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Thread started 09/08/16 11:57am

Astasheiks

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If No Heels and No Jumping off of Risers?

Mostly likely Prince would still be doing this, correct??? As old as they are and they are still performing. Also Mick Jagger is still running around in his 70's, but he hasn't been wearing heels and jumping off of risers either. Wish we would have had P this long!

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Reply #1 posted 09/08/16 12:49pm

BillieBalloon

Mick may not have worn heels but him and his bandmates took enough class A to medicate the entire population of a small country for years.

Mick is very lucky, that's all I'm saying.
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Reply #2 posted 09/08/16 2:36pm

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Hard to say. I'm not sure the heels were the problem. It's the splits/jumping off risers that would do a number on hips and knee joints. Maybe he thought he needed...something. I think it's safe to say that after that 'breakout' - he could have sat and sung the whole show...and still blown every single audience away. However, if he was genetically pre-disposed for arthritis - sometimes that's completely unavoidable no matter what actions/precautions are taken. sigh disbelief

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Reply #3 posted 09/08/16 2:47pm

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I was watching the Lovesexy 88 concert and I couldn't help wondering the same thing... If he just hadn't worn those damned high-healed boots.. sad
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Reply #4 posted 09/08/16 3:22pm

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after his death watching him perform splits in heels and jumping off pianos and risers so much for so long...it's painful to watch. all the stuff he did was strenuous regularly. add the heels? idk how he did it...but he did and he did it for us.

side bar: the clothes the makeup the heels....it was Prince. i don't wanna think about him without them. that masculine cool ass stroll in women's clothes. you can't beat that shit lol it's so awesome.

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Reply #5 posted 09/08/16 3:22pm

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Really can't say...don't know his medical history or familial predispositions. Would've been great to see him grow older, but it wasn't in the plan.
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Reply #6 posted 09/08/16 3:31pm

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I always thought that if Prince had been a bit taller he wouldn't have worn high heels, which would have led to his clothes in general not being so androgynous, which would have made him a lot more popular amongst certain sections of the public. But he wouldn't have been the Prince that I loved. Likewise, if he hadn't jumped around and done the splits in those high heels he might still be alive, but he might be a completely different artist.
What I'm trying to say is that there is no point in 'what ifs' anymore. But I'm with you: watching it now, it makes me really sad.
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Reply #7 posted 09/08/16 3:33pm

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BillieBalloon said:

Mick may not have worn heels but him and his bandmates took enough class A to medicate the entire population of a small country for years. Mick is very lucky, that's all I'm saying.

lol They ALL are! smile

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Reply #8 posted 09/08/16 3:33pm

terrig

Its impact first heels or no that break down the body first - add heels and it triples everything.

I did what prince (jumping for hours daily) did but in sneakers for going on 30+ years... can still do it but very judiciously ....

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Reply #9 posted 09/08/16 3:54pm

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Well , I heard his heels are reinforced with steel so they wouldn't break anymore, so yes that and jumping led to the domino effect. I hade a dream that Prince was walking past me, it was the Controversy era, I screamed to him, " Prince, don't take the Fentanyl , no don't jump, wait ,don't dance ! " sad
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Reply #10 posted 09/08/16 4:09pm

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There was an article about ballet dancers and retirement age in the New Yorker a while ago where it said most retire mid to late 30s. And they're not jumping in heels or with a guitar strapped to them. Even retiring at that age, they often still suffer from post-ballet injuries.
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Reply #11 posted 09/08/16 4:10pm

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Well if P still insisted on the heels and all the jumping off of risers, and in the air with heels If he had the hip surgery along with blood transfusion he could still be here which goes back to Larry Graham and the JWs! sad

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Reply #12 posted 09/08/16 5:44pm

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So Keith Richards is still here,

But not our Prettyman?!?!

WTF Right?

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Reply #13 posted 09/08/16 6:23pm

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panpac777 said:

So Keith Richards is still here,

But not our Prettyman?!?!

WTF Right?

yeahthat It's what my husband and I said to each other on 4/22.

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Reply #14 posted 09/08/16 6:27pm

lwr001

He wouldn't be the person we knew
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Reply #15 posted 09/09/16 4:44am

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It only takes one time to cause damage. I used to do a "knee slide" move on the climax of my band's set, where just before my final vocal part I'd drop to my knees and slide from a run up towards the front of the stage.

I never thought much of it but then when flying back from tour one time my right knee just starting hurting like it never had! It had never hurt after doing it but then all of a sudden I just had a huge amount of pain in that exact spot out of nowhere whilst on the plane.

I've stopped doing that move now.

Prince doing jumps, in heels, night after night after night, for years? Well, we don't have the full autopsy results but I'd stake money on there being significant permanent damage in different parts of his body.
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Reply #16 posted 09/09/16 7:18am

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nursev said:

Really can't say...don't know his medical history or familial predispositions. Would've been great to see him grow older, but it wasn't in the plan.

So true!

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Reply #17 posted 09/09/16 7:57am

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Probably not the heels, but the jumping and hardcore splits. He used to work those splits.

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Reply #18 posted 09/09/16 8:44am

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I was just thinking about that a lot today actually. It's true that any repeated impact can definitely do long-term damage on the joints. I nearly ruined my ankles/feet after a long session of rope-skipping barefeet on the grass once and it took me nearly two years to walk normally again, and every now and then, the pain in my feet returns, especially when going down the stairs. And that was only after an afternoon. Now to think what Prince did most of his life... It hurts just to think about it.

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Reply #19 posted 09/09/16 8:56am

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Militant said:

It only takes one time to cause damage. I used to do a "knee slide" move on the climax of my band's set, where just before my final vocal part I'd drop to my knees and slide from a run up towards the front of the stage. I never thought much of it but then when flying back from tour one time my right knee just starting hurting like it never had! It had never hurt after doing it but then all of a sudden I just had a huge amount of pain in that exact spot out of nowhere whilst on the plane. I've stopped doing that move now. Prince doing jumps, in heels, night after night after night, for years? Well, we don't have the full autopsy results but I'd stake money on there being significant permanent damage in different parts of his body.

(Sorry, I hadn't read this before posting my comments above) Yes, I can definetly relate to that. I hope your knee has recovered since.
Hopefully it was worth the pain and the audience enjoyed watching you doing those slides whilst you still could, that must have been quite something cool

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Reply #20 posted 09/09/16 9:23am

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panpac777 said:

So Keith Richards is still here,

But not our Prettyman?!?!

WTF Right?



I for one am glad Keef is still here. It might have behooved yer man to take a leaf out of Keef's book on the blood tip.



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Reply #21 posted 09/09/16 10:01am

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Astasheiks said:

Well if P still insisted on the heels and all the jumping off of risers, and in the air with heels If he had the hip surgery along with blood transfusion he could still be here which goes back to Larry Graham and the JWs! sad


--- Billy Sparks said on Tom Joyner show that Prince had hip surgery. So stop blaming the JWs. The truth is these surgeries can only do so much and we do not know if his problems were genetic.
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Reply #22 posted 09/09/16 2:48pm

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Astasheiks said:

Well if P still insisted on the heels and all the jumping off of risers, and in the air with heels If he had the hip surgery along with blood transfusion he could still be here which goes back to Larry Graham and the JWs! sad

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Don't blame the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Prince could have banked up his own blood in advance of the surgery so that if he did require a blood transfusion, it would have been his own blood.

But most of these surgeries don't require blood transfusions.

I just had my knee operated on last week, no transfusion needed.

I specifically asked my physical therapist about Prince.

i.e. Did he think it was the splits or the high heels that got Prince.

He said that he didn't know about the splits, but that high heels change your posture in ways that are bad for your entire body.

And that while it was probably a combination of things that got Prince, there is no doubt that the high heels were a major contributor to his hip problems.

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Reply #23 posted 09/16/16 1:52pm

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Militant said:

It only takes one time to cause damage. I used to do a "knee slide" move on the climax of my band's set, where just before my final vocal part I'd drop to my knees and slide from a run up towards the front of the stage. I never thought much of it but then when flying back from tour one time my right knee just starting hurting like it never had! It had never hurt after doing it but then all of a sudden I just had a huge amount of pain in that exact spot out of nowhere whilst on the plane. I've stopped doing that move now. Prince doing jumps, in heels, night after night after night, for years? Well, we don't have the full autopsy results but I'd stake money on there being significant permanent damage in different parts of his body.

You're so right... Even after stop doing jumps in heels, notice he quit doing that the last 5-10 years or so but the damaged must have already been done sad confused neutral

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