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Thread started 08/12/16 5:14pm

Wolfie87

Was Prince respected amongst the ravers and clubbers during the 90's

I'm a huge fan of the funky house/disco house/acid house scene and especially music from the 1992-2004 era. But I've never dug in to much about the feelings regarding Prince music at all. Was he liked in these circles also? I'm mostly thinking about you UK people during these years when electronic music was booming in the 90's.

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Reply #1 posted 08/12/16 6:24pm

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Well I'm a old member of the former house/disco house/acid house scene, especially Belgium (and the Netherlands) were the founders of this kind of music.

But I didn't hear or listen to any P music at that time, and I went to a lot of party's smile I lost P in the 90's when the housescene was booming....


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Reply #2 posted 08/13/16 12:28am

jayseajay

Prince was entirely absent from that scene, I never heard him out, I never heard him at anyone's house, we never talked about him, no one mentioned him ever...this was the time that my teenage love of P really dropped away...partly because I didn't much like the nineties stuff (as soon as the bad rap happened I was kind of gone), and partly because I was involved with a scene where there was no P at all ever. I was listening to Purple Music the other day, and it struck me as entirely mental that P basically half invented deep house in 1982 or whatever, and then didn't even bother to tell anyone or do anything with it b/c he was churning through ideas at such a phenomenal rate at that point it just got lost....

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Reply #3 posted 08/13/16 1:54am

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Similar experience here. In 1991 I accidently landed in a house music club and was fed a magic pill. Got stuck in the house/techno scene for about 10 years after that. No Prince music was ever played as far as I remember, nor was he ever discussed.

I also lost interest in Prince during this period, his music wasn't cutting edge anymore like it had been in the eighties and there was so much exciting electronic music coming out in the nineties that my need for Prince diminished. I kept buying his new albums though, but would not play them when friends were around (too cheesy/embarrassing). He had become a 'private joy', so to speak.

Emancipation made me write off Prince completely for a few years, the music and production on that album were lightyears away from what I dug at that time. Also his image didn't fit with the times at all either in my opinion. Prince and I didn't gel anymore at that time.

So basically Prince as an artist was still respected by me in private for his 80's achievements, but he was not mentioned in hip circles at all at that time. And -bar a few songs per album maybe- I had lost a lot of interest in his new music.

I know quite a few important early house and techno producers cite Prince as a major influence though. So there was respect from a producer's perspective, but not so much from the average raver/clubber I would say.

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Reply #4 posted 08/13/16 4:18am

maplenpg

Yep. Agree with everyone so far.

For me they were two completely distinct, seperate things. None of my friends liked Prince, in fact they hated him, so the rave/dance scene was my social scene and Prince my bedroom plaything. I never heard a Prince song played anywhere in the clubs, ever. The only time I remember even hearing a Prince song out & about was when I was with a work social at a bowling alley - that's how rare it was - I actually remember it playing.

I did stay with Prince through the early nineties though D&P is one of my least favourite albums. It did take me a long time and a lot of effort to dig Emancipation though. He did lose me for a bit back then.

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Reply #5 posted 08/13/16 4:29am

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Please don't associate Prince with pill popping doof doof noise from the 90's.

I know P's music wasn't that great in the 90's, but that's no reason to compare.

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Reply #6 posted 08/13/16 5:14am

iZsaZsa

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I googled "rave artists of the 90s" and Prince is not on there.
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Reply #7 posted 08/13/16 5:30am

bluegangsta

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Prince's original version of U and Loose would have made good rave tracks.

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Reply #8 posted 08/13/16 5:43am

Wolfie87

And what about producers like Carl Cox, Joey Negro, Stonebridge, Basement Jaxx, Full Intention, David Morales etc.?

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Reply #9 posted 08/13/16 6:31am

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I think Prince was aware of the scene and wanted to be a part of it, hence all the House Mixes that wasted space on his maxi-singles.

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Reply #10 posted 08/13/16 6:45am

Noodled24

He had some success. He was never huge in the scene.

Gett Off house remix, Gangster Glam, Do your dance, My Name is Prince remixs, Good Life (Dancing Divas remix) & The house remix of TMBGITW. All had some success. As did Carman Electras FantasiaErotica.

MNIP remixes seemed to be heavily influenced by the rave scene. They're about the heaviest dance mixes he'd ever done. The Good Life Dancing Divas remix was something I heard an awful lot in clubs at the time.





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Reply #11 posted 08/13/16 7:20am

Dibblekins

jayseajay said:

Prince was entirely absent from that scene, I never heard him out, I never heard him at anyone's house, we never talked about him, no one mentioned him ever...this was the time that my teenage love of P really dropped away...partly because I didn't much like the nineties stuff (as soon as the bad rap happened I was kind of gone), and partly because I was involved with a scene where there was no P at all ever. I was listening to Purple Music the other day, and it struck me as entirely mental that P basically half invented deep house in 1982 or whatever, and then didn't even bother to tell anyone or do anything with it b/c he was churning through ideas at such a phenomenal rate at that point it just got lost....

I'd agree with this - 'Purple Music' is definitely a fore-runner to the house / rave scene and would have fitted in well at some of the more hypnotic 'trance' nights.

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Reply #12 posted 08/13/16 5:51pm

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Huge commercial pop/rock stars and underground genre scenes are rarely compatible. It's like asking if people who go to D&B or dubstep nights listen to Prince. It's just two different worlds.

But house music, as far as the original Detroit scene - all those guys dug Prince a LOT. Model 500 (Juan Atkins), Derrick May, Frankie Knuckles, Vince Lawrence..... all those guys are huge fans.

Here's a great article exploring the impact Prince had on that scene.

The UK scene, though, was one step removed from the original Detroit House scene. And those Detroit guys, they grew up on black radio stations, where Prince was popular before Purple Rain. Folks like The Electrifying Mojo were among Prince's biggest supporters since extremely early in his career. So they grew up hearing cuts like "Controversy" etc.

UK folks didn't have that, because Prince wasn't a regular staple on many UK radio stations until he became a crossover star.



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Reply #13 posted 08/13/16 6:12pm

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Militant said:

But house music, as far as the original Detroit scene - all those guys dug Prince a LOT. Model 500 (Juan Atkins), Derrick May, Frankie Knuckles, Vince Lawrence..... all those guys are huge fans.

Yep. I saw Kevin Saunderson at one of the Welcome 2 Chicago shows.
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Reply #14 posted 08/14/16 10:29am

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I went to raves, house parties and was into the club scene a lot in the 90's, and Prince was not played, sampled or spoken of at least at the clubs and parties I went to and those were in LA/Hollywood/IE area. I wish he was, there were some jams in the 90s that I feel would have worked well in the club scene. I just feel Prince was misunderstood a lot in the 90s at least with the people and scene I happened to be in. I always loved Prince and his music even throughout my experiences and shift in my alternative musical preferences. To me Prince always represented everything that I loved in one person, Prince is the shit!!

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Reply #15 posted 08/14/16 2:56pm

sunset3121

I don't remember ever hearing anything by P played or P mentioned in the clubs in early 90s in Manchester, UK (I was pregnant throughout late 90s so I am not sure about the millenium period when 1999 was being played everywhere else). He was old news for most by the 90s but I guess still quietly respected as they all grew up listening to/watching Purple Rain etc. The only mention he might get with friends is if there was some stunt that got him talked about (e.g. the interview where he didn't speak). Folk were bemused by his behaviour.

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