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Thread started 08/17/16 6:17pm

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USA Today - Prince's death: What we know, don't know four months later

See below taken from the USA Today website.

USA TODAY6:57 p.m. EDT August 17, 2016


We know how Prince died, but we don't know why.

We know his staff and doctors tried to save him, but we don't know who might have played a role in his death. We know he didn't leave a will, but we don't know why. We know his estate, especially his musical legacy, is worth millions but not exactly how much, and we don't know if his famous "unreleased tapes in the vault" will ever be available to his grieving fans.

The questions still outnumber the answers four months after the pop icon was found dead in an elevator at his Paisley Park estate outside Minneapolis on April 21.

Why? Because the police investigating this high-profile celebrity death aren't talking. Some court documents, such as full autopsy reports, are not public records under Minnesota law. Prince's relatives, employees and friends, even his ex-wives, apparently knew less about the 57-year-old star's habits than they thought. And because Prince failed to leave a will, the probate proceeding is even more complicated — and non-transparent — than usual.

Here's the official response from the law firm representing Prince's sister, Tyka Nelson. "Out of respect for Prince’s family and attorney/client privilege, we are not commenting on this matter," said Lynn Shelander, marketing manager for the Gray Plant Mooty firm of Minneapolis, in an email to USA TODAY.

Here's what we know and don't know:

Cause of death: The shock of his death was followed in June by the shock of its cause: Prince died from an accidental, self-inflicted overdose of the painkiller fentanyl, according to the Midwest Medical Examiner, which conducted the autopsy in Carver County, Minn.

Was the famously clean-living Prince a longtime drug abuser or a first-time user? We may never know because full autopsy reports are not public under Minnesota law, and generally remain private for at least 30 years.

Full story: http://www.usatoday.com/s.../88563570/

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Reply #1 posted 08/17/16 6:19pm

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nothing new...nobody talking
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Reply #2 posted 08/17/16 6:20pm

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NikkiED said:

See below taken from the USA Today website.

USA TODAY6:57 p.m. EDT August 17, 2016


We know how Prince died, but we don't know why.

We know his staff and doctors tried to save him, but we don't know who might have played a role in his death. We know he didn't leave a will, but we don't know why. We know his estate, especially his musical legacy, is worth millions but not exactly how much, and we don't know if his famous "unreleased tapes in the vault" will ever be available to his grieving fans.

The questions still outnumber the answers four months after the pop icon was found dead in an elevator at his Paisley Park estate outside Minneapolis on April 21.

Why? Because the police investigating this high-profile celebrity death aren't talking. Some court documents, such as full autopsy reports, are not public records under Minnesota law. Prince's relatives, employees and friends, even his ex-wives, apparently knew less about the 57-year-old star's habits than they thought. And because Prince failed to leave a will, the probate proceeding is even more complicated — and non-transparent — than usual.

Here's the official response from the law firm representing Prince's sister, Tyka Nelson. "Out of respect for Prince’s family and attorney/client privilege, we are not commenting on this matter," said Lynn Shelander, marketing manager for the Gray Plant Mooty firm of Minneapolis, in an email to USA TODAY.

Here's what we know and don't know:

Cause of death: The shock of his death was followed in June by the shock of its cause: Prince died from an accidental, self-inflicted overdose of the painkiller fentanyl, according to the Midwest Medical Examiner, which conducted the autopsy in Carver County, Minn.

Was the famously clean-living Prince a longtime drug abuser or a first-time user? We may never know because full autopsy reports are not public under Minnesota law, and generally remain private for at least 30 years.

Full story: http://www.usatoday.com/s.../88563570/

Thanks, it's still surreal that he is gone, and there are still so many questions that need to be answered sad

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Reply #3 posted 08/17/16 6:34pm

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"im addicted to your junk ..and im dying"

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Reply #4 posted 08/17/16 6:37pm

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nursev said:

nothing new...nobody talking

Nope. They sure aren't. I wonder if USA Today's been snooping around here? We know media has been here before.

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Reply #5 posted 08/17/16 6:37pm

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NikkiED said:

See below taken from the USA Today website.

USA TODAY6:57 p.m. EDT August 17, 2016


We know how Prince died, but we don't know why.

We know his staff and doctors tried to save him, but we don't know who might have played a role in his death. We know he didn't leave a will, but we don't know why. We know his estate, especially his musical legacy, is worth millions but not exactly how much, and we don't know if his famous "unreleased tapes in the vault" will ever be available to his grieving fans.

The questions still outnumber the answers four months after the pop icon was found dead in an elevator at his Paisley Park estate outside Minneapolis on April 21.

Why? Because the police investigating this high-profile celebrity death aren't talking. Some court documents, such as full autopsy reports, are not public records under Minnesota law. Prince's relatives, employees and friends, even his ex-wives, apparently knew less about the 57-year-old star's habits than they thought. And because Prince failed to leave a will, the probate proceeding is even more complicated — and non-transparent — than usual.

Here's the official response from the law firm representing Prince's sister, Tyka Nelson. "Out of respect for Prince’s family and attorney/client privilege, we are not commenting on this matter," said Lynn Shelander, marketing manager for the Gray Plant Mooty firm of Minneapolis, in an email to USA TODAY.

Here's what we know and don't know:

Cause of death: The shock of his death was followed in June by the shock of its cause: Prince died from an accidental, self-inflicted overdose of the painkiller fentanyl, according to the Midwest Medical Examiner, which conducted the autopsy in Carver County, Minn.

Was the famously clean-living Prince a longtime drug abuser or a first-time user? We may never know because full autopsy reports are not public under Minnesota law, and generally remain private for at least 30 years.

Full story: http://www.usatoday.com/s.../88563570/



See they ain't forgot about him. They just had to pretend there's other more important stuff to talk about in the world. They still watching out.

Of course that long-time drug abuser, first time user part kind threw me.

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Reply #6 posted 08/17/16 6:38pm

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Mumio said:



nursev said:


nothing new...nobody talking


Nope. They sure aren't. I wonder if USA Today's been snooping around here? We know media has been here before.



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Reply #7 posted 08/17/16 6:39pm

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Was the famously clean-living Prince a longtime drug abuser or a first-time user?

We may never know because full autopsy reports are not public under Minnesota law,

and generally remain private for at least 30 years.

[Edited 8/17/16 18:39pm]

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Reply #8 posted 08/17/16 6:39pm

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Good article in that it's proof there is interest outside the org for more information and/or answers. I guess for me the need is not so much information-wise but just answers regading how things got to the point they did with P. I know it won't change things or bring him back but perhaps it could save a life or change the lives of others. I would think even he would be ok with that.
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Reply #9 posted 08/17/16 6:41pm

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MD431Madcat said:

Was the famously clean-living Prince a longtime drug abuser or a first-time user?


We may never know because full autopsy reports are not public under Minnesota law,


and generally remain private for at least 30 years.

[Edited 8/17/16 18:39pm]



30 mutha----- years....so if I live to see 74 then I may find out what happened to Prince...shame
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Reply #10 posted 08/17/16 6:45pm

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Mumio said:



nursev said:


nothing new...nobody talking


Nope. They sure aren't. I wonder if USA Today's been snooping around here? We know media has been here before.


I think it's very likely. Especially since they mention "his grieving fans". This is THE place. The most vibrant online community regarding P. That's why we are here, right? Lol
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Reply #11 posted 08/17/16 6:50pm

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sonshine said:

Mumio said:

Nope. They sure aren't. I wonder if USA Today's been snooping around here? We know media has been here before.

I think it's very likely. Especially since they mention "his grieving fans". This is THE place. The most vibrant online community regarding P. That's why we are here, right? Lol

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Reply #12 posted 08/17/16 6:52pm

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nursev said:

Mumio said:



nursev said:


nothing new...nobody talking


Nope. They sure aren't. I wonder if USA Today's been snooping around here? We know media has been here before.



yep they've been org noting me too...shameless


If nothing else the media lurkers should have been entertained by the org's healthy sense of humor thanks to some members wink
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Reply #13 posted 08/17/16 6:53pm

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nursev said:

Mumio said:

Nope. They sure aren't. I wonder if USA Today's been snooping around here? We know media has been here before.

yep they've been org noting me too...shameless

Well now...with that comment, you have me wondering about some org notes I've gotten in the last couple of days. Hmmmmm.

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Reply #14 posted 08/17/16 7:01pm

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Mumio said:



nursev said:


Mumio said:



Nope. They sure aren't. I wonder if USA Today's been snooping around here? We know media has been here before.



yep they've been org noting me too...shameless



Well now...with that comment, you have me wondering about some org notes I've gotten in the last couple of days. Hmmmmm.



Seriously??? Ok spill it lol!!!
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Reply #15 posted 08/17/16 8:44pm

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Why write an article when we know nothing new? confused
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Reply #16 posted 08/17/16 9:02pm

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Its an acknowledgment of sorts, and a vein runs Deep through a significant amount of the population who need some acknowledgment on the state of the matter.

rogifan said:

Why write an article when we know nothing new? confused

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StopIt said:

Its an acknowledgment of sorts, and a vein runs Deep through a significant amount of the population who need some acknowledgment on the state of the matter.





rogifan said:


Why write an article when we know nothing new? confused


I don't know what this article is going to do about that. confused
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Reply #18 posted 08/17/16 9:29pm

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Why write an article when we know nothing new? confused

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Reply #19 posted 08/17/16 9:33pm

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There was some talk about it on that panel discussion (on utube) with Vernon Reid, Angela Davis, Toure etc.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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morningsong said:



NikkiED said:


See below taken from the USA Today website.



USA TODAY6:57 p.m. EDT August 17, 2016




We know how Prince died, but we don't know why.


We know his staff and doctors tried to save him, but we don't know who might have played a role in his death. We know he didn't leave a will, but we don't know why. We know his estate, especially his musical legacy, is worth millions but not exactly how much, and we don't know if his famous "unreleased tapes in the vault" will ever be available to his grieving fans.


The questions still outnumber the answers four months after the pop icon was found dead in an elevator at his Paisley Park estate outside Minneapolis on April 21.


Why? Because the police investigating this high-profile celebrity death aren't talking. Some court documents, such as full autopsy reports, are not public records under Minnesota law. Prince's relatives, employees and friends, even his ex-wives, apparently knew less about the 57-year-old star's habits than they thought. And because Prince failed to leave a will, the probate proceeding is even more complicated — and non-transparent — than usual.


Here's the official response from the law firm representing Prince's sister, Tyka Nelson. "Out of respect for Prince’s family and attorney/client privilege, we are not commenting on this matter," said Lynn Shelander, marketing manager for the Gray Plant Mooty firm of Minneapolis, in an email to USA TODAY.


Here's what we know and don't know:


Cause of death: The shock of his death was followed in June by the shock of its cause: Prince died from an accidental, self-inflicted overdose of the painkiller fentanyl, according to the Midwest Medical Examiner, which conducted the autopsy in Carver County, Minn.


Was the famously clean-living Prince a longtime drug abuser or a first-time user? We may never know because full autopsy reports are not public under Minnesota law, and generally remain private for at least 30 years.



Full story: http://www.usatoday.com/s.../88563570/





See they ain't forgot about him. They just had to pretend there's other more important stuff to talk about in the world. They still watching out.

Of course that long-time drug abuser, first time user part kind threw me.


---- Well we did find out the investigation is still going on but the Sheriff said slowly making me think they are looking for someone who responsible but are hitting some brick walls. We found out the music is still racking in big money so maybe people can stop screaming that the estate will not have enough money for taxes and the siblings will have no money. The adminstrator will scan the earth for royalties and soon they will put a stop to boots and these bogus t-shirts.
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Reply #21 posted 08/18/16 6:31am

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sonshine said:

If nothing else the media lurkers should have been entertained by the org's healthy sense of humor thanks to some members wink

Let's hope they enjoyed the cunning-linguist thread wink

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Reply #22 posted 08/18/16 6:46am

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MD431Madcat said:

Was the famously clean-living Prince a longtime drug abuser or a first-time user?

We may never know because full autopsy reports are not public under Minnesota law,

and generally remain private for at least 30 years.

[Edited 8/17/16 18:39pm]


I think neither personally......but wow, 30 years lol

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StopIt said:

Its an acknowledgment of sorts, and a vein runs Deep through a significant amount of the population who need some acknowledgment on the state of the matter.





rogifan said:


Why write an article when we know nothing new? confused



To make sure people buy the paper or read the article online on their widely sponsored website.
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Reply #24 posted 08/18/16 11:33am

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rob1965 said:

StopIt said:

Its an acknowledgment of sorts, and a vein runs Deep through a significant amount of the population who need some acknowledgment on the state of the matter.





rogifan said:


Why write an article when we know nothing new? confused



To make sure people buy the paper or read the article online on their widely sponsored website.

In other words: click bait.
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Reply #25 posted 08/18/16 12:14pm

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"What did Prince's staff know about his use of painkillers and when did they know it? And why did they leave Prince alone the night before his death if he was suffering from a grave medical emergency?"

Shit, we've been saying this from the get go..
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leadline said:



MD431Madcat said:


Was the famously clean-living Prince a longtime drug abuser or a first-time user?


We may never know because full autopsy reports are not public under Minnesota law,


and generally remain private for at least 30 years.


[Edited 8/17/16 18:39pm]




I think neither personally.....but wow, 30 years lol


-- People need to read about the side effects of Fentenyl. He would not have made it this far and certainly would not have been productive.
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leadline said:



MD431Madcat said:


Was the famously clean-living Prince a longtime drug abuser or a first-time user?


We may never know because full autopsy reports are not public under Minnesota law,


and generally remain private for at least 30 years.


[Edited 8/17/16 18:39pm]




I think neither personally.....but wow, 30 years lol


-- People need to read about the side effects of Fentenyl. He would not have made it this far and certainly would not have been productive.
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Reply #28 posted 08/18/16 6:33pm

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Why did they leave him alone that night? He was NOT a drug addict. I wish people would stop saying that.

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Reply #29 posted 08/19/16 9:12pm

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No matter what they say, the fact is that Prince is dead. I'm not prone to believe the papers or magazines anyway. confused

A whole lot better off than the fools he left here.
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