still would stand all time
Still would stand all time

It's not a thousand years away, it's not that far my brother
When men will fight injustice instead of one another
Its not that far if we all say yes and only try
Then Heaven on Earth we will find

No one man will be ruler, therefore love must rule us all
Dishonesty, anger, fear, jealousy and greed will fall
Love can save us all

Oh, love, love, oh love if you would just please give us a sign
Still would stand all time
Heaven, heaven on earth we all want to find (we all want 2 find it)
Still (still) would stand all time

We are not alone people (we're not alone)
Tell me can you see the light (can ya see the light)
If you just open your eyes (still would stand all time)
So much you will know, so much you will show
Love, love, its not that far away if we all say yes and give it a try
(Got ta give it, a try, yes!) still would stand all time (I say still)
(so many times) so may times, I thought I could not make it
(still would stand all time)
Life was closing in I just knew, I just knew I couldn't take it
That's when love opened it's arms, and if you don't go in child
Still would stand all time (still would stand all time)
You better run to the light, leave your past behind
All things will be fine
Still would stand all time

Image result for still would stand all time lyrics

from the Graffiti Bridge movie 2nd script

The Guardsman can hear
the music as far as the bridge. He grooves a little. The
sound of faint singing interrupts him. He turns to look
behind him. A woman walks from out of the light on the
bridge. She is beautiful. The Guardsman gasps. She comes
closer never making eye contact. Only focusing on the city
of Seven Corners.

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Cat (Glover)

Prince, Madonna and I were the original lineup for Graffiti Bridge. That movie was strictly written for Prince, Madonna and myself. Period. Exclamation point.
That movie was actually written on the Lovesexy Tour. Everyone in that movie replaced us. Prince actually wrote the movie and most of it was what we experienced on the Lovesexy Tour. Madonna pulled out of the movie and I left Prince; I quit. So, he had to revamp the script.
That's when he got Ingrid Chavez and everyone else. But, Mavis Staples was one person that was originally supposed to be in the movie. She was always part of the movie. Sheila E. was part of the movie. Everyone else was a replacement. I don't mean to say it that way, it sounds kind of harsh and mean, but, I know the original script.
I was in the studio with Madonna and Prince when they were discussing the script. The story was totally different. I remember they were arguing over the script, bragging on each other, talking about each other's shoes and I was laughing. Madonna said to Prince "Cat and I should have a dance battle" and Prince said (speaking in a low raspy voice) "I don't think so. I don't think you want to do that. I don't think you want to dance against Cat." That's just how he said it. I'll never forget it.
That was two powerful people, together, in the same space—and me. I was more like a bystander listening and watching.
But, the whole movie changed.

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Reply #23 posted 10/06/16 8:54am

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laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Blue Tuesday 12.1.1987

Prince

Matt Fink
Warner Bro.

Karen Krattinger

Marylou Badeaux
Susan Rogers

Eric Leads

Cat Glover
Gilbert Davison
Mo Ostin

Ingrid Chavez

From the perspective of Warner Bros., the Black Album was emblematic of the label's concerns about Prince's career. Increasingly, his marketing decisions seemed designed to alienate the public rather than to increase his record sales; meanwhile, his material was becoming consistently less accessible. The company desperately wanted Prince to come up with catchy songs that would re-establish him as a potent hit-maker and guide him back towards Purple Rain-like levels of fame. What it got instead was The Black Album.

Despite Warners trepidation, plans for the release went forward and hundreds of thousands of vinyl albums, cassettes, and compact discs were pressed for distribution. As he often did just before putting out new albums, Prince went to a nightclub to audition it for an unsuspecting public. On December 1,1987- a little more than a week before its scheduled release-Prince went to Rupert's, a Minneapolis dance club. Entering undetected by the crowd, he made his way to the deejay booth and played songs without fanfare to see how club goers would react.



insert from: NightGod My source: Cat Glover

I filmed a behind the scenes video of her modeling shoot last year (the one many of you have seen on youtube), and spent a couple days hanging out with Cat Glover. She is very open and shared some amazing stories with me. This is one:

1987: Prince had never tried Ecstasy, and was curious about it after Cat told him what it felt like. He asked Cat to get him some (it came from her, where the common misconception is that it came from Ingrid). Cat was in LA when Prince made his request. She got some and flew in to MN and was staying at a hotel when Prince's limo showed up. While they were both in her room, Cat suggested Prince take half a dose "because he was so small". He took the full dose and told Cat to wait for him. He rode off in his limo and Cat didn't hear from him until much later.



Even more interesting is her source for where she got the Ecstasy in the first place: Anthony Kiedis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Geez, thanks Cat! eek sad

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Reply #24 posted 10/06/16 10:26am

OldFriends4Sal
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I read that you first met Prince at a bar in Minneapolis.
Yes. It was December in Minneapolis, so it was cold, and my friends dragged me out. I wasn't going to go to the bar. [Prince] strolled in and he kept looking at me, so I passed him a note at the bar and we got talking. I introduced myself as Gertrude and he said he was Dexter [laughs]. And that's who we were to each other forever.

When did Gertrude and Dexter start working together?
He asked me if I wanted to go for a ride to Paisley Park that night, so we went. That was it. I remember he left me alone in a room for quite some time. I had a notebook on me, so I did some writing. Later, I heard accounts of that evening that he'd gotten on the phone with producers and said, "I've met an angel," and stopped work on The Black Album.

How quickly after that night did you start writing poetry for Prince? Did you have any hesitations?
Prince told me to write 21 poems and we would make a poetry album, so I worked endlessly, 24/7, for the next six weeks before bringing them to the studio. I wasn't nervous to show him my work.
Prince had this ability to see creative potential in a person before they saw it in themselves. He made me feel better as a writer than I felt about myself.

And you recorded the whole poetry album in one take at Paisley Park. Did you show Prince the poems before you recorded?
No, Prince was hearing my poems for the first time as he played on the synthesizer in the studio. I would say a title like "Heaven Must Be Near," and he improvised as I was reading. It was a moment captured in time. We did the whole thing in one straight recording. I love the part at the end where we're just talking naturally about stuff like getting a bite to eat later. Those were real moments.

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Reply #25 posted 10/11/16 8:07am

wavesofbliss

thanks OF4S. i thought it might be of interest and i hadn't seen this pic anywhere on the org.

--/--

not much of a story behind it. i was living in nashville working on the periphery of the industry(like everyone does there) before i moved back to the midwest for university. i got into product management and radio promo and this was a thank you from IC to me for doing what i could. i was stunned to see 'sylvian'. then she explained that they had fallen quickly and intensely in love and married.

Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND
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Reply #26 posted 10/13/16 7:02am

OldFriends4Sal
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thank U 4 sharing that Wavesofbliss

wonderful

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Reply #27 posted 10/13/16 7:05am

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Music is the Power. Love is the message. Truth is the answer.

"GRAFFITI BRIDGE"

2nd Draft November 26, 1989

Graffiti Bridge

Black Screen

.

A Voice "Dear Dad,

Things didn't turn out quite like I wanted them to.

Sometimes I feel like I'm gonna explode!"

.

A white hot explosion rocks the screen.

Very dreamlike we see a figure running towards us from inside the explosion.

We cut to a man dressed in a guard-like attire spinning to camera. He smiles as the person running approaches him.

.

Guardsman

"So, come in."

.

He is talking to the Kid, who at first was smiling, but now looks lost.

.

Guardsman

"What's the matter, having second thoughts?"

.

They are standing on a bridge. A bridge altough dark at it's entrance becomes brighter and more beautiful with every step that one makes.

.

Guardsman

Do you wanna start all over again?

.

The Kid's eyes begin to well as quick flashes of his fate appear in his mind.

A burning street. A Jeep being shot at then swerving out of control.

A young girl who looks to be dead, is lying in the street.

.

Guardsman

You can still come back providing that you . Make certain choices.

.

The Kid looks again to the beautiful bridge that lies before him. He closes his eyes, bravely he turns and walks back to whence he came. The city he heads toward, begins to burn. So the Kid begins to run.

.

Guardsman (smiling)

Way to go, Kid.

.

A very dark, very run down city street houses what looks to be the end of the Glam Slam, the Kid's only posession on earth. It's on fire and Levi and Mico run out of the building.

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1. Heaven Must Be Near

2. Hippy Blood
3. Candle Dance
4. Elephant Box
5. Slappy Dappy
6. Little Mama
7. Jadestone
8. Wintersong
9. Spiritual Storm
10. Sad Puppet Dance
11. Whipering Dandelions

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