I hope your not being attacked.Your points are valid....This was just reporting on what was said by dr drew not that one believes him or not......As far as the M.E. MEDICAL EXAMINER goes he isn't saying anything....But,i remember something spread in may and he came out and denied it quick.With this not so much at least not yet anyway.I dont think any of us should be trying so hard to convince each other of anything really.

destinyc1 said:

LAURA,That is what dr drew said..... He just relayed what was said.Everyone needs to stop trying to outshine everyone and stop jumping on everyone thats what ran good org members off.Ok here are bits and pieces because it was mostly dr. speak......SARA SIDNER i guess is a reporter She said there were other things in prince's system.Dr drew said Fentanyl isn't detected in a reg screening other test had to of been done.Also that fentanyl would of caused him sleeplessness and major anxiety.Then something about a linecain sp patch and high levels of aprasalam sp sorry these meds are hard to remember let alone spell.Dr drew said he needs to know how it was ingested to get the full story.He said ALL drug overdoses are just that unless /or suicide.He said its cheaper to mix a small amount of fentanyl into other pills and that it gives a greater high.Then dr drew said prince needed TEAM CONTAINMENT NOT (SPECIAL CARE) which is code for celebs and their special dr's Also that many drug addicts are dying like this (said a guest)Dr drew said some levels have dropped off.Then dr drew said what about charges.Guest Mark Eiglarsh said because of it being 100% POTENT someone is looking at serious charges.(DR HOMETOWN) OR DR.CALIFORNIA,OR HIS SON.Then mark an attorney and ambulance chaser said "hey i will defend him.Then someone said something about pill mix ups to blame and dr drew said (it doesn't matter)so not sure what you guys can make of this but,this is how it was laid out.Oh and as the show started it went from a timeline of apr 21-may of dr drews thoughts.Because he was trying to prove that usually when someone dies of an overdose certain things are found that go hand in hand.So in other words he is saying that abusers of meds have a certain pattern .I remember he spoke about this on his rehab show with layne staleys mom.

This is not about trying to outshine anyone.

Dr drew said Fentanyl isn't detected in a reg screening other test had to of been done.

Other test were done by the ME. They can tell if he was a long term user of this stuff from test the ME ran.

Also that fentanyl would of caused him sleeplessness and major anxiety.

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Numerous people have said Prince almost never sleep.

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Then something about a linecain sp patch and high levels of aprasalam sp sorry these meds are hard to remember let alone spell.

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The autopsy report said he had no marks on him and it appears all they found was pills.

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Dr drew said he needs to know how it was ingested to get the full story.He said ALL drug overdoses are just that unless /or suicide.

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The ME is saying it was ingested from the pills and how are all drug overdoses the same if the victim was taking something that was marked wrong.

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He said its cheaper to mix a small amount of fentanyl into other pills and that it gives a greater high.

They are saying the pills had a high amount of Fentanyl in them not a small amount. Enough to have killed Prince no matter what his weight.

Then dr drew said prince needed TEAM CONTAINMENT NOT (SPECIAL CARE) which is code for celebs and their special dr's.

Well he was suppose to go to rehab the next day.

I am sorry Dr. Drew did not prepare for this broadcast because he appears to have none of the information that is out there or just wants to ingnore what the ME has stated and if there is a criminal case the case will be based on what the ME has to say. Seems like he is about ratings and sensationalism. Damm even TMZ is stating whoever gave him those pills can go down for third degree murder.

destinyc1 said:

I hope your not being attacked.Your points are valid....This was just reporting on what was said by dr drew not that one believes him or not......As far as the M.E. MEDICAL EXAMINER goes he isn't saying anything....But,i remember something spread in may and he came out and denied it quick.With this not so much at least not yet anyway.I dont think any of us should be trying so hard to convince each other of anything really.

The medical examiner put out a report that said it was an accidental overdose. In addtion, there is a full report the public has not seen. I am sure the police are using it as a part of their investigation.

They are building their investigation around the ME report.

From my understanding the police was the leak

destinyc1 said:

From my understanding the police was the leak

If they hit a break wall in the case they might be leaking to get people scared and talking. Maybe it will work the Carver County Sheriff is saying they have one detective working it part time. Leaving me to think that cannot find out where the meds came from.

Sooner or later they will close the case and someone will get away with this. I wish the Star Tribune was interested in the case as much as they are about how much money P had 10 years ago or what happened in his divorce.

I really think we will never find out where he got those pills.

An official close to the investigation told The Associated Press on Sunday that some of the pills found at Paisley Park were falsely labeled as a common generic painkiller similar to Vicodin, but actually contained fentanyl. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, also said that records show Prince did not have a prescription for any controlled substances in Minnesota in the last 12 months. The only way to get fentanyl — a synthetic opioid that is 50 times more powerful than heroin — is through a legal prescription, or illegally from the black market, said Joe Tamburino, a Minnesota defense attorney. Prince's Family Holds Private Service for Late Singer "When you have weird stamped pills in aspirin bottles, sometimes things are what they seem, which is illegally obtained controlled substances," Tamburino said. "How he got them? Who knows."

laurarichardson said:

destinyc1 said:

From my understanding the police was the leak

If they hit a break wall in the case they might be leaking to get people scared and talking. Maybe it will work the Carver County Sheriff is saying they have one detective working it part time. Leaving me to think that cannot find out where the meds came from.

Sooner or later they will close the case and someone will get away with this. I wish the Star Tribune was interested in the case as much as they are about how much money P had 10 years ago or what happened in his divorce.

I really think we will never find out where he got those pills.

who cares how he got them, if he wasnt doing shady shot to obtain vics, percs and xanax,all controlled substances, we wouldnt be here..period

Dr. Drew is a TV hack who should keep his mouth shut, especially when he doesn't have all the facts.

destinyc1 said:

An official close to the investigation told The Associated Press on Sunday that some of the pills found at Paisley Park were falsely labeled as a common generic painkiller similar to Vicodin, but actually contained fentanyl. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, also said that records show Prince did not have a prescription for any controlled substances in Minnesota in the last 12 months. The only way to get fentanyl — a synthetic opioid that is 50 times more powerful than heroin — is through a legal prescription, or illegally from the black market, said Joe Tamburino, a Minnesota defense attorney. Prince's Family Holds Private Service for Late Singer "When you have weird stamped pills in aspirin bottles, sometimes things are what they seem, which is illegally obtained controlled substances," Tamburino said. "How he got them? Who knows."

controlled substances in Minnesota in the last 12 months.

I think this may be wrong since information from the serch warrent said he had Rxs written by Dr. S the day before he died that were not pain pills and that those were the only Rxs he fi The most recent articles are saying he anti-seziure meds and anti-anxiety meds in his system. I doubt people are selling anti-seziure meds on the street corner and he said he had seizure as a child.

I love how this defense attorney of all people is stating the obvious. We all know he did not get the pills from a pharmacy but that does not let who got them for him or the manufactures off the hook.

lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

If they hit a break wall in the case they might be leaking to get people scared and talking. Maybe it will work the Carver County Sheriff is saying they have one detective working it part time. Leaving me to think that cannot find out where the meds came from.

Sooner or later they will close the case and someone will get away with this. I wish the Star Tribune was interested in the case as much as they are about how much money P had 10 years ago or what happened in his divorce.

I really think we will never find out where he got those pills.

who cares how he got them, if he wasnt doing shady shot to obtain vics, percs and xanax,all controlled substances, we wouldnt be here..period

You know why don't you just say you think he was a disgusting junky and get off this board.

We would all be on this board if Prince were alive and well. No one thinks less of him but you for dealing with pain and obviously other medical issues they way he wanted to deal with them.

He was working right up and until the end so he was not some junky sitting in the basement getting high for grins and giggles. I believe as time goes on we are going to find out more about his joint pain, seizures and possible other medical issues. We are going to find out how long he was dealing with this stuff and just how much pain he might have been in. Because I will tell you I have no tolerence for pain and I had to take pills to prevent myself from living in the streets so be it. At the end of the day Prince was not selling dope to kids on the corner he medicating himself and obviously trying to get help to resolve the problem. Your lack of compasion tells me a lot about your character. Prince charitable giving and need to not make a spectle of himself tells me a lot about his character. This shaming is probaly the reason he kept it to himself.

lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said:

who cares how he got them, if he wasnt doing shady shot to obtain vics, percs and xanax,all controlled substances, we wouldnt be here..period

You know why don't you just say you think he was a disgusting junky and get off this board.

We would all be on this board if Prince were alive and well. No one thinks less of him but you for dealing with pain and obviously other medical issues they way he wanted to deal with them.

He was working right up and until the end so he was not some junky sitting in the basement getting high for grins and giggles. I believe as time goes on we are going to find out more about his joint pain, seizures and possible other medical issues. We are going to find out how long he was dealing with this stuff and just how much pain he might have been in. Because I will tell you I have no tolerence for pain and I had to take pills to prevent myself from living in the streets so be it. At the end of the day Prince was not selling dope to kids on the corner he medicating himself and obviously trying to get help to resolve the problem. Your lack of compasion tells me a lot about your character. Prince charitable giving and need to not make a spectle of himself tells me a lot about his character. This shaming is probaly the reason he kept it to himself.

Im not going tyo say that, however, your insistance that its not even remotely possible is what gets me..You call his handlers enablers yet by your very actions coming up with excuse after excuse to explain away things that dont portray him , a mere human ,. in any light other than the unrealistic one in which you hold him inis the text biook version of enabling.

Not shaming at all,, just not ignoring the obvious

laurarichardson said:

lwr001 said:

who cares how he got them, if he wasnt doing shady shot to obtain vics, percs and xanax,all controlled substances, we wouldnt be here..period

You know why don't you just say you think he was a disgusting junky and get off this board.

We would all be on this board if Prince were alive and well. No one thinks less of him but you for dealing with pain and obviously other medical issues they way he wanted to deal with them.

He was working right up and until the end so he was not some junky sitting in the basement getting high for grins and giggles. I believe as time goes on we are going to find out more about his joint pain, seizures and possible other medical issues. We are going to find out how long he was dealing with this stuff and just how much pain he might have been in. Because I will tell you I have no tolerence for pain and I had to take pills to prevent myself from living in the streets so be it. At the end of the day Prince was not selling dope to kids on the corner he medicating himself and obviously trying to get help to resolve the problem. Your lack of compasion tells me a lot about your character. Prince charitable giving and need to not make a spectle of himself tells me a lot about his character. This shaming is probaly the reason he kept it to himself.

Quote, he was working right up to the end, your words are called minimizing..Excusing behavior because , what? he generating revenue..

lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

If they hit a break wall in the case they might be leaking to get people scared and talking. Maybe it will work the Carver County Sheriff is saying they have one detective working it part time. Leaving me to think that cannot find out where the meds came from.

Sooner or later they will close the case and someone will get away with this. I wish the Star Tribune was interested in the case as much as they are about how much money P had 10 years ago or what happened in his divorce.

I really think we will never find out where he got those pills.

who cares how he got them, if he wasnt doing shady shot to obtain vics, percs and xanax,all controlled substances, we wouldnt be here..period

I really have got to take my own sad advice And let it just be about the superstar himself.Because its too many twist and turns.And i dont know what to believe anymore.I dont know about the world of drugs or how things work in that world.But,hardly anyone thinks he accidently mixed up his pills Stamping of pills im told is to also protect the buyer if caught having them in their possession.I'm sure by now they did prints on the pill bottles.Over 4 months no arrests.I'm sure there are things that they can push forward with and prob went to the D.A. about and the D.A. PROB said No or bring me more evidence.This seems to only be falling on his lap sadly HOPE IM WRONG

destinyc1 said:

lwr001 said:

who cares how he got them, if he wasnt doing shady shot to obtain vics, percs and xanax,all controlled substances, we wouldnt be here..period

I really have got to take my own sad advice And let it just be about the superstar himself.Because its too many twist and turns.And i dont know what to believe anymore.I dont know about the world of drugs or how things work in that world.But,hardly anyone thinks he accidently mixed up his pills Stamping of pills im told is to also protect the buyer if caught having them in their possession.I'm sure by now they did prints on the pill bottles.Over 4 months no arrests.I'm sure there are things that they can push forward with and prob went to the D.A. about and the D.A. PROB said No or bring me more evidence.This seems to only be falling on his lap sadly HOPE IM WRONG

and its ok,, drugs are dangerouos, very , very dangerous,, they dont care about your wealth, how talented you are et al...they will eventually destroy it a

destinyc1 said:

http://www.billboard.com/...pain-pills Article on what could happen to anyone thats involved.

Who writes these fucking headlines?

Prince's Counterfeit Pain Pills Likely Came to Him Illegally

Well, no shit, Billboard. Sheesh, I know that all of my counterfeit goods come to me completely by legal means.

Which one of you posted this nonsense in the comments section?

disqus_mY542gpTDo • 10 hours ago

lol thats journalist speak.If they said everything thrown out there they would be fired.remember journalist check and re check their sources

lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

If they hit a break wall in the case they might be leaking to get people scared and talking. Maybe it will work the Carver County Sheriff is saying they have one detective working it part time. Leaving me to think that cannot find out where the meds came from.

Sooner or later they will close the case and someone will get away with this. I wish the Star Tribune was interested in the case as much as they are about how much money P had 10 years ago or what happened in his divorce.

I really think we will never find out where he got those pills.

who cares how he got them, if he wasnt doing shady shot to obtain vics, percs and xanax,all controlled substances, we wouldnt be here..period

Go get a root canal and try to manage it without pain medication then report back to me. People here don't understand addiction OR pain, apparently, and the "just say no'" types are coming off as very, very naive about these issues. Also, my guess is that the police "care how he got them" so there's that also.

herb4 said:

lwr001 said:

who cares how he got them, if he wasnt doing shady shot to obtain vics, percs and xanax,all controlled substances, we wouldnt be here..period

Go get a root canal and try to manage it without pain medication then report back to me. People here don't understand addiction OR pain, apparently, and the "just say no'" types are coming off as very, very naive about these issues. Also, my guess is that the police "care how he got them" so there's that also.

im a fucking combat vet whopsuffered brain injury amongst other things,.,,i know pain meds and addicts and their behavior,,if i have a root canal , my dentist will give me probably 10 vicodin..then im done....

onve again, ole skipper went rogue to get the pills,,if you put yourself in compromising situations, you most likely will be compromised

SheLovesMeNot said:

Dr Drew is about speculation. He doesn't know everything he didn't even know Prince! Prince would never take a drug that would possibly end his life.

yet he did

Thank you for your service.I get it my father suffered from agent orange

lwr001 said:

SheLovesMeNot said:

Dr Drew is about speculation. He doesn't know everything he didn't even know Prince! Prince would never take a drug that would possibly end his life.

yet he did

Because the pills he took were filled with posion and not codine.

lwr001 said:

herb4 said:

Go get a root canal and try to manage it without pain medication then report back to me. People here don't understand addiction OR pain, apparently, and the "just say no'" types are coming off as very, very naive about these issues. Also, my guess is that the police "care how he got them" so there's that also.

im a fucking combat vet whopsuffered brain injury amongst other things,.,,i know pain meds and addicts and their behavior,,if i have a root canal , my dentist will give me probably 10 vicodin..then im done....

onve again, ole skipper went rogue to get the pills,,if you put yourself in compromising situations, you most likely will be compromised

Now we know what is wrong with you. Over and out

ok im going to ask the mods to lock this post or delete it because for me this took another turn.....Maybe im wrong or maybe im overstepping but,in my heart if this helps one person then god bless.And please no one take this wrong......ok on several posts since prince passed there have been a few that have hinted about pill abuse of their own.Lets not let prince die in vain.SUBSTANCE ABUSE HURTS YOU AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU.No matter how you arrived at your pain you dont have to suffer.Look in the mirror and tell yourself ENOUGH i need help.There's no shame in it.These damn pills lead to other situations.I dont want to see another person pass away because of pills.A few years ago on the non prince site.It was bought to our attn about the entire debarge family and what got them there.UNSUNG did a story and then fans reached out to dr drew for the family to get help.They had their back n forths but,the one sister is now thriving.Poor people dont have the means to do 30-90 days in promises or betty ford.You guys see yourself in prince.Please orgnote me im going to contact dr drew's people and try to get you guys some real help.I know many of you hate him.well hate him another time if he can help you please take the help.No matter where you live orgnote me please.Lets see what we can do.

lwr001 said:

herb4 said:

Go get a root canal and try to manage it without pain medication then report back to me. People here don't understand addiction OR pain, apparently, and the "just say no'" types are coming off as very, very naive about these issues. Also, my guess is that the police "care how he got them" so there's that also.

im a fucking combat vet whopsuffered brain injury amongst other things,.,,i know pain meds and addicts and their behavior,,if i have a root canal , my dentist will give me probably 10 vicodin..then im done....

onve again, ole skipper went rogue to get the pills,,if you put yourself in compromising situations, you most likely will be compromised

Not everyone's like you. Glad you're above it all and have no weaknesses though. Good for you but all I hear is "Prince got what he deserved" which is remarkably callous and insensitive. Also ignorant. You feel the same way about your combat buddies with PTSD and chronic pain, depression or addiction issues?

Just ignore .

herb4 said:

lwr001 said:

im a fucking combat vet whopsuffered brain injury amongst other things,.,,i know pain meds and addicts and their behavior,,if i have a root canal , my dentist will give me probably 10 vicodin..then im done....

onve again, ole skipper went rogue to get the pills,,if you put yourself in compromising situations, you most likely will be compromised

Not everyone's like you. Glad you're above it all and have no weaknesses though. Good for you but all I hear is "Prince got what he deserved" which is remarkably callous and insensitive. Also ignorant. You feel the same way about your combat buddies with PTSD and chronic pain, depression or addiction issues?

never said that what i stated was he went rogue,,it happens all the time ...i feel nothing but sadness and sorrow for Prince..I;ve had good friends die in the VA hospital as the pain was so great they sucked on the fentynal patches and od'd right there in their room. what im saying is i get it and i see how it can haoppen as it happens everyday ..his ability to play guitar, piano and his moral and ethical stance against said drugs dont stand a chance to the drugs thjemselves

Yes he was a productive, i too was a very productive sales rep for IBM till i wasnt , i just saying , i get it ..

laurarichardson said:

alandail said:

lwr001 simply quoted dr. drew - that's why it says "Quote" at the beginning of the post

But Dr. Drew has not taken the time to find out what is going on before he got on T .V talking crap.

We all know from the articles and coverage bearing in mind that it is all from unknown sources but it was picked up by the wire services.

Why are there people on this board doubting the Medical Examiner and the test that P had prior to his death? Don't spend so much time attacking me and think about why anyone (Dr. Drew )included is discounting the evidence that was there for the ME to come up the reason for his death.

I didn't attack you at all, I just pointed out that the post you were arguing over was lwr001 quoting Dr. Drew in the "Doctor Drew" thread. lwr001 posting what dr drew said doesn't mean they are supposed to defend Dr. Drew's comments.

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