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Thread started 08/05/16 1:50pm

BillieBalloon

ATWIAD....yay or nay

I love this album, for me it's Prince at one of his creative peaks. However, do you think it was a mistake to release an introspective record after the success of Purple Rain? Perhaps he could have monopolised on the success of PR and not gone down the personal route so soon. I'm glad he did release it but I think it hurt his record sales for quite a while.

Just some thoughts on the album.
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Reply #1 posted 08/05/16 1:59pm

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My number one P album
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Reply #2 posted 08/05/16 2:03pm

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BillieBalloon said:

I love this album, for me it's Prince at one of his creative peaks. However, do you think it was a mistake to release an introspective record after the success of Purple Rain? Perhaps he could have monopolised on the success of PR and not gone down the personal route so soon. I'm glad he did release it but I think it hurt his record sales for quite a while. Just some thoughts on the album. [Edited 8/5/16 13:54pm]

Prince moved on from PR while many got stuck there. He seemed to follow his heart instead of his mind. I bet he could've made a PR2, if he wanted, but he had already moved on from that experience/feeling to the next. Same with each album from the beginning. Seemed he went through different experiences in his life/career and when they were over, he was over them. PR was just one of those experiences that caught fire, imo.

Yay, btw. biggrin

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Reply #3 posted 08/05/16 2:04pm

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From DIRTY MIND - LOVESEXY... That is the GOLDEN ERA for PRINCE.

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Reply #4 posted 08/05/16 2:08pm

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Big YAY from me.

I think what are the weaker tracks are at the end of the album so it can be viewed to run out of steam but the album overall and the really fantastic b-sides added together make this one near the top of the pile for me.
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Reply #5 posted 08/05/16 2:25pm

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naw, wasn't as good as the albums on either side of it, you can tell he rushed a lot of it and that he was trying to turn off the PR unfaithful. still, some good good stuff on it, i say some of his b-sides, again, were better than half the album.

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Reply #6 posted 08/05/16 2:44pm

TooLate

This album is a masterpiece and made me want to discovering him even more. I LOVE everything except Tamborine.
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Reply #7 posted 08/05/16 3:02pm

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endiadj said:



BillieBalloon said:


I love this album, for me it's Prince at one of his creative peaks. However, do you think it was a mistake to release an introspective record after the success of Purple Rain? Perhaps he could have monopolised on the success of PR and not gone down the personal route so soon. I'm glad he did release it but I think it hurt his record sales for quite a while. Just some thoughts on the album. [Edited 8/5/16 13:54pm]

Prince moved on from PR while many got stuck there. He seemed to follow his heart instead of his mind. I bet he could've made a PR2, if he wanted, but he had already moved on from that experience/feeling to the next. Same with each album from the beginning. Seemed he went through different experiences in his life/career and when they were over, he was over them. PR was just one of those experiences that caught fire, imo.



Yay, btw. biggrin

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I know he moved swiftly from one project to the next and the public didn't always move with him. People were still high on PR when he released his next album in 85. That's not Prince's fault, he was very prolific. He didn't care about riding on the crest of a wave and releasing PR2 because he had integrity. I just think ATWIAD was lost on some people and they didn't get it. It was too personal for them.
I love what he says here about it.

I talked to George Clinton, a man who knows and has done so much for funk," Prince told Rolling Stone. "George told me how much he liked Around the World in a Day. You know how much more his words mean than those from some mamma-jamma wearing glasses and an alligator shirt behind a typewriter? . . . I've heard some people say I'm not talking about anything on this record. And what a lot of other people get wrong about the record is that I'm not trying to be this great visionary wizard. Paisley Park is in everybody's heart. It's not just something that I have the keys to. I was trying to say something about looking inside oneself to find perfection. Perfection is in everyone. Nobody's perfect, but they can be. We may never reach that, but it's better to strive than not."
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Reply #8 posted 08/05/16 3:16pm

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My #2.
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Reply #9 posted 08/05/16 3:22pm

EnDoRpHn

Funny, I pulled out my longbox the other day and listened to the CD fresh, all the way through for the first time in years.

I think it would be a masterpiece if it segued from America to Our Destiny and Roadhouse Garden, and wrapped up with Pop Life and The Ladder.

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Reply #10 posted 08/05/16 3:32pm

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at the time it seemed like a strange release, but in retrospect, it helped establish him as a varied musician and not just Mr. Purple Rain.

Mostly a great album.

The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/
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Reply #11 posted 08/05/16 3:33pm

BillieBalloon

I also love the cover. I would study it for ages lol. The album was called Prince's Sgt Pepper almost.immediately it came it due to its psychedelic cover and influences. Listen to the eastern influence on the title track.
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Reply #12 posted 08/05/16 3:37pm

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I love this cd! Every song on it is awesome in my opinion.
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Reply #13 posted 08/05/16 3:49pm

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My favorite thing about ATWIAD (one of my faves, by the way) is the video for "Raspberry Beret". It's a day-glo, pop-psych, Summer Of Love acid trip that is unabashedly and gloriously happy and positive. From the legendary blue cloud suit, to the animation, to Wendy's Clara Bow homage, to the insanely nostalgiac video special effects, to the song itself... it's just about perfect. He even went with the "cough" at the beginning!

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Damn, I wish I could watch that video in a nice clear format. It makes me deliriously happy.

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Reply #14 posted 08/05/16 3:49pm

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Absolutely one of my favorite albums (though still a nudge behind Parade). I love him for releasing it after PR because it showed him for the artist he really is. It did turn off some PR fans, but his subsequent CDs sold well if not using PR as the yardstick. No one so artistic will ever repeatedly get the top selling album of the year.

It is true that the album isn't as even as some of his other releases, but Conditions of the Heart, Paisley Park, and The ladder are GREAT! I think I would love any album that Condition of the Heart was on because to me it is his most beautiful and endearing song. But let's not stop there. I think one of his most under-rated songs is Temptation. The first half is amazing for it's complex funkiness r, and I actually enjoy the theatrics of the end. Even for those who don't, who else could have done the first half! The song ATWIAD is magical and infectious. The sequence of Pop Life, The Ladder, and Temptation are all connected in a profound way! To simplify. it a yay for me biggrin

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Reply #15 posted 08/05/16 4:04pm

BillieBalloon

GiggityGoo said:

My favorite thing about ATWIAD (one of my faves, by the way) is the video for "Raspberry Beret". It's a day-glo, pop-psych, Summer Of Love acid trip that is unabashedly and gloriously happy and positive. From the legendary blue cloud suit, to the animation, to Wendy's Clara Bow homage, to the insanely nostalgiac video special effects, to the song itself... it's just about perfect. He even went with the "cough" at the beginning!


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Damn, I wish I could watch that video in a nice clear format. It makes me deliriously happy.



I love that video and you've described it really well.
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Reply #16 posted 08/05/16 4:14pm

BillieBalloon

I listen to Paisley Park and it instantly makes me feel better. "Colourful people whose hair on one side is swept back" is one of my favourite lines. I think this album helped me to visualise the world Prince inhabited or wanted to inhabit at least. The ladder is a beautiful song. Lyrically this is one of his finest albums.
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Reply #17 posted 08/05/16 5:02pm

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with the exception of America & Tamborine, it's not one of my go-to albums. I like everything on it, I just don't reach for it often.
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Reply #18 posted 08/05/16 5:31pm

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I say yah on ATWIAD. This release did not turn me off as a Prince fan. It did quite the opposite. It intrigued me even more and I thought, damn if you can pull off a different type of album everytime from For You to Prince to D.Mind to Controversy to 1999 to PR, then ATWIAD...I was like this artist is electrifying and I wanna hear more. ATWIAD was so different but I was ok with that. It was simply just who Prince was, different, a risk taker, a musical genius and true to himself. I like the entire ablum some songs more than others. And then he released Parade after which again was so different and one of my favorites. ATWIAD is so good in my opinion. I got where Prince was going.
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Reply #19 posted 08/05/16 5:50pm

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Yay all the way. The only songs I don't care for on the LP is The Ladder and Temptation.

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Reply #20 posted 08/05/16 7:06pm

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YAY 4 Ever

Has always been my favorite

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TooLate said:

This album is a masterpiece and made me want to discovering him even more. I LOVE everything except Tamborine.

Oh man Tamborine I loved on the spot. That is Prince in a studio swetty and furiously letting loose that 'masturbatory' poetry, this song is a little example of what set's purple music apart. Those wild finger cymbals, that gutter bass, Brad Marsh doing well on the tamborine

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OldFriends4Sale said:

TooLate said:

This album is a masterpiece and made me want to discovering him even more. I LOVE everything except Tamborine.

Oh man Tamborine I loved on the spot. That is Prince in a studio swetty and furiously letting loose that 'masturbatory' poetry, this song is a little example of what set's purple music apart. Those wild finger cymbals, that gutter bass, Brad Marsh doing well on the tamborine

YASSSSS! & some lovely screams on there - the only thing wrong with it is it's not long enough! headbang

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Reply #23 posted 08/05/16 9:40pm

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Work of art....
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Reply #24 posted 08/05/16 9:45pm

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YAY YAY YAY!!! cool cool biggrin biggrin biggrin
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CalhounSq said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Oh man Tamborine I loved on the spot. That is Prince in a studio swetty and furiously letting loose that 'masturbatory' poetry, this song is a little example of what set's purple music apart. Those wild finger cymbals, that gutter bass, Brad Marsh doing well on the tamborine

YASSSSS! & some lovely screams on there - the only thing wrong with it is it's not long enough! headbang

YES
This is one of those songs that is perfectly short and makes you hope there is an extended version in the Vault

This one reminds me of Tick Tick Bang(81) wicked pornographic and purple. Kills the 90 remix

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Reply #26 posted 08/05/16 10:25pm

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i have always been fond of it. i bought a 5 cd changer in university and used to load it up with ATWIAD, the family, parade, jill jones and SOT. the succession of albums was/is such a delicious progression from near-eastern flirtation into lush orchestral landscapes. so so good and so vital to him moving his work forward. cloud9 bananadance clapping

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OldFriends4Sale said:

CalhounSq said:

YASSSSS! & some lovely screams on there - the only thing wrong with it is it's not long enough! headbang

YES
This is one of those songs that is perfectly short and makes you hope there is an extended version in the Vault

This one reminds me of Tick Tick Bang(81) wicked pornographic and purple. Kills the 90 remix

OMFG, I didn't even think of the possibility of a longer one in the Vault! omfg now you got me wishing!! lol pray razz

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Reply #28 posted 08/05/16 10:37pm

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why in heavens name would it be a "nay"?????


This album is a masterpiece in a long string of masterpieces... music

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Reply #29 posted 08/05/16 11:11pm

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wavesofbliss said:

i have always been fond of it. i bought a 5 cd changer in university and used to load it up with ATWIAD, the family, parade, jill jones and SOT. the succession of albums was/is such a delicious progression from near-eastern flirtation into lush orchestral landscapes. so so good and so vital to him moving his work forward. cloud9 bananadance clapping

Oh hell yeah, what an awesome way to fill your 5 cd changer. Exactly what I was listening to back in the day and still am!!

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