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[Edited 8/25/16 18:52pm] Agreed. I see a lot of people on Twitter are excited about it. I think it will be better for the die hard fans because by the time they're emotionally ready to go the tour will probably be better and have more stuff he was working on completed. Paisley Park is in your heart
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First of all the man is not dead 6 months and they are already sending people trampling around his house. That's the first sign of the lack of thinking and lack of respect.
Secondly and more importantly, they actually think that this little scheme is sustainable? Out of their minds. You better go as soon as it opens, because this hair brained lil'Rascals show will be shut down in less than 6 months. If anyone of you has ever went to a real museum in any major metropolitan area with major world artists, you see they need major endowments, charity events, donations by wealthy patrons and city subsidies to keep them going. How is this, in the middle of nowhere going to be sustainable? Insanity. They are just vultures, hyenas, and rats rushing to pick the bones of this great artist as soon as he passed. Like they couldn't wait. [Edited 8/25/16 21:50pm] | |
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Ingela said: First of all the man is not dead 6 months and they are already sending people trampling around his house. That's the first sign of the lack of thinking and lack of respect. Secondly and more importantly, they actually think that this little scheme is sustainable? Out of their minds. You better go as soon as it opens, because this hair brained lil'Rascals show will be shut down in less than 6 months. If anyone of you ever went to a real museum in any major metropolitan area with major world artists need endowments to keep them going, how is this, in the middle of nowhere going to be sustainable? Insanity. They are just vultures, hyenas, and rats rushing to pick the bones of this great artist as soon as he passed. Like they couldn't wait. How does Graceland survive? The same people running that are running this. Btw, Chanhassen isn't in the middle of nowhere. It's 30 minutes from Minneapolis. I remember people said the Mall of America wouldn't survive either. ;-) Even those that agree they're opening it too soon have said Prince was working on this and wanted it to happen. Anyway if only the man had a will or some other document clearly stating what his wishes were and what he wanted to happen after he was gone. Sigh. If we want to talk about vultures let's talk about politicians and the stupid tax code that has to take a huge portion of your estate when you die. How twisted is that? Paisley Park is in your heart
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rogifan said: Ingela said: First of all the man is not dead 6 months and they are already sending people trampling around his house. That's the first sign of the lack of thinking and lack of respect. Secondly and more importantly, they actually think that this little scheme is sustainable? Out of their minds. You better go as soon as it opens, because this hair brained lil'Rascals show will be shut down in less than 6 months. If anyone of you ever went to a real museum in any major metropolitan area with major world artists need endowments to keep them going, how is this, in the middle of nowhere going to be sustainable? Insanity. They are just vultures, hyenas, and rats rushing to pick the bones of this great artist as soon as he passed. Like they couldn't wait. How does Graceland survive? The same people running that are running this. Btw, Chanhassen isn't in the middle of nowhere. It's 30 minutes from Minneapolis. I remember people said the Mall of America wouldn't survive either. ;-) Even those that agree they're opening it too soon have said Prince was working on this and wanted it to happen. Anyway if only the man had a will or some other document clearly stating what his wishes were and what he wanted to happen after he was gone. Sigh. If we want to talk about vultures let's talk about politicians and the stupid tax code that has to take a huge portion of your estate when you die. How twisted is that? We'll see. But it won't end well. Which makes this all the more heartbreaking. Anyone can see see this from thousands of miles away. | |
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Has anyone got any "additional info" for the PP tour tickets website? Just wondreing. I guess they will just send it tomorrow at some point? Ugh all this waiting and not knowing. "Put on your boots Alfred...let's go!" | |
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Right. I refuse to support his family and business team. They will never get a dime from me. EVER. And I am not the only one feels that way. The family should worry about eventually explaining to the public why they continue to sit back and letting the media label Prince as a drug addict instead of telling people what actually happened on April 21 rather than chasing dollars. Privacy is one thing but trying to cover up for the disguised of perserving legacy due to out of shame is downright mess up. have any of them even mention about any of Prince's after death profits going to charities he supported? It is like all they care about money, money, money. Damn I wish Prince left a will.
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Right. I refuse to support his family and business team. They will never get a dime from me. EVER. And I am not the only one feels that way. The family should worry about eventually explaining to the public why they continue to sit back and letting the media label Prince as a drug addict instead of telling people what actually happened on April 21 rather than chasing dollars. Privacy is one thing but trying to cover up for the disguised of perserving legacy due to out of shame is downright mess up. have any of them even mention about any of Prince's after death profits going to charities he supported? It is like all they care about money, money, money. Damn I wish Prince left a will.
The worst part for me, is when this hair brained scheme fails, the will blame Prince. The media will jump on a narrative that not enough people cares about him and his legacy to keep it open. They will further tarnish the man's legacy. | |
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lol, seriously??
i would like to see the atrium. i'm interested to feel how the energy is there now compared being there last year. the timing seems good -- a week before the tribute for the locals to see it first, then a chance for worldwide fans to experience it the next week. i hope to get a ticket for oct. and hopefully visit again next year when its more complete
i had had a disturbing dream (in march ) that some company was holding events at paisley park but it was unclear if they were respecting the vegetarian/alcohol rules, so i was glad to read that they will continue Prince's rules.
I think it would be cool to continue the absence of cell phones, though that may have been mainly so Prince could feel more safe from having his own photo taken by strangers.
shuttles from the airport sounds really cool. lots to look forward to! flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup | |
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Ingela said: rogifan said: How does Graceland survive? The same people running that are running this. Btw, Chanhassen isn't in the middle of nowhere. It's 30 minutes from Minneapolis. I remember people said the Mall of America wouldn't survive either. ;-) Even those that agree they're opening it too soon have said Prince was working on this and wanted it to happen. Anyway if only the man had a will or some other document clearly stating what his wishes were and what he wanted to happen after he was gone. Sigh. If we want to talk about vultures let's talk about politicians and the stupid tax code that has to take a huge portion of your estate when you die. How twisted is that? We'll see. But it won't end well. Which makes this all the more heartbreaking. Anyone can see see this from thousands of miles away. Even the mayor? It will be pretty embarrassing for him and the city if this thing is over in 6 months. If Sheila E feels really strongly about it maybe she needs to get her behind to Minnesota to try and stop it. Maybe people on the org who feel strongly about it need to contact the mayors office or Bremer to try and get it stopped/delayed. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Ingela said: The worst part for me, is when this hair brained scheme fails, the will blame Prince. The media will jump on a narrative that not enough people cares about him and his legacy to keep it open. They will further tarnish the man's legacy. Is your concern that this is being done too soon or being done at all? Dr Funkenberry says this is something Prince was working on. Once again if the man had left a will or some instructions for what his wishes were after he was gone. Who's going to go through the vault and decide what's suitable to be released and not? I'm assuming he didn't say who he wanted doing that. When he was on The View he said he won't be releasing it but someone will be. Well who is that someone? Sigh. π Paisley Park is in your heart
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This can't be serious. Must be just to get this open, but you can't run a museum for a longer period based on these few pages? | |
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Ingela said: The worst part for me, is when this hair brained scheme fails, the will blame Prince. The media will jump on a narrative that not enough people cares about him and his legacy to keep it open. They will further tarnish the man's legacy. Is your concern that this is being done too soon or being done at all? Dr Funkenberry says this is something Prince was working on. Once again if the man had left a will or some instructions for what his wishes were after he was gone. Who's going to go through the vault and decide what's suitable to be released and not? I'm assuming he didn't say who he wanted doing that. When he was on The View he said he won't be releasing it but someone will be. Well who is that someone? Sigh. π Paisley Park is in your heart
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This can't be serious. Must be just to get this open, but you can't run a museum for a longer period based on these few pages? I'm assuming this is what they presented the city? I've never been to Graceland and don't know how it works all I've heard is the people running it do a really good job. Graceland gets about 600,000 people per year. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Ingela said: rogifan said: How does Graceland survive? The same people running that are running this. Btw, Chanhassen isn't in the middle of nowhere. It's 30 minutes from Minneapolis. I remember people said the Mall of America wouldn't survive either. ;-) Even those that agree they're opening it too soon have said Prince was working on this and wanted it to happen. Anyway if only the man had a will or some other document clearly stating what his wishes were and what he wanted to happen after he was gone. Sigh. If we want to talk about vultures let's talk about politicians and the stupid tax code that has to take a huge portion of your estate when you die. How twisted is that? We'll see. But it won't end well. Which makes this all the more heartbreaking. Anyone can see see this from thousands of miles away. /-How is Graceland still around? How is the family suppose to pay the property tax and upkeep of the building. Once they receive there disbursements why would they use it to keep a building that is sitting unused? They say they are going to open the studios for commercial use and concerts and events so they do have a business plan and competent people running it. This is business and you can not be sentimental or emotional. | |
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looking at comments in genreral across social media it seems that there are 2 firm camps..those that are happy for this to be happening as a way of healing & those that feel its just too soon. I was lucky enough to go to the very 1st one & it was perfectly run, the tour was great..& I mean really great..well organised, highly informative, extensive & interactive [i played on the drum machine!!] For me it's just too soon...i'll be heartbroken to visit it...above all else simply the thought of seeing the place where he died is too much. I'll assume the elevator he passed away in is out of public sight? For now the memory of that 1st visit remains strong & beautiful.
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Ingela said: First of all the man is not dead 6 months and they are already sending people trampling around his house. That's the first sign of the lack of thinking and lack of respect. Secondly and more importantly, they actually think that this little scheme is sustainable? Out of their minds. You better go as soon as it opens, because this hair brained lil'Rascals show will be shut down in less than 6 months. If anyone of you has ever went to a real museum in any major metropolitan area with major world artists, you see they need major endowments, charity events, donations by wealthy patrons and city subsidies to keep them going. How is this, in the middle of nowhere going to be sustainable? Insanity. They are just vultures, hyenas, and rats rushing to pick the bones of this great artist as soon as he passed. Like they couldn't wait. [Edited 8/25/16 21:50pm] Even while Prince was alive PP was a business. Nobody will be tramping through his personal space there. The elevator will probably be removed or closed off. That place needs money to survive. Or would you rather it was sold? Baby, you're a star.
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BillieBalloon said: Ingela said: First of all the man is not dead 6 months and they are already sending people trampling around his house. That's the first sign of the lack of thinking and lack of respect. Secondly and more importantly, they actually think that this little scheme is sustainable? Out of their minds. You better go as soon as it opens, because this hair brained lil'Rascals show will be shut down in less than 6 months. If anyone of you has ever went to a real museum in any major metropolitan area with major world artists, you see they need major endowments, charity events, donations by wealthy patrons and city subsidies to keep them going. How is this, in the middle of nowhere going to be sustainable? Insanity. They are just vultures, hyenas, and rats rushing to pick the bones of this great artist as soon as he passed. Like they couldn't wait. [Edited 8/25/16 21:50pm] Even while Prince was alive PP was a business. Nobody will be tramping through his personal space there. The elevator will probably be removed or closed off. That place needs money to survive. Or would you rather it was sold? That doesn't change the fact that it's not sustainable. All it means it is it will be shut down and sold and blame Prince and his fan base for it closing. The state of Minnesota will eventually decide if they want to preserve it or not. | |
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This is what worries me too - I have a bad feeling that after the hype people wont travel there as it sounds like it is out of the way? He has international fams and many of us may never get there, so if most of the foot traffic there is mostly Americans I wonder how many times people would keep going back seeing it not in a high tourist area? Thank you Prince for every note you left behind π | |
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Ingela said: BillieBalloon said: Even while Prince was alive PP was a business. Nobody will be tramping through his personal space there. The elevator will probably be removed or closed off. That place needs money to survive. Or would you rather it was sold? That doesn't change the fact that it's not sustainable. All it means it is it will be shut down and sold and blame Prince and his fan base for it closing. The state of Minnesota will eventually decide if they want to preserve it or not. We'll see. I could definitely see the state stepping in. Not a lot of celebrities in Minnesota. Paisley Park is in your heart
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This is what worries me too - I have a bad feeling that after the hype people wont travel there as it sounds like it is out of the way? He has international fams and many of us may never get there, so if most of the foot traffic there is mostly Americans I wonder how many times people would keep going back seeing it not in a high tourist area? People then ask "what about the family? They need the money!" Well that's a different story too. Most times the family donates the property or creates an endowment to preserve it. It's done out of love. I've been to Hearst Castle in California, and the family eventually had to donate it to the state to keep it open. And that's right off the beautiful Pacific Coast Highway where there is a constant flow of traffic. And most major museums are either care of the super wealthy collector's personal collection funded by collector himself, or by a major metropolitan city. Prince is an important artist. But he was never truly a mainstream artist, especially at his peak. He was always controversial. Like most important artists are. The family would have to do some soul searching besides money searching if they really cared about Paisley Park. | |
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I am in the "too soon" camp. I realize they want the place open prior to the tribute concert, and that they want money, but they haven't even set up two sides of the house: one for profit, one for non-profit (for example, an arts academy for k-12). It would seem smarter to me to open it for about half the year, when the weather is reasonable. Who is going to trek to Chanhassen in the middle of winter? Restrict access, fine tune the process, then open again in April.
I keep going back to what Tyka said: Prince was working on this at the time of his death. Why? He was only 57. Or did he know he needed to do this now, due to health concerns? If he was planning a museum, where in the h--- is the will? It so sounds, to me, like he was getting his affairs in order. Bought the Purple Rain house, paid his bills, started the memoir, etc.
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Genesia said:
Why would the state decide? When it all goes wrong who do you turn to with money to possibly preserve it? We'll see but my ass seems to have a hell of a lot more acumen than your face. | |
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lol whatever. I would love for me to be wrong and optimists like you right. I just don't see it. [Edited 8/26/16 8:21am] | |
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Is anyone suprized that we havent got any info on PP tour tickets? It's getting close to the time! "Put on your boots Alfred...let's go!" | |
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Whether we think it's too soon or not, the tax man is coming and he doesn't take IOUs. Prince has always planned for Paisley Park to become a museum and center for musical arts. That was intention from the moment he started building it and why he saved everything there. If there wasn't the tax pressures, I would probably feel it's too soon as well. However, the choice his family faces is open it now and try to get some revenue going to pay that tax bill or wait and possibly lose PP forever. That would break a lot more hearts than opening it too soon has. I can't bear that thought so I'll gladly give them the money for my tour. I'll probably be crying the whole time but I find a little solace in knowing that my admission will help keep it as a museum and musical center (or maybe not but at least they tried). | |
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