babynoz said:

FUNKNROLL said:

nursev said:

And before y'all say I'm name calling and hating...it ain't no secret that I can't stand her ass. Damn I wish Prince would've saw this woman for what she really was.

He married her on the rebound, so he probably was not thinking clearly.

Menes said:

RainbowGranny said:

The Trust acting on behalf of Prince's Estate and Mani do NOT want the divorce agreement made public. The media has filed on behalf of the public (as in ....the public has a right to know).

Whatever happens, I'm sure everyone will be very pleased when everything is hashed, thoroughly rehashed and finally resolved.

Who knows, there may be future twists and turns before the heirs get their inheritance.

[Edited 8/16/16 16:45pm]

But who is the petitioner? what is she petitioning?

1. Tyka ( thru Bremer) wanted to know what H&E business dealings were with Prince because there was no personal administrator.

2.She had to get a petition to get them( Bremer) to be the temporary administrator of the estate. In other words , she had very little choice. That will soon be withdrawn. What does she do then?

3.The twist is that when Bremer started unveiling additonal assets (thru H&E) and the heirs started coming forward ,there were other interested parties ( the public) that were not privy to what the trust wanted to disclose and not disclose. Tyak doesnt want a disclosure about his death , and neither does Bremer. However, thats an entirely different matter from Prince's financial records.

4.Tyka may not want to unveil what Prince may had a probelm with or died from but I can guarantee you she's not upset to know that a financial accounting during the marriage to Manuela may shed some light on the assets.

5.Bremer( Tyka) and Testollini can request to seal anything they want to.

6. Bremer(Tyka) would be objecting to whether or not he used pain killers . Manuela can to. This wont hurt his legacy one bit.

7. Bremer (Tyka) would not object to finding out if they were potential heirs that he may have sired during the marriage ( with someone else). They are already doing that. Manuela stands to lose nothing from Prince siring a child somewhere else.

8. Bremer (Tyka) would not object to finding out the true value of his estate at the time of the marriage. Why would Manuela not object to this? I would!

10. Do you believe they( Bremer and Tyka) do not want to know if she had assets with him ? Why would the special administrator not want to know where all of his assets are? Do you believe its just the Star Tribune that is behind this simply to find out if he was an addict and nothing more? If so, why do they want to find out the value of his estate at the time of the divorce? What would be the relevance of that, unless someone else wants to know?

11. Why not find out about Mayte and the value of the estate at the time of the divorce form her? She's not suspected of anything.

nursev said:

teach49 said:

I understand that people don't like Manuela for whatever reason. But personally I don't believe the Strib cares one lick about her. This is about Prince. They are digging into Prince's past, not hers. Info about her that they find is just happenstance becasue she was married to him. She is not famous outside of Prince fans (pretty diehard Prince fans at that). Whatever she got from him 10 years ago is just not newsworthy and not worth the price of their lawyer's fees.

And one charity can, in fact, donate money to another if said charity is closing up shop. I've been on the board of a non-profit that did just that. It's legal. If that's what happened.

I'm not defending her. His marriage to her ended long ago and P had moved on, whatever he thought about her in the end.

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[Edited 8/16/16 14:49pm]

I have no issues with people who like or want to defend her...I don't care about her enough to care. My thing is this if this leads to Prince's fans actually knowing the truth about what really happened to him then so be it. So far all we've Got are bits and pieces that don't add up and shit i don believe. Prince's fans have really been ignored in all this and to me that's wrong. We supported him and his family for 30 years. I really believe it's about the money though.

Yip yip.

Damn! You all throwing Tyka under the bus now. Maybe not intentionally but putting her name in it, I can just see how this will spin all out of control with innuendos and speculations. All in good gossip I guess.

Menes said:

morningsong said:

morningsong said:

???

What's this got to do with somebody's divorce papers being made public?

Unless you're trying to show that Tyka is the one who suggest Bremer in the first place.


And that Bremer is the one that is standing in the courtroom with Mani.


???


There seems to be a schism here, I don't get at all.

I'm right there with you morningsong. And I don't see how unsealing the files is going to show that Mani somehow scammed P. You have to dot every i and cross every t for those files. Trust me, my ex-BIL tried to scam my sister out of far less than 12 mil and the judge caught it immediately and sanctioned him. And, he tried to scam his own lawyer...another sanction.

I mean, we may find out that P gave her money and some people might not like that, but how is that newsworthy?

I do think the Strib wants to know about the possible heir info. It could be absolutely nothing but they do want to know that.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

zoso1978 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: So from your earlier post, is this about possible heirs or money? Or both?

I cant fathom a scenario where drugs would be mentioned in the divorce Court file. Maybe in the ex-wife's attorney's file but not the Court file. Even if there was a mention of drugs, why would the ST care? Everyone knows P's cause of death.

They are after something else.

I would like to know the rationale how these attorneys that use to represent Prince are representing Bremer Trust in the divorce case. Sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

They told the Judge in the Probate case they had confidential information, and now they are fighting along side the ex-wife to keep it a secret?

Yeah, that's weird.

morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I cant fathom a scenario where drugs would be mentioned in the divorce Court file. Maybe in the ex-wife's attorney's file but not the Court file. Even if there was a mention of drugs, why would the ST care? Everyone knows P's cause of death.

They are after something else.

I would like to know the rationale how these attorneys that use to represent Prince are representing Bremer Trust in the divorce case. Sounds like a conflict of interest to me.

They told the Judge in the Probate case they had confidential information, and now they are fighting along side the ex-wife to keep it a secret?

It would give them a timeline. If he was in such a state of prescription use enough to warrant a divorce then it shows it's been going on for a very long time, long before 2006. I'm sure it can be spun well enough to hurt the estate. This isn't coming from an investigation this is coming for more a tabloid-ish slant. But it's been seen right here on this thread the public wants it all to come out and they will be obliged.

Yep.

This isn't a part of the death investigation at all. We've heard diddly-squat about that since the ME's report.

nursev said:

RainbowGranny said:

Menes said:

But who is the petitioner? what is she petitioning?

In a separate order, it looks like Tyka had a petition for Prince's former lawyers to turn over any information that might determine any other potential heirs. To me, it looks like Tyka's petition was completely separate and apart from the newspaper looking at Mani's divorce papers.

Thanks for clearing that up. I think things are getting conflated in all the speculationn.

BillieBalloon said:

FUNKNROLL said:

. I can't figure out what is going on. Would some generous soul please post a summary of what is going on or PM me with details? I never followed the relationships. Thank you for your time. [Edited 8/16/16 17:17pm] . [Edited 8/16/16 17:17pm]

The charity money that hasn't been accounted for. They're auditing Prince's assets so that they can be divided up amongst the heirs. You have to know how much there is to divide it fairly. That's what I think anyway. Now Nurse or Babynoz is going to tell me I'm completely wrong probably I still don't get why Bremner Trust what to conceal info. I don't know, this threads making my bloody head spin.

Do we really know the chariy money hasn't been accounted for? The public and the newspaper do not have all of P's financial files, right? Or did I miss something somewhere?

teach49 said:

RainbowGranny said:

In a separate order, it looks like Tyka had a petition for Prince's former lawyers to turn over any information that might determine any other potential heirs. To me, it looks like Tyka's petition was completely separate and apart from the newspaper looking at Mani's divorce papers.

Thanks for clearing that up. I think things are getting conflated in all the speculationn.

I have no idea what document RainbowGranny is talking about. There is no such document.

teach49 said:

morningsong said:

Unless you're trying to show that Tyka is the one who suggest Bremer in the first place.


And that Bremer is the one that is standing in the courtroom with Mani.


???


There seems to be a schism here, I don't get at all.

I'm right there with you morningsong. And I don't see how unsealing the files is going to show that Mani somehow scammed P. You have to dot every i and cross every t for those files. Trust me, my ex-BIL tried to scam my sister out of far less than 12 mil and the judge caught it immediately and sanctioned him. And, he tried to scam his own lawyer...another sanction.

I mean, we may find out that P gave her money and some people might not like that, but how is that newsworthy?

I do think the Strib wants to know about the possible heir info. It could be absolutely nothing but they do want to know that.

Honestly, I don't think it's even a matter if Mani "scammed" Prince, people just want to know what she got. The ST could give a woot about what it is they find, I keep saying they are looking for anything and everything, they've just said it basically, it does not matter what it is. They are a newpaper in the business of selling newpapers. If the public wants to know stuff, they don't care what it is or how relevant it is, it's about selling the papers or getting the clicks on some site. People want blood they'll give it to them. It's become a feeding frenzy. Kind of painful to watch actually.

Perhaps Mani should have followed Eric's advice, but it's too late now., the die have been cast and this has got to play out. I'm afraid nobody could shut it down like Prince.

teach49 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

teach49 said:

Thanks for clearing that up. I think things are getting conflated in all the speculationn.

I have no idea what document RainbowGranny is talking about. There is no such document.

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BillieBalloon said:

Only from what I've read on this thread. Otherwise I have no idea . Somebody put it out there and I can't remember who. In fact, right now I think I've evem forgotten where I am. We should get Mrs Marple to investigate everything that's been said on this thread. Or Colombo, remember him? [Edited 8/16/16 18:08pm]

Are they gonna to the same with Mayte divorce from Prince as well?

Menes said:

morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I have no idea what document RainbowGranny is talking about. There is no such document.

7/6/2016 4:49 PM Scanned ...nistration

Thats not Tyka! Thats the Probate Case not the Divorce case.

Two separate Judges, and two separate Courts. It was Bremer Trust who told the Probate Court Judge they had no problem waiving attorney/client privilege in order to obtain the information from P's former attorneys.

I want you all to know the ex-wife presented to the Judge copies of message-board posts and comments posted in the immediate aftermath of her divorce.

You know which message board comments she is talking about, eh?

You are now all part of the court record!

If even 10% of this istrue M better lawyer up.(with her own lawyer)

[Edited 8/17/16 6:05am]

Menes said:

Menes said:

But who is the petitioner? what is she petitioning?

1. Tyka ( thru Bremer) wanted to know what H&E business dealings were with Prince because there was no personal administrator.

2.She had to get a petition to get them( Bremer) to be the temporary administrator of the estate. In other words , she had very little choice. That will soon be withdrawn. What does she do then?

3.The twist is that when Bremer started unveiling additonal assets (thru H&E) and the heirs started coming forward ,there were other interested parties ( the public) that were not privy to what the trust wanted to disclose and not disclose. Tyak doesnt want a disclosure about his death , and neither does Bremer. However, thats an entirely different matter from Prince's financial records.

4.Tyka may not want to unveil what Prince may had a probelm with or died from but I can guarantee you she's not upset to know that a financial accounting during the marriage to Manuela may shed some light on the assets.

5.Bremer( Tyka) and Testollini can request to seal anything they want to.

6. Bremer(Tyka) would be objecting to whether or not he used pain killers . Manuela can to. This wont hurt his legacy one bit.

7. Bremer (Tyka) would not object to finding out if they were potential heirs that he may have sired during the marriage ( with someone else). They are already doing that. Manuela stands to lose nothing from Prince siring a child somewhere else.

8. Bremer (Tyka) would not object to finding out the true value of his estate at the time of the marriage. Why would Manuela not object to this? I would!

10. Do you believe they( Bremer and Tyka) do not want to know if she had assets with him ? Why would the special administrator not want to know where all of his assets are? Do you believe its just the Star Tribune that is behind this simply to find out if he was an addict and nothing more? If so, why do they want to find out the value of his estate at the time of the divorce? What would be the relevance of that, unless someone else wants to know?

11. Why not find out about Mayte and the value of the estate at the time of the divorce form her? She's not suspected of anything.

Wait wait wait. Who suspects Mani of anything? The Strib? Yes, I suspected they're looking for more than drugs in the files but where's the evidence that they suspect Mani of something? And the newspaper isn't law enforcement?

I'm baffled.

Prince wasn't stupid and he wasn't some elderly person not in possession of his faculties.

morningsong said:

Perhaps Mani should have followed Eric's advice, but it's too late now., the die have been cast and this has got to play out. I'm afraid nobody could shut it down like Prince.

what advice did eric have for her? i haven't heard a peep from him.

wavesofbliss said:

morningsong said:

Perhaps Mani should have followed Eric's advice, but it's too late now., the die have been cast and this has got to play out. I'm afraid nobody could shut it down like Prince.

what advice did eric have for her? i haven't heard a peep from him.

Exactly.

No, it wasn't advice he gave directly to her, but something he said in an interview. Along the lines of keeping ones mouth shut about the ex.

BillieBalloon said:

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What the heck is this?

morningsong said:

teach49 said:

I'm right there with you morningsong. And I don't see how unsealing the files is going to show that Mani somehow scammed P. You have to dot every i and cross every t for those files. Trust me, my ex-BIL tried to scam my sister out of far less than 12 mil and the judge caught it immediately and sanctioned him. And, he tried to scam his own lawyer...another sanction.

I mean, we may find out that P gave her money and some people might not like that, but how is that newsworthy?

I do think the Strib wants to know about the possible heir info. It could be absolutely nothing but they do want to know that.

Honestly, I don't think it's even a matter if Mani "scammed" Prince, people just want to know what she got. The ST could give a woot about what it is they find, I keep saying they are looking for anything and everything, they've just said it basically, it does not matter what it is. They are a newpaper in the business of selling newpapers. If the public wants to know stuff, they don't care what it is or how relevant it is, it's about selling the papers or getting the clicks on some site. People want blood they'll give it to them. It's become a feeding frenzy. Kind of painful to watch actually.

Perhaps Mani should have followed Eric's advice, but it's too late now., the die have been cast and this has got to play out. I'm afraid nobody could shut it down like Prince.

You have a point here, especially with the ST. My gut says that this has to do with the work product that P's lawyers wanted to give Bremer Trust, just because of the timing of it all, but I don't think they necessarily know what it is. And who knows if it has anything to do with his charity.