morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said: This has nothing to do with a will simple gossip mongering by a major newspaper.

I'll give them a smidge benefit of the doubt and see what the do with the information they get. Of course that means nothing because if they have access to it, doesn't that mean everybody else has access to it, include the slander rags?

Yes, everyone will have access.

NinaB said:

babynoz said:

Oops! Yes maam...

...& I was just about 2 bring your attention 2 the forgotten 'C' in your earlier post! It's olldddd slang,but by the time it reached the mainstream their pronouncing (/spelling) it Fuckery it's been bugging me 4 ages!

teach49 said:

wavesofbliss said:

Anyway, I had one author that lived in a cabin in the woods in Virginia who called me on the regular threatening to kill his neighbor's roosters because they woke him up in the morning. I seriously had to tell him to put the rifle down at one point. I called my boss one day concerned because I thought he was the Unibomber.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

I'll give them a smidge benefit of the doubt and see what the do with the information they get. Of course that means nothing because if they have access to it, doesn't that mean everybody else has access to it, include the slander rags?

Yes, everyone will have access.

So all of ST blustering about them not publishing others private embrassing information means nothing because it's wide opened for anyone else to publish it for their own uses. I see why so many want this.

Cha-Ching!

I don't know what to say about these matters. The only thing I know for certain is that it's spelt fuckery.

TheEnglishGent said:

nursev said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I don't know what to say about these matters. The only thing I know for certain is that it's spelt fuckery.

Ooooooh NinaB not having it

Po thang... Little does he know he does not want Ms. Nina to come for his poor misguided behind.

Have mercy Nina....for he knows not what he do.

TheEnglishGent said:

I don't know what to say about these matters. The only thing I know for certain is that it's spelt fuckery.

Run!

babynoz said:

laurarichardson said:

LuxLove said:

Struggling through it myself, not a fan of the guy at all.

He's confirmed Prince stopped talking to Manuela & they were living apart which forced her to file for divorce. Says she's very fiesty & there may well be negative stuff in the papers about Prince. He says we need to be prepared for it. Also mentions that Manuela reached out to Prince via him regarding the school in Dec/Jan. He's very pro Manuela, anti ST and said something about ST becoming like a gossip rag or something like that- can't remember verbatim but my firppst thought was "so are you Dr!"

He also shaded 'new' Prince fans for comments they make on his facebook or something like that. They are not 'real' fans. Oh & he said very little about the memorial.

There's probably more but difficult to listen because I get so annoyed

-/-/ Minn is a no-fault divorce state so you do not have to put anything for a reason for divorce. He did not contest it do what would be in there? We know he used pain pills. We even saw pics of him riding around in the old person scooter back before they divorced so it appeared he had some mobility isssues. Not sure why we need to know his net worth from 10 years? Or what received in the divorce.

According to Dr. Funkenberry, Tamar had to give testamony during the divorce proceeding, so I think that there is more there than just routine paper work. Remember that Tamar abruptly left the group around that time, so maybe she said something against Prince.

[Edited 8/18/16 15:22pm]

TheEnglishGent said:

teach49 said:

perfume said:

Exactly. That's the $300 million question I've been asking from jump.

I get this, and I agree that the tickets shouldn't be much, but how on earth would P's family be able to have any kind of tribute, livestreaming online or on TV, with enough seats available to allow a large number of fans to attend in person, without charging? And with the estate tied up in probate? MJ's family has their own money, and they're wealthy. Same with Whitney's. But P's family are just normal people.

Even Spike Lee's street party cost money...and he has it so he could do that.

I do wish they'd done something early on, though, but I can't judge since I'd find it very hard to organize something like that.

I think fans need to do their own memorial, private or with others, if the tribute concert isn't their cup of tea.

I agree that fans should have their own memorial events, that's why I've already had one. Did you get word that folks haven't thought to do this?

A tribute concert is indeed a lovely idea, but it does not replace extending an opportunity for fans to be a part of the official spiritual reflection and remembrance.

You are right, to provide a huge free event for fans would clearly be very expensive, and not everyone in the world could attend. Livestreaming would not have required inviting any fans to the service at all. Just access to witness it.

If time and energy can be taken to organize a monetized concert, and a number of services for select friends and Hollywood notables, then at the very least, someone can take 60 seconds to simply upload a PDF of Prince's memorial program with a brief note of appreciation to fans for their love and support. Send it to the mods here, and done. That's free, and everyone has an official memento. It just requires someone to care enough to do it. I still have my copy of Whitney's program, and you can find it online even now.

Services are all over with now, so it really doesn't matter. It's unfortunate because there were SO many cool things that could have been done to show fan appreciation, and to foster inclusion/connection that are quick, easy, cost free, and non-intrusive to the family or their celebrity friends.

babynoz said:

perfume said:

NinaB said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I don't know what to say about these matters. The only thing I know for certain is that it's spelt fuckery.

& that's how u pronounce it right? Spare me, englishgent

NinaB said:

babynoz said:

nursev said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I don't know what to say about these matters. The only thing I know for certain is that it's spelt fuckery.

Ooooooh NinaB not having it

Po thang... Little does he know he does not want Ms. Nina to come for his poor misguided behind.

Have mercy Nina....for he knows not what he do.

Y'all crack me up!

Militant said:

Prince wanted these documents to remain sealed. Bottom line. Unsealing these documents goes against what Prince wanted. Fact. Perhaps if the fanbase had understood this and showed some solidarity rather than tearing down a woman who they don't even know, Prince's wishes could have been adhered to. Sad day.

So I guess it's too late to hold a protest in front of the Star Tribune's office and blast Billy Jack?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nursev said:

NinaB said:

& that's how u pronounce it right? Spare me, englishgent

Omg I'm dying

NinaB said:

nursev said:

Omg I'm dying

Dammit! Just a little 2 late in with the edit

nursev said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

All this craziness made me lose focus on my Tiny House i am building. Gotta get back to my interior floor plans!! Yell have fun and I'm sure we will all talk later lmbo!!

yes focusing on our own lives is such a great idea...this type of stuff was always here...it just got worse after April. Happy Building
[Edited 8/18/16 13:44pm]

Mkilpatrick74 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Yes, everyone will have access.

I feel like there is a script out there and it's trying to be shoved down our throats. Anyone notice how familiar his rant sounded about this has nothing to do with an heir or will they are only trying to hurt (paraphrase) Prince!!!! And he kept saying it over and over!

Who is this "he"? Dr. Funkenberry? He wasn't in the courtrooms either. Someone has already posted an interview from reporters from the ST and I'm speaking from what they said.

nursev said:

NinaB said:

Dammit! Just a little 2 late in with the edit

Aww

TheEnglishGent said:

Genesia said:

LuxLove said:

Tamar was interviewed by lawyers as part of the divorce.

Aha!

Mani filed for divorce a couple days before Prince (with Tamar and the Twinz) played the Empire in Las Vegas. I was there that weekend and remarked to a few people how Tamar did not seem as bright and bubbly as she had when I saw the Tamar show at the Orpheum in Minneapolis in February. After those Empire shows, they did the GMA TV appearance and Tamar was gone after that.

I always wondered if Mani hadn't made some sort of allegation regarding her. If Tamar had already been interviewed/deposed - or had received a summons - that would definitely account for her demeanor. And make her quick departure a lot more understandable.

The timing of the shuttering of the NPGMC makes a lot more sense, too. I'm sure Prince didn't want people discussing his divorce in his own living room.

The last show that I remember Tamar doing with Prince was an awards show (I forget which one) and I'm pretty sure it was after the GMA show. I remember them doing shows in Las Vegas after the awards show and Tamar was not a part of it. I'm not sure if it was the Empire shows or not. I wondered why the abrupt departure. I knew something had to have gone down and now I know what happened.

perfume said:

teach49 said:

I get this, and I agree that the tickets shouldn't be much, but how on earth would P's family be able to have any kind of tribute, livestreaming online or on TV, with enough seats available to allow a large number of fans to attend in person, without charging? And with the estate tied up in probate? MJ's family has their own money, and they're wealthy. Same with Whitney's. But P's family are just normal people.

Even Spike Lee's street party cost money...and he has it so he could do that.

I do wish they'd done something early on, though, but I can't judge since I'd find it very hard to organize something like that.

I think fans need to do their own memorial, private or with others, if the tribute concert isn't their cup of tea.

I agree that fans should have their own memorial events, that's why I've already had one. Did you get word that folks haven't thought to do this?

A tribute concert is indeed a lovely idea, but it does not replace extending an opportunity for fans to be a part of the official spiritual reflection and remembrance.

You are right, to provide a huge free event for fans would clearly be very expensive, and not everyone in the world could attend. Livestreaming would not have required inviting any fans to the service at all. Just access to witness it.

If time and energy can be taken to organize a monetized concert, and a number of services for select friends and Hollywood notables, then at the very least, someone can take 60 seconds to simply upload a PDF of Prince's memorial program with a brief note of appreciation to fans for their love and support. Send it to the mods here, and done. That's free, and everyone has an official memento. It just requires someone to care enough to do it. I still have my copy of Whitney's program, and you can find it online even now.

Services are all over with now, so it really doesn't matter. It's unfortunate because there were SO many cool things that could have been done to show fan appreciation, and to foster inclusion/connection that are quick, easy, cost free, and non-intrusive to the family or their celebrity friends.

Well said, perfume!!!

[Edited 8/18/16 16:42pm]

The Tamar situation is different, really. Her album was supposed to come out, Prince fell out with Universal about the extent to which 3121 would be promoted, he played hardball with them and as a result they cancelled Tamar's album release as the record was literally about to be pressed up and sent to stores - it was so last minute that the Japanese pressing had already been made and was IN stores in Japan, so we're talking the US and international release being literally days away.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

My impression is that unless Prince released information in his way, he wanted everything else private (sealed). I am in agreement with Militant.

However, with Prince's passing and currently with no one in charge of Prince's affairs, we may see more of this type of information leaked.

I do not believe many of his innter circle, both past or present, will begin releasing books and tell alls. In time, we will see Prince's true and dearest friends by those who talk and those who don't.

I think the Tribune is fishing for any story, not a certain story. Prince has been private and his privacy was strong. Minimal dirt was available. Now, reporters, not all, are trying to get the inside of Prince's very private life. The Tribune has the best shot, being local. I do not agree with it, but it is what it is.

As for Mrs. Benet and her reasoning for wanting the documents sealed. I can only speculate. I have a vibe her wanting the documents to remain sealed is more for her benefit than Prince's. Never met the woman, just a vibe. The actual divorce decreee may not have useful or damaging information. The working papers may be another story.

This leads me to a question, since the divorce papers are to be unsealed, pending appeals, with only the decree be unsealed or the working papers as well? I do not believe the working papers are submitted with the divorce decree, but I can be wrong. If the working papers are not released, then in my opinion, the only real information obtained will be why the divorce happend (irreconcilable difference, etc) and maybe the settlement amounts.

Attorney work product would NOT be part of the Court files.

Let's say that Manuela was trying to get a better settlement and used dirt on Prince to get it. Would that dirt be in the official record?

Also, am I seeing it right that some people are now complaining that this thread hasn't been deleted?

So you guys love to complain when we do take down a thread. And now you complain when we don't. I can't keep up!

Whaddya want, a public poll? Does the thread stay or does it go?