Hell no, he was happy man with plans right up until the end.

Also, something to think about. When Sheila E says she always saw him in pain, think about that sentence for a second. If he was some addict, popping pills to numb the pain, she would NOT have seen him in pain. He was clean and drug free his entire life imo.

As far as the sad thing goes, its people looking at photos from the tour, in dark light, with crazy shadow, and creating a scenario that doesn't exist.

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leadline said:

I'm sure Prince felt "sadness" from time-to-time. We are only human and we all get "sad". He said his music was his "therapy" so he would pour out his feelings in his songs. To answer your question about Prince feeling sad in his last months? No, I don't think he was--he seemed to be going about life as usual. He was still very active and social--that's why his sudden death makes it so hard to accept.

anangellooksdown said:

I know it's hard to know what really went on with Prince a lot of the time, and I keep a lot of thoughts to myself because I REALLY respect him. But there is something that I really wish I understood and I wonder if you could shed some light on it. I have seen people say here that Prince seemed "so sad" the last months of his life. He was getting older, yes, but I see photos of him out smiling and laughing with damaris and having a good time. And he was playing shows and helping Judith Hill and maybe others. Then again I know how private he was. He wouldn't have complained about anything either. Do you think he was really sad those last month months? If so, why?

Something in how he said things. Facial expressions. A glimpse in the eyes. I think after seeing him for so long you start learning to pick on queues. He's had many moments. But he wasn't the kind that spent large amounts of time moping around and playing woe is me games, so of course your going to see him laughing and smiling getting on with life too.

anangellooksdown said:

I know it's hard to know what really went on with Prince a lot of the time, and I keep a lot of thoughts to myself because I REALLY respect him. But there is something that I really wish I understood and I wonder if you could shed some light on it. I have seen people say here that Prince seemed "so sad" the last months of his life. He was getting older, yes, but I see photos of him out smiling and laughing with damaris and having a good time. And he was playing shows and helping Judith Hill and maybe others. Then again I know how private he was. He wouldn't have complained about anything either. Do you think he was really sad those last month months? If so, why?

Yes, I do because time was running out for him (I know others don't agree but I'm not debating this with anyone) and he was well aware of it. ThatGIRLthang said he knew he was terminally ill and had told people close to him. I believe her. As far as photos where he seemed "happy"....from what I understand, opiods can produce euphoric effects so that's something to add into what we are seeing, as well as any other possible unknown drug effects.

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Mumio said:

anangellooksdown said:

I know it's hard to know what really went on with Prince a lot of the time, and I keep a lot of thoughts to myself because I REALLY respect him. But there is something that I really wish I understood and I wonder if you could shed some light on it. I have seen people say here that Prince seemed "so sad" the last months of his life. He was getting older, yes, but I see photos of him out smiling and laughing with damaris and having a good time. And he was playing shows and helping Judith Hill and maybe others. Then again I know how private he was. He wouldn't have complained about anything either. Do you think he was really sad those last month months? If so, why?

Yes, I do because time was running out for him (I know others don't agree but I'm not debating this with anyone) and he was well aware of it. ThatGIRLthing said he knew he was terminally ill and had told people close to him. I believe her. As far as photos where he seemed "happy"....from what I understand, opiods can produce euphoric effects so that's something to add into what we are seeing, as well as any other possible unknown drug effects.

You can believe that if you like, I will believe what is true, and not what the media or some random people on twitter want people to believe.

Mumio said:

rogifan said:

Mumio said:

Yes, I do because time was running out for him (I know others don't agree but I'm not debating this with anyone) and he was well aware of it. ThatGIRLthing said he knew he was terminally ill and had told people close to him. I believe her. As far as photos where he seemed "happy"....from what I understand, opiods can produce euphoric effects so that's something to add into what we are seeing, as well as any other possible unknown drug effects.

Ha so any smile or laugh was because of drugs? C'mon. I don't know who ThatGIRLthing is but why should we believe him/her?

Rogifan, why is it that you just can't allow other people to have their say without ridiculing or berating them? I noticed you just did this a few moments ago to someone else and have seen you doing so in other posts too. You do this all too frequently and it's really a shame because at times you've got decent info to pass along, but you are making it difficult to listen to anything you say.

First of all, thatGIRLthang is a member of the org. I've said this several times before and also detailed why I believe her. Secondly, if you read my message...which you obviously did...then you know that I said I won't debate this. And I won't so why are you trying to provoke? You are free to think whatever you want, but please stop acting like you and you alone are entitled to have your say and no one else is. If you don't like things people post, try ignoring them. I'm completely fine with you ignoring my posts.

Carry on.

leadline said:

Mumio said:

Yes, I do because time was running out for him (I know others don't agree but I'm not debating this with anyone) and he was well aware of it. ThatGIRLthing said he knew he was terminally ill and had told people close to him. I believe her. As far as photos where he seemed "happy"....from what I understand, opiods can produce euphoric effects so that's something to add into what we are seeing, as well as any other possible unknown drug effects.

You can believe that if you like, I will believe what is true, and not what the media or some random people on twitter want people to believe.

Cool, but don't be so sure about what you believe is "true"...after all, where did you get your information? Unless you've got an inside connection then you got your info through the media too.

By the way, she's not on Twitter, she is a member of the org.

I think the supposed sadness & sickness people see is all hindsight. Show me where someone was concerned/worried/vocal about his health & wellbeing BEFORE April 21 but that's just me

Mumio said:

rogifan said:

Mumio said: Ha so any smile or laugh was because of drugs? C'mon. I don't know who ThatGIRLthing is but why should we believe him/her?

Rogifan, why is it that you just can't allow other people to have their say without ridiculing or berating them? I noticed you just did this a few moments ago to someone else and have seen you doing so in other posts too. You do this all too frequently and it's really a shame because at times you've got decent info to pass along, but you are making it difficult to listen to anything you say.

First of all, thatGIRLthang is a member of the org. I've said this several times before and also detailed why I believe her. Secondly, if you read my message...which you obviously did...then you know that I said I won't debate this. And I won't so why are you trying to provoke? You are free to think whatever you want, but please stop acting like you and you alone are entitled to have your say and no one else is. If you don't like things people post, try ignoring them. I'm completely fine with you ignoring my posts.

Carry on.

Are you the one that said they knew her or something like that? It's been so long it seems. That person got banned long time ago. I know you don't want to debate it but you can't not understand how some random person saying something on the org not be taken seriously?

CalhounSq said:

I think the supposed sadness & sickness people see is all hindsight. Show me where someone was concerned/worried/vocal about his health & wellbeing BEFORE April 21 but that's just me

Actually there were a lot of comments about his appearance, his weight loss. Not that they were saying he was sick but he wasn't looking his usual tightly groomed self.

morningsong said:

Mumio said:

Rogifan, why is it that you just can't allow other people to have their say without ridiculing or berating them? I noticed you just did this a few moments ago to someone else and have seen you doing so in other posts too. You do this all too frequently and it's really a shame because at times you've got decent info to pass along, but you are making it difficult to listen to anything you say.

First of all, thatGIRLthang is a member of the org. I've said this several times before and also detailed why I believe her. Secondly, if you read my message...which you obviously did...then you know that I said I won't debate this. And I won't so why are you trying to provoke? You are free to think whatever you want, but please stop acting like you and you alone are entitled to have your say and no one else is. If you don't like things people post, try ignoring them. I'm completely fine with you ignoring my posts.

Carry on.

Are you the one that said they knew her or something like that? It's been so long it seems. That person got banned long time ago. I know you don't want to debate it but you can't not understand how some random person saying something on the org not be taken seriously?

I don't believe she was banned. Why do you think so?

Mumio said:

morningsong said:

Are you the one that said they knew her or something like that? It's been so long it seems. That person got banned long time ago. I know you don't want to debate it but you can't not understand how some random person saying something on the org not be taken seriously?

I don't believe she was banned. Why do you think so?

Something I read on here, but I don't actually know because I've been casually paying attention. I honestly did not believe the person, I wanted to but, such twitter posts could be faked too easily. The only thing is someone on here mentioned once they knew her and saw her in Prince's camp, but that doesn't have any verification either and I've heard no more about it. Next thing I heard she was banned. I thought you were the person who said that.


And you can't pull up her profile, which usually means that person's screenname is banned.

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morningsong said:

morningsong said:

Mumio said:

I don't believe she was banned. Why do you think so?

Something I read on here, but I don't actually know because I've been casually paying attention. I honestly did not believe the person, I wanted to but, such twitter posts could be faked too easily. The only thing is someone on here mentioned once they knew her and saw her in Prince's camp, but that doesn't have any verification either and I've heard no more about it. Next thing I heard she was banned. I thought you were the person who said that.


And you can't pull up her profile, which usually means that person's screenname is banned.

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Very interesting re the profile. I tried it myself and couldn't get anything. I know it was still there about a month ago but hadn't checked since then...she hadn't posted anything new. Things that make you go hmmmmmm....

Well, even so her posts are still available by doing a search. Odd though about the profile going missing so recently. Oh...the posts do still show the info too. I've gone and looked and it is still there. For now anyway

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Mumio said:

morningsong said:

Something I read on here, but I don't actually know because I've been casually paying attention. I honestly did not believe the person, I wanted to but, such twitter posts could be faked too easily. The only thing is someone on here mentioned once they knew her and saw her in Prince's camp, but that doesn't have any verification either and I've heard no more about it. Next thing I heard she was banned. I thought you were the person who said that.


And you can't pull up her profile, which usually means that person's screenname is banned.

[Edited 8/8/16 17:43pm]

Very interesting re the profile. I tried it myself and couldn't get anything. I know it was still there about a month ago but hadn't checked since then...she hadn't posted anything new. Things that make you go hmmmmmm....

Well, even so her posts are still available by doing a search. Odd though about the profile going missing so recently. Oh...the posts do still show the info too. I've gone and looked and it is still
there. For now anyway

Nothing suspicious. People get banned on the org all the time, well not as much as they use to but it happens.

I've seen her post but nothing that can't be faked as I said before, so unless there's some hardcore evidence I'll just take all what that person said worth a grain of salt.

morningsong said:

Mumio said:

Very interesting re the profile. I tried it myself and couldn't get anything. I know it was still there about a month ago but hadn't checked since then...she hadn't posted anything new. Things that make you go hmmmmmm....

Well, even so her posts are still available by doing a search. Odd though about the profile going missing so recently. Oh...the posts do still show the info too. I've gone and looked and it is still
there. For now anyway

Nothing suspicious. People get banned on the org all the time, well not as much as they use to but it happens.

I've seen her post but nothing that can't be faked as I said before, so unless there's some hardcore evidence I'll just take all what that person said worth a grain of salt.

didnt sound sad on those paisley shows with ruff enuff...

CalhounSq said:

I think the supposed sadness & sickness people see is all hindsight. Show me where someone was concerned/worried/vocal about his health & wellbeing BEFORE April 21 but that's just me

THIS!!

rogifan said:

This is what Hannah Welton wrote in her statement after P's passing:

We will make sure baby girl knows just how amazing her Uncle Prince was to us, and countless others, and how excited you were for her precious life. From the bottom of my heart...Thank you. 💜💜 Your legacy lives on...

I don think he was sad. Sure those P&M shows were emotional but from the limited video footage I've seen I didn't detect sadness. He looks pretty happy here. [img:$uid]http://i66.tinypic.com/idvrjp.jpg[/img:$uid]

I don't have any way of knowing his emotional state but this picture SCREAMS serious illness and rapid weight loss to me!! If I wasn't looking at this here, I'm not sure I would have recognized him. The first time I saw this picture, it tore my insides up. I wanted to punch whomever was in his inner circle on that day.

I have seen it enough now that I'm not so shocked but, come on, this is emaciated and deathly looking. Maybe it's just my Momma Bear instincts but this just kills me!!! He deserved better. I don't blame anyone really, Judith is so young. I wouldn't have tried to force someone that much older than I to do something when I was her age. Just seeing his face so drawn and his demeanor so subdued (in some pictures) would have set alarms bells ringing if he had been my friend or employer. I know, I know, easy for me to say. Still think I would spoken because I would have been freaked.

This is the skeletal picture which makes me question how anyone around him could not have seen a problem, unless those closest to him already knew his medical condition(s). So very sad still, but life goes on.

Clearly it seems to make people feel better if Prince "knew" something ahead of time, and then they create a scenerio to back this up, be it pictures in a dark music hall with strange shadows while he is performing sad songs, or thinking he is skinner than normal, when in actuality it is an illusion. If I put a 15 foot round afro on me, then wore loose clothes, I would look skinnier as well. And many many many more things with fans reaching for things that simply don't exist, all in an effort to force this horrible event to make sense in their minds.

The facts:

Sheila E says he was always in pain - people who pop pain pills are not always in pain, if Prince was some addict, Sheila would have never seen him in pain.

Nobody around him, nobody close to him ever saw him take a thing, nor was there ever one complaint of being in pain. His bodyguard never saw anything in his bags that he packed personally. He never appeared high, or, off, to anyone.

Prince hated taking any drug, even an aspirin, his body was his temple and did everything he could not to pollute it. He didn't even have a cell phone because he believed the frequency they emitted was harmful. Which he mentioned on twitter one day.

Prince preached non addiction, and lived by example his entire life. He was disciplined beyond belief. The way he recorded, the way he ate (very little and healthy as shit), the way he held true to all JW beliefs and restrictions, no swearing, no birthdays, celibate lifestyle......all these things, no problem for Prince, he was a determined, strong man. Yet, we are to believe that after a nice relaxing show with him sitting at piano, he is in so much pain, that not only does he pollute his body with drugs, but he pollutes it to the point of overdose?????? Throws a party a few days later, and then does the exact same thing a few days after that??


This is not the actions of the man we knew, common sense is all you need here people. Forget what the media says, use your freakin minds, use what you knew Prince to be about his entire life, his every walking breath, his every lyric, his every action, contradicts what we are seeing here.


With respect to all here, I believe he would honestly be saddened at what his fans are saying and how quickly they came to believe all this nonsense.

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leadline said:

DollyDagger said:

DollyDagger said:

rogifan said:

This is what Hannah Welton wrote in her statement after P's passing: I don think he was sad. Sure those P&M shows were emotional but from the limited video footage I've seen I didn't detect sadness. He looks pretty happy here. [img:$uid]http://i66.tinypic.com/idvrjp.jpg[/img:$uid]

I don't have any way of knowing his emotional state but this picture SCREAMS serious illness and rapid weight loss to me!! If I wasn't looking at this here, I'm not sure I would have recognized him. The first time I saw this picture, it tore my insides up. I wanted to punch whomever was in his inner circle on that day.

I have seen it enough now that I'm not so shocked but, come on, this is emaciated and deathly looking. Maybe it's just my Momma Bear instincts but this just kills me!!! He deserved better. I don't blame anyone really, Judith is so young. I wouldn't have tried to force someone that much older than I to do something when I was her age. Just seeing his face so drawn and his demeanor so subdued (in some pictures) would have set alarms bells ringing if he had been my friend or employer. I know, I know, easy for me to say. Still think I would spoken because I would have been freaked.

I agree with you DollyDagger. I can't speak to his emotional health, but this picture shows a very thin, gaunt man. And I believe that he WOULD have pushed himself to do what he loves even to the end. I have not battled serious illness, but I watched my mom continue to embrace life despite knowing her days were coming to an end. She forced herself to continue to "do life" and soak up every moment. And continue to have joy and happiness mixed with sadness as days passed.

leadline said: