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Reply #90 posted 09/19/16 8:30am

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He'd be upset about those profiting from the tours.

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Reply #91 posted 09/19/16 8:31am

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derrick31 said:

He'd be upset about those profiting from the tours.


With the tax bill they have to pay, it'll be a long damn time before anyone "profits."

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Reply #92 posted 09/19/16 8:36am

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derrick31 said:

He'd be upset about those profiting from the tours.

He was already doing Paisley tours over 15 years ago. I've been on at least 2. They weren't free. Prince was all about monetizing, and rarely did things for free. He's not here to receive the profits, obviously, but they are going to his estate. Also, he's told close associates, recently, that he wanted to eventually turn Paisley into a museum.

The only thing that rubs me the wrong away about it is how soon it has happened. I mean, the guy just died there. I don't know what the "right" amount of time would have been, but it was too soon for me personally.

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Reply #93 posted 09/19/16 8:40am

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the price of them seems high but hey whatever they can get. I was at a water park that was $50! I was like how can this be...but the place was packed.

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Reply #94 posted 09/19/16 8:43am

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Genesia said:

derrick31 said:

He'd be upset about those profiting from the tours.


With the tax bill they have to pay, it'll be a long damn time before anyone "profits."

what is a little sick about some of those taxes is SOME seem to be taxes based on an assumed value of the recordings in the vault. but wait? until they are released they have no real taxable value. It seems to me they will get taxed on them now and again when they do generate revenues. to me that is straight up theft. (but this is based on a very simplified explanation i read on this case)

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Reply #95 posted 09/19/16 8:46am

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derrick31 said:

He'd be upset about those profiting from the tours.

i do not think so. his main income had to be concerts. He was selling albums but not at a rate to support his lifestyle. So he would understand the shift in marketing.

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Reply #96 posted 09/19/16 1:39pm

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Look at it this way: if a person--anybody--had died in Paisley Park Studios while he was living, do you think Prince would have forever shuttered the building from public access and/or built a new studio/soundstage to conduct his business?

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I don't think so--that's not practical and I feel that Prince had a certain practical level of awareness for those kind of considerations. People were coming and going there all the time--the facility was an instrument for his creativity and for exposure of various talent to his fans. The building was open to the public when he was alive. He had plans to turn the place into a museum.

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I am 100% for touring Paisley Park. My only concern would be toward not letting the building stagnate into soley a museum. I feel it should contiune to function in its orginal design to some degree.

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Reply #97 posted 09/19/16 1:54pm

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

derrick31 said:

He'd be upset about those profiting from the tours.

He was already doing Paisley tours over 15 years ago. I've been on at least 2. They weren't free. Prince was all about monetizing, and rarely did things for free. He's not here to receive the profits, obviously, but they are going to his estate. Also, he's told close associates, recently, that he wanted to eventually turn Paisley into a museum.

The only thing that rubs me the wrong away about it is how soon it has happened. I mean, the guy just died there. I don't know what the "right" amount of time would have been, but it was too soon for me personally.

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Heck, retirees have to move to new homes due to difficulty of maintaing income to pay for pricey property tax assessments.

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I think that collecting revenue for taxes levied on the Paisley Park property is the driver of the fast timframe in opening as a museum. Prince isn't here to bring in money from tours. Revenue for the estate maintenance can be generated much more quickly through site tours than awaiting decisions on other legal assignments and sales that are under consideration. The property tax looms large and will shut you down fast if they are not paid.

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So--oh, no, let's go--to the Paisley Park tour!

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Reply #98 posted 09/19/16 7:38pm

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Noodled24 said:

rob1965 said:

Noodled24 said: Exactly. That's so cool, especially your last sentence. I still wonder why it's necessary to turn it into a museum? Was P maybe fooling around when he talked about the museum? You never knew with him. Keep using it as a studio for others? Why not? Absolutely. But a museum? On the other hand: those who really want to know what P smelled like may finally get their answer. Or is it enough to stick your nose in one of the Dixie toilets on the parking lot. And for those who dream and talk themselves into P's bedroom may finally get what they wanted. What will the museum do at Christmas time? Raise a huge Christmas tree? Will it be purple? Will they sell T-shirts at the gift shop with the text: 'My friends went to Paisley Park and all they brought was this lowsy T-Shirt'? Will they sell flowers and teddy bears wearing purple hats at the gift shop? That's cool because you can leave them right outside the fence along with an emotional pre-printed card saying: 'Miss U: this is what it sounds like when doves cry'. All available at the gift shop? Will the Dixies smell like Lavender? Is it possible to ride the bike from PR for a mere 15 dollars extra? Or play one of his guitars while you're being photographed? Subtitle: 'Say hello 2 the blue angel'? Is there children's day care for the older fans with children? Will there be children's day care for the fans who act like one? Will the tour be guided? If so, by a real person or will the visitor receive a set of headphones: $ 5,-? Spoken word in English, French, German and Japanese? Oh mighty dollar. [Edited 9/18/16 3:27am] [Edited 9/18/16 3:28am] [Edited 9/18/16 3:31am]


I think the "Prince: A Celebration" festivals were closer to what he was thinking. I'm sure he wanted fans to be able to see the guitars and the motorbikes etc. I'm not convinced Prince ever had plans to turn it into a museum. He almost certainly wasn't planning to add a Gift Shop & Cafe... if he was he could have done so at any point.

Acutally they always had a merchandise area at the parties and a place where you could order food/get drinks.

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Reply #99 posted 09/19/16 8:04pm

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I have a hard time with how fast everything came about so soon after he died. I mean, it hasn't even been a full year yet since he passed, and having folks visiting a place that he loved so much and died in, just gawking at his stuff that he's left behind and etc, just doesn't sit right with me.

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Reply #100 posted 09/20/16 9:03am

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Posted this in the Paisley Park sticky too -- thought I'd drop it here as well:

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New article on RollingStone.com on Paisley Park:

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"Workers digging through its rooms have found an array of treasures: from vintage outfits (including the one he wore at the Super Bowl halftime show in 2007) to a book with 40 to 50 pages of handwritten lyrics and a secret room that hid unreleased video footage....Even more surprising are the detailed guidelines Prince left behind for turning Paisley Park into a museum after his death – including a wall-mounted timeline of his life through the mid-1990s and messages and texts sent to friends that specify how he wanted fans to walk through Paisley Park. "We're seeing e-mails he sent four months before his death that say how he wanted it," says the source. "He wasn't foreshadowing anything. [But] he always wanted his fans to come here. He left us a big road map."

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Reply #101 posted 09/20/16 9:36am

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disch said:

Posted this in the Paisley Park sticky too -- thought I'd drop it here as well:


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New article on RollingStone.com on Paisley Park:


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"Workers digging through its rooms have found an array of treasures: from vintage outfits (including the one he wore at the Super Bowl halftime show in 2007) to a book with 40 to 50 pages of handwritten lyrics and a secret room that hid unreleased video footage....Even more surprising are the detailed guidelines Prince left behind for turning Paisley Park into a museum after his death – including a wall-mounted timeline of his life through the mid-1990s and messages and texts sent to friends that specify how he wanted fans to walk through Paisley Park. "We're seeing e-mails he sent four months before his death that say how he wanted it," says the source. "He wasn't foreshadowing anything. [But] he always wanted his fans to come here. He left us a big road map."



Reading this I feel much better. There is a roadmap. And even if some of the stuff P wanted to do isn't ready yet it's not like that stuff can't be added over time. A good way to get repeat visitors as well as new ones is to keep it fresh and not like a museum that can only look a certain way and can never change.
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