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Thread started 04/01/03 3:17am

DavidEye

Anybody remember The Prince Family Newsletters (much props to Diana Dawkins)

I remember in 1994,I began subscribing to The Prince Family.It was a fan organization and newsletter run by Diana Dawkins.Every two weeks,you would receive a lengthy and very informative newsletter in the mail.You would get all the latest Prince news,reports from his concerts,very insightful commentaries and letters from fans,re-printed magazine articles,chart positions for Prince and his associated artists,etc.

In addition,Diana even had a hotline where you could call and get the latest news updates.I remember having a large phone bill from calling it very often...lol...


I was a subscriber from 1994 to 1999,when Diana shut it down.Apparently,Prince's lawsuits against Uptown and other fansites was a factor in her decision to close down.I don't know where Diana is or what she's up to,but I want to thank her for such a wonderful,informative and exciting newsletter and hotline.



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[This message was edited Tue Apr 1 3:18:24 PST 2003 by DavidEye]
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Reply #1 posted 04/01/03 4:42am

LaVisHh

I do! This was one special lady!

Those newsletters were heartfelt and genuine, I miss it and her.

Much kudos if anyone one here has contact with her, just to say thanks again for all the hard work she put it - it was very much appreciated and will never be forgotten.
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Reply #2 posted 04/01/03 5:02am

CalhounSq

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Not a clue smile
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #3 posted 04/01/03 5:04am

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CalhounSq said:

Not a clue smile

ditto
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Reply #4 posted 04/01/03 5:07am

alexnvrmnd

Definitely remember her and the newsletter! Not sure what's she's up to, but she's probably fed with Prince as a business (and maybe as a musician). I remember the whole incident seemed to hit her pretty hard! But like you said, much props!
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Reply #5 posted 04/01/03 5:56am

SANSKER7

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I remember reading her website and letters in '99'.

She was very dissatisfied with Prince and all the BS he was doing by shutting all the websites down and attacking the fans.

She was selling all of her collection on line to bidders.

She had a nice collection of Prince items but decided to let it all go, and shut the website down when Prince went on thre rampage.

Poor thing!

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First I need a picture of your mother, to verify the fact that there's not another one in the universe so supreme!!"
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Reply #6 posted 04/01/03 2:57pm

daysofwild

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Reply #7 posted 04/01/03 3:16pm

chickengrease

Wow, I had forgotten all about that! Thanks for the memories Diana D...wherever you is.
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Reply #8 posted 04/01/03 3:22pm

NuPwrSoul

Yup you can still peep some of the pages, courtesy of web archive:

http://web.archive.org/we...princefam/
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #9 posted 04/01/03 3:23pm

pejman

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This newsletter was also very informative! Between Controversy,Uptown, and the PF Newsletter, as fans these were some of the only sources of info into the Prince world.
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Reply #10 posted 04/01/03 3:32pm

LaVisHh

This was shown on the old prince.org website, and is now in archives:

http://web.archive.org/we....html?id=3

Editor's note: This is a special 'guest essay' written by Diana of The Ø Family. We believe hers is an important viewpoint, and the following comments well worth reading. It explains her very well-thought-out reasoning for not participating in the so-called "l4oa collective". Her arguments and beliefs are closely aligned to those of the prince.org editors on this issue, so we have chosen to publish the essay here (with her permission, of course!).


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Why we chose not to join the unified L4OA "collective"

We received an invitation to discuss creating a unified website...

"I've been asked to arrange an online meeting of as many web site operators as possible with a Paisley Park representative 'asap'."
—Pierre Igot 11/02/98
...and we refused the invitation, so we received a follow-up invitation...
"a representative of paisley park would like 2 chat online with u soon if u can..."
—Opnmind 11/09/98
...which we also refused. Prince alluded to our refusal himself:
"Truth b known...
???...what website declined an invite 2 discuss TRUTH and POSITIVITY on the Web? ...1der Y?"
—L4OA 11/09/98
As you can see above, there was no reference in either invitation to discussing "truth" or "positivity," but nevertheless, now that the new Love4OneAnother website is in existence, we thought it would be interesting to Prince—who 1ders Y—and to the fans to explain why we refused to participate.

COLLECTIVISM

Collectivism is a socialist ideology which refers to "centralized control." For example, persons working on a "collective" farm would not be their own masters but would be under the control of a central committee or the state. In selecting this term for his new website, Prince has - probably inadvertently - showed his hand (talk about your Freudian slips!). We're betting he meant "unity" when he chose the term "collective," but the real definition of "centralized control" is much more indicative of his true motivation. The most important reason we refused to participate in any "collective" is that it does not benefit the fans to have information under "centralized control."

TOTALITARIANISM

Totalitarianism is an ideology of absolute control that aims at suppressing initiative and individualism. One of the means utilized by totalitarian regimes to gain absolute control is the repression of freedom of expression, such as freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of assembly. Totalitarian regimes find this kind of suppression necessary because their power does not stem from the people or from any other legitimate source, but solely from fear. We find that requiring that any website think, speak and publish only "positivity," which on the surface may sound like a nice idea, is in reality nothing but censorship in sheep's clothing.

ELVIS (yeah, we said Elvis)

This being near the day of Elvis Presley's birth, we cannot help but think how destructive being surrounded by yes-men and toadies was to Elvis' career, his health and indeed, his very life. We wrote several years ago, "God help Prince when he has no one left who will tell him the truth," and we still believe we can do him no greater benefit than to continue to bring him, and the fans, the truth in whatever form it may exist.

DIVERSITY

We happen to be an American site and as such we hold dearly to the concept that strength comes from diversity. We believe that the fans can most benefit from there being a multiplicity of fansites, free and independent of Prince and each other, so that the most information, in the widest variety of styles, can be disseminated.

1999

We deeply regret, now that the millennium approaches—a time Prince fans have looked forward to for over a decade, a time when Prince was expected to create his greatest work—that Prince's personal eccentricities have far overshadowed his musical abilities in the eyes of the press and the public. We deeply regret that Prince has obsessed over money, control and even, yea and verily, what we post about him on our amateur fansite, rather than focusing on his music, which has suffered greatly in the process. We hope that Prince can take some time during this transitional year to reconsider his tactics, to stop making excuses for no longer being the star he once was and to make a new beginning to becoming the star we all know he has the ability to be once again.


Diana


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Reply #11 posted 04/01/03 6:43pm

Tom

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I remember her. I used to subscribe and I called her phone number all the time for the latest information.

Whats funny is at one point Prince's camp showed her some support by releasing some cassette singles of Dinner With Delores to her to give away.

Then a couple years later they did a 180 and attacked her and other fan sites/publications.

I don't blame her for being angry.
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Reply #12 posted 04/01/03 7:32pm

NuPwrSoul

Tom said:

Then a couple years later they did a 180 and attacked her


Well technically they never attacked her or her site. But in solidarity with the others that were sent letters, she shut everything down.

She was cool peeps! Hope she's doing well.
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #13 posted 04/01/03 8:17pm

pejman

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NuPwrSoul said:

Tom said:

Then a couple years later they did a 180 and attacked her


Well technically they never attacked her or her site. But in solidarity with the others that were sent letters, she shut everything down.

She was cool peeps! Hope she's doing well.



She sure was cool peeps!!!
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Reply #14 posted 04/01/03 8:39pm

NuPwr319

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Oooh! I do, I do!! wave

I was so sad when she shut down. But I got a coupla cool things from her collection she sold. I was shocked that she was so angry that she got rid of EVERYTHING.
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Reply #15 posted 04/01/03 11:23pm

funkystuff

Of course I remember it. I changed to it after Controversy.
And living in Central Europe, it wasn't too cheap to get those small newsletters from oversea but it was worth it.

After Diana, the internet took over.

And yes, Eileen and Diana seem to have learned the same thing. If you get too involved with Prince officially, the day you really get pissed on is not too far away.
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Reply #16 posted 04/02/03 4:37am

DavidEye

Tom said:



Whats funny is at one point Prince's camp showed her some support by releasing some cassette singles of Dinner With Delores to her to give away.




Oh yeah,I remember that "Dinner With Delores" promo cassette that Diana sent out with one of the newsletters! In fact,I still have mine.It seemed like,for awhile,Prince approved of Diana and her newsletter.I also remember Diana writing a review for 'The Truth' album LONG before it came out.
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