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Reply #60 posted 09/15/16 1:01am

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SheLovesMeNot said:

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Genesia said:


He let people in there all the time when he was alive. shrug



Exactly! He had people there all the time. He would dj for them just for fun for parties there, not to mention the endless shows he did, etc. Just regular folks most of the time. He wanted it to become a museum for goodness sake! This seems to be exactly what he wanted.


Prince allowed fans only in stage area for concerts etc and during celebrations certain places, and on his terms only followed by his rules. There is no way he'd agree to fans going anywhere beyond where he'd perform.

Except of course for the tours people could do
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Reply #61 posted 09/15/16 7:47pm

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Superfan1984 said:

I have to wonder what he would think about all of this. I know that he had stated that he wanted PP to be some kind of a museum but that was before he knew he would actually pass there. And what about the elevator? Is that part of the tour? As in, is it needed to get people up and down floors. I'm sure there are stairs but how will that work? Hopefully the elevator is not part of the tour.


Whatever happens it seems there will be groups of fans that have a problem with it. Everyone is royally freaking out right now about everything. My theory is that every one is upset about Prince's death, and rather than deal with what they are feeling, they are lashing out about anything they can find.

I've notice the same thing.

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Reply #62 posted 09/15/16 8:15pm

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Knowing that Prince's hairstylist Kim Berry is involved with this makes me feel better. She probably knew P better than most and worked for him for over 25 years. She said the band members would look to her to know what kind of mood Prince was in and whether it was ok to joke around or not. lol
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Reply #63 posted 09/16/16 6:23am

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Thank you, fanoftheman, I'd always thought he was at Linda Thompson (was that his girlfriend's name?) I always thought he was at her house, guess I was wrong. Didn't realize he was Graceland. Strange that P wrote Face Down with the Elvis references and now when you send in your application to work at PP it goes to Elvis Presley Blvd. eek

No he was with his fiance ginger alden

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Reply #64 posted 09/16/16 6:58am

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+1 Would definitely love to see unreleased performances of Prince at Paisley Park as part of the tour. I'm not sentimental about memorabilias or seeing the awards he got during the tour, personally.


If they were really smart, they'd do a tour on New Year's Eve and show video of the NYE show with Miles Davis (of which this might be the 30th anniversary - I can't remember exactly) in the soundstage.

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Reply #65 posted 09/16/16 9:33am

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I'm going off topic but no need to start an entire new thread- I'm wondering if the gift shop will sell clothing from different time periods? it would be amazing if they did- I would love the Emancipation white puffer coat--- the inverted moon man or whatever he called it outfit with the moon cycle- that would be so cool if they did that!

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Reply #66 posted 09/16/16 9:53am

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i sure hope so

or else we will have the Phantom of Paisley Park

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Reply #67 posted 09/16/16 9:54am

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I think so and plus Sheila E said too Prince was working on making PP as a museum.

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Reply #68 posted 09/16/16 4:53pm

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Superfan1984 said:

I'm going off topic but no need to start an entire new thread- I'm wondering if the gift shop will sell clothing from different time periods? it would be amazing if they did- I would love the Emancipation white puffer coat--- the inverted moon man or whatever he called it outfit with the moon cycle- that would be so cool if they did that!

I imagine it will be a fairly well-stocked gift shop, but I don't think they'll sell period clothing.

Think stuff like concert T-shirts, jackets, etc. Tour books, CDs, calendars, tamborines. I am hopeful that they'll sell Cloud Guitar replicas again.

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Reply #69 posted 09/16/16 5:29pm

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He could/and only would want to die at PP, so he did that. Pretty simple.

Also, he very much played down the gradiose, dramatic, fear-driven concept of death throughout his life.

So he'd surely NOT make a big deal about the elevator being either a sacred (nor a taboo) fixation on a PP tour or otherwise.

Roping it off draws more attention to it. So don't.

Just leave it alone and discretely off-access such that neither tourists (nor staff) are tempted to act stupid taking death scene selfies. And such that the focus remains on his life and his work.

It's so much more Prince-like to be understated and non-dramatic about the mere fact that an elevator is there.

It's fine, it's life, we can handle it folks.

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Reply #70 posted 09/17/16 11:53am

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If he was alive? No. Of course he wouldn't want rabid fans wandering around his building. It'd be annoying. He barely tolerated other artists who'd paid to rent studio time.

We're told "he wanted to turn it into a museum". But if he was going to continue recording and performing there, where was the museum going to be? I mean it's a big building, but it's not THAT big? The larger portions were regular rehersal/performance spaces... If he'd wanted a gift shop in there he'd have had one.

Personally I think of Paisley Park as one of the legendary studios... Paisley Park, Abby Road, Sunset Sound, Electric Lady. I want to buy an album by an artist 10 years from now and see "Recorded at Paisley Park Studios".



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Reply #71 posted 09/17/16 1:01pm

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No he would not. He would probably have private ones but not full on tghats why he had them gates up to keep the crazies out heller

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Reply #72 posted 09/17/16 3:53pm

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YES! He had clearly always planned to turn it into a museum. As for the elevator/area, I think it would be lovely to turn it into a "living wall" or vertical garden with plants (eg patrick blanc's art) which would be beautiful, symbolic & also ecological (as they help purify the air/stabalize room tempature/create oxygen) or perhaphs plant a tree in the shaft/spot (maybe even a fruit tree and ppl could recv a seed to take home and start their own tree as a rememberance?). This would honor his transition in a dignified an approp. way that people could celebrate while not ignoring it or trying to be "discreet". There will always be ghouls and I think this would stop them in their tracks.

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Reply #73 posted 09/17/16 4:27pm

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SheLovesMeNot said:

Prince allowed fans only in stage area for concerts etc and during celebrations certain places, and on his terms only followed by his rules. There is no way he'd agree to fans going anywhere beyond where he'd perform.

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Exactly right, Paisley Parks event were always strictly controlled...It's not like visitors could just go in his fridge and grab some food lol

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Whether or not he would be ok with it, I say no...but it is what it is shrug

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Reply #74 posted 09/17/16 11:35pm

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Superfan1984 said:

I have to wonder what he would think about all of this. I know that he had stated that he wanted PP to be some kind of a museum but that was before he knew he would actually pass there. And what about the elevator? Is that part of the tour? As in, is it needed to get people up and down floors. I'm sure there are stairs but how will that work? Hopefully the elevator is not part of the tour.




I don't think so. And yes: the elevator is part of the tour, you can bet on that. I hope it won't be used to move from floor to floor, because that would be very disrespectful, but it will be one of the features on the tour. It won't be disrespectful since the estate will do anything to create a fitting atmosphere, but I feel it's unsuitable and tasteless to create trampled ground of someone's home.
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Reply #75 posted 09/17/16 11:47pm

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PurpleColossus said:



SheLovesMeNot said:


Prince allowed fans only in stage area for concerts etc and during celebrations certain places, and on his terms only followed by his rules. There is no way he'd agree to fans going anywhere beyond where he'd perform.

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Exactly right, Paisley Parks event were always strictly controlled...It's not like visitors could just go in his fridge and grab some food lol


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Whether or not he would be ok with it, I say no...but it is what it is shrug

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Yup yup.
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Reply #76 posted 09/18/16 12:09am

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PurpleColossus said:



SheLovesMeNot said:


Prince allowed fans only in stage area for concerts etc and during celebrations certain places, and on his terms only followed by his rules. There is no way he'd agree to fans going anywhere beyond where he'd perform.

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Exactly right, Paisley Parks event were always strictly controlled...It's not like visitors could just go in his fridge and grab some food lol


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Whether or not he would be ok with it, I say no...but it is what it is shrug

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Exactly right, but I wonder where visitors will take a shite once PP opens its doors? Is there a line of Dixi toilets on the parking lot? Will there be a restaurant for those who will be hungry during or after the tour? Does that redtaurant serve alcohol? Or just tea and tofu?
Are there soda machines every 50 yds? Is it allowed to take pics and post them on fucking FB? Or is there a sign saying "Partyman says: No Pictures Please".
Or is there a possibility to buy postcards? Is it possible to arrange children's parties at PP, or seminars? Prince sceances? Spiritual healings? Fund raisers?

Leave the doors shut tight, I would say....
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Reply #77 posted 09/18/16 1:37am

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PurpleColossus said:

SheLovesMeNot said:

Prince allowed fans only in stage area for concerts etc and during celebrations certain places, and on his terms only followed by his rules. There is no way he'd agree to fans going anywhere beyond where he'd perform.

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Exactly right, Paisley Parks event were always strictly controlled...It's not like visitors could just go in his fridge and grab some food lol

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Whether or not he would be ok with it, I say no...but it is what it is shrug

[Edited 9/17/16 16:29pm]

Will the attendees to the tours be able to grab food out of his fridge?

will there be no control?

If you see the site selling the tickets and read the business case they made, its gonna be strictly controlled.

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Reply #78 posted 09/18/16 1:39am

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And in the end it is really very simple:

If prince was alright or not with these tours and wanted his wishes to be respected. He should have left a will.

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Reply #79 posted 09/18/16 1:40am

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Superfan1984 said:

Right. I don't think he would be either--- I know Elvis has Graceland but he didn't actually die there. I'm feeling conflicted about PP. At first I wanted to visit- now I'm not so sure.

Elvis Died in the Ensuite upstairs at Graceland thats why its closed off to public you can only look down stairs.

On August 16, 1977 at 2 pm Ginger Alden (his girlfriend at the tiem and supposed to be his future wife) awoke and noticed Elvis wasn't in the bedroom. She goes to the bathroom and finds Elvis on the floor with his face in the carpet. She beats him a few times and turned his head. She opened his eyes. The eyes were coloured blood-red. Too late.

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Reply #80 posted 09/18/16 2:06am

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zoso1978 said:

Isn't that what he wanted? For Paisley Park to become a museum? I was under the impression that he had it all set up with all of his awards, etc. on display to become a museum and that was his wish. hmmm

Also, wouldn't that be one of the best ways to remember Prince and preserve Paisley Park? I mean, what if it fails? & some idiot buys it? Or worse, torn down for new construction? We better all hope it goes as well as Graceland. nod & yes, I love Elvis and I've been to Graceland. Time warp back to the 70's.

Wholeheartedly agree with you, at least as a museum the building will still serve Prince´s memory. I am glad the estate didn´t sell Paisley Park or tore it down. One day I hope to visit Minneapolis and do the tour myself.

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Reply #81 posted 09/18/16 3:26am

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Noodled24 said:

If he was alive? No. Of course he wouldn't want rabid fans wandering around his building. It'd be annoying. He barely tolerated other artists who'd paid to rent studio time.

We're told "he wanted to turn it into a museum". But if he was going to continue recording and performing there, where was the museum going to be? I mean it's a big building, but it's not THAT big? The larger portions were regular rehersal/performance spaces... If he'd wanted a gift shop in there he'd have had one.

Personally I think of Paisley Park as one of the legendary studios... Paisley Park, Abby Road, Sunset Sound, Electric Lady. I want to buy an album by an artist 10 years from now and see "Recorded at Paisley Park Studios".



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Exactly. That's so cool, especially your last sentence.

I still wonder why it's necessary to turn it into a museum? Was P maybe fooling around when he talked about the museum? You never knew with him.
Keep using it as a studio for others? Why not? Absolutely.
But a museum?

On the other hand: those who really want to know what P smelled like may finally get their answer. Or is it enough to stick your nose in one of the Dixie toilets on the parking lot. And for those who dream and talk themselves into P's bedroom may finally get what they wanted.
What will the museum do at Christmas time? Raise a huge Christmas tree? Will it be purple?

Will they sell T-shirts at the gift shop with the text: 'My friends went to Paisley Park and all they brought was this lowsy T-Shirt'?
Will they sell flowers and teddy bears wearing purple hats at the gift shop? That's cool because you can leave them right outside the fence along with an emotional pre-printed card saying: 'Miss U: this is what it sounds like when doves cry'. All available at the gift shop? Will the Dixies smell like Lavender? Is it possible to ride the bike from PR for a mere 15 dollars extra? Or play one of his guitars while you're being photographed? Subtitle: 'Say hello 2 the blue angel'?
Is there children's day care for the older fans with children? Will there be children's day care for the fans who act like one?
Will the tour be guided? If so, by a real person or will the visitor receive a set of headphones: $ 5,-? Spoken word in English, French, German and Japanese?

Oh mighty dollar.
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Reply #82 posted 09/18/16 5:42am

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I feel that Prince would be okay with the tours, absolutely. I think he would see it for what it is: his fams showing their love and appreciation for him and his musical legacy. Over the years, he seemed to love having events and inviting people into The Park, so why not continue this practice. Also, and perhaps most importantly, he had already begun making plans to turn his iconic and storied compound into a museum. It seems that there will always be naysayers, but his estate is only carrying out his expressed wishes.

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Reply #83 posted 09/18/16 6:02am

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remko said:

PurpleColossus said:

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Exactly right, Paisley Parks event were always strictly controlled...It's not like visitors could just go in his fridge and grab some food lol

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Whether or not he would be ok with it, I say no...but it is what it is shrug

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Will the attendees to the tours be able to grab food out of his fridge?

will there be no control?

If you see the site selling the tickets and read the business case they made, its gonna be strictly controlled.

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Yeah they'll probably have it really controlled for the tours...I was just referring to all of the past events Prince put on having strict rules. It feels weird that Paisley Park has gone so quickly from really limited access to a "Come on in everyone!" attitude.

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Reply #84 posted 09/18/16 9:08am

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Reply #85 posted 09/18/16 2:31pm

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HE granted tours there while alive, so I don't think he'd have an issue with it. He was proud of what he'd built.

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Thnx.

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Reply #87 posted 09/18/16 2:35pm

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remko said:

SheLovesMeNot said:
Prince allowed fans only in stage area for concerts etc and during celebrations certain places, and on his terms only followed by his rules. There is no way he'd agree to fans going anywhere beyond where he'd perform.
Except of course for the tours people could do

lol

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Reply #88 posted 09/19/16 7:17am

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Noodled24 said:

If he was alive? No. Of course he wouldn't want rabid fans wandering around his building. It'd be annoying. He barely tolerated other artists who'd paid to rent studio time.

We're told "he wanted to turn it into a museum". But if he was going to continue recording and performing there, where was the museum going to be? I mean it's a big building, but it's not THAT big? The larger portions were regular rehersal/performance spaces... If he'd wanted a gift shop in there he'd have had one.

Personally I think of Paisley Park as one of the legendary studios... Paisley Park, Abby Road, Sunset Sound, Electric Lady. I want to buy an album by an artist 10 years from now and see "Recorded at Paisley Park Studios".



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Exactly. That's so cool, especially your last sentence. I still wonder why it's necessary to turn it into a museum? Was P maybe fooling around when he talked about the museum? You never knew with him. Keep using it as a studio for others? Why not? Absolutely. But a museum? On the other hand: those who really want to know what P smelled like may finally get their answer. Or is it enough to stick your nose in one of the Dixie toilets on the parking lot. And for those who dream and talk themselves into P's bedroom may finally get what they wanted. What will the museum do at Christmas time? Raise a huge Christmas tree? Will it be purple? Will they sell T-shirts at the gift shop with the text: 'My friends went to Paisley Park and all they brought was this lowsy T-Shirt'? Will they sell flowers and teddy bears wearing purple hats at the gift shop? That's cool because you can leave them right outside the fence along with an emotional pre-printed card saying: 'Miss U: this is what it sounds like when doves cry'. All available at the gift shop? Will the Dixies smell like Lavender? Is it possible to ride the bike from PR for a mere 15 dollars extra? Or play one of his guitars while you're being photographed? Subtitle: 'Say hello 2 the blue angel'? Is there children's day care for the older fans with children? Will there be children's day care for the fans who act like one? Will the tour be guided? If so, by a real person or will the visitor receive a set of headphones: $ 5,-? Spoken word in English, French, German and Japanese? Oh mighty dollar. [Edited 9/18/16 3:27am] [Edited 9/18/16 3:28am] [Edited 9/18/16 3:31am]


I think the "Prince: A Celebration" festivals were closer to what he was thinking. I'm sure he wanted fans to be able to see the guitars and the motorbikes etc. I'm not convinced Prince ever had plans to turn it into a museum. He almost certainly wasn't planning to add a Gift Shop & Cafe... if he was he could have done so at any point.

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Reply #89 posted 09/19/16 8:29am

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rob1965 said:

PurpleColossus said:

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Exactly right, Paisley Parks event were always strictly controlled...It's not like visitors could just go in his fridge and grab some food lol

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Whether or not he would be ok with it, I say no...but it is what it is shrug

[Edited 9/17/16 16:29pm]

Exactly right, but I wonder where visitors will take a shite once PP opens its doors? Is there a line of Dixi toilets on the parking lot? Will there be a restaurant for those who will be hungry during or after the tour? Does that redtaurant serve alcohol? Or just tea and tofu? Are there soda machines every 50 yds? Is it allowed to take pics and post them on fucking FB? Or is there a sign saying "Partyman says: No Pictures Please". Or is there a possibility to buy postcards? Is it possible to arrange children's parties at PP, or seminars? Prince sceances? Spiritual healings? Fund raisers? Leave the doors shut tight, I would say.... [Edited 9/18/16 0:24am]


They'll go to the bathroom in the same place they went when there were events there. (The bathrooms were quite nice, by the way.)

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