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Reply #30 posted 08/01/16 8:01pm

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deerpath said:

At first I thought this was about another person, but then someone mentioned it is about Prince's relationship with God. The breakdown is one of coming to recognize spiritual values--not material ones. That the lessons are learned through suffering--for Prince a breaking down of those egoisms that kept him from God.




That had to have been a challenge for a man who worked hard to control every aspect of his life rather than trusting God.What is enough and what is too much--he seemed to be working through. He seemed to be happier, more balanced in different ways as he matured. Genius seems to have its own demons that the rest of us don't grasp.




Maybe.




The pope is in Poland and told his followers, "


Later, the pontiff warned the youth against paralysis that can come from thinking the problems of the world are too large to confront. But then he warned against what he called an "even more dangerous" kind of paralysis: "to think that in order to be happy all we need is a good sofa."





"A sofa that makes us feel comfortable, calm, safe," the pope described. "A sofa like one of those we have nowadays with a built-in massage unit to put us to sleep. A sofa that promises us hours of comfort so we can escape to the world of video games and spend all kinds of time in front of a computer screen."






"It is very sad to pass through life without leaving a mark," Francis warned. "But when we opt for ease and convenience, for confusing happiness with consumption, then we end up paying a high price indeed: we lose our freedom."






"Jesus is not the Lord of comfort, security and ease," the pontiff continued. "Following Jesus demands a good dose of courage, a readiness to trade in the sofa for a pair of walking shoes and to set out on new and uncharted paths."






"God expects something from you," Francis told the young people. "God wants something from you. God hopes in you. God comes to break down all our fences. He comes to open the doors of our lives, our dreams, our ways of seeing things."






"God comes to break open everything that keeps you closed in," said the pope. "He is encouraging you to dream. He wants to make you see that, with you, the world can be different. For the fact is, unless you offer the best of yourselves, the world will never be different."




https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/francis-makes-rousing-call-millennials-get-couch-and-fix-world



I thought of Prince.



Deerpath, thanks for this. Thanks very much. I like the way you think.
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Reply #31 posted 08/01/16 8:03pm

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justAmeda said:



deerpath said:


At first I thought this was about another person, but then someone mentioned it is about Prince's relationship with God. The breakdown is one of coming to recognize spiritual values--not material ones. That the lessons are learned through suffering--for Prince a breaking down of those egoisms that kept him from God.




That had to have been a challenge for a man who worked hard to control every aspect of his life rather than trusting God.What is enough and what is too much--he seemed to be working through. He seemed to be happier, more balanced in different ways as he matured. Genius seems to have its own demons that the rest of us don't grasp.




Maybe.




The pope is in Poland and told his followers, "


Later, the pontiff warned the youth against paralysis that can come from thinking the problems of the world are too large to confront. But then he warned against what he called an "even more dangerous" kind of paralysis: "to think that in order to be happy all we need is a good sofa."





"A sofa that makes us feel comfortable, calm, safe," the pope described. "A sofa like one of those we have nowadays with a built-in massage unit to put us to sleep. A sofa that promises us hours of comfort so we can escape to the world of video games and spend all kinds of time in front of a computer screen."






"It is very sad to pass through life without leaving a mark," Francis warned. "But when we opt for ease and convenience, for confusing happiness with consumption, then we end up paying a high price indeed: we lose our freedom."






"Jesus is not the Lord of comfort, security and ease," the pontiff continued. "Following Jesus demands a good dose of courage, a readiness to trade in the sofa for a pair of walking shoes and to set out on new and uncharted paths."






"God expects something from you," Francis told the young people. "God wants something from you. God hopes in you. God comes to break down all our fences. He comes to open the doors of our lives, our dreams, our ways of seeing things."






"God comes to break open everything that keeps you closed in," said the pope. "He is encouraging you to dream. He wants to make you see that, with you, the world can be different. For the fact is, unless you offer the best of yourselves, the world will never be different."




https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/francis-makes-rousing-call-millennials-get-couch-and-fix-world



I thought of Prince.



yeahthat When I hear it especially in harmony with all the other songs of that album, I do not hear it as a man talking to a woman but he's using that analogy to basically spell out his life journey thus far. on a side note, I just cannot grow to like Breakfast Cant Wait, I mean AOA is so profound and deep and then he throws that little curve ball of a song in and leaves me going WTH? REALLY P? just totally ruins the vibe when that song comes on. I just skip over it.



JA,
I felt the same way at first and I can't believe that BCW is growing on me.
I'm trying not to like it because I prefer his deeper music but...
I also believe that maybe he had to throw in something for the pop 40 crowd?
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Reply #32 posted 08/01/16 8:04pm

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anangellooksdown said:

justAmeda said:



deerpath said:


At first I thought this was about another person, but then someone mentioned it is about Prince's relationship with God. The breakdown is one of coming to recognize spiritual values--not material ones. That the lessons are learned through suffering--for Prince a breaking down of those egoisms that kept him from God.




That had to have been a challenge for a man who worked hard to control every aspect of his life rather than trusting God.What is enough and what is too much--he seemed to be working through. He seemed to be happier, more balanced in different ways as he matured. Genius seems to have its own demons that the rest of us don't grasp.




Maybe.




The pope is in Poland and told his followers, "


Later, the pontiff warned the youth against paralysis that can come from thinking the problems of the world are too large to confront. But then he warned against what he called an "even more dangerous" kind of paralysis: "to think that in order to be happy all we need is a good sofa."





"A sofa that makes us feel comfortable, calm, safe," the pope described. "A sofa like one of those we have nowadays with a built-in massage unit to put us to sleep. A sofa that promises us hours of comfort so we can escape to the world of video games and spend all kinds of time in front of a computer screen."






"It is very sad to pass through life without leaving a mark," Francis warned. "But when we opt for ease and convenience, for confusing happiness with consumption, then we end up paying a high price indeed: we lose our freedom."






"Jesus is not the Lord of comfort, security and ease," the pontiff continued. "Following Jesus demands a good dose of courage, a readiness to trade in the sofa for a pair of walking shoes and to set out on new and uncharted paths."






"God expects something from you," Francis told the young people. "God wants something from you. God hopes in you. God comes to break down all our fences. He comes to open the doors of our lives, our dreams, our ways of seeing things."






"God comes to break open everything that keeps you closed in," said the pope. "He is encouraging you to dream. He wants to make you see that, with you, the world can be different. For the fact is, unless you offer the best of yourselves, the world will never be different."




https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/francis-makes-rousing-call-millennials-get-couch-and-fix-world



I thought of Prince.



yeahthat When I hear it especially in harmony with all the other songs of that album, I do not hear it as a man talking to a woman but he's using that analogy to basically spell out his life journey thus far. on a side note, I just cannot grow to like Breakfast Cant Wait, I mean AOA is so profound and deep and then he throws that little curve ball of a song in and leaves me going WTH? REALLY P? just totally ruins the vibe when that song comes on. I just skip over it.



JA,
I felt the same way at first and I can't believe that BCW is growing on me.
I'm trying not to like it because I prefer his deeper music but...
I also believe that maybe he had to throw in something for the pop 40 crowd?


To expand on this further, sometimes in order to agtract people to the meat, ya gotta shown little skin.
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Reply #33 posted 08/02/16 2:59am

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anangellooksdown said:

anangellooksdown said:



JA,
I felt the same way at first and I can't believe that BCW is growing on me.
I'm trying not to like it because I prefer his deeper music but...
I also believe that maybe he had to throw in something for the pop 40 crowd?


To expand on this further, sometimes in order to agtract people to the meat, ya gotta shown little skin.
I seen it as his prankster side of him that purposely sat there like" Wonder what their reaction would be if I threw in some crappy song modway into this?" I picture sitting on a side couch eating popcorn and a large sweet tea and watching us listen like he's watching the latest suspense movie then cracking up when we in fact do the WTH face...so not funny P!..storms off even though I loves ya!
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Reply #34 posted 08/02/16 12:34pm

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anangellooksdown said:

Prince dug this song. It's the story of a woman who is breaking down his old self, breaking down the young Prince who wanted "the house with the biggest pool" and who "woke up in places you'd never believe." He says, that's all "behind [him] now, all because of you." He also says there's now "a door that you can walk through where there used to be a wall." It was a single released on April 17, 2104. Who do you think he could've written it for? [Edited 7/30/16 16:18pm]

I'm not sure who it could have been written for but to me the song just feels so intimate to me and I suspect it directly related to his life, so I'm sure it was a special woman. Perhaps it was someone who was under the radar or someone we fans would never know about. I don't know if I even want to guess who the song actually was about because one thing I have realized since his passing is, for the longtime fan, Prince historian I always thought I was, now I realize I knew jack Sh@it about his life...lol...not that I am down on you for being curious, believe me, I've been there...but nowadays, to me it is just important that someone got through to him like that, I hope in his last few years he found someone who really made his heart sing and made him feel content....it always seemed like he was searching for something (emotionally) that for some reason was hard for him to obtain...

I love the introspective Prince and from his last few albums it really seems he changed from the eighties Prince and it was quiet refreshing. I hate thinking about how things could have been different and what could have been. Had he lived, concoured his dependency of those painkillers, I would have loved to have seen his wisdom and depth that I can only imagine he would have developed in his elder years, well into his 70s or 80s I like to imagine...he always seemed to be growing year after year......

Sorry guys, I'm really missing Prince today... sad

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Reply #35 posted 08/03/16 1:50pm

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Krystalkisses said:



anangellooksdown said:


Prince dug this song. It's the story of a woman who is breaking down his old self, breaking down the young Prince who wanted "the house with the biggest pool" and who "woke up in places you'd never believe." He says, that's all "behind [him] now, all because of you." He also says there's now "a door that you can walk through where there used to be a wall." It was a single released on April 17, 2104. Who do you think he could've written it for? [Edited 7/30/16 16:18pm]



I'm not sure who it could have been written for but to me the song just feels so intimate to me and I suspect it directly related to his life, so I'm sure it was a special woman. Perhaps it was someone who was under the radar or someone we fans would never know about. I don't know if I even want to guess who the song actually was about because one thing I have realized since his passing is, for the longtime fan, Prince historian I always thought I was, now I realize I knew jack Sh@it about his life...lol...not that I am down on you for being curious, believe me, I've been there...but nowadays, to me it is just important that someone got through to him like that, I hope in his last few years he found someone who really made his heart sing and made him feel content....it always seemed like he was searching for something (emotionally) that for some reason was hard for him to obtain...



I love the introspective Prince and from his last few albums it really seems he changed from the eighties Prince and it was quiet refreshing. I hate thinking about how things could have been different and what could have been. Had he lived, concoured his dependency of those painkillers, I would have loved to have seen his wisdom and depth that I can only imagine he would have developed in his elder years, well into his 70s or 80s I like to imagine...he always seemed to be growing year after year.....



Sorry guys, I'm really missing Prince today... sad



I really like everything you said, KK.
Thanks 💜
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Reply #36 posted 08/03/16 7:37pm

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Krystalkisses said:



I love the introspective Prince and from his last few albums it really seems he changed from the eighties Prince and it was quiet refreshing. I hate thinking about how things could have been different and what could have been. Had he lived, concoured his dependency of those painkillers, I would have loved to have seen his wisdom and depth that I can only imagine he would have developed in his elder years, well into his 70s or 80s I like to imagine...he always seemed to be growing year after year.....



Sorry guys, I'm really missing Prince today... sad





I agree! I was an "original" fan that fell away after Lovesexy. While I am getting acquainted with the albums I missed, there definitely are fantastic songs. But I am more drawn Tomthe wise songwriter that had some life under his belt to sing about in the last few albums.
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