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Reply #30 posted 09/03/16 10:42pm

pinkeekeen

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Ok - so Prince had hundreds of people there at a time for events and NOW they need to make over things?



I am not sure I even want to go now b/c as friends we have a picture of what PP is and now thats going to change?



Perhaps make the tour groups smaller and more manageable. I thought they might put down a plastic runner on the carpet, or provide shoe covers, but taking out windows and changing things around?



Hmm....I guess we wait and see how it all turns out. Like others have said - business - the business of Prince. So sad.



I don't know why some hundred year old houses are virtually untouched and open for tours, and are


'museums' but Prince's house needs an overhaul? Case in point - Graceland Mansion. https://youtu.be/QcvHNmJ1Dz0



Makes no sense to me.



Anyone in going on a tour in October, please report back.



Does anyone have the source of when Prince said he wanted PP to be a museum -actual quote/interview?



Thanks. Peace, love and healing





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[Edited 9/3/16 10:28am]

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Taken from the final Rolling Stone interview. Not a direct quote but the only mention I've seen

"There's room for Purple Rain or the Super Bowl here," he notes of one empty space, murmuring something about eventually turning Paisley Park into a museum. It already seems a bit like one: a huge, dark, nearly empty space with only a skeleton crew on hand.
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Reply #31 posted 09/03/16 10:54pm

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I have been to Graceland. I remember it being suprisingly small (the portion he lived in I mean) and its original outdated furniture, wall paper etc was the same as probably it was when he died. It was actually kind of a underwhelming...but I am not a massive Elvis fan.

KnightPhantom said:

Thanks rogifan for the info! wink

BobGeorge909 said:

Isn't tourism off or very slow during the frozen months up there? I presume during that timeframe they will increase or start studio time. Probably even have late night/early morning(typical non-business hours) studio time available year round. Studio time would make good money for the facility with proper management. The notion of Graceland running the gig irks me mostly because Graceland itself irked me. I felt like i was strolling through some dead dudes living room. This project seems fundamentally different though, so my misgivings are probably unwarranted. If I did make the trek, I'd want there to be collectibles for sale entailing gift shops. I'd like proper facilities so more restrooms are probably in order to accommodate modest traffic. What was creepy about Graceland was if felt like you were invading something frozen in time. The notion here seems to be a living, working facility that promotes the culture of music in many forms. Production, consumption, exhibition, large and small. That's great IMO. A little beyond the scope of what the 'shoe coverings' I think I saw mentioned could handle. I hope people don't want or that the facility doesn't become some kind of penetrable time capsule. Ew. Phooey on that. Prince was music. The facility should reflect that. Not anything along the lines of a time capsule. Though it wasn't at the original site, the Stax museum was a much better facility IMO, especially in relation to what Graceland is. [Edited 9/3/16 13:06pm]

BobGeorge I think you and I are on the same page. Please God don't let Paisley Park turn into Graceland!

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Reply #32 posted 09/04/16 12:41am

SheLovesMeNot

I can't say it enough...I do not like it! I'd rather they sell the building then to have people invading what was his life for so long. He's not there it's not the same! It's just way to soon to be making all these changes.
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Reply #33 posted 09/04/16 4:46am

rogifan

KnightPhantom said:

Thanks rogifan for the info! wink



BobGeorge909 said:


Isn't tourism off or very slow during the frozen months up there? I presume during that timeframe they will increase or start studio time. Probably even have late night/early morning(typical non-business hours) studio time available year round. Studio time would make good money for the facility with proper management. The notion of Graceland running the gig irks me mostly because Graceland itself irked me. I felt like i was strolling through some dead dudes living room. This project seems fundamentally different though, so my misgivings are probably unwarranted. If I did make the trek, I'd want there to be collectibles for sale entailing gift shops. I'd like proper facilities so more restrooms are probably in order to accommodate modest traffic. What was creepy about Graceland was if felt like you were invading something frozen in time. The notion here seems to be a living, working facility that promotes the culture of music in many forms. Production, consumption, exhibition, large and small. That's great IMO. A little beyond the scope of what the 'shoe coverings' I think I saw mentioned could handle. I hope people don't want or that the facility doesn't become some kind of penetrable time capsule. Ew. Phooey on that. Prince was music. The facility should reflect that. Not anything along the lines of a time capsule. Though it wasn't at the original site, the Stax museum was a much better facility IMO, especially in relation to what Graceland is. [Edited 9/3/16 13:06pm]

BobGeorge I think you and I are on the same page. Please God don't let Paisley Park turn into Graceland!


I think they picked the company that runs Graceland because they know what they're doing. Tyka certainly doesn't. And Bremer isn't in the business of running museums either. If only the man had left instructions on what he wanted when he was no longer here. Sigh. sad
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Reply #34 posted 09/04/16 5:24am

Eileen

KnightPhantom said:

Thanks rogifan for the info! wink

BobGeorge909 said:

Isn't tourism off or very slow during the frozen months up there? I presume during that timeframe they will increase or start studio time. Probably even have late night/early morning(typical non-business hours) studio time available year round. Studio time would make good money for the facility with proper management. The notion of Graceland running the gig irks me mostly because Graceland itself irked me. I felt like i was strolling through some dead dudes living room. This project seems fundamentally different though, so my misgivings are probably unwarranted. If I did make the trek, I'd want there to be collectibles for sale entailing gift shops. I'd like proper facilities so more restrooms are probably in order to accommodate modest traffic. What was creepy about Graceland was if felt like you were invading something frozen in time. The notion here seems to be a living, working facility that promotes the culture of music in many forms. Production, consumption, exhibition, large and small. That's great IMO. A little beyond the scope of what the 'shoe coverings' I think I saw mentioned could handle. I hope people don't want or that the facility doesn't become some kind of penetrable time capsule. Ew. Phooey on that. Prince was music. The facility should reflect that. Not anything along the lines of a time capsule. Though it wasn't at the original site, the Stax museum was a much better facility IMO, especially in relation to what Graceland is.

BobGeorge I think you and I are on the same page. Please God don't let Paisley Park turn into Graceland!


You were. That's exactly what you were doing. The tour assist device handed each visitor explains that in some detail. In an attempt to put minds at ease that will be clarified here again (and nothing personal, numerous posters have expressed such concerns).


Graceland was a private home. A personal residence. A house where a guy lived and at one time his parents and still at death his daughter and his gramma and his aunt and a general gofer or two downstairs and behind the property. A private residential home that people were still privately residing in more than a decade AFTER public tours began. Hence the time capsule nature of the core residential areas is critical to why it's still open today and a National Historic Site. A comparison to Stax isn't logical, a completely different type of venue and exhibit and working commercial property. Graceland was not a "facility". Stax was/is. Paisley Park was/is.


I assure anyone working up distress over this issue that Paisley Park is not, and has never been, a private single-family residential dwelling on a zoned residential lot. It was a recording studio and entertainment complex and Prince deciding to bunk there didn't change that. Any pre-planning he did for a future museum didn't change that either.

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Reply #35 posted 09/04/16 8:57am

DMarieP

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Eileen said:



KnightPhantom said:


Thanks rogifan for the info! wink



BobGeorge909 said:


Isn't tourism off or very slow during the frozen months up there? I presume during that timeframe they will increase or start studio time. Probably even have late night/early morning(typical non-business hours) studio time available year round. Studio time would make good money for the facility with proper management. The notion of Graceland running the gig irks me mostly because Graceland itself irked me. I felt like i was strolling through some dead dudes living room. This project seems fundamentally different though, so my misgivings are probably unwarranted. If I did make the trek, I'd want there to be collectibles for sale entailing gift shops. I'd like proper facilities so more restrooms are probably in order to accommodate modest traffic. What was creepy about Graceland was if felt like you were invading something frozen in time. The notion here seems to be a living, working facility that promotes the culture of music in many forms. Production, consumption, exhibition, large and small. That's great IMO. A little beyond the scope of what the 'shoe coverings' I think I saw mentioned could handle. I hope people don't want or that the facility doesn't become some kind of penetrable time capsule. Ew. Phooey on that. Prince was music. The facility should reflect that. Not anything along the lines of a time capsule. Though it wasn't at the original site, the Stax museum was a much better facility IMO, especially in relation to what Graceland is.

BobGeorge I think you and I are on the same page. Please God don't let Paisley Park turn into Graceland!




You were. That's exactly what you were doing. The tour assist device handed each visitor explains that in some detail. In an attempt to put minds at ease that will be clarified here again (and nothing personal, numerous posters have expressed such concerns).



Graceland was a private home. A personal residence. A house where a guy lived and at one time his parents and still at death his daughter and his gramma and his aunt and a general gofer or two downstairs and behind the property. A private residential home that people were still privately residing in more than a decade AFTER public tours began. Hence the time capsule nature of the core residential areas is critical to why it's still open today and a National Historic Site. A comparison to Stax isn't logical, a completely different type of venue and exhibit and working commercial property. Graceland was not a "facility". Stax was/is. Paisley Park was/is.



I assure anyone working up distress over this issue that Paisley Park is not, and has never been, a private single-family residential dwelling on a zoned residential lot. It was a recording studio and entertainment complex and Prince deciding to bunk there didn't change that. Any pre-planning he did for a future museum didn't change that either.



yeahthat Thank you. PP is not/will not be graceland.
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Reply #36 posted 09/04/16 9:31am

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DMarieP said:

Eileen said:



KnightPhantom said:


Thanks rogifan for the info! wink



BobGeorge909 said:


Isn't tourism off or very slow during the frozen months up there? I presume during that timeframe they will increase or start studio time. Probably even have late night/early morning(typical non-business hours) studio time available year round. Studio time would make good money for the facility with proper management. The notion of Graceland running the gig irks me mostly because Graceland itself irked me. I felt like i was strolling through some dead dudes living room. This project seems fundamentally different though, so my misgivings are probably unwarranted. If I did make the trek, I'd want there to be collectibles for sale entailing gift shops. I'd like proper facilities so more restrooms are probably in order to accommodate modest traffic. What was creepy about Graceland was if felt like you were invading something frozen in time. The notion here seems to be a living, working facility that promotes the culture of music in many forms. Production, consumption, exhibition, large and small. That's great IMO. A little beyond the scope of what the 'shoe coverings' I think I saw mentioned could handle. I hope people don't want or that the facility doesn't become some kind of penetrable time capsule. Ew. Phooey on that. Prince was music. The facility should reflect that. Not anything along the lines of a time capsule. Though it wasn't at the original site, the Stax museum was a much better facility IMO, especially in relation to what Graceland is.

BobGeorge I think you and I are on the same page. Please God don't let Paisley Park turn into Graceland!




You were. That's exactly what you were doing. The tour assist device handed each visitor explains that in some detail. In an attempt to put minds at ease that will be clarified here again (and nothing personal, numerous posters have expressed such concerns).



Graceland was a private home. A personal residence. A house where a guy lived and at one time his parents and still at death his daughter and his gramma and his aunt and a general gofer or two downstairs and behind the property. A private residential home that people were still privately residing in more than a decade AFTER public tours began. Hence the time capsule nature of the core residential areas is critical to why it's still open today and a National Historic Site. A comparison to Stax isn't logical, a completely different type of venue and exhibit and working commercial property. Graceland was not a "facility". Stax was/is. Paisley Park was/is.



I assure anyone working up distress over this issue that Paisley Park is not, and has never been, a private single-family residential dwelling on a zoned residential lot. It was a recording studio and entertainment complex and Prince deciding to bunk there didn't change that. Any pre-planning he did for a future museum didn't change that either.



yeahthat Thank you. PP is not/will not be graceland.

I don't believe it will be either. Graceland was a private residence, now a time capsule rather than a museum. And don't forget Elvis's grave is also there. It's a completely different kettle of fish to PP which will still be a functioning facility. They will just be following Gracelands successful business plan, how to plan and manage tours and promotion etc.
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Reply #37 posted 09/04/16 10:21am

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pinkeekeen said:[quote]

meagemini2 said:

Ok - so Prince had hundreds of people there at a time for events and NOW they need to make over things?



I am not sure I even want to go now b/c as friends we have a picture of what PP is and now thats going to change?



Perhaps make the tour groups smaller and more manageable. I thought they might put down a plastic runner on the carpet, or provide shoe covers, but taking out windows and changing things around?



Hmm....I guess we wait and see how it all turns out. Like others have said - business - the business of Prince. So sad.



I don't know why some hundred year old houses are virtually untouched and open for tours, and are


'museums' but Prince's house needs an overhaul? Case in point - Graceland Mansion. https://youtu.be/QcvHNmJ1Dz0



Makes no sense to me.



Anyone in going on a tour in October, please report back.



Does anyone have the source of when Prince said he wanted PP to be a museum -actual quote/interview?



Thanks. Peace, love and healing





[Edited 9/3/16 9:50am]

[Edited 9/3/16 10:28am]

[/quote
Taken from the final Rolling Stone interview. Not a direct quote but the only mention I've seen

"There's room for Purple Rain or the Super Bowl here," he notes of one empty space, murmuring something about eventually turning Paisley Park into a museum. It already seems a bit like one: a huge, dark, nearly empty space with only a skeleton crew on hand.


Yeah, because a museum is a different animal than a studio/residence. And building codes change over time. You might be able to slide with some things if it isn't generally open to the public, but once it id, that place had better have everything on fleek or there will be problems.

It will never again be the PP that Prince owned, unfortunately, but I doubt they're going to alter it out of recognition. Just make it adhere to the standards of a museum.
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Reply #38 posted 09/04/16 10:23am

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I am glad it will be a museum. That is a victory. But I assumed if I went when it first opened that I would get there before the changes. I have never been. It's a long trip.
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Reply #39 posted 09/04/16 10:30am

1contessa

Wow, wasn't expecting that. Makes me wonder, since some have said that this is what Prince would have wanted........would he have wanted that? Since they are changing things, I wonder if they will make changes to the elevator also?

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Reply #40 posted 09/04/16 11:12am

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Guys, I think you are misunderstanding my 'please don't let it become Graceland' statement.
I get that PP and GL are different. One is a house, one a complex.
My concern is PP becoming a cheesy 'tourist trap'.
Again just my 2c cool
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Reply #41 posted 09/04/16 12:03pm

rogifan

1contessa said:

Wow, wasn't expecting that. Makes me wonder, since some have said that this is what Prince would have wanted.....would he have wanted that? Since they are changing things, I wonder if they will make changes to the elevator also?


Again if the man had left a will or instructions of some kind we'd know. But for all we know there were things he did discuss with family/associates that were never formally written down.
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Reply #42 posted 09/04/16 4:49pm

Pgeishirt

oliviacamron said:

rogifan said:


It doesn't bother me because all of this would have needed to happen if Prince was still here. It's not like they're doing this because they want to change the core of what PP is.

I thought they would make changes but I thought they would wait until January. One reason I wanted to go asap was to go before any changes were made.

I think you'll be ok. You will see it as near to the way it was on the last day that he was there. The air will still have his essence. When your tour takes place, not many people would have been through PP. You will be glad you went. Hugs smile
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