NinaB said:

Astasheiks said:

Laura, Are people getting this Duane in this photo confused with Prince's half brother Duane or is this the same person?

Same person. Duane wasn't a half brother tho. John adopted him.

Thanks for the clarification.

Astasheiks said:

And what they thought of Prince then and now? Be cool if one of them was on the org...

Holms behind P on the left has a fro almost twice the size of P's. He needed almost a Pitch fork to comb that out!

Dang Duane is wearing the number of the day his adopted Brother expired!

Astasheiks said:

BillieBalloon said:

Ive seen a picture of Eric Leeds with a big afro, but now i cant find it.

Alan Leeds

Astasheiks said:

PeteSilas said:

am i the only one who thinks those afros are motherfucking ridiculous? Damn, most of the time, i see afros in old pics and think "they weren't as big as I remember them" these guys could sleep with no pillow.

This is the late 70's. And for us Black Folks at that time they didn't look mf ridiculous! I asssume you are of a different race. I think that's why Prince went back to the fro his last few years, Part of it I think was saying f people who think they need to tell me how to wear my hair or a afro looks to Black!

Lots and lots of 'white' folks had afros in the 70s

And that isn't why Prince went back to the fro at all...

OldFriends4Sale said:

BillieBalloon said:

Ive seen a picture of Eric Leeds with a big afro, but now i cant find it.

Alan Leeds

oh shit, i bet he's embarrassed by that pic today. My ma had a photo where she had an afro wig on, I think she threw it away many years ago. james shoulda beat his ass.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Astasheiks said:

This is the late 70's. And for us Black Folks at that time they didn't look mf ridiculous! I asssume you are of a different race. I think that's why Prince went back to the fro his last few years, Part of it I think was saying f people who think they need to tell me how to wear my hair or a afro looks to Black!

Lots and lots of 'white' folks had afros in the 70s

And that isn't why Prince went back to the fro at all...

Prince's fro was cool, it's that motherfucker above him that's ridiculous. i don't care what era that was, people had to laugh when they saw that huge fro. I remember my stepdad who had an unruly fro that he only picked when he had somewhere to go, he said it hurt to comb out. One of the badass neighborhood kids talked shit to me about him, i told him, and like a mature adult he called that little boy a nappy headed motherfucker.

justAmeda said:

Astasheiks said:

And what they thought of Prince then and now? Be cool if one of them was on the org...

Holms behind P on the left has a fro almost twice the size of P's. He needed almost a Pitch fork to comb that out!

ROTFLMBO!....made me spit my water all over my keyboard!...hmm wonder if him and P ever competed to see who had the better fro? P as cute with fro or no fro! and I think Duane was cute too!

one of those songs on musicology, forget the name said something about how he and his friends used to argue about who's afro was the roundest.

laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:

oh, thanks, how did you find that? i couldn't find a thing. Duane was the "handsome and tall" brother who prince immortalized on something in the water. didn't know about mental issues, i do know that Prince fired him for some reason or another, probably being too crazy as a security guard.

-- If you look at the courts docs from his daughter and grand daughter they provide an explanation of how close Duane was to Nelson family. They mention that they became ill and a recluse. The mental problems are also mentioned. If you look Duane up on the case file section of the Carver County website you can see his arrest record. I also rember the stories in the media about him back in the 90s. He caused Prince much embarrassment and grief. I suspect that is the reason he was fired and disowned.

was he genetically related to Prince? I always heard half-brother but i also heard stepbrother. Interestint that two brothers of Prince had to be hospitalized for mental health issues. Of course, genius' and creative types like Prince are always a little out there too. In a recent book I read on Prince, he said something about his dad being very talented but crazier than him and that's why he couldn't make money in music. Prince was the perfect balance of creativity and pop.

PeteSilas said:

PeteSilas said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Astasheiks said:

This is the late 70's. And for us Black Folks at that time they didn't look mf ridiculous! I asssume you are of a different race. I think that's why Prince went back to the fro his last few years, Part of it I think was saying f people who think they need to tell me how to wear my hair or a afro looks to Black!

Lots and lots of 'white' folks had afros in the 70s

And that isn't why Prince went back to the fro at all...

And were was all these White Folks with fros on Mars because I sure didn't see them? What 1 out of a 1000 and you call that a lot? And since you know so much, What was the reason for P going back to the fro?

Not only that there were more White Folks than Black Folks on this site that was saying that P should ditch the 'fro and go back to some other style when P was alive!

laurarichardson said:

PeteSilas said:

was he genetically related to Prince? I always heard half-brother but i also heard stepbrother. Interestint that two brothers of Prince had to be hospitalized for mental health issues. Of course, genius' and creative types like Prince are always a little out there too. In a recent book I read on Prince, he said something about his dad being very talented but crazier than him and that's why he couldn't make money in music. Prince was the perfect balance of creativity and pop.

--- Duane daughter and grand daughter are going to have to take DNA test so we soon find out if Duane was a half or a step brother. It does appear that mental health ran in P's family.

thank you laura, i never thought you'd be such a good source for info.

alfred jackson and omarr baker are the 1/2 brothers, but they're Matte's boys with her 1st and 3rd husbands.

+++ are they testing to see of the women are thye related to prince or duane? i thought the it was already established that DN was related to P. theyre checking to make sure they can inherit what would have been DN's portion of the estate,right? they would have to be proven blood relatives of DN and P.

Didn't know prince's mom was married 3 times.

destinyc1 said:

Didn't know prince's mom was married 3 times.

I was being polite. I'm not sure if she was married to alfred's dad or not. she would have been quite young when he was born but teenage marriage was pretty common in the south in her time.

BillieBalloon said:

Theres our man with a sweatbands on. Always into details.

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Standing out from all of them already then.

wavesofbliss said:

destinyc1 said:

Didn't know prince's mom was married 3 times.

I was being polite. I'm not sure if she was married to alfred's dad or not. she would have been quite young when he was born but teenage marriage was pretty common in the south in her time.

Yes, she was married to Alfred's dad. Alfred's affidavit states that his parents were married at the time of his birth.

mnluvsprn said:

Duane was a very abusive and angry man. Mental health issues were very prevalent in that family. Duane's son was also an abusive man with mental health issues. He committed suicide in 2005, after the mother of his child left him because he beat her up. He shot himself as the police came into the house.

It's sad that this stuff happens on a daily basis all across our country but even sadder that it happens in families such as Prince's. I listened to that interview from 1981 that Prince did with Steve Sutherland ( you can search for it on youtube) that was pretty insightful and at times hard to hear Prince speak about some of the family background especially the reason he and his mom had issues back then.

justAmeda said:

The mental health issues could be environmental (i.e. lead paint), and not necessarily the fault of either parent. Honestly, I can think of a number of potential factors given the time period and ethnicity of all involved. No need smear John L.

funksterr said:

mnluvsprn said:

funksterr said:

The mental health issues could be environmental (i.e. lead paint), and not necessarily the fault of either parent. Honestly, I can think of a number of potential factors given the time period and ethnicity of all involved. No need smear John L.

No one is smearing him. Just telling it like it is. I am not going to pretend that he was a saint. I am not going to make "environmental factor" excuses either. Some people are just not nice people.

I think it's a bit much too blame the problems of the Grandson on him. Even if John L was a factor and he probably was not, a lot of other things had to have also gone wrong before Grandad's issues come into play. So if you can reach back 3 generations to find fault, shi then, led paint is also just as likely as it is for a lot of mental health issues involving the poor and oppressed. And don't even get me started on the commonality of behaviors we would commonly consider today to be abusive in men of John L's generation. But maybe you have a personal axe to grind against the man...

funksterr said:

Astasheiks said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Lots and lots of 'white' folks had afros in the 70s

And that isn't why Prince went back to the fro at all...

And were was all these White Folks with fros on Mars because I sure didn't see them? What 1 out of a 1000 and you call that a lot? And since you know so much, What was the reason for P going back to the fro?

Not only that there were more White Folks than Black Folks on this site that was saying that P should ditch the 'fro and go back to some other style when P was alive!

there were everywhere, U probably thought they were mulattos or something
The 2nd picture is Bob Ross(RIP) always had an afro way back
Maybe U were preoccupied
He never talked about why he started wearing an afro again..

How do U know the race of members on this site unless they told U?

PeteSilas said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Alan Leeds

oh shit, i bet he's embarrassed by that pic today. My ma had a photo where she had an afro wig on, I think she threw it away many years ago. james shoulda beat his ass.

[Edited 7/29/16 23:58pm]

why be embarrassed, I like his fro

If his natural hair grows out so he could do it why not...

mnluvsprn said:

funksterr said:

I think it's a bit much too blame the problems of the Grandson on him. Even if John L was a factor and he probably was not, a lot of other things had to have also gone wrong before Grandad's issues come into play. So if you can reach back 3 generations to find fault, shi then, led paint is also just as likely as it is for a lot of mental health issues involving the poor and oppressed. And don't even get me started on the commonality of behaviors we would commonly consider today to be abusive in men of John L's generation. But maybe you have a personal axe to grind against the man...

You're kidding right? Did you read the part about abuse being passed down? I personally knew Duane Jr, so yeah I do think that some of his issues were related to both his father and John. He spent a lot of time with John as a kid, and honestly, John was an A-hole. He really was not a nice person. Why do you think P had such an on again off again relationship? The thing is a child's love for their parent supersedes all the bad in the long run.

Wow, harsh words to use when speaking about a dead person. But I appreciate your honesty and that you are not sugarcoating anything.

But what makes you use such words to describe him? Not that it´s our business but are you talking about being mean in general, psychological abuse?

Just curious.

KoolEaze said:

PeteSilas said: