CMSantos71 said:

XxAxX said:

we at the ORG are right, smack in the middle of this issue.

the judge denied ms. testolini's motion in part on the basis that stale financials were hardly likely to cause her suffering and harassment. pointing out that she hardly steers clear of the public eye.

but she filed an affidavit which allegedly claims online forums such as this one affect her and her family somehow.

now, the public access online court nelson-testolini divorce file reaches from 2006 through 2010 during which time it looks like at least two certificates of dissolution were issued. so it was not an uncomplicated divorce.

whatever information is in there, the court has given ms. testolini one month during which time she can file more motion papers moving the Court on the basis of her claims and arguments, and hopefully persuading said court to keep the file sealed

imo, arguments supporting a continuing seal on the file were pretty weak, but maybe her attys will come up with something better. to whit:

IF THE ORG CONTINUES TO BASH MANI - RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW 20 PAGES?? - FOR REASONS RELATING TO HER PAST DIVORCE, AND IF IN FACT WE LIVE UP TO THE WAY SHE HAS PRESENTED US IN COURT, AND IF SHE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT ELEMENT OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS /PTSD SHE MAY BE CLAIMING, THEN THE COURT MIGHT GRANT HER MOTION.

THE ORG AND COMMENTS HERE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE MS. T'S CASE

think of it. us fans having an actual affect on the outcome.... maybe we should steer clear of discussing this subject here at this website, now that we know ms. testolini is inclined to present websites and rambling speculation of fans like this to the court as 'damaging'.

just a thought

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I see your point but why come here on purpose to read what we have to say about her? She is causing her own emotional distress, not us. Stay off the org if you don't want your feelers hurt...just my honest opinion.

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These are two of the strongest points supporting both sides in the case. One preventing orgers to provide attack and the other one supporting the argument is irrelevant. I would say keep on expressing your opinion existing dislike of the individual and reasons why while making sure the critics do not lead to threats or others helping her case.

laurarichardson said:

nursev said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

nursev said:

PliablyPurple said:

I'd guess that if the first thing that pops into your mind when you hear the word "Prince" is that he died from an overdose, then you probably weren't much of a fan anyway. While I do want to know the circumstances of his death, my having that knowledge will never be how I remember Prince. I will remember and celebrate him for what he gave me over the years. And that will always be my last rememberance of Prince.

The average person who wasn't a Prince fan believes this and that is sad. He was more than just another rock star who overdosed. The people who allowed that and spun that knew what they were doing. So say what you want...I see the truth.

Yeah, I agree with you and share your thought that something else was going on. His death wasn't a cliche rockstar burning out on drugs, that I am convinced of. I guess that after years of hearing people talk about Prince as an afterthought, as someone who they didn't really recognize as a great talent, I just can't get too worked up over what they now think of Prince in death.

PliablyPurple said:

Kinda confused as to how message board posts could be considered harassment, which by definition is 'active pressure or intimidation'. If this ex-wife in question knows what's being said on various forums, it's because she actively seeks to find out, not because anyone is threatening her.

If you're bad enough to snatch him from his wife, be bad enough to roll with all that comes with it - the diamonds AND the doghouse. Just sayin'.

nursev said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

Absolutely!!!

While waiting I'm gonna head to memorial thread I am just now seeing pics from the friends memorial and it looks like they did a beautiful job! I pray I get a ticket for the tribute in Oct!

I hope you do too

PliablyPurple said:

Mkilpatrick74 said:

nursev said:

I hope you do too

Are u gonna try and go also??? There are awesome ideas over there about us all getting together

nursev said:

rogifan said:

No kidding. Pretty soon some stupid tabloid will have Prince was a wife beater stories because they misread something snooping on the org.

I was responding to the orger that mentioned short guys hitting women. Some of y'all like to make shit up where there isn't any.

Mani did not get a large settlement. That information as been out for years and is easily discoverable. That is not what she is trying to hide.

1contessa said:

AA1slot said:

LBrent said:

AA1slot said:

I would like to know as well. Was watching YT video from a P&M tour from earlier this year, not Atlanta, and people were commenting on there how thin and frail he was. Shoulder blades showing through his shirt, etc. Something wasn't right. Will never believe he was a junkie. Ill yes, junkie no. Don't believe one gets to look like that from drug addiction in such a short time...just saying...not starting something. Will still hold him in highest regard/love whereever the chips fall.

Amen and amen. It did make me feel a little bit better when both SheilaE and Lenny Kravitz mentioned that as soon as they heard that P had passed away, they knew what had happened. Even if I never know exactly what happened, I will be able to get closure knowing that his loved ones know exactly what happened to him. I just don't want everyone, including his loved ones, to be in the dark.

But then again, if anyone recalls, when Prince died, Sheila E was videod heading to Minnesota when it happened, saying that she wanted to know the truth and find out what happened and why he died, so how can she say that she knew what happened as soon as she heard? Also, Lenny Kratvitz states that he has an idea why he passed, but nothing else, just leaving it like that.......that doesn't help! In fact that adds to the secrecy!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

perfume said:

Kinda confused as to how message board posts could be considered harassment, which by definition is 'active pressure or intimidation'. If this ex-wife in question knows what's being said on various forums, it's because she actively seeks to find out, not because anyone is threatening her.

If you're bad enough to snatch him from his wife, be bad enough to roll with all that comes with it - the diamonds AND the doghouse. Just sayin'.

People from here (and I'm sure elsewhere) are on her Facebook Pages, especially those who don't like her. There's a little bit of org evidence of this. Gawd only knows what they are posting over on her page.

nursev said:

ABSOLUTELY!

HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!


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morningsong said:

BillieBalloon said:

morningsong said:

People from here (and I'm sure elsewhere) are on her Facebook Pages, especially those who don't like her. There's a little bit of org evidence of this. Gawd only knows what they are posting over on her page.

She could also argue that she should be free to peruse this site without fear of harassment. After all, it's a Prince fan site and if she doesn't come her because of intimidation or whatever she can make that point to back up her argument.

It was just a guess. Honestly, if she has suffered PTSD then I'm sure other stressful things can trigger a relapse, and I'm sure some people would like to try and see if they can do it.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

XxAxX said:

we at the ORG are right, smack in the middle of this issue.

the judge denied ms. testolini's motion in part on the basis that stale financials were hardly likely to cause her suffering and harassment. pointing out that she hardly steers clear of the public eye.

but she filed an affidavit which allegedly claims online forums such as this one affect her and her family somehow.

now, the public access online court nelson-testolini divorce file reaches from 2006 through 2010 during which time it looks like at least two certificates of dissolution were issued. so it was not an uncomplicated divorce.

whatever information is in there, the court has given ms. testolini one month during which time she can file more motion papers moving the Court on the basis of her claims and arguments, and hopefully persuading said court to keep the file sealed

imo, arguments supporting a continuing seal on the file were pretty weak, but maybe her attys will come up with something better. to whit:

IF THE ORG CONTINUES TO BASH MANI - RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW 20 PAGES?? - FOR REASONS RELATING TO HER PAST DIVORCE, AND IF IN FACT WE LIVE UP TO THE WAY SHE HAS PRESENTED US IN COURT, AND IF SHE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT ELEMENT OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS /PTSD SHE MAY BE CLAIMING, THEN THE COURT MIGHT GRANT HER MOTION.

THE ORG AND COMMENTS HERE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE MS. T'S CASE

think of it. us fans having an actual affect on the outcome.... maybe we should steer clear of discussing this subject here at this website, now that we know ms. testolini is inclined to present websites and rambling speculation of fans like this to the court as 'damaging'.

just a thought

[Edited 8/17/16 10:54am]

This is seriously part of her defense? I haven't been keeping up with this as I'm not fond of this woman and I see this as nothing more than an attempt 2 not protect P so much as herself, due 2 some pretty unsavory details that would prove what a lot of suspect about her.

I don't particularly want the records 2 be released 4 the sake of P's privacy but, with her fighting this so hard and the "Waaah they're being mean 2 me online!" is part of a legal strategy she needs 2 get her big girl panties on and prepare 4 what may happen then. She wanted the divorce, well she got it and ALL that goes with it. If that is indeed part of her defense she's scrambling 2 cover her own ass IMO.

To the rest of the world Prince's death, albeit tragic, was another rock and roll death. The world just rolled its collective eyes and went on about its businesses. For us, who have followed his work and life for decades, too many things just don't make sense.

BillieBalloon said:

morningsong said:

It was just a guess. Honestly, if she has suffered PTSD then I'm sure other stressful things can trigger a relapse, and I'm sure some people would like to try and see if they can do it.

Has she actually said that social media sites and others trigger her PTSD?

That specifically no. In her court papers her lawyers did argue about being harrassed and iirc social media was mentioned. There may be an appeal coming in up. Who knows what's going to be said. Heck the last time all this came up, last week, it was swore up and down that the judge wasn't likely grant ST access to their divorce papers, and surprise, surprise he did. Nobody can say what strategy will be used by either side. I'm just watching, with a bit of commentary to keep from getting bored.

I love the part when he says "let's skate" .

nursev said:

do you really believe that the man who wrote all those songs in that memorial booklet was so messed up that he just kept taking pain Meds/fentanyl until it killed him?

So what do you think happened to him? What kinda illness did he have do you think he had?