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Reply #990 posted 08/18/16 9:54am

nursev

perfume said:



Militant said:


Prince wanted these documents to remain sealed. Bottom line. Unsealing these documents goes against what Prince wanted. Fact. Perhaps if the fanbase had understood this and showed some solidarity rather than tearing down a woman who they don't even know, Prince's wishes could have been adhered to. Sad day.




The fanbase bears no responsibility here. That's a reach, and an insult rolled into one. Actually, that's not true, these 'boogeyman' fans did provide the source of this woman's divorce settlement.



Solidarity is for this woman's friends and paid minions to worry about - those who DO have understanding and knowledge of this case, not the fans of her recently deceased iconic ex-husband.



Forums are places for folks to bandy about their opinions, that's ALL this is. She knows, she used to be one of us.








Amen
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Reply #991 posted 08/18/16 9:54am

ISaidLifeIsJus
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nelcp777 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Attorney work product would NOT be part of the Court files.

Then I do not understand how the divorce papers could put Prince in a negative light.

Thank you for answering my question. I guess in 30 days after objections (not appeals as I stated earlier) and redactions, we will see what could be so damning if the papers are unsealed.

The only negative informaton that I can think of that would be contained in the Court file is if there were depositions taken, and then the attorneys filed the depositions at Court. A lot of mud slinging goes on during depositions.

But the Judge's decision seemed to indicate otherwise (page 3) the ex filed for divorce, the parties requested a motion to seal the records, the parties engaged in negotiations, and a mediation which led to settlement. The Judge then adopted the Agreed Decree of Divorce which contained a confidentiality provision.

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Reply #992 posted 08/18/16 9:55am

perfume

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babynoz said:



Yeah, like some judge is hanging on every word of random posters on a messge board instead of case law and legal precedent.

Quite a stretch but not surprising when agenda is in play.

and it's definitely an agenda in all this. Someone is really stretching here to keep some major shit secret. Stooping so low as to bring fans in this...hell we can't even get a memorial til 6 months later.

That's not even a proper memorial when it's monetized. I've never paid to go to a service.

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Reply #993 posted 08/18/16 9:57am

nursev

perfume said:



nursev said:


babynoz said:




Yeah, like some judge is hanging on every word of random posters on a messge board instead of case law and legal precedent.

Quite a stretch but not surprising when agenda is in play.



and it's definitely an agenda in all this. Someone is really stretching here to keep some major shit secret. Stooping so low as to bring fans in this...hell we can't even get a memorial til 6 months later.


That's not even a proper memorial when it's monetized. I've never paid to go to a service.



So true and so sad at the same time.
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Reply #994 posted 08/18/16 9:58am

nelcp777

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

nelcp777 said:

Then I do not understand how the divorce papers could put Prince in a negative light.

Thank you for answering my question. I guess in 30 days after objections (not appeals as I stated earlier) and redactions, we will see what could be so damning if the papers are unsealed.

The only negative informaton that I can think of that would be contained in the Court file is if there were depositions taken, and then the attorneys filed the depositions at Court. A lot of mud slinging goes on during depositions.

But the Judge's decision seemed to indicate otherwise (page 3) the ex filed for divorce, the parties requested a motion to seal the records, the parties engaged in negotiations, and a mediation which led to settlement. The Judge then adopted the Agreed Decree of Divorce which contained a confidentiality provision.

Thanks again for the information.

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Reply #995 posted 08/18/16 9:59am

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nursev said:

malbena said:

Some of you orgers should turn into investigators smile



I got dibs on Babynoz as my lawyer lol

...& I'm next lol
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #996 posted 08/18/16 10:00am

nursev

NinaB said:

nursev said:



I got dibs on Babynoz as my lawyer lol

...& I'm next lol


highfive lol
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Reply #997 posted 08/18/16 10:02am

NinaB

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nursev said:

NinaB said:


...& I'm next lol


highfive lol

highfive nod
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #998 posted 08/18/16 10:03am

nursev

See people have seriously underestimated Prince's fan base. Most of us are very savvy and intelligent with more than one college degree or jobs that require us to be proactive and discern fuckery. That's why we're Prince's fans cuz he hated fuckery and we do too.
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Reply #999 posted 08/18/16 10:04am

Mkilpatrick74

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laurarichardson said:


-/-/ Minn is a no-fault divorce state so you do not have to put anything for a reason for divorce. He did not contest it do what would be in there? We know he used pain pills. We even saw pics of him riding around in the old person scooter back before they divorced so it appeared he had some mobility isssues. Not sure why we need to know his net worth from 10 years? Or what received in the divorce.

Sounds like she ran her mouth whilst vexed.


He keeps saying that something may have been said or "phrased" in a certain way in the papers. Hmmmmm
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Reply #1000 posted 08/18/16 10:04am

malbena

nursev said:

malbena said:

Some of you orgers should turn into investigators smile

I got dibs on Babynoz as my lawyer lol

lol

This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.
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Reply #1001 posted 08/18/16 10:04am

Genesia

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Militant said:

Prince wanted these documents to remain sealed. Bottom line. Unsealing these documents goes against what Prince wanted. Fact. Perhaps if the fanbase had understood this and showed some solidarity rather than tearing down a woman who they don't even know, Prince's wishes could have been adhered to. Sad day.


falloff

Right. Because American judges issue rulings based on rumor, innuendo and anonymous comments on an internet message board - rather than law and legal precedent.

Jesus. rolleyes lol

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #1002 posted 08/18/16 10:04am

nursev

And those people who are supposedly harassing this woman on FB are not true Prince fans...we'll just tell u to your face.
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Reply #1003 posted 08/18/16 10:05am

Mkilpatrick74

LBrent said:

Is this Dr guy a personal friend of Manuela?



I ask becase he sounds very evasive when discussing what may be revealed if the divorce documents are unsealed. He sounds as if he has personal knowledge of what is in those documents.



He was very guarded and protective of P.



I am thinking the exact same thing
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Reply #1004 posted 08/18/16 10:05am

nursev

Genesia said:



Militant said:


Prince wanted these documents to remain sealed. Bottom line. Unsealing these documents goes against what Prince wanted. Fact. Perhaps if the fanbase had understood this and showed some solidarity rather than tearing down a woman who they don't even know, Prince's wishes could have been adhered to. Sad day.


falloff



Right. Because American judges issue rulings based on rumor, innuendo and anonymous comments on an internet message board - rather than law and legal precedent.



Jesus. rolleyes lol



I love it
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Reply #1005 posted 08/18/16 10:06am

NinaB

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Mkilpatrick74 said:

NinaB said:


Sounds like she ran her mouth whilst vexed.


He keeps saying that something may have been said or "phrased" in a certain way in the papers. Hmmmmm

...or he's chatting rubbish again
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #1006 posted 08/18/16 10:08am

NinaB

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Mkilpatrick74 said:

LBrent said:

Is this Dr guy a personal friend of Manuela?



I ask becase he sounds very evasive when discussing what may be revealed if the divorce documents are unsealed. He sounds as if he has personal knowledge of what is in those documents.



He was very guarded and protective of P.



I am thinking the exact same thing

Just another hogger in a long line of hoggers...that P kept at arms length.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #1007 posted 08/18/16 10:10am

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NinaB said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:
He keeps saying that something may have been said or "phrased" in a certain way in the papers. Hmmmmm
...or he's chatting rubbish again

There is nothing in a Agreed Divorce Decree that would be phrased negatively. If there was, it wouldnt be "Agreed." An attorney would not allow their client to sign an Agreed Divorce Decree that dissed them, especially P's high priced lawyers. lol

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Reply #1008 posted 08/18/16 10:10am

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nursev said:

And those people who are supposedly harassing this woman on FB are not true Prince fans...we'll just tell u to your face.

Please, like I've got time. All I do on spies r us aka fb is look & save.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #1009 posted 08/18/16 10:12am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



NinaB said:


Mkilpatrick74 said:
He keeps saying that something may have been said or "phrased" in a certain way in the papers. Hmmmmm

...or he's chatting rubbish again

There is nothing in a Agreed Divorce Decree that would be phrased negatively. If there was, it wouldnt be "Agreed." An attorney would not allow their client to sign an Agreed Divorce Decree that dissed them, especially P's high priced lawyers. lol


Yeah, so I keep seeing. Lawd knows what all the fuss is about.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #1010 posted 08/18/16 10:13am

nursev

NinaB said:

nursev said:

And those people who are supposedly harassing this woman on FB are not true Prince fans...we'll just tell u to your face.

Please, like I've got time. All I do on spies r us aka fb is look & save.


I'm not on FB and anybody who has time for FB stalking is truly sad plus anybody who would bring those random folks up in a court.
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Reply #1011 posted 08/18/16 10:20am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



nelcp777 said:




ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




Attorney work product would NOT be part of the Court files.



Then I do not understand how the divorce papers could put Prince in a negative light.


Thank you for answering my question. I guess in 30 days after objections (not appeals as I stated earlier) and redactions, we will see what could be so damning if the papers are unsealed.



The only negative informaton that I can think of that would be contained in the Court file is if there were depositions taken, and then the attorneys filed the depositions at Court. A lot of mud slinging goes on during depositions.


But the Judge's decision seemed to indicate otherwise (page 3) the ex filed for divorce, the parties requested a motion to seal the records, the parties engaged in negotiations, and a mediation which led to settlement. The Judge then adopted the Agreed Decree of Divorce which contained a confidentiality provision.


That is another thing they used a mediator so what mudslinger went on. The point of using a mediator is to avoid all that and bring the marriage to end.
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Reply #1012 posted 08/18/16 10:26am

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NinaB said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



NinaB said:


Mkilpatrick74 said:
He keeps saying that something may have been said or "phrased" in a certain way in the papers. Hmmmmm

...or he's chatting rubbish again

There is nothing in a Agreed Divorce Decree that would be phrased negatively. If there was, it wouldnt be "Agreed." An attorney would not allow their client to sign an Agreed Divorce Decree that dissed them, especially P's high priced lawyers. lol


Yeah, so I keep seeing. Lawd knows what all the fuss is about.

//- Someone at ST must have some ax to grind. These files could say nothing and they are spending money and looking like fools. What editor would even be interested in a story that is not hot on the news wire and will piss off a lot of people in Minneapolis. This has to be from high up in that company.
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Reply #1013 posted 08/18/16 10:28am

wavesofbliss

has tamar said anything about the records being unsealed? if she was deposed there might be something in there about her, has she mentioned it?

[Edited 8/18/16 10:29am]

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Reply #1014 posted 08/18/16 10:32am

nursev

This lady really thinks that in this day and age that anything is private. It's only private when you have enough money to keep it private. Trying to use Prince fans as pawns to prove your case is low. She needs to stop cuz some of us work at court houses too. All your shit will mysteriously appear online lol As far as Tamar I actually liked her she was talented and seemed like a nice lady as opposed to the person this thread is about.
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Reply #1015 posted 08/18/16 10:35am

nursev

From reading this thread people already know most of the details anyway.
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Reply #1016 posted 08/18/16 10:39am

Mkilpatrick74

Purplestar88 said:



Militant said:


Prince wanted these documents to remain sealed. Bottom line. Unsealing these documents goes against what Prince wanted. Fact. Perhaps if the fanbase had understood this and showed some solidarity rather than tearing down a woman who they don't even know, Prince's wishes could have been adhered to. Sad day.

With all due respect I don't see anyone bashing her. People are just questioning her actions and statements while a very serouis case is going on to keep the file closed. People bash Prince here all the time and it is allowed. People don't know Prince but thay still bash and tear him down. She is being treated with kids gloves compare to how people have been handling Prince for many years. People are always criticizing Prince's actions and motivations on this site. Why should she be held to a different standard than Prince or anyone else that is disscuss here. I doubt this site has any bearings on the judge's decision. I think this unsealed divorce record thing is just maddness. There is no reson to unseal the file but in my opinion it is unfair to blame some of the fanbase for what is happening becuase they did not "stand" with her. The blame needs to be put on St and judge for entertaining opening a 10 year old file in the first place. I really wish her the best in this case because what they are doing is not right and I don't care what is in that file. If somthing is sealed it should stay that way.Why do they say you can have a file sealed if anybody can resquest to open it.



I agree. The fact is that no amount of solidarity from us as fans can change the law. The law is the law and the judge ruled accordingly. Cited many past rulings to back up those laws as well.
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Reply #1017 posted 08/18/16 10:42am

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The reporters who wrote the story for ST were interviewed by MPR News. They even admit that it may be nothing of interest in file. Still a shady move on their part. https://www.mprnews.org/s...nce-estate
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Reply #1018 posted 08/18/16 10:43am

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

NinaB said:

Mkilpatrick74 said: ...or he's chatting rubbish again

There is nothing in a Agreed Divorce Decree that would be phrased negatively. If there was, it wouldnt be "Agreed." An attorney would not allow their client to sign an Agreed Divorce Decree that dissed them, especially P's high priced lawyers. lol



You're working so hard trying to answer people's questions. I don't have one, this time.


Seems like it's moot now anyway, in approx 30 days we'll know for sure. I feel really bad about it though.

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Reply #1019 posted 08/18/16 10:44am

perfume

nursev said:

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That's not even a proper memorial when it's monetized. I've never paid to go to a service.

So true and so sad at the same time.

It really is sad, an absolute disgrace.

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