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Reply #30 posted 10/18/16 11:36pm

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Does anyone know anything about Per Nilson, the author of DMSR? I've been looking online to see if it is possible to contact him and request that he do an update, but I can't seem to find out anything.

I haven't tried looking for/through Uptown magazine - does it still exist?

Yikes - just found out about Uptown. In my defense, I was studying abroad that whole time, pursuing my own (abandoned) musical career. So I wasn't listening to anyone's music then ....

Promise to use Google and th search box more thoroughly!

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Reply #31 posted 10/19/16 1:22am

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Get the Per Nilsen stuff.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #32 posted 10/19/16 2:29am

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:


How do people feel about the book by Matt Thorne, it's the only one I own?

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It's okay, but it wildly overestimates Prince's post-1980s output. The non-linear structure is annoying as hell, and he's far too much of a fan. The endless reporting on Prince's 21 Nights gets boring very fast.


Opinions certainly are divided on this one! I think there are different versions of this book because mine (the Dutch translation) doesn't feature that 21 Nights report and goes all the way to the 3EG era. And I like it that there's at least somebody who tries to cover all of Prince's work, not just the glorious 1980s.
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Reply #33 posted 10/19/16 2:46am

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Reply #34 posted 10/19/16 4:14am

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LittleProfessor said:

Does anyone know anything about Per Nilson, the author of DMSR? I've been looking online to see if it is possible to contact him and request that he do an update, but I can't seem to find out anything.

I haven't tried looking for/through Uptown magazine - does it still exist?

Per has an account on the Org and has occasionally spoken with us. He has (unfortunately) made it very clear that he was done with writing about Prince. Hopefully he'll change his mind one day but one thing is certain: he cannot not be aware of the importance and popularity of his past research (his work has literally morphed the fandom), so he doesn't need to be petionned by enthusiastic kids: better to leave the man alone wink

Uptown magazine has been defunct for more than a decade.

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Reply #35 posted 10/19/16 4:23am

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BartVanHemelen said:

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It's okay, but it wildly overestimates Prince's post-1980s output. The non-linear structure is annoying as hell, and he's far too much of a fan. The endless reporting on Prince's 21 Nights gets boring very fast.

Opinions certainly are divided on this one! I think there are different versions of this book because mine (the Dutch translation) doesn't feature that 21 Nights report and goes all the way to the 3EG era. And I like it that there's at least somebody who tries to cover all of Prince's work, not just the glorious 1980s. [Edited 10/19/16 2:34am]

I agree. No matter how glorious they were, I'm a little sick and tired of reading the same old stories about the first decade of Prince's career, when so much about his recording sessions and life remains unknown after 1987 (and even more after 1995). Most books and documentaries will give you one hour/600 pages on 78-87 and 10 minutes/100 pages about 88-16. Well, I've been a fan throughout those last 28 years. A lot has happened, a lot of music has been recorded and released, I want to know more about all of it, particularly now that former employees and collaborators are not bonded by confidentiality agreements or the fear to never be employed by Prince again. Because of that I was pleased to hear about Jim Walsh's 90's book (though I fear it may cover 1990-1994 extensively and say little about 95-99, but let's hope).

I'm very excited about Madhouseman's upcoming book about the 83-84 studio recordings, though, but I'd give a lot to have similar, detailed books about P's recording process throughout his whole career.

I have to say I haven't read all those new books that have been published after 2005: I've read Liz Jones, Per Nilsen, Alex Hahn and Dez Dickerson only. A lot has happened in my life since 2010 and the lack of spare money, the fact that I've been living abroad and the lack of a tablet or kindle has discouraged me to purchase all those new books. I will soon purchase a tablet and I intend to catch-up and purchase all the books that are available in ebook format.

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Reply #36 posted 10/19/16 4:49am

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There have been other books with great info (i've read them all)..


But i've always 'respected' & enjoyed this book - and its one of the earlier ones..





I just finished reading Pop Life. It was a good read. The author gave his opinion on a lot of the music, which I think are along the same lines as most Prince fans but with a few differing views here and there. The downfall fall of the book though is that it was written in 1989, so anything from the 90's onwards are null and void. At least 20 pages were missing from the book I had so I only got to read up to most of the LoveSexy era. sad
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Reply #37 posted 10/19/16 4:55am

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Today I just got my ARC of this one. It is dues to be published in January 2017. Can't wait to dive in excited





Nice! Let us know if you like it. With a name like bookwoman I'm assuming your on goodreads? lol
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Reply #38 posted 10/19/16 7:50am

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databank said:

the lack of a tablet or kindle

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You can also read Kindle books through your browser, https://read.amazon.com/ .

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Reply #39 posted 10/19/16 8:30am

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databank said:

the lack of a tablet or kindle

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You can also read Kindle books through your browser, https://read.amazon.com/ .

I know but no way I read a boook on my PC.

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Reply #40 posted 10/19/16 10:05am

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I like it 'because' it's so old..

i've had mine since it was newly released and

i feel -

it was relevant then and it still holds up very well today..

over 25 years later.. IMO that's quite a feat.

luvgirl said:

MD431Madcat said:

There have been other books with great info (i've read them all)..

But i've always 'respected' & enjoyed this book - and its one of the earlier ones..

I just finished reading Pop Life. It was a good read. The author gave his opinion on a lot of the music, which I think are along the same lines as most Prince fans but with a few differing views here and there. The downfall fall of the book though is that it was written in 1989, so anything from the 90's onwards are null and void. At least 20 pages were missing from the book I had so I only got to read most of the LoveSexy era. sad [Edited 10/19/16 4:56am]

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Reply #41 posted 10/21/16 6:10pm

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I am an independent bookseller so I left Goodreads when Amazon bought them.

I give a review when I have read it. Probably next week in Memphis while watching Sheila E and The Time music

luvgirl said:

bookwomen said:

Today I just got my ARC of this one. It is dues to be published in January 2017. Can't wait to dive in excited

Nice! Let us know if you like it. With a name like bookwoman I'm assuming your on goodreads? lol

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Reply #42 posted 10/21/16 8:07pm

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I loved the Matt Thorne book. He definitely is a super fan, and it shows. He has a lot of respect, unlike others that I have read. I like how he focuses on the music and the genius of Prince, not so much the gossip surrounding him.

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How do people feel about the book by Matt Thorne, it's the only one I own?



AWESOME - I'm still reading it, the udated version that was published in Feb. 2016. He is clearly a major fan as well as a superb music journalist. I like he puts forth his opinions/analysis of the music (even when I don't agree with his specific take on a certain song or album). The focus is SQUARELY on the music, not on speculation of personal issues or tabloid-type stuff.

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Reply #43 posted 10/21/16 8:12pm

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His...the one we'll never possibly see lol

RIP Prince I will forever heart and miss U
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Reply #44 posted 10/21/16 8:32pm

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DiamondsnPearls44 said:

His...the one we'll never possibly see lol

Yuuuup I was really looking forward to Prince's book sad

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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Reply #45 posted 10/21/16 8:33pm

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DiamondsnPearls44 said:

His...the one we'll never possibly see lol

Yuuuup I was really looking forward to Prince's book sad

I really was too...had my money ready lol sad

RIP Prince I will forever heart and miss U
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Reply #46 posted 10/21/16 10:01pm

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Just finished the Prince: a Life in Music book. Probably nothing new for most, but it kind of packed a wallop just reviewing his career: the excitement of the 1980s, the fall from grace publicly and musically during the 90s, his creative revival with TRC and the rollercoaster since then. It was worth it for me.
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Reply #47 posted 10/22/16 8:03am

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calhounlovejoy said:

I loved the Matt Thorne book. He definitely is a super fan, and it shows. He has a lot of respect, unlike others that I have read. I like how he focuses on the music and the genius of Prince, not so much the gossip surrounding him.

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:


How do people feel about the book by Matt Thorne, it's the only one I own?



AWESOME - I'm still reading it, the udated version that was published in Feb. 2016. He is clearly a major fan as well as a superb music journalist. I like he puts forth his opinions/analysis of the music (even when I don't agree with his specific take on a certain song or album). The focus is SQUARELY on the music, not on speculation of personal issues or tabloid-type stuff.

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I'm looking forward to reading this book now. I really want to read a book written by a real fan.
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Reply #48 posted 10/23/16 2:07pm

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gandorb said:

Just finished the Prince: a Life in Music book. Probably nothing new for most, but it kind of packed a wallop just reviewing his career: the excitement of the 1980s, the fall from grace publicly and musically during the 90s, his creative revival with TRC and the rollercoaster since then. It was worth it for me.


Just finished it as well. Created the playlists from the book (with a number of additions and changes to create a full 5 disc set). It is a very well written book. No new information, but really well done. I would recommend it to someone who knows little about Prince. Right now it is $3.99 on iBooks.
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Reply #49 posted 10/23/16 4:48pm

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gandorb said:

You guys sold me on the Per DSMR book, burt was stunned to find the price of it on Amazon and no listing of it on EBAY. If I am reading it right, most used copies that are just in "good condition" with some markings are selling over $400. Surely that can't be true. Any ideas where I might find a copy for more resaonble?

Yep, the same with Possessed which in some cases is going for $1000.00. I got it from the library instead.

eek The one I have has a price tag of $9.99.

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Reply #50 posted 10/23/16 5:03pm

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Morningstarlet said:


gandorb said:

You guys sold me on the Per DSMR book, burt was stunned to find the price of it on Amazon and no listing of it on EBAY. If I am reading it right, most used copies that are just in "good condition" with some markings are selling over $400. Surely that can't be true. Any ideas where I might find a copy for more resaonble?



Yep, the same with Possessed which in some cases is going for $1000.00. I got it from the library instead.

eek The one I have has a price tag of $9.99.



Wow! Lucky you! Last I checked it was over $400 now. I have tried my local library with zero luck. None of the surrounding ones who do have it are allowing it to be borrowed which truly sux!!! I'd given anything to have it in any format possible.
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Reply #51 posted 10/23/16 5:42pm

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How do people feel about the book by Matt Thorne, it's the only one I own?

Not that great. I liked the opening and closing chapters a lot, where he seemed to be really engaging with the very idea of Prince and his position in pop culture. I wish the whole book had been like that.

Inbetween though he just tells the basic story as we already know it and fills up time with endless descriptions of, and judgements on, outtakes that usually just boil down to him saying "IMHO this song sucks/is great" and not much else. It's been a while since I read it but I seem to remember his information on what Prince was up to and where he was coming from from the 90's up to about 2007 to be pretty sketchy as well, although he at least covers all the albums. Those looking for some fam-ing out (OMG ANOTHER MASTERPIECE - PRINCE TRULY WAS TEH GREATEST 4EVER for 600 pages) will be disappointed as well as he's very disdainful of a lot of the stuff.

Having said all that, it does the job, he does get some exclusive interviews in it, and unlike many of the others its readily available, but there's definitely better out there.


DMSR is essential, yes, and I thought Alan Light's Purple Rain book was excellent, if obviously only about that one album.

The 33 and a Third on Sign o The Times is quite out of date info-wise and similarly full of opinnnioonns backed up with nothing and that really irks me. It does a great job of describing growing up in Minneapolis during the 80's though.

Haven't read Possessed or Pop Life unfortunately, some day i'll track down affordable copies.



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Reply #52 posted 10/23/16 9:26pm

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purplethunder3121 said:



Morningstarlet said:


gandorb said:

You guys sold me on the Per DSMR book, burt was stunned to find the price of it on Amazon and no listing of it on EBAY. If I am reading it right, most used copies that are just in "good condition" with some markings are selling over $400. Surely that can't be true. Any ideas where I might find a copy for more resaonble?



Yep, the same with Possessed which in some cases is going for $1000.00. I got it from the library instead.

eek The one I have has a price tag of $9.99.



I assume this means you got it while it was in print. If so, kudos to you. If not, please tell?
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Reply #53 posted 10/23/16 9:33pm

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gandorb said:

purplethunder3121 said:

eek The one I have has a price tag of $9.99.

I assume this means you got it while it was in print. If so, kudos to you. If not, please tell?

I bought t at a used book store a few years ago along with a Springsteen bio that was also 10 bucks. razz

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