LuxLove said:

morningsong said:

CROWNS1 said:

He seemed to know some stuff but the part starting "I'm sure" (around 17 mins) seemed to be his speculation. He could have done without that bit. (I know I am one to talk - I wanted them stop it and I added to it and made it worse - sorry again ).

He also said LRC came out exactly the same time as MJ's BI as a first on MTV but I remember 1999 first (that vid was the reason I first really 'noticed' P. I didn't see the LRC one until some time later as it was similar but I liked it better - he was less aggressive/angry looking in that one (I was only 12).

Militant said:

Prince wanted these documents to remain sealed. Bottom line. Unsealing these documents goes against what Prince wanted. Fact. Perhaps if the fanbase had understood this and showed some solidarity rather than tearing down a woman who they don't even know, Prince's wishes could have been adhered to. Sad day.

With all due respect I don't see anyone bashing her. People are just questioning her actions and statements while a very serouis case is going on to keep the file closed. People bash Prince here all the time and it is allowed. People don't know Prince but thay still bash and tear him down. She is being treated with kids gloves compare to how people have been handling Prince for many years. People are always criticizing Prince's actions and motivations on this site. Why should she be held to a different standard than Prince or anyone else that is disscuss here. I doubt this site has any bearings on the judge's decision. I think this unsealed divorce record thing is just maddness. There is no reson to unseal the file but in my opinion it is unfair to blame some of the fanbase for what is happening becuase they did not "stand" with her. The blame needs to be put on St and judge for entertaining opening a 10 year old file in the first place. I really wish her the best in this case because what they are doing is not right and I don't care what is in that file. If somthing is sealed it should stay that way.Why do they say you can have a file sealed if anybody can resquest to open it.

I think it's a bit over the top to be blaming 'fans' for the ST going after P's divorce papers. People who read tabloids will buy them whether they are 'fans' or not, depending on how salacious the article looks while you are standing in line at the check out. Prince's music was a direct reflection of what was going on in his life at any given time, so it's only natural that his relationships are discussed. After all, he did put it all out there in his music.

[Edited 8/18/16 6:10am]

NinaB said:

did prince ever consider adoption? millions of people that can not have biologic kids go this route and it would have been such a great thing all around. who know what would have happened if he had had grown children of his own on april 21, a good possibility april 21 would have come and gone like any other day.

NinaB said:

I think his later partners weren't as intelligent, or had as much personality/spunk as the earlier ones. I'm thinking of Susan, Jill, Sheila, Troy, Susannah, Vanity etc. I remember Alan Leeds also spoke on that change. Somewhere around 88-90 there was a change. Also in how he treated the post Rev band members & staff/team, kept more at arms length. I saw Mayte up close back in the day, there was a vain, bratty element. All the talk of her being his true love etc baffles me tbh. There were plenty other women in the stable right up 2 the marriage, which she knew about (She did what she was told. Whole scene with the 2 of them was a bit weird at the time actually). Then within aprox 2 yrs of marriage, or less, there's other women again. Another thing peep don't mention often is Mani was on the scene during his parents last years & when they passed... Another profound change took place after they died 6 months apart. [Edited 8/17/16 21:51pm]

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i agree completely. when i say such things i'm attacked. but it's all too clear to those who pay attention.

wavesofbliss said:

Purplestar88 said:

With all due respect I don't see anyone bashing her. People are just questioning her actions and statements while a very serouis case is going on to keep the file closed. People bash Prince here all the time and it is allowed. People don't know Prince but thay still bash and tear him down. She is being treated with kids gloves compare to how people have been handling Prince for many years. People are always criticizing Prince's actions and motivations on this site. Why should she be held to a different standard than Prince or anyone else that is disscuss here. I doubt this site has any bearings on the judge's decision. I think this unsealed divorce record thing is just maddness. There is no reson to unseal the file but in my opinion it is unfair to blame some of the fanbase for what is happening becuase they did not "stand" with her. The blame needs to be put on St and judge for entertaining opening a 10 year old file in the first place. I really wish her the best in this case because what they are doing is not right and I don't care what is in that file. If somthing is sealed it should stay that way.Why do they say you can have a file sealed if anybody can resquest to open it.

x100

deerpath said:

re mayte and carmen

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i was in and out of mn, from 92-95. i met and talked with some people @ PP who said that both carmen and mayte and some other woman all did the same thing that Sheila was known for doing which was to strut around like they owned the place if they were in his bed, but if they weren't they were sweeter and more humble and more approachable. all of them(people i talked to) said that they liked robin because she was so street and kept it 100 but that they were surprised that she was around as long as she was bcos she was SO ghetto AND was fucking someon else while she was with P. both of those things were known as no-nos with P. the people i talked to guessed it was all about that kitty.

CROWNS1 said:

NinaB said:

CROWNS1 said:

I think it's a bit over the top to be blaming 'fans' for the ST going after P's divorce papers. People who read tabloids will buy them whether they are 'fans' or not, depending on how salacious the article looks while you are standing in line at the check out. Prince's music was a direct reflection of what was going on in his life at any given time, so it's only natural that his relationships are discussed. After all, he did put it all out there in his music.

[Edited 8/18/16 6:10am]

...Not just over the top, it's ludicrous & makes zero sense.

It also smacks of hypocrisy when those same surrogates who get pissy and whine about the ST digging for dirt, but dingleberry can run his mouth and spread all manner of heresay and somehow it's okay because his word is gospel? No one sees anything wrong with that?

I was through with that guy when he insisted that all was well after the plane incident and tried to chastise us for being concerned.

babynoz said:

My impression is that unless Prince released information in his way, he wanted everything else private (sealed). I am in agreement with Militant.

However, with Prince's passing and currently with no one in charge of Prince's affairs, we may see more of this type of information leaked.

I do not believe many of his innter circle, both past or present, will begin releasing books and tell alls. In time, we will see Prince's true and dearest friends by those who talk and those who don't.

I think the Tribune is fishing for any story, not a certain story. Prince has been private and his privacy was strong. Minimal dirt was available. Now, reporters, not all, are trying to get the inside of Prince's very private life. The Tribune has the best shot, being local. I do not agree with it, but it is what it is.

As for Mrs. Benet and her reasoning for wanting the documents sealed. I can only speculate. I have a vibe her wanting the documents to remain sealed is more for her benefit than Prince's. Never met the woman, just a vibe. The actual divorce decreee may not have useful or damaging information. The working papers may be another story.

This leads me to a question, since the divorce papers are to be unsealed, pending appeals, with only the decree be unsealed or the working papers as well? I do not believe the working papers are submitted with the divorce decree, but I can be wrong. If the working papers are not released, then in my opinion, the only real information obtained will be why the divorce happend (irreconcilable difference, etc) and maybe the settlement amounts.

LuxLove said:

Tamar was interviewed by lawyers as part of the divorce.

Aha!

Mani filed for divorce a couple days before Prince (with Tamar and the Twinz) played the Empire in Las Vegas. I was there that weekend and remarked to a few people how Tamar did not seem as bright and bubbly as she had when I saw the Tamar show at the Orpheum in Minneapolis in February. After those Empire shows, they did the GMA TV appearance and Tamar was gone after that.

I always wondered if Mani hadn't made some sort of allegation regarding her. If Tamar had already been interviewed/deposed - or had received a summons - that would definitely account for her demeanor. And make her quick departure a lot more understandable.

The timing of the shuttering of the NPGMC makes a lot more sense, too. I'm sure Prince didn't want people discussing his divorce in his own living room.

Genesia said:

TPTB try to control the narrative on here through certain people but folks need to be reminded over and over and over that the ONLY thing that matters is what the judge says and does with the information he was given, period.

It also bears repeating over and over that sealed files ARE NOT THE NORM in the American judicial system.....they are the EXCEPTION.....ask Bill Cosby. Like it or not, the judge relied on solid case law and legal precedent, and no thought would have been given to what we on the org want or think, period, end of.

Read. The. Order!

For example, I did not think the file would be unsealed at all and it still hasn't because they have 30 days to file objections, (not appeals ), plus the judge will also hear requests for redactions, so this unsealing is not at all unconditional and I still don't expect a lot of the file to see the light of day.

The thing is that anybody with two brain cells to rub together does NOT plead their case and settle their scores on social media or appear on reality shows if they truly value their privacy and wish to be left alone.

I personally don't need to know anybody's divorce details and the less revealed the better, however grown folks understand that there is a downside to loving the red carpet.

NinaB said:

...soon come the delete, right? Poof! & it's ALL gone. Not even edited posts, just wipe out the whole thing right?!

Screen shots cant' be deleted....

babynoz said:

babynoz said:

NinaB said:

babynoz said:

It also smacks of hypocrisy when those same surrogates who get pissy and whine about the ST digging for dirt, but dingleberry can run his mouth and spread all manner of heresay and somehow it's okay because his word is gospel? No one sees anything wrong with that?

I was through with that guy when he insisted that all was well after the plane incident and tried to chastise us for being concerned.

Joke business. Cringe. As 4 Dingleberry, I can't, I only listened 2 him once, that was enuf.

Can't stomach the fuckery.

nelcp777 said:

My impression is that unless Prince released information in his way, he wanted everything else private (sealed). I am in agreement with Militant.

However, with Prince's passing and currently with no one in charge of Prince's affairs, we may see more of this type of information leaked.

I do not believe many of his innter circle, both past or present, will begin releasing books and tell alls. In time, we will see Prince's true and dearest friends by those who talk and those who don't.

I think the Tribune is fishing for any story, not a certain story. Prince has been private and his privacy was strong. Minimal dirt was available. Now, reporters, not all, are trying to get the inside of Prince's very private life. The Tribune has the best shot, being local. I do not agree with it, but it is what it is.

As for Mrs. Benet and her reasoning for wanting the documents sealed. I can only speculate. I have a vibe her wanting the documents to remain sealed is more for her benefit than Prince's. Never met the woman, just a vibe. The actual divorce decreee may not have useful or damaging information. The working papers may be another story.

This leads me to a question, since the divorce papers are to be unsealed, pending appeals, with only the decree be unsealed or the working papers as well? I do not believe the working papers are submitted with the divorce decree, but I can be wrong. If the working papers are not released, then in my opinion, the only real information obtained will be why the divorce happend (irreconcilable difference, etc) and maybe the settlement amounts.

Attorney work product would NOT be part of the Court files.

babynoz said:

babynoz said:

NinaB said:

CROWNS1 said: ...Not just over the top, it's ludicrous & makes zero sense.

It also smacks of hypocrisy when those same surrogates who get pissy and whine about the ST digging for dirt, but dingleberry can run his mouth and spread all manner of heresay and somehow it's okay because his word is gospel? No one sees anything wrong with that?

I was through with that guy when he insisted that all was well after the plane incident and tried to chastise us for being concerned.

I agree with what you're saying about him running his mouth. He is spilling a lot more tea than he ever did when Prince was here. We all know what Prince would make of that (let's never forget the "bombshell" story tweet!).

With the plane landing though he said he was told everything was fine & "he was lied to too," but to be honest his story has changed on a few things so who knows.

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