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Reply #30 posted 08/18/16 11:37am

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1Sasha said:



nursev said:


And before People come up in here and say were bashing his family...this is just the truth.

I agree with you.



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Reply #31 posted 08/18/16 11:39am

1Sasha

I should add that - when I was listening to the interview with the ST reporters on Minnesota Public Radio - they said the October concert is to benefit the estate to pay the tax(es) due. They did not mention any of the money going to charity.

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Reply #32 posted 08/18/16 11:42am

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1Sasha said:

I should add that - when I was listening to the interview with the ST reporters on Minnesota Public Radio - they said the October concert is to benefit the estate to pay the tax(es) due. They did not mention any of the money going to charity.



Damn...there is the truth.
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Reply #33 posted 08/18/16 11:44am

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Is the estate cash poor? He has all that property - property taxes, certain areas like cities require some sort of upkeep like lawn and weatherization.. Hmm?
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Reply #34 posted 08/18/16 11:45am

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nursev said:

1Sasha said:

I should add that - when I was listening to the interview with the ST reporters on Minnesota Public Radio - they said the October concert is to benefit the estate to pay the tax(es) due. They did not mention any of the money going to charity.



Damn...there is the truth.


We knew that when he died on Thursday autopsies on Friday morning and cremated Friday afternoon Smdh
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Reply #35 posted 08/18/16 11:47am

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ScarLett said:

Is the estate cash poor? He has all that property - property taxes, certain areas like cities require some sort of upkeep like lawn and weatherization.. Hmm?


It's appears that it is
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Reply #36 posted 08/18/16 11:48am

herb4

Let it go. Death brings out the worst in people Money too. In this case we have both.

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Reply #37 posted 08/18/16 11:48am

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ScarLett said:

nursev said:



Damn...there is the truth.


We knew that when he died on Thursday autopsies on Friday morning and cremated Friday afternoon Smdh


Truly sad...not even a proper goodbye. Monday morning...court house
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Reply #38 posted 08/18/16 11:54am

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nursev said:

ScarLett said:



We knew that when he died on Thursday autopsies on Friday morning and cremated Friday afternoon Smdh


Truly sad...not even a proper goodbye. Monday morning...court house


That still remains bizarre - how was Tyka able to make those decisions so suddenly? She to date hasn't been declared an heir (I know I know heir presumptive) but what if a will is found in those vaults or the directive was to keep it hidden until a certain date.. Idk I'm just vocalizing as we all know P had serious game and he loved (head) games.. Take that as u will!! Lol
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Reply #39 posted 08/18/16 12:00pm

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nursev said:

ScarLett said:
Is the estate cash poor? He has all that property - property taxes, certain areas like cities require some sort of upkeep like lawn and weatherization.. Hmm?
It's appears that it is

Rolling Stone said that, at the end of his life, he had an assistant, a groundskeeper and no security at PP. That did not sound right to me, but does anyone know the truth? He did have Kirk, Romeo, Meron (sorry - don't know her proper name - the assistant), and there must have been security of some sort, otherwise fans would be overrunning the place. The lack of an entourage on the plane the previous week may be a clue to his 2016 staff. Various reports after he passed away said his finances were a mess for a long time - years if not over a decade, since the Musicology tour. But he never kept advisors he trusted long enough to keep them straight.

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Reply #40 posted 08/18/16 12:18pm

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Prince's friend was his shadow. That is no more.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #41 posted 08/18/16 12:21pm

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Other than Tyka & 2 a lesser extent Omarr, In 30yrs I haven't heard anything of the other sibs. Alfred was in hospital, said he hadn't spoke 2 P in 15yrs. He came across as a sweetheart with lots of love 4 P. John's kids, I always got the impression P had nothing 2 do with them.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #42 posted 08/18/16 12:23pm

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nursev said:

1Sasha said:

I should add that - when I was listening to the interview with the ST reporters on Minnesota Public Radio - they said the October concert is to benefit the estate to pay the tax(es) due. They did not mention any of the money going to charity.

Damn...there is the truth.

I agree with all of you. This october 'tribute' is not for the fans or his memory. It's to sell tickets. I also think the memorial goodie bags being shown was a sales tactic/preview of the items that will be for sale in October. People are already falling for it, saying they hope they sell them.

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Reply #43 posted 08/18/16 12:28pm

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ScarLett said:

rogifan said:
And we know this how?
He was left alone just days after his collapse - correct as that's the official report - officially people were aware he was battling withdrawal and calls were made .. Yet he was left ALONE .. Friend boss partner u don't leave.. At least that's where my humanity kicks in - u can love me or hate me tomorrow but I'm staying the nite.

This has been the hardest thing to deal with, the fact that he died alone. No one cared enough to spend the night, after all he'd been through the previous week. it's so hard to believe this loving, caring man had no love in his life.

I love you baby, just not like I love this guitar.~Prince~
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Reply #44 posted 08/18/16 12:31pm

nursev

ScarLett said:

nursev said:



Truly sad...not even a proper goodbye. Monday morning...court house


That still remains bizarre - how was Tyka able to make those decisions so suddenly? She to date hasn't been declared an heir (I know I know heir presumptive) but what if a will is found in those vaults or the directive was to keep it hidden until a certain date.. Idk I'm just vocalizing as we all know P had serious game and he loved (head) games.. Take that as u will!! Lol


with her appearing to be his closest sibling I'm sure they talked about it over the years but still you would think that somebody would've at least though about his fans. Some of us really and truly loved Prince as a person and the way all this played out is truly undeserving of someone who brought joy to so many.
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Reply #45 posted 08/18/16 12:32pm

nursev

1Sasha said:



nursev said:


ScarLett said:
Is the estate cash poor? He has all that property - property taxes, certain areas like cities require some sort of upkeep like lawn and weatherization.. Hmm?

It's appears that it is

Rolling Stone said that, at the end of his life, he had an assistant, a groundskeeper and no security at PP. That did not sound right to me, but does anyone know the truth? He did have Kirk, Romeo, Meron (sorry - don't know her proper name - the assistant), and there must have been security of some sort, otherwise fans would be overrunning the place. The lack of an entourage on the plane the previous week may be a clue to his 2016 staff. Various reports after he passed away said his finances were a mess for a long time - years if not over a decade, since the Musicology tour. But he never kept advisors he trusted long enough to keep them straight.


the security thing really bothers me...perhaps having some could've saved his life.
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Reply #46 posted 08/18/16 12:34pm

nursev

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Other than Tyka & 2 a lesser extent Omarr, In 30yrs I haven't heard anything of the other sibs. Alfred was in hospital, said he hadn't spoke 2 P in 15yrs. He came across as a sweetheart with lots of love 4 P. John's kids, I always got the impression P had nothing 2 do with them.


Agreed...I think he took care of them financially but that was it...he had no other dealings with them. it's easy to see that now.
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Reply #47 posted 08/18/16 12:35pm

nursev

LoriJ said:



nursev said:


1Sasha said:

I should add that - when I was listening to the interview with the ST reporters on Minnesota Public Radio - they said the October concert is to benefit the estate to pay the tax(es) due. They did not mention any of the money going to charity.



Damn...there is the truth.


I agree with all of you. This october 'tribute' is not for the fans or his memory. It's to sell tickets. I also think the memorial goodie bags being shown was a sales tactic/preview of the items that will be for sale in October. People are already falling for it, saying they hope they sell them.



Truly sad...I wonder how Prince would've felt about his fans being used and treated this way.
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Reply #48 posted 08/18/16 12:37pm

nursev

If they need to sell merchandise then just tell us that...some of us want them anyway, but to make us pay to attend the memorial then buy the merchandise is just wrong.
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Reply #49 posted 08/18/16 12:39pm

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On the 'Prince's Family and So Called Friends are Pissing me the Hell off!' thread you said:
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nursev said:


> ScarLett said:
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Is the estate cash poor? He has all that property - property taxes, certain areas like cities require some sort of upkeep like lawn and weatherization.. Hmm?

> It's appears that it is

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Rolling Stone said that, at the end of his life, he had an assistant, a groundskeeper and no security at PP. That did not sound right to me, but does anyone know the truth? He did have Kirk, Romeo, Meron (sorry - don't know her proper name - the assistant), and there must have been security of some sort, otherwise fans would be overrunning the place. The lack of an entourage on the plane the previous week may be a clue to his 2016 staff. Various reports after he passed away said his finances were a mess for a long time - years if not over a decade, since the Musicology tour. But he never kept advisors he trusted long enough to keep them straight.



Nope that's all true(or so I have heard)! Security (full detail) only on events - but the staging here is that Romeo was in Texas that week on vacation and he sent everyone else home. Who the hell goes home after making grave emergency calls? I'm taking u to Betty ford!! Why hasn't the estate disclosed how much he made on the short P&M tour? Where are the other 2 vaults? Idk this whole thing is wonky at best - leaving no will made sure essentially his heirs won't get much of nothing as the attorneys get paid first and they are all on retainer
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Reply #50 posted 08/18/16 12:42pm

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Am I ranting? It feels like it - this case is so bass akwards .. To many theories and suppositions and way too many accepting absolute rubbish in place of reason
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Reply #51 posted 08/18/16 12:43pm

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nursev said:

ScarLett said:

Is the estate cash poor? He has all that property - property taxes, certain areas like cities require some sort of upkeep like lawn and weatherization.. Hmm?


It's appears that it is

_No, he was sitting on 50 million in Real Estate and he had royalties from his songs. He may have other investments. People in his income break it are not usually liquid. He was really smart about his Real Estate investments. It looks like he was running a whole another business.
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Reply #52 posted 08/18/16 12:44pm

nursev

ScarLett said:

On the 'Prince's Family and So Called Friends are Pissing me the Hell off!' thread you said:
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nursev said:


> ScarLett said:
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Is the estate cash poor? He has all that property - property taxes, certain areas like cities require some sort of upkeep like lawn and weatherization.. Hmm?

> It's appears that it is

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Rolling Stone said that, at the end of his life, he had an assistant, a groundskeeper and no security at PP. That did not sound right to me, but does anyone know the truth? He did have Kirk, Romeo, Meron (sorry - don't know her proper name - the assistant), and there must have been security of some sort, otherwise fans would be overrunning the place. The lack of an entourage on the plane the previous week may be a clue to his 2016 staff. Various reports after he passed away said his finances were a mess for a long time - years if not over a decade, since the Musicology tour. But he never kept advisors he trusted long enough to keep them straight.



Nope that's all true(or so I have heard)! Security (full detail) only on events - but the staging here is that Romeo was in Texas that week on vacation and he sent everyone else home. Who the hell goes home after making grave emergency calls? I'm taking u to Betty ford!! Why hasn't the estate disclosed how much he made on the short P&M tour? Where are the other 2 vaults? Idk this whole thing is wonky at best - leaving no will made sure essentially his heirs won't get much of nothing as the attorneys get paid first and they are all on retainer


all questions fans will never know any answers too.
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Reply #53 posted 08/18/16 12:45pm

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I wish the OP would modify the thread title to something a bit less harsh.
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Reply #54 posted 08/18/16 12:45pm

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ScarLett said:

On the 'Prince's Family and So Called Friends are Pissing me the Hell off!' thread you said:
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nursev said:


> ScarLett said:
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Is the estate cash poor? He has all that property - property taxes, certain areas like cities require some sort of upkeep like lawn and weatherization.. Hmm?

> It's appears that it is

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Rolling Stone said that, at the end of his life, he had an assistant, a groundskeeper and no security at PP. That did not sound right to me, but does anyone know the truth? He did have Kirk, Romeo, Meron (sorry - don't know her proper name - the assistant), and there must have been security of some sort, otherwise fans would be overrunning the place. The lack of an entourage on the plane the previous week may be a clue to his 2016 staff. Various reports after he passed away said his finances were a mess for a long time - years if not over a decade, since the Musicology tour. But he never kept advisors he trusted long enough to keep them straight.



Nope that's all true(or so I have heard)! Security (full detail) only on events - but the staging here is that Romeo was in Texas that week on vacation and he sent everyone else home. Who the hell goes home after making grave emergency calls? I'm taking u to Betty ford!! Why hasn't the estate disclosed how much he made on the short P&M tour? Where are the other 2 vaults? Idk this whole thing is wonky at best - leaving no will made sure essentially his heirs won't get much of nothing as the attorneys get paid first and they are all on retainer

--- How is having 50 million in Real Estate a finacial mess?
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Reply #55 posted 08/18/16 12:47pm

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laurarichardson said:

nursev said:



It's appears that it is

_No, he was sitting in 50 million in Real Estate and he had royalties from his songs. He may have other investments. People in his income break it are not usually liquid. He was really smart about his Real Estate investments. It looks like he was running a whole another business.


wow...Prince was truly smart about his investments, but why was all this in such a mess then?
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Reply #56 posted 08/18/16 12:50pm

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Wait nope that still makes no sense the record label and publishing company was all in house right? Those employees were on the payroll cause we saw them passing out those boxes and pizzas! Hmm
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Reply #57 posted 08/18/16 1:00pm

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laurarichardson said:

MD431Madcat said:

I cant believe Prince is gone..

I think i'm entering the anger phase of my mourning because

i think of Prince and i simultaneously think about wanting to beat up the people who are keeping the truth from us fans...

I have a MAJOR problem

with the entire situation from Tyka and the Lawyers and other family members through to Kirk Johnson.. +

all the tight lipped band members.. family members and ex band members..

I heard Shelia E say 'The family knows what happened' ..What the Hell does that mean?!!??!

What did Prince's cousin Chazz mean by 'It's On Record' that he tried to help Prince with his Problem?!?!

How long was this man a Drug Addict? and if that is in fact what he was.. a Drug Addict

Why not Just Say it already!!!! Why all the self serving tribute concert talk but no REAL talk?!?!

Why are Prince's properties being sold off left and right so a bunch of nobodies can pay off Lawyers to try to cash in on Prince's talent?!?!?!

The Mystery Bullshit is Tired... PRINCE IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!

This just isn't fair! sad

--- The properties are being sold off so the family will not have to pay the expense of up keep and property taxes. The family is doing the right thing and you can blame the idiots who keep filing bogus claims for slowing down the closing of the estate. The longer it takes the longer it takes for us fans to get the music.

To be honest, am not really concerned about the other properties...Except for Paisley Park, the PR home (and the Toronto mansion just because it's sooo Princified inside), I don't have an attachment to those other properies. I think if it's necessary to let some of those go in order to preserve PP and PR home then so be it.

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Reply #58 posted 08/18/16 1:13pm

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Agree with a lot of the posts here.
Still seems fishy, don't buy into how this went down ...poor Prince :-(

There's times I start to feel sad for his family they seem to be doing thoughtful things but then something just seems a bit off...
Someone posted early on follow the $$ I still agree.
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Reply #59 posted 08/18/16 1:19pm

bashraka

This is going to be hard to swallow for some fans but at least some of the on-goings of the behavior of Prince's siblings, lawyers and numerous people filing bogus claims to be named heirs in the estate in probate court is on Prince. There's a reason why things like insurance and estate wills exist. For decades Prince could have EASILY drawn up clear and concise instructions on how he wanted Paisley Park Studios to be operated, who would inherit his possessions when he die, what to do with his vaulted recordings etc. He had access to the best lawyers money could buy and those legal documents could have been iron clad. Also, people act like Prince was ALWAYS fan accessible and did things strictly for the fans. Remember "P.F.U.N.K."? Suing 22 people for $1 million each before he dropped the suit? Issuing cease and desist orders on Housequake.com for alleged copyright infringement. Prince in life just like Bremer Trust, Londell Mcmillian, Charles Koppelman, Tyka Nelson etc are doing the best that they can to exploit Prince's properties to maximize the value of assets and minimize liabilities. Fans don't have to deal with the burden of sorting out Prince's finances, the family does. People forget that no matter how close or distant Prince's relatives were to Prince-there STILL HIS FAMILY and were there long before a single fan on this site knew who Prince was.

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