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Thread started 08/22/16 4:02pm

destinyc1

Dr.Drew Speaks About Prince (HLN)

Should be interesting.Coming up next segment

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Reply #1 posted 08/22/16 4:09pm

destinyc1

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Reply #2 posted 08/22/16 4:09pm

fanoftheman

destinyc1 said:

Should be interesting.Coming up next segment

Keep us informed I find Dr Drew interesting.

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Reply #3 posted 08/22/16 4:14pm

destinyc1

K... I'm interested to hear his spin on everything.

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Reply #4 posted 08/22/16 4:32pm

lwr001

Quote, I don't know why they are saying fentynal wasn't in his system days prior as that can't be detected by regular tox screens shrugs. Further. It doesn't matter if it was laced with fentynal, what mattered was he was power popping pills.
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Reply #5 posted 08/22/16 4:53pm

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lwr001 said:

Quote, I don't know why they are saying fentynal wasn't in his system days prior as that can't be detected by regular tox screens shrugs. Further. It doesn't matter if it was laced with fentynal, what mattered was he was power popping pills.

--Please go back and read the original story they used test he did with Dr S the before as well as the ME test and I am guessing hair samples which can show drugs from 90 days out. The ME would not have said accidental if they did not have the proof.
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Reply #6 posted 08/22/16 4:55pm

lwr001

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said:
Quote, I don't know why they are saying fentynal wasn't in his system days prior as that can't be detected by regular tox screens shrugs. Further. It doesn't matter if it was laced with fentynal, what mattered was he was power popping pills.
--Please go back and read the original story they used test he did with Dr S the before as well as the ME test and I am guessing hair samples which can show drugs from 90 days out. The ME would not have said accidental if they did not have the proof.

i am saying what dr drew just said.these arent my words

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Reply #7 posted 08/22/16 4:56pm

lwr001

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said:
Quote, I don't know why they are saying fentynal wasn't in his system days prior as that can't be detected by regular tox screens shrugs. Further. It doesn't matter if it was laced with fentynal, what mattered was he was power popping pills.
--Please go back and read the original story they used test he did with Dr S the before as well as the ME test and I am guessing hair samples which can show drugs from 90 days out. The ME would not have said accidental if they did not have the proof.

anytime someone OD"s its accidental unless they have proof that the prson took a whole bottle so your point is what

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Reply #8 posted 08/22/16 4:59pm

LoriJ

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lwr001 said:

Quote, I don't know why they are saying fentynal wasn't in his system days prior as that can't be detected by regular tox screens shrugs. Further. It doesn't matter if it was laced with fentynal, what mattered was he was power popping pills.

What matters is the pills were mismarked, and he did not ntentionally take the fentanyl which caused his death. As Mark (the atty.) said. It doesn't matter if your his doctor, member of his staff, friend etc and you supplied the drugs, you better find a good defense attorney,because you could be held responsible for his death.

Dr Drew even felt if the Dr prescribed Xanax knowing about the other drugs he was taking, he too caused his death.

I love you baby, just not like I love this guitar.~Prince~
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Reply #9 posted 08/22/16 5:00pm

LoriJ

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lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said: --Please go back and read the original story they used test he did with Dr S the before as well as the ME test and I am guessing hair samples which can show drugs from 90 days out. The ME would not have said accidental if they did not have the proof.

i am saying what dr drew just said.these arent my words

Yes, he said it doesn't show up in a urine test.

I love you baby, just not like I love this guitar.~Prince~
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Reply #10 posted 08/22/16 5:02pm

morningsong

LoriJ said:

lwr001 said:

i am saying what dr drew just said.these arent my words

Yes, he said it doesn't show up in a urine test.




Maybe he had a blood test.

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Reply #11 posted 08/22/16 5:08pm

lwr001

dont shoot the messenger,,

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Reply #12 posted 08/22/16 5:12pm

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Don't watch that media quack. confused

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #13 posted 08/22/16 5:14pm

morningsong

What messenger? I see no one here bringing news or information.


Maybe it was a series of test?


Maybe the sheriff, procured the samples the Dr. took and had their test in their own labs since they had the physical evidence?


Maybe the DEA with better lab access had them run their own test?


There are too many possibilities just for anybody to be so narrow minded.

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Reply #14 posted 08/22/16 5:17pm

morningsong

lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said: --Please go back and read the original story they used test he did with Dr S the before as well as the ME test and I am guessing hair samples which can show drugs from 90 days out. The ME would not have said accidental if they did not have the proof.

anytime someone OD"s its accidental unless they have proof that the prson took a whole bottle so your point is what



Not true.


There are many sites that'll take the layman through the procedures MEs go through to make determinations of whether something is a suicide or accidental. This is their everyday job so they go through this quite often.






[Edited 8/22/16 17:18pm]

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Reply #15 posted 08/22/16 7:01pm

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lwr001 said:

dont shoot the messenger,,


You are not messenger. Come back when you have finished getting your medical degree since you think you know more than the ME.
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Reply #16 posted 08/22/16 10:18pm

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Could someone please fill in those of us who missed this what dr drew's take is on this latest development?
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #17 posted 08/22/16 10:27pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #18 posted 08/22/16 10:37pm

lwr001

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said:

dont shoot the messenger,,

You are not messenger. Come back when you have finished getting your medical degree since you think you know more than the ME.

wtf ar eyou talking about ,, i repeated what was stated on tv, nothing less nothing less nothing more.. you should also take your own advice ,

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Reply #19 posted 08/22/16 10:48pm

derrick31

lwr001 said:

Quote, I don't know why they are saying fentynal wasn't in his system days prior as that can't be detected by regular tox screens shrugs. Further. It doesn't matter if it was laced with fentynal, what mattered was he was power popping pills.


Well, who's to say he was ever taking Fentanyl. Maybe he OD on something else on the plane.
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Reply #20 posted 08/22/16 10:53pm

lwr001

derrick31 said:

lwr001 said:
Quote, I don't know why they are saying fentynal wasn't in his system days prior as that can't be detected by regular tox screens shrugs. Further. It doesn't matter if it was laced with fentynal, what mattered was he was power popping pills.
Well, who's to say he was ever taking Fentanyl. Maybe he OD on something else on the plane. [Edited 8/22/16 22:51pm]

i didnt say anything about the plane either..However, if thats the case as you state, that makes it worse

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Reply #21 posted 08/22/16 11:21pm

morningsong

All I can do is go by what I read. Nobody wants to share what Drew said, fine. I'll read other sources.
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Reply #22 posted 08/22/16 11:23pm

morningsong

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Fentanyl
Fully synthetic opioids, fentanyl and related compounds, are not detected by commercial morphine- or oxycodone-specific opiate immunoassays [58]. Misuse and abuse of fentanyl with fatal consequences has increased in the past decade. Sources of fentanyl include diversion of pharmaceutical grade material, clandestine laboratories, and sustained-release, transdermal patches [59]. Cases of toxicity following ingestion of whole trans-dermal patches have even been reported [60]. Since fentanyl is an important prescription opioid with documented abuse potential, detection of this drug in urine screening is highly desirable. Although not routinely applied in many standard urine drug-testing panels, fentanyl-specific immunoassays have been developed [27, 61, 62]. A number of other analytical methods including gas chromatography–mass spectroscopy (GC-MS) [63–66] and LC-MS have also been described [67–70]. Some of these methods also include detection of fentanyl-like compounds in addition to fentanyl [32].
Laboratory Testing for Prescription Opioids
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[32].

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g...MC3550258/ " target="_blank"> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g...MC3550258/
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Reply #23 posted 08/23/16 2:45am

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lwr001 said:



laurarichardson said:


lwr001 said:

dont shoot the messenger,,



You are not messenger. Come back when you have finished getting your medical degree since you think you know more than the ME.

wtf ar eyou talking about ,, i repeated what was stated on tv, nothing less nothing less nothing more.. you should also take your own advice ,


--- You keep saying how do they know he was a not a long term user of Fentanyl. It is called test. Do you not even remember what you are typing.
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Reply #24 posted 08/23/16 3:13am

alandail

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said:

wtf ar eyou talking about ,, i repeated what was stated on tv, nothing less nothing less nothing more.. you should also take your own advice ,

--- You keep saying how do they know he was a not a long term user of Fentanyl. It is called test. Do you not even remember what you are typing.

lwr001 simply quoted dr. drew - that's why it says "Quote" at the beginning of the post

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Reply #25 posted 08/23/16 3:20am

fortuneandsere
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laurarichardson knows better than Dr Drew, apparently.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #26 posted 08/23/16 6:07am

destinyc1

LAURA,That is what dr drew said..... He just relayed what was said.Everyone needs to stop trying to outshine everyone and stop jumping on everyone thats what ran good org members off.Ok here are bits and pieces because it was mostly dr. speak......SARA SIDNER i guess is a reporter She said there were other things in prince's system.Dr drew said Fentanyl isn't detected in a reg screening other test had to of been done.Also that fentanyl would of caused him sleeplessness and major anxiety.Then something about a linecain sp patch and high levels of aprasalam sp sorry these meds are hard to remember let alone spell.Dr drew said he needs to know how it was ingested to get the full story.He said ALL drug overdoses are just that unless /or suicide.He said its cheaper to mix a small amount of fentanyl into other pills and that it gives a greater high.Then dr drew said prince needed TEAM CONTAINMENT NOT (SPECIAL CARE) which is code for celebs and their special dr's cool Also that many drug addicts are dying like this (said a guest)Dr drew said some levels have dropped off.Then dr drew said what about charges.Guest Mark Eiglarsh said because of it being 100% POTENT someone is looking at serious charges.(DR HOMETOWN) OR DR.CALIFORNIA,OR HIS SON.Then mark an attorney and ambulance chaser said "hey i will defend him.Then someone said something about pill mix ups to blame and dr drew said (it doesn't matter)so not sure what you guys can make of this but,this is how it was laid out.Oh and as the show started it went from a timeline of apr 21-may of dr drews thoughts.Because he was trying to prove that usually when someone dies of an overdose certain things are found that go hand in hand.So in other words he is saying that abusers of meds have a certain pattern .I remember he spoke about this on his rehab show with layne staleys mom.

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Reply #27 posted 08/23/16 6:22am

destinyc1

http://www.billboard.com/...pain-pills Article on what could happen to anyone thats involved.

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Reply #28 posted 08/23/16 6:29am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson knows better than Dr Drew, apparently.

No, I would go with what the Medical Exeminer has to say then a doctor who never examined Prince and was not involved in the autosy. You let me know if this is irrational.

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Reply #29 posted 08/23/16 6:32am

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alandail said:

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said: --- You keep saying how do they know he was a not a long term user of Fentanyl. It is called test. Do you not even remember what you are typing.

lwr001 simply quoted dr. drew - that's why it says "Quote" at the beginning of the post

But Dr. Drew has not taken the time to find out what is going on before he got on T .V talking crap.

We all know from the articles and coverage bearing in mind that it is all from unknown sources but it was picked up by the wire services.

Why are there people on this board doubting the Medical Examiner and the test that P had prior to his death? Don't spend so much time attacking me and think about why anyone (Dr. Drew )included is discounting the evidence that was there for the ME to come up the reason for his death.

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