thanx for the mpr link. it cleared a few things up,for me. it was nice to hear the woman talk about mn's part in preserving his legacy. i'm strangely comforted by the outpouring of love for him in mn. he was so proud to be from there and they love him that much too.

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the other stuff : BT wants to get a final number on the estate and settle on the heirs. they side with MT in keeping things sealed because if what is revealed is damaging to P's character, they are concerned that it will lessen the total sum of the estate in the present time and going forward.

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glad they stated the fact that people who were brought in to consult (mcmillan and kopelman)were once fired by prince. that makes my stomach turn. but it sounds like they were the best choices to help clean up a mess they should've prevented. they might know where some of the threads lead and how to tie things up quickly.

Freddie Mercury was great but he wasn't Prince! Any television station would've done that for free. As far as non fans wanting to show respect at a free concert...what's wrong with it? And yes when you've supported an artist for 30 years you shouldn't have to pay to see their memorial tribute just my two cents.

babynoz said:

me too I'm bought to delete this damn site from my bookmarks...damn
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nursev said:

I'm not sure what planet you live on but no network is going to broadcast a tribute concert for free just because it's Prince. Now if you're talking about a shorter, smaller memorial service I'm sure the cable networks would have but I totally respect the family for wanting it to be private too. Now if we has\d a will from Prince spelling this all out....but I still think he wouldn't have wanted a memorial service broadcast on TV. He was a private person not a spectacle and publicity whore like MJ.

rogifan said:

Trust me it could've been done and I don't think the MJ thing was funny either.

NinaB said:

But please peeps! it's always been said (& should be spelt) as 'Fuckree'!

Oops! Yes maam...

nursev said:

teach49 said:

Well, I didn't say one had to be uber rich, and I think it's safe to say that Aretha, Dionne, and even Whitney's own mother are wealthier than P's family. And Whitney had a will I believe so Bobby Kristina may have had access to funds. Then there's Bobby Brown. There is no one like any of those people in P's family. Just sayin...

Girl I'm from Detroit so I know all about Aretha and Whitneys family...they're wealthy but not super rich like I said and yes his family are regular people but any network would've broadcast a memorial for Prince free! it takes maybe 10000 to give a person a regular funeral...it's not a lot. life insurance would cover that much.

I think this is where I disagree. I don't believe that any network would have streamed it nationally for free. Maybe a few minutes of it, but not a full on tribute/memorial. (And yes I think MJ and Whitney's family spent more money than people are assuming.) Maybe a cable network? But I ditched cable long ago so that would leave a lot of fans out. Maybe a local network, yeah, I could see that, but that would leave a lot of fans out, too.

Funerals these days can easily cost more than 10,000, especially if he hadn't made any arrangements ahead of time (which he clearly hadn't...but my mother had and that saved us thousands when she died).

I hear you, and I do agree something should have been done sooner (that's the big thing), but I hate to judge Tyka when we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Geez, four of the siblings are over 70, right? Who knows what she's had to deal with...

Anyway, it is what it is I guess. I'm going to something in my hometown with friends who are fans and that will be enough for me.

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rogifan said:

teach49 said:

I get this, and I agree that the tickets shouldn't be much, but how on earth would P's family be able to have any kind of tribute, livestreaming online or on TV, with enough seats available to allow a large number of fans to attend in person, without charging? And with the estate tied up in probate? MJ's family has their own money, and they're wealthy. Same with Whitney's. But P's family are just normal people.

Even Spike Lee's street party cost money...and he has it so he could do that.

I do wish they'd done something early on, though, but I can't judge since I'd find it very hard to organize something like that.

I think fans need to do their own memorial, private or with others, if the tribute concert isn't their cup of tea.

The Freddie Mercury tribute concert wasn't free though proceeds went to AIDS charity. It's possible something similar might happen here. But I think the idea that tickets should be free because we've spent money buying albums, attending concerts, buying merchandise etc. is silly. I guarantee if tickets were free you'd have a ton of non-fans getting tickets just because it's a free concert in a new stadium. How sad would that be??

This. That would be nice.

nursev said:

Sorry TV networks don't do things for free and cable news channels like CNN don't broadcast concerts. The problem with free tickets is they'd be snatched up so fast a lot of die hard fans would probably be left out. It's a new stadium with only a couple concerts there before this tribute. I guarantee you people who didn't give one lick about Prince would go because it was free and just to experience a concert in the new stadium. This event needs to be for the real fans. Everyone else can watch it on TV if they want.

teach49 said:

I'm gonna say ok and leave it at that.

morningsong said:

This has nothing to do with a will simple gossip mongering by a major newspaper.

rogifan said:

nursev said:

Girl I'm from Detroit so I know all about Aretha and Whitneys family...they're wealthy but not super rich like I said and yes his family are regular people but any network would've broadcast a memorial for Prince free! it takes maybe 10000 to give a person a regular funeral...it's not a lot. life insurance would cover that much.

I'm not sure what planet you live on but no network is going to broadcast a tribute concert for free just because it's Prince. Now if you're talking about a shorter, smaller memorial service I'm sure the cable networks would have but I totally respect the family for wanting it to be private too. Now if we has\d a will from Prince spelling this all out....but I still think he wouldn't have wanted a memorial service broadcast on TV. He was a private person not a spectacle and publicity whore like MJ.

oooooo, not nice. I'm a ride or die Prince fan, but MJs been in my life since I was 5 from the old cartoon days, talk about a soundtrack to ones life, MJ has been there from practically memory one.

nursev said:

Nope, and yes I think MJ was a publicity whore.

wavesofbliss said:

Koppleman did not work for Prince he worked for EMI. EMI was sold and Koppleman was let go. Prince can't fire someone who never worked for him.

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

I got a better understanding. Still leery though.

From the sounds of it, it isn't about whether there was a will or not, they feel it is their civic duty, or something like that, to find these things out.

I say those that know exactly what's up, if they can't stop it, get in front of it, that's what "they" always say. Spin the hell out of it, everybody else is.

This has nothing to do with a will simple gossip mongering by a major newspaper.

I'll give them a smidge benefit of the doubt and see what the do with the information they get. Of course that means nothing because if they have access to it, doesn't that mean everybody else has access to it, include the slander rags?

morningsong said:

Sorry, not meaning to offend anyone but I have to call it like I see it and I do think as brilliant as MJ was he was a publicity whore. MTV and Lisa Marie Presley anyone?

Speaking of MTV I wonder if they're planning a Prince tribute at the VMAs this year? I haven't heard anything.

teach49 said:

perfume said:

Exactly. That's the $300 million question I've been asking from jump.

I get this, and I agree that the tickets shouldn't be much, but how on earth would P's family be able to have any kind of tribute, livestreaming online or on TV, with enough seats available to allow a large number of fans to attend in person, without charging? And with the estate tied up in probate? MJ's family has their own money, and they're wealthy. Same with Whitney's. But P's family are just normal people.

Even Spike Lee's street party cost money...and he has it so he could do that.

I do wish they'd done something early on, though, but I can't judge since I'd find it very hard to organize something like that.

I think fans need to do their own memorial, private or with others, if the tribute concert isn't their cup of tea.

I think the paid tribute concert is a separate matter from a public memorial for our beloved Prince. A memorial would include spiritual offerings and music. And it would not necessarily have to be on a grand scale to be live streamed. In my mind, all that matters is that the service be dignified and held in a nice setting. Besides which, these days, live streaming is not that costly. Heck, I don't see why the family couldn't have live streamed the most recent small service held at Paisley Park.

rogifan said:

ok imma let you carry on with that then

FlyOnTheWall said:

teach49 said:

I get this, and I agree that the tickets shouldn't be much, but how on earth would P's family be able to have any kind of tribute, livestreaming online or on TV, with enough seats available to allow a large number of fans to attend in person, without charging? And with the estate tied up in probate? MJ's family has their own money, and they're wealthy. Same with Whitney's. But P's family are just normal people.

Even Spike Lee's street party cost money...and he has it so he could do that.

I do wish they'd done something early on, though, but I can't judge since I'd find it very hard to organize something like that.

I think fans need to do their own memorial, private or with others, if the tribute concert isn't their cup of tea.

I think the paid tribute concert is a separate matter from a public memorial for our beloved Prince. A memorial would include spiritual offerings and music. And it would not necessarily have to be on a grand scale to be live streamed. In my mind, all that matters is that the service be dignified and held in a nice setting. Besides which, these days, live streaming is not that costly. Heck, I don't see why the family couldn't have live streamed the most recent small service held at Paisley Park.

I agree that livestreamed on the Internet could have been done. I think they just wanted it private. Since it's Prince -- and he would likely want the same -- I can't complain about that. That and the fact that I find livestreaming on the Internet kind of annoying. But that's me in my old age. I assumed people were talking about an MJ-esque funeral on live TV.

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

oooooo, not nice. I'm a ride or die Prince fan, but MJs been in my life since I was 5 from the old cartoon days, talk about a soundtrack to ones life, MJ has been there from practically memory one.

Sorry, not meaning to offend anyone but I have to call it like I see it and I do think as brilliant as MJ was he was a publicity whore. MTV and Lisa Marie Presley anyone? Speaking of MTV I wonder if they're planning a Prince tribute at the VMAs this year? I haven't heard anything.

Heck by that token, they all are publicity whores, it's their freakin' job to get publicity, you ain't said nothing new, so it could have been left unsaid.

I was talking about a small service not the staple center...damn. did Ali's family pay for his to be televised?

and again the MJ jokes are disrespectful.

nursev said:

I was talking about a small service not the staple center...damn. did Ali's family pay for his to be televised?

Sorry. I thought you were saying that the October concert should be free and should be streamed on live television...and I don't think that's possible without charging money unless you already have money. If you were talking about televising the Saturday memorial then I have to say that I don't know. I don't think they'd do it in prime time and I'm not sure if it would be free. Locally, maybe.

But that I honestly don't know.

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babynoz said:

...& I was just about 2 bring your attention 2 the forgotten 'C' in your earlier post! It's olldddd slang,but by the time it reached the mainstream their pronouncing (/spelling) it Fuckery it's been bugging me 4 ages!

laurarichardson said:

wavesofbliss said:

thanx for the mpr link. it cleared a few things up,for me. it was nice to hear the woman talk about mn's part in preserving his legacy. i'm strangely comforted by the outpouring of love for him in mn. he was so proud to be from there and they love him that much too.

++

the other stuff : BT wants to get a final number on the estate and settle on the heirs. they side with MT in keeping things sealed because if what is revealed is damaging to P's character, they are concerned that it will lessen the total sum of the estate in the present time and going forward.

++

glad they stated the fact that people who were brought in to consult (mcmillan and kopelman)were once fired by prince. that makes my stomach turn. but it sounds like they were the best choices to help clean up a mess they should've prevented. they might know where some of the threads lead and how to tie things up quickly.

Koppleman did not work for Prince he worked for EMI. EMI was sold and Koppleman was let go. Prince can't fire someone who never worked for him.

erm, i thought koppelman was the engineer that worked on D&P, Ingrids record and other early 90s stuff. is this a different Koppelman? i must have missed that. i figured it was a 2 pronged attack: mcmillan gets the paperwork together, koppelman get the tapes sorted.

nursev said:

I'm assuming not. But it was only broadcast on cable news channels like CNN. I'm sure they would have done the same for Prince but the family probably preferred it to be private. Or maybe they know Prince's wishes in this matter even without a will.

teach49 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think the paid tribute concert is a separate matter from a public memorial for our beloved Prince. A memorial would include spiritual offerings and music. And it would not necessarily have to be on a grand scale to be live streamed. In my mind, all that matters is that the service be dignified and held in a nice setting. Besides which, these days, live streaming is not that costly. Heck, I don't see why the family couldn't have live streamed the most recent small service held at Paisley Park.

I agree that livestreamed on the Internet could have been done. I think they just wanted it private. Since it's Prince -- and he would likely want the same -- I can't complain about that. That and the fact that I find livestreaming on the Internet kind of annoying. But that's me in my old age. I assumed people were talking about an MJ-esque funeral on live TV.

The more I think about it, I think the best (and most obvious) place for a nice public, spiritual memorial for Prince would be Paisley Park. Of course, it can't seat all who would want to attend, but it could be televised and live streamed around the world.

rogifan said:

nursev said:

I was talking about a small service not the staple center...damn. did Ali's family pay for his to be televised?

I'm assuming not. But it was only broadcast on cable news channels like CNN. I'm sure they would have done the same for Prince but the family probably preferred it to be private. Or maybe they know Prince's wishes in this matter even without a will.

I don't think Prince would have a problem with allowing his fams to witness a memorial in his honor. Why would he?

nursev said:

and again the MJ jokes are disrespectful.

I could not agree more, nursev.

FlyOnTheWall said:

rogifan said:

nursev said: I'm assuming not. But it was only broadcast on cable news channels like CNN. I'm sure they would have done the same for Prince but the family probably preferred it to be private. Or maybe they know Prince's wishes in this matter even without a will.

I don't think Prince would have a problem with allowing his fams to witness a memorial in his honor. Why would he?

The other things is -- and this is contradictory to what I said earlier -- that I have a bit of an issue with always doing what the person who died wants. Honest, they're gone. Funerals and tributes are for the living. I can understand the family memorial being private because he kept family things private, but there is a limit to that argument in my opinion.

This goes for any person who died. You just can't always live by what they would have wanted. They may have handled grief differently or needed something else. And that's fine sometimes.