MIRvmn said:

cindyt said:

it was on the plane that he realized someone was trying to poison him. he then put into motion the "fake death" because he knew if he didn't, he would be murdered. the suspects...the people on the plane. sorry....this is all hypothetical of course...like "Clue". Now that you said he mentioned a Jubilant Judas, I don't think there's any doubt he was either murdered or faked his death. All opinion....of course.

Yes if his life was in danger and someone actually tried to poison him on the plane then I'm pretty sure he realized the seroiusness of the situation and faked his death to protect himself.

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I'm pretty sure Prince was being "poisoned", but I don't think he faked his death.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

MIRvmn said:

Yes if his life was in danger and someone actually tried to poison him on the plane then I'm pretty sure he realized the seroiusness of the situation and faked his death to protect himself.

This actually makes sense... And again the reason he had no bad effects from the narcan shot was because he did not OD/have drugs in his system. How did JH get herself on that plane?

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Everything that happened on that plane is all hearsay. We don't know for a fact that Prince even had "pills" in his bag. We don't even know if he O.D. on the plane, for that matter.

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I don't believe 100% what KJ or JH is saying. Either they are stupid/clueless, ignorant or just hiding the truth about what happened.

cloveringold85 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

MIRvmn said: This actually makes sense... And again the reason he had no bad effects from the narcan shot was because he did not OD/have drugs in his system. How did JH get herself on that plane?

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Everything that happened on that plane is all hearsay. We don't know for a fact that Prince even had "pills" in his bag. We don't even know if he O.D. on the plane, for that matter.

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I don't believe 100% what KJ or JH is saying. Either they are stupid/clueless, ignorant or just hiding the truth about what happened.

We could go on and on about what we don't know and we didn't see. Did any of you see the ambulance leave PP with Prince's body? There.

MMJas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Everything that happened on that plane is all hearsay. We don't know for a fact that Prince even had "pills" in his bag. We don't even know if he O.D. on the plane, for that matter.

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I don't believe 100% what KJ or JH is saying. Either they are stupid/clueless, ignorant or just hiding the truth about what happened.

We could go on and on about what we don't know and we didn't see. Did any of you see the ambulance leave PP with Prince's body? There.

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There was never an Ambulance at PP on the 21st. The dispatcher canceled it because Prince was gone and they were unsuccessful at reviving him. They were too late.

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Nope. No pictures of the Coroner being there either to remove Prince's body from PP. You would think that someone would have pictures, but nothing has surfaced. Makes you wonder.

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MMJas said:

wavesofbliss said:

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i want to know what happened in the 4-6 hours between him being dropped off around 8ish and him entering the elevator. when was his last known communication. itt was reported that he sent some emails which meant he waas upstairs in his office for some time. if he was leaving the building and just didn't make it to the door, it would explain why the security system was turned off.

It was also stated by Will Smith that he had spoken to Prince that same night.

I didn't know that!? where did you find/read that?

RoyalDutch said:

MMJas said:

It was also stated by Will Smith that he had spoken to Prince that same night.

I didn't know that!? where did you find/read that?

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Lots of people could have spoke to Prince that night. Did the authorities check Will Smith's phone log to confirm that?

RoyalDutch said:

MMJas said:

It was also stated by Will Smith that he had spoken to Prince that same night.

I didn't know that!? where did you find/read that?

i'm skeptical of the WS phone call. has there been any verification? has WS spoken about it since 4/21. and what business did P have w/ WS? where is the intersect apart from their 1st wives being on that show together?

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*side eye until further info becomes available*

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cloveringold85 said:

MMJas said:

We could go on and on about what we don't know and we didn't see. Did any of you see the ambulance leave PP with Prince's body? There.

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There was never an Ambulance at PP on the 21st. The dispatcher canceled it because Prince was gone and they were unsuccessful at reviving him. They were too late.

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Nope. No pictures of the Coroner being there either to remove Prince's body from PP. You would think that someone would have pictures, but nothing has surfaced. Makes you wonder.

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So how was the body removed then? They managed to man-handle a body stiff with rigour mortis into someone's car?????????

wavesofbliss said:

RoyalDutch said:

I didn't know that!? where did you find/read that?

i'm skeptical of the WS phone call. has there been any verification? has WS spoken about it since 4/21. and what business did P have w/ WS? where is the intersect apart from their 1st wives being on that show together?

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Yea, "side eye" for sure on that one!! Either WS is in need of press time, or he is part of the cover-up too,( i.e.; WS claiming he spoke to P, putting P at home in PP that night).

Dibblekins said:

cloveringold85 said:

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There was never an Ambulance at PP on the 21st. The dispatcher canceled it because Prince was gone and they were unsuccessful at reviving him. They were too late.

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Nope. No pictures of the Coroner being there either to remove Prince's body from PP. You would think that someone would have pictures, but nothing has surfaced. Makes you wonder.

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So how was the body removed then? They managed to man-handle a body stiff with rigour mortis into someone's car?????????

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I have no idea. There has been absolutely no information on how P's body was removed. Bizarre!!

Will Smith publically stated that he was shocked at Prince's death especially since he had talked to him on the phone that same evening. It was something to that extent. I'm sure others remember it also. I found it weird at the time that no journalist went up to WS and asked what they had talked about.

I also found it strange at the time that there were no images of Prince's body being taken out of PP.

MMJas said:

Like many of you, I feel there's some serious fuckery going on around all this. Although it was clear, looking at P about a year prior, *something* was off. I remember seeing him in that orange outfit and thinking "something is not right here" but didn't look into it more.

There is so much we don't know, that won't ever see daylight because people have a LOT to lose if it comes out. I would agree that a very high degree of fuckery occurred between the plane ride and the 21st and I am open (and very sad about) to the possibility that he was murdered. By those close to him? Would not be surprised. There's a LOT of money in his death - more so than in his living, I would say.

All that just to let you know I'm right there in conspiracy corner with you.

MysticalChick said:

cloveringold85 said:

AnonymousFan said:

Folks have been talking a lot about the statement that Tyka made. It seems that has sparked conversations of terminal illness. I can't grasp that and here is the reason why: I lost my Mother 2 years ago to COPD. She was under Hospice care. The stages of the final days were explained to us and as I have said before, my sister is an RN and we cared for our Mother during that time. Part of the process is the body shutting down as it prepares for death and it progresses at it's own pace. There are no life sustaining measures taken. The body doesn't need food or water. The goal is to keep the person comfortable as they go through the process. I do not mean to sound cold but that is the way it is. And I say that to say this, If P was indeed in the end stage, he would not have been looking to a Dr. for life sustaining fluids or treatment, because he would know that the end was near. Instead, (from media) he was seeing a Dr. and having tests done because he was ill. To me, that excludes the terminal illness story as it appears that P was ill and just wanted to get better. I apologize in advance if I offend anyone by sharing this, it is not my intenton.

zenarose said:

oliviacamron said:

AnonymousFan said:

Who do you think, other than Warner Bros., would have killed him? Anybody close to him - within his circle?

I read an article from July in Billboard about a the new head exec at Warner's Cameron Strang, who was hired in 2012. Prince tweets in February '16 how new person at Warner's does not want to pay him properly for vinyl reissues. Prince stated it's time to picket and write your( us fans) petitions to Warner Bros. Those tweets have somehow been removed but screenshots still exist. I remember reading those tweets before they were deleted. Anyway, the article states Warners label was not doing any good business for a while and thier profits really low! The vinyl reissues they refused to pay Prince properly for were I think for Purple Rain. Isn't it funny that they are now doing those reissues now Prince is dead ?

Look on page 7 or 8 of this thread. I posted them a week or so ago.

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zenarose said:

zenarose said:

Folks have been talking a lot about the statement that Tyka made. It seems that has sparked conversations of terminal illness. I can't grasp that and here is the reason why: I lost my Mother 2 years ago to COPD. She was under Hospice care. The stages of the final days were explained to us and as I have said before, my sister is an RN and we cared for our Mother during that time. Part of the process is the body shutting down as it prepares for death and it progresses at it's own pace. There are no life sustaining measures taken. The body doesn't need food or water. The goal is to keep the person comfortable as they go through the process. I do not mean to sound cold but that is the way it is. And I say that to say this, If P was indeed in the end stage, he would not have been looking to a Dr. for life sustaining fluids or treatment, because he would know that the end was near. Instead, (from media) he was seeing a Dr. and having tests done because he was ill. To me, that excludes the terminal illness story as it appears that P was ill and just wanted to get better. I apologize in advance if I offend anyone by sharing this, it is not my intenton.

you know what Zena, I remember my aunt and she was in hospice as well and that is what happened too. when the end is near, the protocol would be exactly like you said, unless the patient/POA agents had second thoughts and wanted to try last ditch.

Usually feeding is turned off because such feeding is actually painful and there is nothing that the gut can do to procecss it, it just sits there. the water too can be pulled but in my aunt's case it was not until she was put into a medically induced coma.

If he was given 2 years to live and he made that terminal statement to his sister in 2014, then he was at the end, he would not have had the energy to perform, let alone travel - even if on a plane. He would've needed care at home, with bathing, dressing, toileting etc. I saw the tweet about wanting us to protest and wondered what it was all about - now it is making better sense.

As far as the body being removed - it is allowed up to 24 hours after the declaration of death for the removal. I would've thought that the media would've had cameras or neighbors would've been on the watch for anything since it was just a week or so after the plane incident - even with the showing at PP, Jazz club and record shop. If he was looking as bad as some say he did (he did look awful skinny and pale) I think somebody would've taped something.

Now I just looked up what Hennepin County ME's vehicles look like and there are a few photos of a white suburban looking vehicle in the parking lot of PP. Could not see the lettering on it, so don't know if it was indeed from the ME.

zenarose said:

SpinsterSister said:

zenarose said:

Folks have been talking a lot about the statement that Tyka made. It seems that has sparked conversations of terminal illness. I can't grasp that and here is the reason why: I lost my Mother 2 years ago to COPD. She was under Hospice care. The stages of the final days were explained to us and as I have said before, my sister is an RN and we cared for our Mother during that time. Part of the process is the body shutting down as it prepares for death and it progresses at it's own pace. There are no life sustaining measures taken. The body doesn't need food or water. The goal is to keep the person comfortable as they go through the process. I do not mean to sound cold but that is the way it is. And I say that to say this, If P was indeed in the end stage, he would not have been looking to a Dr. for life sustaining fluids or treatment, because he would know that the end was near. Instead, (from media) he was seeing a Dr. and having tests done because he was ill. To me, that excludes the terminal illness story as it appears that P was ill and just wanted to get better. I apologize in advance if I offend anyone by sharing this, it is not my intenton.

you know what Zena, I remember my aunt and she was in hospice as well and that is what happened too. when the end is near, the protocol would be exactly like you said, unless the patient/POA agents had second thoughts and wanted to try last ditch.

Usually feeding is turned off because such feeding is actually painful and there is nothing that the gut can do to procecss it, it just sits there. the water too can be pulled but in my aunt's case it was not until she was put into a medically induced coma.

If he was given 2 years to live and he made that terminal statement to his sister in 2014, then he was at the end, he would not have had the energy to perform, let alone travel - even if on a plane. He would've needed care at home, with bathing, dressing, toileting etc. I saw the tweet about wanting us to protest and wondered what it was all about - now it is making better sense.

As far as the body being removed - it is allowed up to 24 hours after the declaration of death for the removal. I would've thought that the media would've had cameras or neighbors would've been on the watch for anything since it was just a week or so after the plane incident - even with the showing at PP, Jazz club and record shop. If he was looking as bad as some say he did (he did look awful skinny and pale) I think somebody would've taped something.

Now I just looked up what Hennepin County ME's vehicles look like and there are a few photos of a white suburban looking vehicle in the parking lot of PP. Could not see the lettering on it, so don't know if it was indeed from the ME.

They said at the press conference that the body was removed around 3PM. I also saw some white vehicles at the parking lot but they didn't look exactly like the Hennepin Country ME's vehicles. I have looked at lot's pictures from pp but there's seems to be no one with a coroner on it

I reviewed TN's interview with ET. She is very matter of fact when she says it didn't bother her at all.

I guess I'm not normal. It would have bothered me a lot.

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zenarose said:

I reviewed TN's interview with ET. She is very matter of fact when she says it didn't bother her at all.

I guess I'm not normal. It would have bothered me a lot.

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especially if that is my only full brother, the same brother who bailed me out at least one time, purchased me a car and had taken care of me and my kids. it would've bothered me a lot too.

Very interesting guys. You've given me a lot to think about.

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Don't forget that Paisley Park has a underground garage. I doubt they would bring Prince's body outside. If his body wasn't removed until that many hours later, and with the publicity he probably was not taken out in a coroner's or ME vehicle.

zenarose said:

Folks have been talking a lot about the statement that Tyka made. It seems that has sparked conversations of terminal illness. I can't grasp that and here is the reason why: I lost my Mother 2 years ago to COPD. She was under Hospice care. The stages of the final days were explained to us and as I have said before, my sister is an RN and we cared for our Mother during that time. Part of the process is the body shutting down as it prepares for death and it progresses at it's own pace. There are no life sustaining measures taken. The body doesn't need food or water. The goal is to keep the person comfortable as they go through the process. I do not mean to sound cold but that is the way it is. And I say that to say this, If P was indeed in the end stage, he would not have been looking to a Dr. for life sustaining fluids or treatment, because he would know that the end was near. Instead, (from media) he was seeing a Dr. and having tests done because he was ill. To me, that excludes the terminal illness story as it appears that P was ill and just wanted to get better. I apologize in advance if I offend anyone by sharing this, it is not my intention.

I wonder if Tyka realized when she made that statement how the public would react?

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I just want to throw this out there...When my older brother was 25 and in great health, etc. he said a similar thing to me. He told me that he'd traveled, partied, and had a great life, and did all he wanted to do. I told him to quit it and he said he wouldn't be "here" much longer.

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He told me what he wanted for his funeral, etc. We were close, so I knew he wasn't ill or suicidal and I told him to quit talking like that, and I put it out of my mind and went on with my life. I started a family and had him as Godfather of my daughter. I was pretty broke, but remember his last Christmas giving him more gifts than normal, I don't know why, perhaps subconsciously I also "knew". Anyway, I was happy that he loved a red sweater I gave him.

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A year and a half after he spoke of his death, he was killed in a car accident. In my grief I couldn't remember what he said he wanted, and was surprised that he had also told my Dad. So at least he got the funeral he wanted, and I put him in that red sweater I gave him (one of his requests was that since he was "blue jean and sweater guy" that he didn't want to be buried in a suit. Even though he wanted a closed casket. While going through his totalled car, I had another surprise; he had purchased a insurance policy that was enough to pay for his funeral and then some, and had the paperwork in his glove compartment.

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I don't know Tyka, but I never got over the fact that I had almost 18 months to question, protect, or whatever I could have done and didn't. It's been years and years now. I'll never get over it. Regrets are a bitch.

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Sorry for venting!

SpinsterSister said:

bigtimefan said:

I wonder if Tyka realized when she made that statement how the public would react?

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I just want to throw this out there...When my older brother was 25 and in great health, etc. he said a similar thing to me. He told me that he'd traveled, partied, and had a great life, and did all he wanted to do. I told him to quit it and he said he wouldn't be "here" much longer.

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He told me what he wanted for his funeral, etc. We were close, so I knew he wasn't ill or suicidal and I told him to quit talking like that, and I put it out of my mind and went on with my life. I started a family and had him as Godfather of my daughter. I was pretty broke, but remember his last Christmas giving him more gifts than normal, I don't know why, perhaps subconsciously I also "knew". Anyway, I was happy that he loved a red sweater I gave him.

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A year and a half after he spoke of his death, he was killed in a car accident. In my grief I couldn't remember what he said he wanted, and was surprised that he had also told my Dad. So at least he got the funeral he wanted, and I put him in that red sweater I gave him (one of his requests was that since he was "blue jean and sweater guy" that he didn't want to be buried in a suit. Even though he wanted a closed casket. While going through his totalled car, I had another surprise; he had purchased a insurance policy that was enough to pay for his funeral and then some, and had the paperwork in his glove compartment.

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I don't know Tyka, but I never got over the fact that I had almost 18 months to question, protect, or whatever I could have done and didn't. It's been years and years now. I'll never get over it. Regrets are a bitch.

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Sorry for venting!

thank you for sharing. i understand what ur saying and can see a difference in ur story and tyka in that car crashes can happen anytime, anywhere to anyone. they are somewhat random. the way prince died was very specific in many ways. i have no doubt that had he died in a plane crashe on the 14th or in a car accident on the 21st( with or without the seizures and drugs talk) no one would be doubting or wondering or questioning.

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another thing about tyka/et interview. right after she says "it wasn't shocking" she brushes her cheek just under her eye. that suggests to me that she is not being truthful. either it DID shock her and she was surprised (and she brushed her own cheek to soothe herself- i twist my hair)or she's making this up. her tone is very matter of fact which comes from being a midwesterner. most if us are straight talkers. jmo