That's already been analyzed to death, especially the pasta part. http://prince.org/msg/7/423773

I can't even take you seriously with the AIDS stuff. You have no real experience with HIV or AIDS, or you'd have not made those statements. I have friends who have had HIV for decades and aren't on any med cocktail for them. They're healthy, and undetectable viral load in the blood. Even someone with AIDS, instead of HIV can live quite well for a long while.

Prince did not have AIDS, but if you choose to maneuver through life in an illusion, romanticizing his death, then you already have your reward.

And since you mentioned Christ Jesus, even the JW slant of the bible says, in Psalm 69:12, "I am the talk of those sitting in the city gate, and the drunkards make me the subject of their songs." Another translation says, "I am the favorite topic of town gossip, and all the drunks sing about me." I would imagine Prince could easily be saying that if he were to read your post here today.

Looks like Trivial handled it.

To me it's about a relationship that is over and no one wants to be the one to officially end it. He's alone, eating alone, cooking alone and his mind wanders off. Might be simple but I don't see it as a drug reference or a disease reference. I see it as a relationship/death of a relationship reference.

TrivialPursuit said:

That's already been analyzed to death, especially the pasta part. http://prince.org/msg/7/423773

I can't even take you seriously with the AIDS stuff. You have no real experience with HIV or AIDS, or you'd have not made those statements. I have friends who have had HIV for decades and aren't on any med cocktail for them. They're healthy, and undetectable viral load in the blood. Even someone with AIDS, instead of HIV can live quite well for a long while.

Prince did not have AIDS, but if you choose to maneuver through life in an illusion, romanticizing his death, then you already have your reward.

And since you mentioned Christ Jesus, even the JW slant of the bible says, in Psalm 69:12, "I am the talk of those sitting in the city gate, and the drunkards make me the subject of their songs." Another translation says, "I am the favorite topic of town gossip, and all the drunks sing about me." I would imagine Prince could easily be saying that if he were to read your post here today.

That's not Jesus speaking in Psalms.

muleFunk said:

TrivialPursuit said:

That's already been analyzed to death, especially the pasta part. http://prince.org/msg/7/423773

I can't even take you seriously with the AIDS stuff. You have no real experience with HIV or AIDS, or you'd have not made those statements. I have friends who have had HIV for decades and aren't on any med cocktail for them. They're healthy, and undetectable viral load in the blood. Even someone with AIDS, instead of HIV can live quite well for a long while.

Prince did not have AIDS, but if you choose to maneuver through life in an illusion, romanticizing his death, then you already have your reward.

And since you mentioned Christ Jesus, even the JW slant of the bible says, in Psalm 69:12, "I am the talk of those sitting in the city gate, and the drunkards make me the subject of their songs." Another translation says, "I am the favorite topic of town gossip, and all the drunks sing about me." I would imagine Prince could easily be saying that if he were to read your post here today.

That's not Jesus speaking in Psalms.

I understand that. I was bringing the Bible into it in general.

nursev said:

so why can't people ask about this without orgers completely shutting them down?

C'mon girl. We're both smart people.

It was fine until the AIDS thing was brought up. Even the OP said "unfortunately I do" believe it. It is unfortunate that fams delve into some falsehood and purposely believe a lie. That's why I shut them down. If that wasn't brought up, they could have analyzed rotini all damn day, and I wouldn't have said boo about it.

The other side is that people pull up the AIDS thing like it's 1985. In 1985 it was the worst thing you could try to slay someone with and put them down. It was a black mark, a huge insult, and the underlying idea that being gay was just as bad, and AIDS is a dirty disease for gay men. It's still insulting to gay men and ignorant overall. Ryan White wasn't a gay man. He never made it to manhood at all. Neither are the millions of straight women who contract HIV. It's a stereotype, and the OP is waaaaaay off base with their B.S.

TrivialPursuit said:

in regards to "june", you just have to remember what josh said in an interview about
the album: him and prince recorded both "june" and "hardrocklover" in a single night.

i don't think he would've been able to go that low and that personal and then spring
right back and lay down the vocal track for "hardrocklover" -an amazing vocal track
i might ad.

however, we are talking prince here who would lay down basic tracks for 8 songs or
so on a good day. so who knows.

anywho. it's easy to burn pasta, if you make it the italian way and simmer both the
cooked pasta with the sauce in a fryingpan

IstenSzek said:

nursev said:

IstenSzek said:

in regards to "june", you just have to remember what josh said in an interview about
the album: him and prince recorded both "june" and "hardrocklover" in a single night.

i don't think he would've been able to go that low and that personal and then spring
right back and lay down the vocal track for "hardrocklover" -an amazing vocal track
i might ad.

however, we are talking prince here who would lay down basic tracks for 8 songs or
so on a good day. so who knows.

anywho. it's easy to burn pasta, if you make it the italian way and simmer both the
cooked pasta with the sauce in a fryingpan

smart man...just don't even touch the AIDS thing with a 10 foot pole

well, you know, i had a gif lined up, ready to go, but then i thought 'nah, let's not'

here's the gif though:

[img:$uid]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f331/larslimburg/tumblr_inline_nejqigXOJ51reb8lg_zpszxx4eesi.gif[/img:$uid]

oh wait....

IstenSzek said:

i know, right?

IstenSzek said:

nursev said:

IstenSzek said:

i know, right?

the chick in the blue though is just like smiling and saying wtf at the same time

i think that's what the english call 'a shit-eating grin'

IstenSzek said:

nursev said:

IstenSzek said:

i think that's what the english call 'a shit-eating grin'

oh my damn

nursev said:

nursev said:

omg!!! I had to ask...don't hurt me

I would never!

jonnymon said:

"Pasta simmers on the stove in June. Makes no sense yet, but it will soon." Have you ever boiled pasta? Doesn't matter whether a its spaghetti or a box of mac n cheese, it's pretty hard to screw up. Put in the water and wait for the slow boil to work its magic. To this day when I make spaghetti I pull a noodle from the pot, throw it against the wall, if it sticks - it's done. There is one way to screw up your pasta, or at least make one hell of a mess. If you leave your pasta unattended and the heat gets too high, the water will quickly boil over the pot like a volcano and spill into the burner. The smell is horrible. I think this is the perfect metaphor as to what was going on with Prince's health. As much as I don't want to believe the AIDS rumors, I unfortunately do. And I believe his disease was simmering along just fine. Then he stopped his meds and left the disease unattended. Things went bad quick. The disease boiled over. And then it was June, and I think we all understand the significance Prince placed on that song. Between the above possible metaphor, the line: "I'm just here waiting, and waiting..." It's hard for me to believe he was not coming to terms with dying. Fortunately he was a man of faith, and as he clearly stated in "Way Back Home", he doesn't belong here, but in glory with Christ Jesus. I hope no one objects to my thoughts, but it helps to get them out in the open. Peace.

OMG yeah I think your reading way too much into it here.. I got the impression its about his birthday and that hes wanting to be with someone who isnt there and hes thinking about that.. and also that another day is passing and hes getting older.. and also as JWs dont celebrate B'Days he kinda saying it but not directly...

How you get from cooking pasta to stopping AIDS medication? I mean seriously, double you, tee, eff.

Ugh.

I don't believe it but it does annoy me that more wasn't done to shut it down at the time. Or maybe I am not aware of everything that was said against it & missed something. I know Lala spoke out about that rumour & I tend to believe her because I wouldn't be surprised if they were romantic.

I will never believe that he thought God would heal him either or that he'd do anything to jepordise his health like not taking meds.

fanoftheman said:

jonnymon said:

"Pasta simmers on the stove in June. Makes no sense yet, but it will soon." Have you ever boiled pasta? Doesn't matter whether a its spaghetti or a box of mac n cheese, it's pretty hard to screw up. Put in the water and wait for the slow boil to work its magic. To this day when I make spaghetti I pull a noodle from the pot, throw it against the wall, if it sticks - it's done. There is one way to screw up your pasta, or at least make one hell of a mess. If you leave your pasta unattended and the heat gets too high, the water will quickly boil over the pot like a volcano and spill into the burner. The smell is horrible. I think this is the perfect metaphor as to what was going on with Prince's health. As much as I don't want to believe the AIDS rumors, I unfortunately do. And I believe his disease was simmering along just fine. Then he stopped his meds and left the disease unattended. Things went bad quick. The disease boiled over. And then it was June, and I think we all understand the significance Prince placed on that song. Between the above possible metaphor, the line: "I'm just here waiting, and waiting..." It's hard for me to believe he was not coming to terms with dying. Fortunately he was a man of faith, and as he clearly stated in "Way Back Home", he doesn't belong here, but in glory with Christ Jesus. I hope no one objects to my thoughts, but it helps to get them out in the open. Peace.

OMG yeah I think your reading way too much into it here.. I got the impression its about his birthday and that hes wanting to be with someone who isnt there and hes thinking about that.. and also that another day is passing and hes getting older.. and also as JWs dont celebrate B'Days he kinda saying it but not directly...

YES! Someone he is estranged from. He's cooking dinner wondering where the other person is eating and with whom, etc. How they both know it's over but who will be the one to approach the subject. It's a song about broken/dead relationship to me, and about being alone.

LuxLove said:

CROWNS1 said:

It's a song about broken/dead relationship to me, and about being alone.

Yes, the pasta is a metaphor, but there's no reason to think it's about anything more dramatic than P suggests it's about, which is a relationship dying and getting older and feeling lonely and bit sorry for himself. The fact that it sounds way more epic than that is b/c P was a fucking genius who could make heartrending poetry out of burnt pasta...

CROWNS1 said: