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Reply #510 posted 10/13/16 11:04am

cloveringold85

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zenarose said:

wavesofbliss said:

kirk went to swizterland? can this be confirmed? it's a neutral country with mega bucks, ultra exclusive banks and finacial situation. hmmm..

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prince did mention tyka in the 09 TS show. prince said something like " i learned that you just have to create ur own world. i'm like that and so is my sister and many of my friends." <<<< i'm paraphrasing.

**CORRECTION** I went back again this morning and reviewed the Tavis Smiley YT 2004/2009. I

overlooked Tyka being mentioned yesterday and I want the error in my statement corrected. I

apologize. At the time I was looking for any statement by P on the status of his relationship with

her. This paticular interview is in RE: how he dealt with his father being hard on him. P states that

he created his "own universe". He goes on to say that Tyka and some of his friends create their own

universe.

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Okay. No problema! biggrin

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #511 posted 10/13/16 11:08am

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zenarose said:

1. How and why would KJ kill P and how would he keep everyone silenced ?

Possible jealousy and money. KJ had lived under P's shadow for how many years?? KJ knows the ins

and outs of the business so you know that he has connections with the top ranking executives. He had his hand into too many things and it seems nothing panned out that has lead to his own career. Possibly came about something that would damage P's reputation. Maybe the "jubilent judas" P spoke of with Apolonia. KJ is a personal fitness trainer and probably has a vast knowledge of many "healthy vitamens and supplements". He had every opportunity all day every day to personally hand P "healthy vitamens and supplements" or could have worked in collusion with the chef. But why involve someone else and risk being found out? Could be that KJ was committedly uncommitted.

2. JH- P helped JH as a personal favor to LG. LG had worked with her parents in the past. What a coincidence. Two extremely famous artists are no longer with us and she was involved with both. I do not believe anything that is reported that she has said. There is something about her eyes that are dead, no light. Her body language is unbalanced for some reason, and she doesn't come across as genuine. My jury is still out on her. She did stir up a huge legal mess for her and for P.

3. WB- P was having problems with WB. We have tweets backing this up. P was

tellig fans to picket them. WB, Sony, they are very powerful companies and have too many resources. They can do anything they desire and they get away with it. Could be P outsmarted them and they were PO'd.

I'm still working on Dr. K and son and Dr. S

I do have a few more scenarios for JH and KJ.

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yeahthat

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Not to mention, Prince's family are making millions with all the tribute concerts too.....money keeps rolling in!! eek

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What burns me up is seeing peolple who "claimed" to be Prince's "Friend", yet they are capitalizing off of his death!!

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Wrong!! mad

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Reply #512 posted 10/13/16 11:10am

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AnnaStesia10 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I have mentioned the Chef here several times, but people say I'm "nuts". eek

Ha, then I am "nuts" with you! I thought about the chefs too easy way to poison and kill someone is to prepare their meals.

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Okay......we can all be nutty together then!! LMAO!!

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nuts

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Reply #513 posted 10/13/16 11:57am

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zenarose said:



1. How and why would KJ kill P and how would he keep everyone silenced ?



Possible jealousy and money. KJ had lived under P's shadow for how many years?? KJ knows the ins


and outs of the business so you know that he has connections with the top ranking executives. He had his hand into too many things and it seems nothing panned out that has lead to his own career. Possibly came about something that would damage P's reputation. Maybe the "jubilent judas" P spoke of with Apolonia. KJ is a personal fitness trainer and probably has a vast knowledge of many "healthy vitamens and supplements". He had every opportunity all day every day to personally hand P "healthy vitamens and supplements" or could have worked in collusion with the chef. But why involve someone else and risk being found out? Could be that KJ was committedly uncommitted.



2. JH- P helped JH as a personal favor to LG. LG had worked with her parents in the past. What a coincidence. Two extremely famous artists are no longer with us and she was involved with both. I do not believe anything that is reported that she has said. There is something about her eyes that are dead, no light. Her body language is unbalanced for some reason, and she doesn't come across as genuine. My jury is still out on her. She did stir up a huge legal mess for her and for P.



3. WB- P was having problems with WB. We have tweets backing this up. P was


tellig fans to picket them. WB, Sony, they are very powerful companies and have too many resources. They can do anything they desire and they get away with it. Could be P outsmarted them and they were PO'd.



I'm still working on Dr. K and son and Dr. S





I do have a few more scenarios for JH and KJ.




Tell me more about this "jubilant Judas" Prince spoke of.

Nevermind, I went back and read it for myself. I hadn't noticed that the first time around. That's a very interesting line.

This makes me significantly more suspicious of Kirk than I already was. Why don't we go back a track where Kirk has been and appeared in the last 6 months. We should even figure out what he was up to in the months prior.
[Edited 10/13/16 12:15pm]
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Reply #514 posted 10/13/16 12:32pm

zenarose

Here is an issue that I just can't put together. If we look back at April 14th, to begin with there are a few conflicting reports about P's arrival in Atalnta. 1. He arrived late and the Police had to provide an escort to the theater. 2. He arrived 2 hrs. early (stated by concert promoter). 3. He had 2 bodyguards with him. 4. He had one bodyguard with him (stated by the concert promoter).

We know that JH did not fly in with P nor did she arrive with him at the theater. We do know that JH and Janelle Monae were in the audience together. This leads me to believe that JH was not part of the plan for the flight back to MN. We do know from the the concert promoter that P arrived not feeling well and left in a rush because his stomach was hurting and he wanted to see a Dr. If P was feeling so bad he probably wouldn't be feeling much like company, but somehow JH ends up on the flight. Then if P is feeling so ill with his stomach what is he eating pasta and vegetables for?? Now, reports say that the only folks on the flight was KJ, JH, P, and the pilot. Where is the second bodyguard, if there ever was one? The plane makes the ER landing in Moline. From there it all went to hell in a handbasket! JH's story is not cohesive and does not fit. Did KJ lie to the ST?? Where does 3rdeyegirl members fit in? Where does Joshua Welton fit in. MB?? These people were around him for an extended period of time. They would have known if there was a problem. P was the conductor, every musician was focused on him, his every move. Being that in tune with his vibe....they could read him, they would know. With all the people saying that P was not on drugs someone needs to listen. TMZ was hot on P's donkey at Moline. That is where and when the drug use came into play and I believe that it was planned that way in advance. They have continued to push that agenda. Every time P is mentioned it's

"Prince the artist that died from accidental self administered Fentanyl". The media continues to grind this in with gravel. That is what they want us to believe. I have been in investgations for over 30 years. This case bugs the living bajeebers out of me!!! I can pick the case apart from start to date, but I cannot complete one scenario out of the chicken droppings that are being told. hmph!

[Edited 10/13/16 12:38pm]

[Edited 10/13/16 12:41pm]

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Reply #515 posted 10/13/16 12:33pm

zenarose

AnonymousFan said:

zenarose said:

1. How and why would KJ kill P and how would he keep everyone silenced ?

Possible jealousy and money. KJ had lived under P's shadow for how many years?? KJ knows the ins

and outs of the business so you know that he has connections with the top ranking executives. He had his hand into too many things and it seems nothing panned out that has lead to his own career. Possibly came about something that would damage P's reputation. Maybe the "jubilent judas" P spoke of with Apolonia. KJ is a personal fitness trainer and probably has a vast knowledge of many "healthy vitamens and supplements". He had every opportunity all day every day to personally hand P "healthy vitamens and supplements" or could have worked in collusion with the chef. But why involve someone else and risk being found out? Could be that KJ was committedly uncommitted.

2. JH- P helped JH as a personal favor to LG. LG had worked with her parents in the past. What a coincidence. Two extremely famous artists are no longer with us and she was involved with both. I do not believe anything that is reported that she has said. There is something about her eyes that are dead, no light. Her body language is unbalanced for some reason, and she doesn't come across as genuine. My jury is still out on her. She did stir up a huge legal mess for her and for P.

3. WB- P was having problems with WB. We have tweets backing this up. P was

tellig fans to picket them. WB, Sony, they are very powerful companies and have too many resources. They can do anything they desire and they get away with it. Could be P outsmarted them and they were PO'd.

I'm still working on Dr. K and son and Dr. S

I do have a few more scenarios for JH and KJ.

Tell me more about this "jubilant Judas" Prince spoke of. Nevermind, I went back and read it for myself. I hadn't noticed that the first time around. That's a very interesting line. This makes me significantly more suspicious of Kirk than I already was. Why don't we go back a track where Kirk has been and appeared in the last 6 months. We should even figure out what he was up to in the months prior. [Edited 10/13/16 12:15pm]

D G I........Dang good idea biggrin

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Reply #516 posted 10/13/16 12:51pm

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zenarose said:

Here is an issue that I just can't put together. If we look back at April 14th, to begin with there are a few conflicting reports about P's arrival in Atalnta. 1. He arrived late and the Police had to provide an escort to the theater. 2. He arrived 2 hrs. early (stated by concert promoter). 3. He had 2 bodyguards with him. 4. He had one bodyguard with him (stated by the concert promoter).

We know that JH did not fly in with P nor did she arrive with him at the theater. We do know that JH and Janelle Monae were in the audience together. This leads me to believe that JH was not part of the plan for the flight back to MN. We do know from the the concert promoter that P arrived not feeling well and left in a rush because his stomach was hurting and he wanted to see a Dr. If P was feeling so bad he probably wouldn't be feeling much like company, but somehow JH ends up on the flight. Then if P is feeling so ill with his stomach what is he eating pasta and vegetables for?? Now, reports say that the only folks on the flight was KJ, JH, P, and the pilot. Where is the second bodyguard, if there ever was one? The plane makes the ER landing in Moline. From there it all went to hell in a handbasket! JH's story is not cohesive and does not fit. Did KJ lie to the ST?? Where does 3rdeyegirl members fit in? Where does Joshua Welton fit in. MB?? These people were around him for an extended period of time. They would have known if there was a problem. P was the conductor, every musician was focused on him, his every move. Being that in tune with his vibe....they could read him, they would know. With all the people saying that P was not on drugs someone needs to listen. TMZ was hot on P's donkey at Moline. That is where and when the drug use came into play and I believe that it was planned that way in advance. They have continued to push that agenda. Every time P is mentioned it's

"Prince the artist that died from accidental self administered Fentanyl". The media continues to grind this in with gravel. That is what they want us to believe. I have been in investgations for over 30 years. This case bugs the living bajeebers out of me!!! I can pick the case apart from start to date, but I cannot complete one scenario out of the chicken droppings that are being told. hmph!

[Edited 10/13/16 12:38pm]

[Edited 10/13/16 12:41pm]

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As always, very well thought-out commentaries by Zena!! clapping

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You made a lot of good points and some very valid questions. So many conflicting stories, indeed.

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It is very strange that JH stated Prince was eating pasta and vegetables on the plane, given the fact the he was't "feeling well".

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KJ knows a lot of things. I'm sure his lawyer told him to keep a tight lip!!

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TMZ knew everything that was gonig on with P -- from the airplane incident, up until the 21st. They were the first to break the news. Someone in P's "circle" must have been feeding TMZ the info....which is quite obvious.

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The media just wants the masses to believe Prince was just another rock star who overdosed on drugs, and sweep everything under the rug.

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[Edited 10/13/16 12:54pm]

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Reply #517 posted 10/13/16 12:55pm

zenarose

AnonymousFan said:

zenarose said:

1. How and why would KJ kill P and how would he keep everyone silenced ?

Possible jealousy and money. KJ had lived under P's shadow for how many years?? KJ knows the ins

and outs of the business so you know that he has connections with the top ranking executives. He had his hand into too many things and it seems nothing panned out that has lead to his own career. Possibly came about something that would damage P's reputation. Maybe the "jubilent judas" P spoke of with Apolonia. KJ is a personal fitness trainer and probably has a vast knowledge of many "healthy vitamens and supplements". He had every opportunity all day every day to personally hand P "healthy vitamens and supplements" or could have worked in collusion with the chef. But why involve someone else and risk being found out? Could be that KJ was committedly uncommitted.

2. JH- P helped JH as a personal favor to LG. LG had worked with her parents in the past. What a coincidence. Two extremely famous artists are no longer with us and she was involved with both. I do not believe anything that is reported that she has said. There is something about her eyes that are dead, no light. Her body language is unbalanced for some reason, and she doesn't come across as genuine. My jury is still out on her. She did stir up a huge legal mess for her and for P.

3. WB- P was having problems with WB. We have tweets backing this up. P was

tellig fans to picket them. WB, Sony, they are very powerful companies and have too many resources. They can do anything they desire and they get away with it. Could be P outsmarted them and they were PO'd.

I'm still working on Dr. K and son and Dr. S

I do have a few more scenarios for JH and KJ.

Tell me more about this "jubilant Judas" Prince spoke of. Nevermind, I went back and read it for myself. I hadn't noticed that the first time around. That's a very interesting line. This makes me significantly more suspicious of Kirk than I already was. Why don't we go back a track where Kirk has been and appeared in the last 6 months. We should even figure out what he was up to in the months prior. [Edited 10/13/16 12:15pm]

Oh and let's not forget the others that lived in MN. They need to be looked at also! magnify

[Edited 10/13/16 12:56pm]

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Reply #518 posted 10/13/16 1:20pm

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zenarose said:

Oh and let's not forget the others that lived in MN. They need to be looked at also! magnify

[Edited 10/13/16 12:56pm]

who lives in MN? who are you referring to? i like the way you think and you make great points. i have no doubt that KJ(the errand man) and MB(the assisstant) have some of the missing links there is no way they DON"T KNOW what happened,imo.

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i can't see how the chef is in the picture. he said that the spring salad he made for prince was still in the fridge. i doubt he was lacing his smoothies with illict drugs; it's a step too far for me. a bit too much like the board game 'clue'.

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TMZ clearly has an agenda and or they are being used to drill the "druggie narrative" home. curse them!

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Reply #519 posted 10/13/16 1:42pm

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cloveringold85 said:



zenarose said:




Here is an issue that I just can't put together. If we look back at April 14th, to begin with there are a few conflicting reports about P's arrival in Atalnta. 1. He arrived late and the Police had to provide an escort to the theater. 2. He arrived 2 hrs. early (stated by concert promoter). 3. He had 2 bodyguards with him. 4. He had one bodyguard with him (stated by the concert promoter).


We know that JH did not fly in with P nor did she arrive with him at the theater. We do know that JH and Janelle Monae were in the audience together. This leads me to believe that JH was not part of the plan for the flight back to MN. We do know from the the concert promoter that P arrived not feeling well and left in a rush because his stomach was hurting and he wanted to see a Dr. If P was feeling so bad he probably wouldn't be feeling much like company, but somehow JH ends up on the flight. Then if P is feeling so ill with his stomach what is he eating pasta and vegetables for?? Now, reports say that the only folks on the flight was KJ, JH, P, and the pilot. Where is the second bodyguard, if there ever was one? The plane makes the ER landing in Moline. From there it all went to hell in a handbasket! JH's story is not cohesive and does not fit. Did KJ lie to the ST?? Where does 3rdeyegirl members fit in? Where does Joshua Welton fit in. MB?? These people were around him for an extended period of time. They would have known if there was a problem. P was the conductor, every musician was focused on him, his every move. Being that in tune with his vibe....they could read him, they would know. With all the people saying that P was not on drugs someone needs to listen. TMZ was hot on P's donkey at Moline. That is where and when the drug use came into play and I believe that it was planned that way in advance. They have continued to push that agenda. Every time P is mentioned it's


"Prince the artist that died from accidental self administered Fentanyl". The media continues to grind this in with gravel. That is what they want us to believe. I have been in investgations for over 30 years. This case bugs the living bajeebers out of me!!! I can pick the case apart from start to date, but I cannot complete one scenario out of the chicken droppings that are being told. hmph!


[Edited 10/13/16 12:38pm]


[Edited 10/13/16 12:41pm]



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As always, very well thought-out commentaries by Zena!! clapping


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You made a lot of good points and some very valid questions. So many conflicting stories, indeed.


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It is very strange that JH stated Prince was eating pasta and vegetables on the plane, given the fact the he was't "feeling well".


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KJ knows a lot of things. I'm sure his lawyer told him to keep a tight lip!!


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TMZ knew everything that was gonig on with P -- from the airplane incident, up until the 21st. They were the first to break the news. Someone in P's "circle" must have been feeding TMZ the info....which is quite obvious.


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The media just wants the masses to believe Prince was just another rock star who overdosed on drugs, and sweep everything under the rug.


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[Edited 10/13/16 12:54pm]



Agree with all above.
KJ knows what went down on the 14th and if JH was there but WHY was she there? Great points Zenarose...lots of conflicting info for that day as well.
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Reply #520 posted 10/13/16 1:43pm

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zenarose said:



AnonymousFan said:


zenarose said:



1. How and why would KJ kill P and how would he keep everyone silenced ?



Possible jealousy and money. KJ had lived under P's shadow for how many years?? KJ knows the ins


and outs of the business so you know that he has connections with the top ranking executives. He had his hand into too many things and it seems nothing panned out that has lead to his own career. Possibly came about something that would damage P's reputation. Maybe the "jubilent judas" P spoke of with Apolonia. KJ is a personal fitness trainer and probably has a vast knowledge of many "healthy vitamens and supplements". He had every opportunity all day every day to personally hand P "healthy vitamens and supplements" or could have worked in collusion with the chef. But why involve someone else and risk being found out? Could be that KJ was committedly uncommitted.



2. JH- P helped JH as a personal favor to LG. LG had worked with her parents in the past. What a coincidence. Two extremely famous artists are no longer with us and she was involved with both. I do not believe anything that is reported that she has said. There is something about her eyes that are dead, no light. Her body language is unbalanced for some reason, and she doesn't come across as genuine. My jury is still out on her. She did stir up a huge legal mess for her and for P.



3. WB- P was having problems with WB. We have tweets backing this up. P was


tellig fans to picket them. WB, Sony, they are very powerful companies and have too many resources. They can do anything they desire and they get away with it. Could be P outsmarted them and they were PO'd.



I'm still working on Dr. K and son and Dr. S





I do have a few more scenarios for JH and KJ.




Tell me more about this "jubilant Judas" Prince spoke of. Nevermind, I went back and read it for myself. I hadn't noticed that the first time around. That's a very interesting line. This makes me significantly more suspicious of Kirk than I already was. Why don't we go back a track where Kirk has been and appeared in the last 6 months. We should even figure out what he was up to in the months prior. [Edited 10/13/16 12:15pm]



Oh and let's not forget the others that lived in MN. They need to be looked at also! magnify

[Edited 10/13/16 12:56pm]


Do you mean Penguin girl? I thought Jeanette lived in Cali?
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Reply #521 posted 10/13/16 2:10pm

zenarose

Family members there and what was the relationship. Any close friends. How they make their living, their lifestyle, past life involvements, ect. cool

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Reply #522 posted 10/13/16 2:32pm

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zenarose said:

Here is an issue that I just can't put together. If we look back at April 14th, to begin with there are a few conflicting reports about P's arrival in Atalnta. 1. He arrived late and the Police had to provide an escort to the theater. 2. He arrived 2 hrs. early (stated by concert promoter). 3. He had 2 bodyguards with him. 4. He had one bodyguard with him (stated by the concert promoter).

We know that JH did not fly in with P nor did she arrive with him at the theater. We do know that JH and Janelle Monae were in the audience together. This leads me to believe that JH was not part of the plan for the flight back to MN. We do know from the the concert promoter that P arrived not feeling well and left in a rush because his stomach was hurting and he wanted to see a Dr. If P was feeling so bad he probably wouldn't be feeling much like company, but somehow JH ends up on the flight. Then if P is feeling so ill with his stomach what is he eating pasta and vegetables for?? Now, reports say that the only folks on the flight was KJ, JH, P, and the pilot. Where is the second bodyguard, if there ever was one? The plane makes the ER landing in Moline. From there it all went to hell in a handbasket! JH's story is not cohesive and does not fit. Did KJ lie to the ST?? Where does 3rdeyegirl members fit in? Where does Joshua Welton fit in. MB?? These people were around him for an extended period of time. They would have known if there was a problem. P was the conductor, every musician was focused on him, his every move. Being that in tune with his vibe....they could read him, they would know. With all the people saying that P was not on drugs someone needs to listen. TMZ was hot on P's donkey at Moline. That is where and when the drug use came into play and I believe that it was planned that way in advance. They have continued to push that agenda. Every time P is mentioned it's

"Prince the artist that died from accidental self administered Fentanyl". The media continues to grind this in with gravel. That is what they want us to believe. I have been in investgations for over 30 years. This case bugs the living bajeebers out of me!!! I can pick the case apart from start to date, but I cannot complete one scenario out of the chicken droppings that are being told. hmph!

[Edited 10/13/16 12:38pm]

[Edited 10/13/16 12:41pm]

Agree with the above. JH's story makes no sense to me and it seems it's meant to fit the purpose of pushing the accidental drug overdose narrative. Those are all valid questions. If he had stomach pain so bad that he requered the assistance of adoctor, how come he was eating on the plane? Unless there wasno stomach pain and he simply was in a bad shape after the strain of a long concert and needed to get to the plane asap so as to take whatever opiates he was illegally. Then yes, he would feel better enough to eat something. whatever he took on that plane caused the emergency landing.
Also, the problem with the "Prince was murdered on the plane" narrative is that he was seen by fans by throwing a party after the landing. Why do that?

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Reply #523 posted 10/13/16 2:47pm

zenarose

MMJas said:

zenarose said:

Here is an issue that I just can't put together. If we look back at April 14th, to begin with there are a few conflicting reports about P's arrival in Atalnta. 1. He arrived late and the Police had to provide an escort to the theater. 2. He arrived 2 hrs. early (stated by concert promoter). 3. He had 2 bodyguards with him. 4. He had one bodyguard with him (stated by the concert promoter).

We know that JH did not fly in with P nor did she arrive with him at the theater. We do know that JH and Janelle Monae were in the audience together. This leads me to believe that JH was not part of the plan for the flight back to MN. We do know from the the concert promoter that P arrived not feeling well and left in a rush because his stomach was hurting and he wanted to see a Dr. If P was feeling so bad he probably wouldn't be feeling much like company, but somehow JH ends up on the flight. Then if P is feeling so ill with his stomach what is he eating pasta and vegetables for?? Now, reports say that the only folks on the flight was KJ, JH, P, and the pilot. Where is the second bodyguard, if there ever was one? The plane makes the ER landing in Moline. From there it all went to hell in a handbasket! JH's story is not cohesive and does not fit. Did KJ lie to the ST?? Where does 3rdeyegirl members fit in? Where does Joshua Welton fit in. MB?? These people were around him for an extended period of time. They would have known if there was a problem. P was the conductor, every musician was focused on him, his every move. Being that in tune with his vibe....they could read him, they would know. With all the people saying that P was not on drugs someone needs to listen. TMZ was hot on P's donkey at Moline. That is where and when the drug use came into play and I believe that it was planned that way in advance. They have continued to push that agenda. Every time P is mentioned it's

"Prince the artist that died from accidental self administered Fentanyl". The media continues to grind this in with gravel. That is what they want us to believe. I have been in investgations for over 30 years. This case bugs the living bajeebers out of me!!! I can pick the case apart from start to date, but I cannot complete one scenario out of the chicken droppings that are being told. hmph!

[Edited 10/13/16 12:38pm]

[Edited 10/13/16 12:41pm]

Agree with the above. JH's story makes no sense to me and it seems it's meant to fit the purpose of pushing the accidental drug overdose narrative. Those are all valid questions. If he had stomach pain so bad that he requered the assistance of adoctor, how come he was eating on the plane? Unless there wasno stomach pain and he simply was in a bad shape after the strain of a long concert and needed to get to the plane asap so as to take whatever opiates he was illegally. Then yes, he would feel better enough to eat something. whatever he took on that plane caused the emergency landing.
Also, the problem with the "Prince was murdered on the plane" narrative is that he was seen by fans by throwing a party after the landing. Why do that?

Exactly! the crucial time frame is from Prince walking off the stage until the plane diversion. I

believe the truth is there.

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Reply #524 posted 10/13/16 3:14pm

wavesofbliss

zenarose said:

MMJas said:

Agree with the above. JH's story makes no sense to me and it seems it's meant to fit the purpose of pushing the accidental drug overdose narrative. Those are all valid questions. If he had stomach pain so bad that he requered the assistance of adoctor, how come he was eating on the plane? Unless there wasno stomach pain and he simply was in a bad shape after the strain of a long concert and needed to get to the plane asap so as to take whatever opiates he was illegally. Then yes, he would feel better enough to eat something. whatever he took on that plane caused the emergency landing.
Also, the problem with the "Prince was murdered on the plane" narrative is that he was seen by fans by throwing a party after the landing. Why do that?

Exactly! the crucial time frame is from Prince walking off the stage until the plane diversion. I

believe the truth is there.

i agree. the thing is, what JH described as happening on the plane is a petit siezure. for me the question is was the siezure cause from the pain meds or withdrawl from the pain meds. siezures are likely to happen in both cases esp if there is a past history of epilepsy.

//

his behavoir at the party on saturday is consistant with how he handled things. always put on a strong face - remember mayte said they did that interview w/oprah the day after the baby was cremated to show that they were strong and keep up the brave front. the dance party was more of the same. interesting that no one mentions KJ or MB being there.

//

i want to know what happened in the 4-6 hours between him being dropped off around 8ish and him entering the elevator. when was his last known communication. itt was reported that he sent some emails which meant he waas upstairs in his office for some time. if he was leaving the building and just didn't make it to the door, it would explain why the security system was turned off.

///

another thing i have read, that really bothers me is that it is illegal to creamate a body(in MN) while a criminal investigation is in progress. i don't know how to confirm this, but if it is true .... eek this is some kind of shit!

[Edited 10/13/16 15:19pm]

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Reply #525 posted 10/13/16 5:57pm

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zenarose said:

MMJas said:

Agree with the above. JH's story makes no sense to me and it seems it's meant to fit the purpose of pushing the accidental drug overdose narrative. Those are all valid questions. If he had stomach pain so bad that he requered the assistance of adoctor, how come he was eating on the plane? Unless there wasno stomach pain and he simply was in a bad shape after the strain of a long concert and needed to get to the plane asap so as to take whatever opiates he was illegally. Then yes, he would feel better enough to eat something. whatever he took on that plane caused the emergency landing.
Also, the problem with the "Prince was murdered on the plane" narrative is that he was seen by fans by throwing a party after the landing. Why do that?

Exactly! the crucial time frame is from Prince walking off the stage until the plane diversion. I

believe the truth is there.

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Reply #526 posted 10/13/16 5:58pm

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zenarose said:

MMJas said:

Agree with the above. JH's story makes no sense to me and it seems it's meant to fit the purpose of pushing the accidental drug overdose narrative. Those are all valid questions. If he had stomach pain so bad that he requered the assistance of adoctor, how come he was eating on the plane? Unless there wasno stomach pain and he simply was in a bad shape after the strain of a long concert and needed to get to the plane asap so as to take whatever opiates he was illegally. Then yes, he would feel better enough to eat something. whatever he took on that plane caused the emergency landing.
Also, the problem with the "Prince was murdered on the plane" narrative is that he was seen by fans by throwing a party after the landing. Why do that?

Exactly! the crucial time frame is from Prince walking off the stage until the plane diversion. I

believe the truth is there.

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cindyt said:

zenarose said:

Exactly! the crucial time frame is from Prince walking off the stage until the plane diversion. I

believe the truth is there.

it was on the plane that he realized someone was trying to poison him. he then put into motion the "fake death" because he knew if he didn't, he would be murdered. the suspects...the people on the plane. sorry....this is all hypothetical of course...like "Clue". Now that you said he mentioned a Jubilant Judas, I don't think there's any doubt he was either murdered or faked his death. All opinion....of course.

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wavesofbliss said:

zenarose said:

Exactly! the crucial time frame is from Prince walking off the stage until the plane diversion. I

believe the truth is there.

i agree. the thing is, what JH described as happening on the plane is a petit siezure. for me the question is was the siezure cause from the pain meds or withdrawl from the pain meds. siezures are likely to happen in both cases esp if there is a past history of epilepsy.

//

his behavoir at the party on saturday is consistant with how he handled things. always put on a strong face - remember mayte said they did that interview w/oprah the day after the baby was cremated to show that they were strong and keep up the brave front. the dance party was more of the same. interesting that no one mentions KJ or MB being there.

//

i want to know what happened in the 4-6 hours between him being dropped off around 8ish and him entering the elevator. when was his last known communication. itt was reported that he sent some emails which meant he waas upstairs in his office for some time. if he was leaving the building and just didn't make it to the door, it would explain why the security system was turned off.

///

another thing i have read, that really bothers me is that it is illegal to creamate a body(in MN) while a criminal investigation is in progress. i don't know how to confirm this, but if it is true .... eek this is some kind of shit!

[Edited 10/13/16 15:19pm]

It was also stated by Will Smith that he had spoken to Prince that same night.

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Reply #529 posted 10/13/16 6:05pm

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wavesofbliss said:

zenarose said:

Exactly! the crucial time frame is from Prince walking off the stage until the plane diversion. I

believe the truth is there.

i agree. the thing is, what JH described as happening on the plane is a petit siezure. for me the question is was the siezure cause from the pain meds or withdrawl from the pain meds. siezures are likely to happen in both cases esp if there is a past history of epilepsy.

//

his behavoir at the party on saturday is consistant with how he handled things. always put on a strong face - remember mayte said they did that interview w/oprah the day after the baby was cremated to show that they were strong and keep up the brave front. the dance party was more of the same. interesting that no one mentions KJ or MB being there.

//

i want to know what happened in the 4-6 hours between him being dropped off around 8ish and him entering the elevator. when was his last known communication. itt was reported that he sent some emails which meant he waas upstairs in his office for some time. if he was leaving the building and just didn't make it to the door, it would explain why the security system was turned off.

///

another thing i have read, that really bothers me is that it is illegal to creamate a body(in MN) while a criminal investigation is in progress. i don't know how to confirm this, but if it is true .... eek this is some kind of shit!

[Edited 10/13/16 15:19pm]

My sister is a RN. Trust me when I tell you that I have leeched her brain so much that she changed the #'s on her house just so I'd think she moved!! She said that JH's description of "fixed eyes" and non responsive sounded like a siezure rather than OD. Also she described the scene of when someone is given narcan for an OD which is nothing like what JH describes in her recollection. Narcan would have no effect on someone that did not OD on opiods other than in some cases depending on health and age, possibly heart attack , blood pressure issues, ect. I discount what JH had to say based on professional medical information. (and because sis made me say it!! I am 18 years older than her.... but I am 5-4 and she is 6-0 so I will give her this one)

*

Tyka was at the party. Dr. Funkenberry was there also as P had him flown out. Dr. F stated that "they" ( I assumed KJ and MB) looked and acted shocked to see him there, as if "they" had no idea that he was coming. He never called KJ or MB. He only said "They" It also seems that no one can agree whether P looked normal or tired, frail, or ill. I wonder if MP was there?

*

I have a link to a radio station where a man calls in to say that his wife texted him at 7:58pm on 4/20 to say that as she was walking into Walgreens, Prince was walking out. So I would say (depending on the distance from Walgreen) he would be home around 8:30 to 9:pm. Here's the deal tho, P didn't go home and go to bed like most sick folks do. He calls Will Smith, lined out tasks to be done the next day, took care of emails. Doing what he normally does. That's why this is so confusing. Something went horribly wrong around 4am. (my deduction) That's when he had to have taken a pill because if he had taken one when he got home the effects would be wearing off and he would need another dose. I'm thinking it works for 6 hrs. With him working and doing business like normal it doesn't make him sound like he was ill. I still can't figure out the CCTV being off. The clothes part, the elevator part,... if this is true folks are up front bragging and in our face. But it is so unbelievable.........

*

Here is how they got past that one....LE did the initial investigation but they still had the option to further investigate if they chose to. The ME released the body, the family took it and ran to the crematory. In May... certainly after the fact, DEA took over and updated the case to a criminal investigation. That also kept the records sealed so that media couldn't see what happened. Crafty!!

[Edited 10/13/16 18:13pm]

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Reply #530 posted 10/13/16 6:23pm

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cloveringold85 said:



zenarose said:




1. How and why would KJ kill P and how would he keep everyone silenced ?



Possible jealousy and money. KJ had lived under P's shadow for how many years?? KJ knows the ins


and outs of the business so you know that he has connections with the top ranking executives. He had his hand into too many things and it seems nothing panned out that has lead to his own career. Possibly came about something that would damage P's reputation. Maybe the "jubilent judas" P spoke of with Apolonia. KJ is a personal fitness trainer and probably has a vast knowledge of many "healthy vitamens and supplements". He had every opportunity all day every day to personally hand P "healthy vitamens and supplements" or could have worked in collusion with the chef. But why involve someone else and risk being found out? Could be that KJ was committedly uncommitted.



2. JH- P helped JH as a personal favor to LG. LG had worked with her parents in the past. What a coincidence. Two extremely famous artists are no longer with us and she was involved with both. I do not believe anything that is reported that she has said. There is something about her eyes that are dead, no light. Her body language is unbalanced for some reason, and she doesn't come across as genuine. My jury is still out on her. She did stir up a huge legal mess for her and for P.



3. WB- P was having problems with WB. We have tweets backing this up. P was


tellig fans to picket them. WB, Sony, they are very powerful companies and have too many resources. They can do anything they desire and they get away with it. Could be P outsmarted them and they were PO'd.



I'm still working on Dr. K and son and Dr. S





I do have a few more scenarios for JH and KJ.




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yeahthat


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Not to mention, Prince's family are making millions with all the tribute concerts too.....money keeps rolling in!! eek


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What burns me up is seeing peolple who "claimed" to be Prince's "Friend", yet they are capitalizing off of his death!!


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Wrong!! mad




Zenrose, I was thinking KJ was jealous also. As a matter of fact, when listening to the song today the X's face, the part when P throws someone a banana, I thought to myself, Prince is talking about KJ. I have this photo of KJ from Facebook and he looks evil. I wish I knew how to post it[img]
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #531 posted 10/13/16 6:35pm

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I just saw that on Facebook he lists himself as the estate manager of Paisley Park. That's distrubing.

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Reply #532 posted 10/13/16 7:03pm

wavesofbliss

zenarose said:

My sister is a RN. Trust me when I tell you that I have leeched her brain so much that she changed the #'s on her house just so I'd think she moved!! She said that JH's description of "fixed eyes" and non responsive sounded like a siezure rather than OD. Also she described the scene of when someone is given narcan for an OD which is nothing like what JH describes in her recollection. Narcan would have no effect on someone that did not OD on opiods other than in some cases depending on health and age, possibly heart attack , blood pressure issues, ect. I discount what JH had to say based on professional medical information. (and because sis made me say it!! I am 18 years older than her.... but I am 5-4 and she is 6-0 so I will give her this one)

*

Tyka was at the party. Dr. Funkenberry was there also as P had him flown out. Dr. F stated that "they" ( I assumed KJ and MB) looked and acted shocked to see him there, as if "they" had no idea that he was coming. He never called KJ or MB. He only said "They" It also seems that no one can agree whether P looked normal or tired, frail, or ill. I wonder if MP was there?

*

I have a link to a radio station where a man calls in to say that his wife texted him at 7:58pm on 4/20 to say that as she was walking into Walgreens, Prince was walking out. So I would say (depending on the distance from Walgreen) he would be home around 8:30 to 9:pm. Here's the deal tho, P didn't go home and go to bed like most sick folks do. He calls Will Smith, lined out tasks to be done the next day, took care of emails. Doing what he normally does. That's why this is so confusing. Something went horribly wrong around 4am. (my deduction) That's when he had to have taken a pill because if he had taken one when he got home the effects would be wearing off and he would need another dose. I'm thinking it works for 6 hrs. With him working and doing business like normal it doesn't make him sound like he was ill. I still can't figure out the CCTV being off. The clothes part, the elevator part,... if this is true folks are up front bragging and in our face. But it is so unbelievable.........

*

Here is how they got past that one....LE did the initial investigation but they still had the option to further investigate if they chose to. The ME released the body, the family took it and ran to the crematory. In May... certainly after the fact, DEA took over and updated the case to a criminal investigation. That also kept the records sealed so that media couldn't see what happened. Crafty!!

[Edited 10/13/16 18:13pm]

--- has the will smith thing been confirmed? i have always been skeptical.

+++

---- so is DrF saying that prince emailed him to come out. ANd sent JH back to cali? if KJ and MB are "they" he's referring to, prince contacted Drf personally. seems unlikley but not impossible.

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who is LE that did the prelimenary investigation? ur saying it wasn't ruled a criminal investigation until wks later bcos they didn't know the drugs were illegal. that makes some sense.

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Reply #533 posted 10/13/16 7:34pm

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zenarose said:



wavesofbliss said:




zenarose said:





Exactly! the crucial time frame is from Prince walking off the stage until the plane diversion. I



believe the truth is there.



i agree. the thing is, what JH described as happening on the plane is a petit siezure. for me the question is was the siezure cause from the pain meds or withdrawl from the pain meds. siezures are likely to happen in both cases esp if there is a past history of epilepsy.




//


his behavoir at the party on saturday is consistant with how he handled things. always put on a strong face - remember mayte said they did that interview w/oprah the day after the baby was cremated to show that they were strong and keep up the brave front. the dance party was more of the same. interesting that no one mentions KJ or MB being there.



//


i want to know what happened in the 4-6 hours between him being dropped off around 8ish and him entering the elevator. when was his last known communication. itt was reported that he sent some emails which meant he waas upstairs in his office for some time. if he was leaving the building and just didn't make it to the door, it would explain why the security system was turned off.



///


another thing i have read, that really bothers me is that it is illegal to creamate a body(in MN) while a criminal investigation is in progress. i don't know how to confirm this, but if it is true .... eek this is some kind of shit!


[Edited 10/13/16 15:19pm]




My sister is a RN. Trust me when I tell you that I have leeched her brain so much that she changed the #'s on her house just so I'd think she moved!! She said that JH's description of "fixed eyes" and non responsive sounded like a siezure rather than OD. Also she described the scene of when someone is given narcan for an OD which is nothing like what JH describes in her recollection. Narcan would have no effect on someone that did not OD on opiods other than in some cases depending on health and age, possibly heart attack , blood pressure issues, ect. I discount what JH had to say based on professional medical information. (and because sis made me say it!! I am 18 years older than her.... but I am 5-4 and she is 6-0 so I will give her this one)



*



Tyka was at the party. Dr. Funkenberry was there also as P had him flown out. Dr. F stated that "they" ( I assumed KJ and MB) looked and acted shocked to see him there, as if "they" had no idea that he was coming. He never called KJ or MB. He only said "They" It also seems that no one can agree whether P looked normal or tired, frail, or ill. I wonder if MP was there?



*



I have a link to a radio station where a man calls in to say that his wife texted him at 7:58pm on 4/20 to say that as she was walking into Walgreens, Prince was walking out. So I would say (depending on the distance from Walgreen) he would be home around 8:30 to 9:pm. Here's the deal tho, P didn't go home and go to bed like most sick folks do. He calls Will Smith, lined out tasks to be done the next day, took care of emails. Doing what he normally does. That's why this is so confusing. Something went horribly wrong around 4am. (my deduction) That's when he had to have taken a pill because if he had taken one when he got home the effects would be wearing off and he would need another dose. I'm thinking it works for 6 hrs. With him working and doing business like normal it doesn't make him sound like he was ill. I still can't figure out the CCTV being off. The clothes part, the elevator part,... if this is true folks are up front bragging and in our face. But it is so unbelievable.....



*



Here is how they got past that one....LE did the initial investigation but they still had the option to further investigate if they chose to. The ME released the body, the family took it and ran to the crematory. In May... certainly after the fact, DEA took over and updated the case to a criminal investigation. That also kept the records sealed so that media couldn't see what happened. Crafty!!

[Edited 10/13/16 18:13pm]


This is interesting ^^^^^actually the entire last week of his life were a bit bizarre, poor Prince.

So the narcan shot had no bad side effects on P because he was not ODing on the plane. Now that finally makes sense.

Then the party and KJ and MB look surprised to see P? Did they not know he returned back home?

And, Why would anyone keep KJ as an employee at PP????
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Reply #534 posted 10/13/16 7:49pm

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Dr. F never said that KJ or MB was there at the party. He only referred to someone as "THEY" and I

assume that is KJ and MB. Whoever "THEY was had no idea that P had invited Dr. F. So they were

shocked to see him ( Dr. F.) there. KJ has been very active in working on PP. The new Property Mgr.

bragged on how informative and helpful he has been and how he knew everything about P and P's

business. And on and on.... oh yes he found a way to stay in tight.

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I just saw that on Facebook he lists himself as the estate manager of Paisley Park. That's distrubing.


I KNOW. I think it's best I don't go there . I would get banned if not arrested!
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Reply #536 posted 10/14/16 12:57am

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cloveringold85 said:

zenarose said:

I can answer that question!! Looked it up back months ago.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/23/company-nbc-says-provided-charter-jet-service-prince-emergency-landing-flight-owned-warren-buffetts-berkshire-hathaway/

Lifetime Fitness leases the plane from this company.

SIDENOTE: During the Tavis Smiley interview, 2004 and 2009 - Tyka was not mentioned.

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Thanks, Zena! You are on the ball.......I suppose I could have looked it up myself. LOL rolleyes

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Yea, I don't recall P mentioning Tyka in any of his interviews as of late.

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[Edited 10/12/16 17:26pm]

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cindyt said:

it was on the plane that he realized someone was trying to poison him. he then put into motion the "fake death" because he knew if he didn't, he would be murdered. the suspects...the people on the plane. sorry....this is all hypothetical of course...like "Clue". Now that you said he mentioned a Jubilant Judas, I don't think there's any doubt he was either murdered or faked his death. All opinion....of course.

Yes if his life was in danger and someone actually tried to poison him on the plane then I'm pretty sure he realized the seroiusness of the situation and faked his death to protect himself.

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Reply #538 posted 10/14/16 7:34am

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cindyt said:

zenarose said:

Exactly! the crucial time frame is from Prince walking off the stage until the plane diversion. I

believe the truth is there.

Just because someone is served a meal does not mean that they are actually eating the meal. If you go to dinner with someone and you’re both served meals.. you’re talking and/or laughing..looking out of windows; etc. Your dinner companion has sips of water..sips of wine maybe, from time to time pushes some food around on the plate..or doesn’t eat at all. But..youdid eat; when you relay that event to someone else, you’re simply going to say we were having dinner; or we had dinner, or we had pasta and veggies, or we were eating pasta and veggies. You’re not going to go into details, especially if it’s someone you deem…impressive. Or if it’s someone you’re had meals with before and you know they never eat very much. They are there, you are there, the food is there; they sometimes eat and sometimes not; it’s still going to be “we had dinner together”.

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MIRvmn said:



cindyt said:




cindyt said:





it was on the plane that he realized someone was trying to poison him. he then put into motion the "fake death" because he knew if he didn't, he would be murdered. the suspects...the people on the plane. sorry....this is all hypothetical of course...like "Clue". Now that you said he mentioned a Jubilant Judas, I don't think there's any doubt he was either murdered or faked his death. All opinion....of course.



Yes if his life was in danger and someone actually tried to poison him on the plane then I'm pretty sure he realized the seroiusness of the situation and faked his death to protect himself.



This actually makes sense...
And again the reason he had no bad effects from the narcan shot was because he did not OD/have drugs in his system.
How did JH get herself on that plane?
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