nursev said:

NinaB said:

But please peeps! it's always been said (& should be spelt) as 'Fuckree'!

Noted for future posting

NinaB said:

nursev said:

Noted for future posting

Good!
1 down 3 million 2 go

LuxLove said:

morningsong said:

Thank you very much for this. It was highly informative.

It sure is. Difficult to listen but interesting.

Prince must've known the repercussions of not having a will, it just doesn't make sense & I know it never will which is the most annoying thing.

I got a better understanding. Still leery though.

From the sounds of it, it isn't about whether there was a will or not, they feel it is their civic duty, or something like that, to find these things out.

I say those that know exactly what's up, if they can't stop it, get in front of it, that's what "they" always say. Spin the hell out of it, everybody else is.

morningsong said:

LuxLove said:

It sure is. Difficult to listen but interesting.

Prince must've known the repercussions of not having a will, it just doesn't make sense & I know it never will which is the most annoying thing.

I got a better understanding. Still leery though.

From the sounds of it, it isn't about whether there was a will or not, they feel it is their civic duty, or something like that, to find these things out.

I say those that know exactly what's up, if they can't stop it, get in front of it, that's what "they" always say. Spin the hell out of it, everybody else is.

Yes & what stuck with me were the reasons given for Bremners involvement. I don't like any of this one bit. I truly hope it's nothing.

LuxLove said:

morningsong said:

I got a better understanding. Still leery though.

From the sounds of it, it isn't about whether there was a will or not, they feel it is their civic duty, or something like that, to find these things out.

I say those that know exactly what's up, if they can't stop it, get in front of it, that's what "they" always say. Spin the hell out of it, everybody else is.

Yes & what stuck with me were the reasons given for Bremners involvement. I don't like any of this one bit. I truly hope it's nothing.

I might have to give it another listen, but I don't see anything wrong with Bremers being concerned, there's enough on their plate without a whole lot of other foolishness dealing with old anger and old wounds. Let them do they're job, pay the bills, wrap all this up and hand all the craziness to the family to deal with as they see fit.

I kind of wonder if some of this is a ploy to push the DEAs hand. I highly doubt they'd say squat. Seems like they're stone-walled anyway.

[Edited 8/18/16 12:16pm]

LuxLove said:

morningsong said:

I got a better understanding. Still leery though.

From the sounds of it, it isn't about whether there was a will or not, they feel it is their civic duty, or something like that, to find these things out.

I say those that know exactly what's up, if they can't stop it, get in front of it, that's what "they" always say. Spin the hell out of it, everybody else is.

Yes & what stuck with me were the reasons given for Bremners involvement. I don't like any of this one bit. I truly hope it's nothing.

What were the reasons given for Bremer's involvement?

My concern is that P's former attorneys, and the attorneys that went to Probate Court and said they had possible confidential information regarding heirs and other matters, represented Bremer at the Family Court hearing.

morningsong said:

LuxLove said:

Yes & what stuck with me were the reasons given for Bremners involvement. I don't like any of this one bit. I truly hope it's nothing.

I might have to give it another listen, but I don't see anything wrong with Bremers being concerned, there's enough on their plate without a whole lot of other foolishness dealing with old anger and old wounds. Let them do they're job, pay the bills, wrap all this up and hand all the craziness to the family to deal with as they see fit.

I kind of wonder if some of this is a ploy to push the DEAs hand. I highly doubt they'd say squat. Seems like they're stone-walled anyway.

[Edited 8/18/16 12:16pm]

It was just the way the guy said BT pointed out if something was damaging to Prince it might have a negative impact on his legacy. Can't remember actual quote.

Look forward to this being over!

The press is divorced from reality.

2freaky4church1 said:

The press is divorced from reality.

They make money off anything creating interest and have neither pity nor mercy and added to some hardcore fans wanting to know all details, it is a high price to pay when you live under the lime light.

NinaB said:

But please peeps! it's always been said (& should be spelt) as 'Fuckree'!

gotcha! lol

morningsong said:

LuxLove said:

It sure is. Difficult to listen but interesting.

Prince must've known the repercussions of not having a will, it just doesn't make sense & I know it never will which is the most annoying thing.

I got a better understanding. Still leery though.

From the sounds of it, it isn't about whether there was a will or not, they feel it is their civic duty, or something like that, to find these things out.

I say those that know exactly what's up, if they can't stop it, get in front of it, that's what "they" always say. Spin the hell out of it, everybody else is.

more or less said it is routine procedure for them; however, i don't buy that bc they have not gone after Mayte and her divorce records. and God i hope they don't!

i

[Edited 8/18/16 12:58pm]

panpac777 said:

Well we didn't buy just a flu bug so they had to switch gears and they always go to drugs! U would think they would come up with something more believable like brain hemridge or something since he had epilepsy as a child. I wonder if he canceled the concert cause he was not ready and had more last minute things to take care of. Read that bible baby. I hope u have an audience cause our entertainment is now silence even when the dial is turned up. I'll be reading it too cause there is nothing left to do. I'm happy 4 u. But not 4 me. [Edited 8/16/16 0:23am]

And who exactly are THEY? The Illuminati? They, they, they. Prince died from an overdose. You think THEY somehow got Judith Hill to lie about what happened on the plane? You think THEY got the people who did the autopsy and toxicolgy reports to lie? Whoever THEY are THEY must be very powerful to feel the need to do this to someone who was far beyond his commercial peak and who wasn't challenging any authority figures that I know of. Seriously, who are THEY? THEY live in your imagination only.

LuxLove said:

morningsong said:

I might have to give it another listen, but I don't see anything wrong with Bremers being concerned, there's enough on their plate without a whole lot of other foolishness dealing with old anger and old wounds. Let them do they're job, pay the bills, wrap all this up and hand all the craziness to the family to deal with as they see fit.

I kind of wonder if some of this is a ploy to push the DEAs hand. I highly doubt they'd say squat. Seems like they're stone-walled anyway.

[Edited 8/18/16 12:16pm]

It was just the way the guy said BT pointed out if something was damaging to Prince it might have a negative impact on his legacy. Can't remember actual quote.

Look forward to this being over!

Yes, they said something like that. Their concern is the money and technically they have until October to get all the financial stuff straightened out. Their time could be extended but from the looks of it they seem to take their deadlines seriously so they don't want old crap popping up that'll impact that. Seems reasonable to me.

Mani would be the one to know what might be in the court papers, so I guess it's a matter of seeing what she does next. From the sound of this, it could be anything, and ST is treasure hunting. Most of it they'll toss in the garbage and never say a word about it.

As for me, I've said before I could careless about how much money she got, if that's all it is. I already assumed she got a nice tidy sum, living the upper lifestyle rubbing shoulders with the elite in LA on your own dime ain't cheap. Them manicures/pedicures cost.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

LuxLove said:

Yes & what stuck with me were the reasons given for Bremners involvement. I don't like any of this one bit. I truly hope it's nothing.

What were the reasons given for Bremer's involvement?

My concern is that P's former attorneys, and the attorneys that went to Probate Court and said they had possible confidential information regarding heirs and other matters, represented Bremer at the Family Court hearing.

Protecting financial interest.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

morningsong said:

I got a better understanding. Still leery though.

From the sounds of it, it isn't about whether there was a will or not, they feel it is their civic duty, or something like that, to find these things out.

I say those that know exactly what's up, if they can't stop it, get in front of it, that's what "they" always say. Spin the hell out of it, everybody else is.

more or less said it is routine procedure for them; however, i don't buy that bc they have not gone after Mayte and her divorce records. and God i hope they don't!

i

[Edited 8/18/16 12:58pm]

I guess everybody already knows what happened with their marriage so who really cares about the itty bitty details, like who threw who's drink in whoevers face and crap like that. Save that foolishness for the books.

morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

What were the reasons given for Bremer's involvement?

My concern is that P's former attorneys, and the attorneys that went to Probate Court and said they had possible confidential information regarding heirs and other matters, represented Bremer at the Family Court hearing.

Protecting financial interest.

Morningsong, I suspect you're right. Chances are it might have gotten a little nasty, as divorces do sometimes, and BT sides with Mani that what's private should remain so for everyone's sake, hers and the estate. The general public has already written P off as a rock and roll drug addict (although one that may have gotten hooked because of physical pain) so they don't need anything else piling on to make it worse.

Originally, I thought the ST wanted the info P's divorce lawyers gave BT regarding possible heirs. In the end, they are probably just trying to milk this for all it's worth and now they can go after P in a way they couldn't when he was alive. Ugh.

In the end, I don't see how this could shed any light on how he died since nothing would be in the file from the last 5-8 years (depending on how much of the file they get). The finances shouldn't matter a whole lot either because they're not related to his finances when he died.

All this is going to do is create salacious gossip. Not worth it in my book but I guess we'll see.

[Edited 8/18/16 13:25pm]

morningsong said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

i

[Edited 8/18/16 12:58pm]

I guess everybody already knows what happened with their marriage so who really cares about the itty bitty details, like who threw who's drink in whoevers face and crap like that. Save that foolishness for the books.

And, honestly, maybe that Dr fellow is right that Mani is feisty, maybe feistier than Mayte was at the time of her divorce, so there might be more in her file to work with. But seriously...who cares?

And I really don't. I am like P when he said that he had no interest in Michael Jordan's marriage. Yep, I'd honestly rather not hear about P's.

nursev said:

perfume said:

It really is sad, an absolute disgrace.

I'm glad you brought this up...I hadn't really given it much though. Why should fans pay to show respect to Prince? We supported him and his family for 30 years but we gotta pay to go to the memorial? Sad

Exactly. That's the $300 million question I've been asking from jump.

perfume said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

perfume said:

nursev said:

perfume said: I'm glad you brought this up...I hadn't really given it much though. Why should fans pay to show respect to Prince? We supported him and his family for 30 years but we gotta pay to go to the memorial? Sad

Exactly. That's the $300 million question I've been asking from jump.

I get this, and I agree that the tickets shouldn't be much, but how on earth would P's family be able to have any kind of tribute, livestreaming online or on TV, with enough seats available to allow a large number of fans to attend in person, without charging? And with the estate tied up in probate? MJ's family has their own money, and they're wealthy. Same with Whitney's. But P's family are just normal people.

Even Spike Lee's street party cost money...and he has it so he could do that.

I do wish they'd done something early on, though, but I can't judge since I'd find it very hard to organize something like that.

I think fans need to do their own memorial, private or with others, if the tribute concert isn't their cup of tea.

nursev said:

perfume said:

Exactly. That's the $300 million question I've been asking from jump.

check out that thread about the family...it's all about this

Ok. Thx. :0)

teach49 said:

morningsong said:

Protecting financial interest.

Morningsong, I suspect you're right. Chances are it might have gotten a little nasty, as divorces do sometimes, and BT sides with Mani that what's private should remain so for everyone's sake, hers and the estate. The general public has already written P off as a rock and roll drug addict (although one that may have gotten hooked because of physical pain) so they don't need anything else piling on to make it worse.

Originally, I thought the ST wanted the info P's divorce lawyers gave BT regarding possible heirs. In the end, they are probably just trying to milk this for all it's worth and now they can go after P in a way they couldn't when he was alive. Ugh.

In the end, I don't see how this could shed any light on how he died since nothing would be in the file from the last 5-8 years (depending on how much of the file they get). The finances shouldn't matter a whole lot either because they're not related to his finances when he died.

All this is going to do is create salacious gossip. Not worth it in my book but I guess we'll see.

[Edited 8/18/16 13:25pm]

That's exactly how I feel on both points. Don't care about the pointless petty gossip of yesteryear. I want to know how we got to this point right here. How a supposedly careful, health conscious mofo ended up dead by, what looks like, not devoting all energy, time and resources to dealing with an immediate serious problem.

nursev said:

Whitneys family were far from wealthy. She had people like Aretha and Dionne but they're far from uber rich too.

Well, I didn't say one had to be uber rich, and I think it's safe to say that Aretha, Dionne, and even Whitney's own mother are wealthier than P's family. And Whitney had a will I believe so Bobby Kristina may have had access to funds. Then there's Bobby Brown. There is no one like any of those people in P's family. Just sayin...

teach49 said:

teach49 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

LuxLove said:

Yes & what stuck with me were the reasons given for Bremners involvement. I don't like any of this one bit. I truly hope it's nothing.

What were the reasons given for Bremer's involvement?

My concern is that P's former attorneys, and the attorneys that went to Probate Court and said they had possible confidential information regarding heirs and other matters, represented Bremer at the Family Court hearing.

Oh and I guess I might as well say what I really feel about potential children. There aren't any. If there is a trust set up for a child of Prince, I'm afraid that whoever it is, isn't capable of dealing with limelight that would be thrown at them and would need serious protection from the loons that can't wait to break off a piece. I'd prefer that person to stay hidden and the family deal with it in complete privacy.

[Edited 8/18/16 14:46pm]

NinaB said:

nursev said:

I got dibs on Babynoz as my lawyer

...& I'm next

Guurl....I'm getting too old for this fukree, (per Nina's spelling) looking forward to retirement,