roxy831 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

roxy831 said:

Welp ...I'm not into mysticism or mediums and such BUT, I did feel his presence yesterday, and it was so strong, I had to leave my desk. He is reunited with the Divine, I truly believe. That's my 2 cents. Take or leave it. I chose to take it, and I will forever remember that feeling, and will ALWAYS want to experience that presence again.

I know what you mean. Has happened to me and others around me have witnessed. Strange because this has never happened before even with family members that have passed.

I've never grieved like this before, either...not even for family members. I have felt my grandmother's presence after she past, though.

As some of the readings have said, we need to step up/get out of our comfort zones to grow. Bewildering, yes but also intriguing, just like the man.

Lovejunky said:

MysticalChick said:

He's been talking to a lot of us who are on that vibrational frequency. He came to me the day he died and I was so torn up that I asked him to leave.

(Seriously. I did.)

I had to process the sadness first and then I asked him to come back and, of course, he has.

Thing is, he comes in on the wavelength where we are. I know one woman who brings him through and it's a very vengeful and angry energy. I asked him why the way I receive him is so different and he said that he chooses certain people to express different frequencies and ideas he'd like out there.

(Laugh if you want - even my "Logic Man" husband has said there's been too many coincidences for it not to be true.)

Here's what I know to be true (your truth might be different) - P was and is an Ascended Master who came here to do specific work through music.

I knew who he was before most people did (1979 or so) and have been a fan for that long. I have long felt a deep, other-worldly, hard-to-articulate connection with him (I bet a lot of you have as well) and he shared that we have a soul agreement to do this work together. When he died, it was as if my soul said "Welp, it's GO time!" - so much has happened since April 21 that is so bizarre and so cool at the same time. I trust all of it.

If you want to read more, below are excerpts and links to a 2 part article by MJ Pack and Amy Venezia. Amy brought P through for me in a reading when I wanted to know what his plans were even more clearly than I was getting. Lord. I got detailed plans and an entire layout of what's coming.

I recently read his band members called him a 'positive nuisance' and yes yes yes. He's as particular as you would imagine about what happens in 'his space' and has asked me to raise my standards in all I do, including my work with him. He knows what he wants and how he wants it done. As his partner in this work, I am willing to make that happen.

This is a vulnerable place for me, honestly, because I know I will receive judgement about all of this. And yet, I can't NOT do it, you know? He's asked me and I agreed. Whatever comes from that, I'm willing to accept.

Check this out:

Conversations with dead p.../ Part One

"

"First, you need to understand that he… knew. Before it happened. He was fully aware that his time on this planet was… complete. And, with that, he had already ascended to… higher levels of evolution in body. So when he left his body, um, he immediately transcended to a higher being. He is a higher dimensional being now. I would almost… he works very closely with the Ascended Masters, I see them around. He’s ascended to a high level. That’s how."

Conversations with dead p.../ Part Two

"And what he’s trying to say is what will get you there quicker, sooner, is to be able to be that open channel just like he was when he was in body. To connect with divinity in whatever way, shape or form that allows you to remember that you are THAT. For him, music. For him, sexuality. For him, passion. Devotion.

That was his way. And so what’s your way? What’s your way of knowing that divinity has just moved through you? And if you will allow yourself to do that more, and allow yourself to do the other less — which is to hurt, be in fear, be upset, be focused on fear-based this — if you’ll allow yourself to be connected to whatever it is to feel that you are part of divinity.

When I say divinity, I mean… the miracle of being alive. The miracle of the solar system and beyond. That’s divinity. It doesn’t have to be a religious figure. When you start choosing every day of your life to allow that more… that’s your go to, that’s your key. To when stuff like that happens. You remember… that is not truth. The truth is, I am that speck of divinity. And nothing in truth can hurt me or harm me. Even if somebody takes your body. He’s saying, look at him. Someone literally took his body. Took his life. Did they? No. He’s making the rounds! Remember? He’s having the most beautiful experiences. Nobody can hurt you or harm you. But to believe that they can is you releasing your own truth. To now join in the lie with them."

[Edited 9/14/16 3:38am]

He has been coming to me too Mystical CHick...

Thank you for your post....he has also been coming to some of my friends too....t

The energetic Field where he is now, is where he always was.

He didnt GO anywhere,rather he CAME here for some short time.

The message we have recieved is the same...

Dont get distracted by the Drama,

Work Hard

Be Authentic

Speak truthfully

Be Kind

LOVE GOD~Make your own connection~in your own Unique way

DANCE

YES..I believe he was ready to go, his work was done

WHatever happened is not important becasue Ultimately GOD is in CONTROL of everthing

TRUTH will come out eventually..

He evolved in front of us, transparently..he didnt hide his struggles, he showed us all, that he was like us..prone to being overtaken by carnal pleasures, but he never abandoned GOD from the Very Beginning until the end...

His legacy is one that will remain with us

He is an evolved being, and I dont care what anyone esle says or thinks...

His words and message will remain in circulation...think Rumi, Think Jesus

Not your every day ordinairy Human Being...

Thats just how it is....

I am grateful for he has shown me that I dont have to be some monk hiding in a Himilayan cave to make my connection with divinity...

All I really need is to Believe....

[Edited 9/15/16 17:48pm]

That was beautiful.

purplepoppy said:

benni says -

How very condescending for such an enlightened being.

"Those who know, do not speak. Those who speak, do not know." ~ Lao Tsu.

For starters, Prince believed in the Bible. The Bible states: Isaiah 8:19 "And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living?"

Leviticus 19:31 "“Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God. "

Leviticus 18:9-12 "“When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you."

Prince believed in the Bible. Anyone that knows Prince, knew that about him. That is not to say that Prince did not believe in a Divine Energy, because he did, but he would be the first to say, "Don't mess with mediums, go directly to the source."

To quote Prince, "The Bible is the guidebook to help men and women with their sins. If I'm going to get some advice, wouldn't I want it from Solomon? That man had a thousand wives. I mean, I want to talk to the guy who had a thousand women! I always accepted it, but I didn't understand it until I got into the Scriptures. When you read the Scriptures, you start to understand that, wait a minute, someone said this way before I did. I ain't the first one. If society did this, we would have a paradigm shift, and everybody would all get along. Everybody is supposed to eat. Everybody is supposed to treat people with respect. The more you get evolved in the truth, the more it affects everything. It affects every decision you make. Sometimes kids have to try different things. Well, let me try this-ism, or let me try that-ism until you get to the point where none of them really satisfy you; none of them give you peace. This is the beauty of God. Once you get with God's will, now you feel whole....you just want to look at what God's will is. They say I'm arrogant, but what I'm just trying to do is lead people to the truth. The truth is that we don't even know what the world will be like until we shake things up a little bit."

God, the Bible and psychic phenomena are not mutually exclusive. You can find an example of ANYTHING you think you want to prove or disprove in the Bible. It was written by people just as those who experience psychic phenomena are people. Nothing is an exact science.

No one has the one true way to God and that's the beauty of God. Everything in the world and beyond is connected in some way. You do yours, I'll do mine because THAT IS WHO I AM AND IT IS RIGHT FOR ME. Prince has influenced you because he read the Bible and I get that. He influences me in other ways. No need to be negative about other people's views with quotes about not speaking if you know the "truth". That is the point of this thread - exploring the way Prince is coming into our lives now that he's is passed. As Mystical said, we are not going anywhere, even if this thread goes poof.

One of your comments I can totally embrace is "Everybody is supposed to treat people with respect".

I've never said they were mutually exclusive. However, for those that are stating Prince would go through a medium to convey his message, obviously have never looked at what Prince believed. That is merely what I was pointing out.

As for my own beliefs, Prince didn't influence me because he read the Bible, and I'm not sure where you get that from. I never once stated, anywhere, that I was influenced by Prince because he read the Bible. In fact, quite the opposite. I was drawn to Prince because of his more mystical leanings. I never said anyone has the one true way to God. I know there are many paths to the Divine and that we each walk our own path. My own beliefs lean more towards the Eastern teachings of Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism. I meditate daily and have meditated for upwards of 8 hours at a time. I've also not told anyone to go "anywhere" so not sure why you are directing your "we are not going anywhere, even if this thread goes poof" comment to me. You are surmising a lot from my response which is not true but is built upon your perception of what you think I said. Which, thus, brings me to my final point - and you made it brilliantly for me.

Again, I am merely pointing out what Prince studied, and how deeply he held the truths of the Bible. I happen to agree with him when it comes to "mediums". Prince knew there was only one source and that one would go to that source to get the truth, not use a medium to filter that truth to you. If I want to experience the Divine and the Divine's messages, I go to the Divine, not to a medium to tell me what they took from a reading. Everyone interprets messages in their own way, in a way in which it makes sense to them, and then to filter that message to others, is not giving others what is true, rather it is giving them what is true based upon the mediums perceptions. For myself, I do not trust another's perceptions of the truth.

MysticalChick said:

God, the Bible and psychic phenomena are not mutually exclusive. You can find an example of ANYTHING you think you want to prove or disprove in the Bible. It was written by people just as those who experience psychic phenomena are people. Nothing is an exact science.

No one has the one true way to God and that's the beauty of God. Everything in the world and beyond is connected in some way. You do yours, I'll do mine because THAT IS WHO I AM AND IT IS RIGHT FOR ME. Prince has influenced you because he read the Bible and I get that. He influences me in other ways. No need to be negative about other people's views with quotes about not speaking if you know the "truth". That is the point of this thread - exploring the way Prince is coming into our lives now that he's is passed. As Mystical said, we are not going anywhere, even if this thread goes poof.

One of your comments I can totally embrace is "Everybody is supposed to treat people with respect".

Thanks for saying that so clearly, PurplePoppy.


Benni: If your belief is that speaking with those on the other side is devilish and wrong, that's cool by me. If your belief is that "God is love and love is God", that's cool by me, too. My path is mine as yours is yours and Prince's was his. Period. You are welcome to judge me all you want. I know and stand by what is true for me and I will stand accountable to God/All there is for those choices. I don't expect nor do I want you to take responsibility for the choices I make.

Also, I did not claim to be an enlightened being. Far from it, alas. But I know what is true for me and spoke that. You did, as well. I thank you for your perspective.

[Edited 9/19/16 7:53am]

And this is truth. What you, and others are pointing out in this thread, is what is true to you (or to them). It is all perspective. People can choose to accept your perspective as truth or not.

For myself, I trust my own experiences over that of another. I suppose that is why Buddhism and Hinduism speaks the loudest to me, because it is through direct experience rather than an intermediary. The message you are "spreading" is based upon your perceptions of your experiences and may or may not be true. Or, from the excerpts you posted in your first post, they are the perceptions of someone else. You state you did not claim to be an elightened being, but yet, you state in that same post, "He's been talking to a lot of us who are on that vibrational frequency." Which is implying that you are on some higher vibrational frequency than others. Then you went on to state, "P was and is an Ascended Master who came here to do specific work through music. I knew who he was before most people did." Again, the implication that you were/are on a higher frequency than other people, or, in other words, more enlightened. Now, I cannot judge how enlightened you are, it is not my place to do so. But an enlightened individual, one on a higher vibrational frequency, is usually one who is more cautious in their speech and does not engage in condescending statements towards others, as they know that we are all exactly where we need to be on this path.

But if we go back to what Prince actually believed, HE believed in God, HE believed in Christ, his whole life was centered around teaching others this truth. In your original post you state the medium is saying, "When I say divinity, I mean… the miracle of being alive. The miracle of the solar system and beyond. That’s divinity. It doesn’t have to be a religious figure." THAT would not be Prince's truth, nor the way in which he lived his life. All one needs to do is listen to his lyrics to know that divinity for him revolved around God and Christ as being the Divine force and religion was a central aspect of his life. So again, the reading is based upon the mediums perceptions and what you are willing to accept as truth.

For myself, have I experienced Prince in meditations? Yes. Have I had him come to me in dreams? Yes. Will I share those experiences with others? No. They are highly personal and based upon what I got from those experiences and they are extremely difficult to place into words, because the experiences went beyond language. But I respect Prince enough that I would not steer others from what he was teaching while alive. His message was extremely important, have love 4 one another, always look to God (go to the source - not through a medium), and I will not disrespect him or his memory by telling others anything to the contrary.

I really dont share this with people unless I feel the need to, but as a child I had a tragedy in my family were we lost five family members at one time. My grandmother raised me after that and when I was about 8 or 9 years old I would tell my grandmother that sometimes I would feel or hear things in the house. Of course I was a child and may have been afraid, but my grnadmother told me that what I was sensing was just my family visiting me and watching over me and she was right. When I started to see it that way the fear went away and it never bothered me again. My grandmother passed away in 2005 and I never cried at her funeral. I could not cry. About two weeks after we buried her I was sitting at home by myself and a strange, cold feeling came over me and I started to cry. I believe it was her visiting me to tell me she was okay. I do believe that the spirits of loved one's or even people you cared for like Prince can visit u to give you peace

Mkilpatrick74 said:

i am a Christian and i 100% believe people are capable of communicating w those that have passed on. i have really began to question life and what is Heaven really like amd whether or not I am wrong on my beliefs. i feel guilty for even questioning these things....ive told 'oved ones amd so fprth do NOT come visit me when they leave, lol. i may be in a state of overwhelming griwf, but i will be ok, lol. it scares me a little. spoke out loud to P telling him kinda same thing. as long as i feel peace abput them npw, im good. no need to "Drop by" for a one on one. love to u all!!

aww this is cute

But just like anything where there is good there is also evil and Ive had an experience with that part too. Scared the hell oughtta me

Maybe it happens more when people die tragically or unexpectedly. U know...when they didnt have a chance to say bye and wrap things up? I dont know

nursev said:

I really dont share this with people unless I feel the need to, but as a child I had a tragedy in my family were we lost five family members at one time. My grandmother raised me after that and when I was about 8 or 9 years old I would tell my grandmother that sometimes I would feel or hear things in the house. Of course I was a child and may have been afraid, but my grnadmother told me that what I was sensing was just my family visiting me and watching over me and she was right. When I started to see it that way the fear went away and it never bothered me again. My grandmother passed away in 2005 and I never cried at her funeral. I could not cry. About two weeks after we buried her I was sitting at home by myself and a strange, cold feeling came over me and I started to cry. I believe it was her visiting me to tell me she was okay. I do believe that the spirits of loved one's or even people you cared for like Prince can visit u to give you peace

Thank you for sharing this Nursey. Very powerful.

purplepoppy said:

nursev said:

I really dont share this with people unless I feel the need to, but as a child I had a tragedy in my family were we lost five family members at one time. My grandmother raised me after that and when I was about 8 or 9 years old I would tell my grandmother that sometimes I would feel or hear things in the house. Of course I was a child and may have been afraid, but my grnadmother told me that what I was sensing was just my family visiting me and watching over me and she was right. When I started to see it that way the fear went away and it never bothered me again. My grandmother passed away in 2005 and I never cried at her funeral. I could not cry. About two weeks after we buried her I was sitting at home by myself and a strange, cold feeling came over me and I started to cry. I believe it was her visiting me to tell me she was okay. I do believe that the spirits of loved one's or even people you cared for like Prince can visit u to give you peace

Thank you for sharing this Nursey. Very powerful.

Benni - How you feel about mediums has been noted. I would read a Prince and the Bible thread if someone wants to start one.

nursev said:

nursev said:

roxy831 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nursev said:

Maybe it happens more when people die tragically or unexpectedly. U know...when they didnt have a chance to say bye and wrap things up? I dont know

You may be right....this would make sense as to why I have never felt this with family that has passed, Just Prince.

I don't know about that PurpleDiamonds. I've lost two people in my life to gun violence, and I don't recall ever experiencing their presence. I guess we'll all know someday....

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nursev said:

I really dont share this with people unless I feel the need to, but as a child I had a tragedy in my family were we lost five family members at one time. My grandmother raised me after that and when I was about 8 or 9 years old I would tell my grandmother that sometimes I would feel or hear things in the house. Of course I was a child and may have been afraid, but my grnadmother told me that what I was sensing was just my family visiting me and watching over me and she was right. When I started to see it that way the fear went away and it never bothered me again. My grandmother passed away in 2005 and I never cried at her funeral. I could not cry. About two weeks after we buried her I was sitting at home by myself and a strange, cold feeling came over me and I started to cry. I believe it was her visiting me to tell me she was okay. I do believe that the spirits of loved one's or even people you cared for like Prince can visit u to give you peace

thanks for sharing your past. How tragic, sorry...

I only do if when I feel it may help someone...

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nursev said:

Maybe it happens more when people die tragically or unexpectedly. U know...when they didnt have a chance to say bye and wrap things up? I dont know

You may be right....this would make sense as to why I have never felt this with family that has passed, Just Prince.

I believe we get visits from them when something unexpected happens and they pass away. Its like they come to that person to give them peace. Just my thought.

roxy831 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nursev said: You may be right....this would make sense as to why I have never felt this with family that has passed, Just Prince.

I don't know about that PurpleDiamonds. I've lost two people in my life to gun violence, and I don't recall ever experiencing their presence. I guess we'll all know someday....

Interesting...I also believe that you have to be open to receiving their visit also. If your mind doesnt receive it then thats another situation.

nursev said:

roxy831 said:

I don't know about that PurpleDiamonds. I've lost two people in my life to gun violence, and I don't recall ever experiencing their presence. I guess we'll all know someday....

Interesting...I also believe that you have to be open to receiving their visit also. If your mind doesnt receive it then thats another situation.

Tru dat. I've always been one that's 'don't even try it' so, that may be on my part. I think because I've never 'grieved' a person to this extent until now, my door may be more open???? I don't know. $%^& that's sad now that I read it.....

roxy831 said:

nursev said:

Interesting...I also believe that you have to be open to receiving their visit also. If your mind doesnt receive it then thats another situation.

Tru dat. I've always been one that's 'don't even try it' so, that may be on my part. I think because I've never 'grieved' a person to this extent until now, my door may be more open???? I don't know. $%^& that's sad now that I read it.....

Well I dont really get off into this type of stuff, but I do know what Ive experienced personally with it and it is life changing when you experience it yourself. It changes the way you think about things at least

roxy831 said:

nursev said:

roxy831 said:

Tru dat. I've always been one that's 'don't even try it' so, that may be on my part. I think because I've never 'grieved' a person to this extent until now, my door may be more open???? I don't know. $%^& that's sad now that I read it.....

Well I dont really get off into this type of stuff, but I do know what Ive experienced personally with it and it is life changing when you experience it yourself. It changes the way you think about things at least

It's changed almost everything I think of for me....Sunsets, rainbows, forgiveness....God. I'm noticing I'm looking at it all differently...

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Astasheiks said:

nursev said:

nursev said:

oliviacamron said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

thank u so much for your reassuring and kind reply. his death has shaken me to my core for some reason. its so nice to have this forum to reach out to others who are in the same boat.

Patrick and Roxy, I am also a Christian. Here is where I'm confused. When the rich man who died wanted to go tell his brothers not to come to this place, he was not allowed to communicate with them and told there was no communication between the dead and the living. On the other hand, I myself have had a few bad experiences with ghost. How I assume since God has not made hell yet, these ghost are the souls that are going to hell. Jesus says when we die, he receives us to his self. So if Prince was wondering around on earth, I would be concerned for his salvation. This is something I really think about. I'm going to Paisley Park soon. As much as I love Prince , I don't want to see him. He is supposed to be in heaven. I too have had vivid dreams of Prince. The strangest is a few days before he passed, I dreamed he died. I was not even a Prince fan anymore. I only listened to Christian music. Anyway, these things can be confusing. But, we know what God says about people who seek to communicate with the dead. Mediums and such are very deceived by the evil spirits lurking around them. I'm sure Prince is not communicating with any person who practices evil. I know evil spirits can imitate another person. I seen it. I know this sounds insane.

This does not sound insane. The issue is not that we're "seeking to communicate with the dead." At least I sure wasn't ...BUT there are too many accounts of people of all faiths experiencing the presence of a loved one. My experience just last week felt like....it was as if the Holy Spirit and P was present in the same room. I know that sounds weird, I can't explain it any better than that.

roxy831 said: