cloveringold85 said:

slowlywiltingflower said:

Slowly....I do appreciate your comment/thoughts. Yes, there is a possibility that he could have had "C", but my guts tells me he did not, and also the way he was living his life and going about his business just did not seem to be that of a person who has "C". I'm sorry that you have also been affected by people close to you who are struggling with "C". I actually hate that word. I orginally replied to someone on here who claims to be a "Nurse", but she did not reply to me. I agree with you though, Prince lived his life the way he wanted to and he didn't take orders from anyone. The part I don't understand is that he was so meticulous about taking care of himself and eating healthy, and I just don't understand why he wouldn't want to stay in the hospital and get well? Whatever his reasons, we have to respect them.

I knew a woman who died recently from C. A week before her death she was at work and working harder than everyone else as normal. She said she felt a little under the weather and was going home early - but she stayed late to finish things off as normal. This was Friday. By Monday we heard the cancer had returned (from around 5 years earlier) and within the week she had died. It hit us for six. How could someone, so vibrant, so full of life be so near to death from cancer! Why wasn't she being more observant about her health? Was she avoiding further treatment? Was she in denial? She was still making plans for the future and living her life almost up to the very end.

I am not saying P had cancer. I am just saying that we don't know what happened. There are so many things that are possible. The stories coming out of the P camp are all contradictory as usual (he's had double hip replacement, or he didn't and is in pain, he's in pain all the time and taking pain killers since 2009 or earlier, or he never takes painkillers but shows no pain and is light on his feet (he clearly was), he had flu (for a long time) and can often hardly keep food down etc), but maybe those extreme symptoms were from months of slow withdrawal after which he overdoses twice in a week! Too much misinformation going on to make any sense of it.

sunset3121 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Slowly....I do appreciate your comment/thoughts. Yes, there is a possibility that he could have had "C", but my guts tells me he did not, and also the way he was living his life and going about his business just did not seem to be that of a person who has "C". I'm sorry that you have also been affected by people close to you who are struggling with "C". I actually hate that word. I orginally replied to someone on here who claims to be a "Nurse", but she did not reply to me. I agree with you though, Prince lived his life the way he wanted to and he didn't take orders from anyone. The part I don't understand is that he was so meticulous about taking care of himself and eating healthy, and I just don't understand why he wouldn't want to stay in the hospital and get well? Whatever his reasons, we have to respect them.

I knew a woman who died recently from C. A week before her death she was at work and working harder than everyone else as normal. She said she felt a little under the weather and was going home early - but she stayed late to finish things off as normal. This was Friday. By Monday we heard the cancer had returned (from around 5 years earlier) and within the week she had died. It hit us for six. How could someone, so vibrant, so full of life be so near to death from cancer! Why wasn't she being more observant about her health? Was she avoiding further treatment? Was she in denial? She was still making plans for the future and living her life almost up to the very end.

I am not saying P had cancer. I am just saying that we don't know what happened. There are so many things that are possible. The stories coming out of the P camp are all contradictory as usual (he's had double hip replacement, or he didn't and is in pain, he's in pain all the time and taking pain killers since 2009 or earlier, or he never takes painkillers but shows no pain and is light on his feet (he clearly was), he had flu (for a long time) and can often hardly keep food down etc), but maybe those extreme symptoms were from months of slow withdrawal after which he overdoses twice in a week! Too much misinformation going on to make any sense of it.

I totally understand what you are saying. Each cancer patient is very different from the other. I'm sorry about the woman you knew who passed. It's a heartbreaking thing to see anyone go through. Prince would not even take an aspirin when he was sick, so to hear that he died from an overdose of Fentanyl just seems unimaginable. But, we just don't know what was going on in his world. It still does not seem real to me.

laurarichardson said:

daingermouz2020 said:

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

I'm curious. What will your reaction be if it turns out not to be anything terminal, but just chronic? Would it upset you?

-- It would not upset me if he had chronic pain and got hooked on painkillers. What upsets is the manner in which it is being framed by the media. The guy had to big of a legacy to relegated to just being a junkie😳 I also think that if the story about the U drug is true and he accidentally took Fentanyl we are never going to find out who sold it to him. No one cares if he just seen as a junkie and not a victim.

The real issue here is not "the manner in which it is being framed by the media" but perhaps your own personal views of those with substance abuse problems.

CTron said:

laurarichardson said:

CTron said:

The real issue here is not "the manner in which it is being framed by the media" but perhaps your own personal views of those with substance abuse problems.

-- Someone has a comprehension problem. I know the difference between dependency and being a junkie. The media wants to publish stories that will get clicks. Stories about the over prescription of pain meds and what it is doing to people does not get as many clicks. If you can't see it you need to get your eyes checked.

Firstly, you're incredibly rude, but thanks for the handy observation of my apparent comprehension problems.

Secondly, explain the difference between dependency and junkie.

Your comments in this thread and others suggest you have little insight into this entire issue, aside from skimming a few internet sites. If you actually had any understanding whatsoever, you'd never dismiss the struggles of those battling addicition, whether they got there through recreational or prescribed means. You wouldn't argue semantics and throw the word junkie around like you do, that's for sure.

I stand by my original sentiment, that your thoughts are everything that is wrong with the world. The fact that you would bother to argue about which drugs he was using and how, like that makes any difference! It's still rubbish, he's still dead. Would you find a heart attack to be a more noble death than stroke? No. Please try and wrap your head around the concept that this is no different, not to most people anyway, just to you it seems

When/if the autopsy results are released, then most of the speculation will be resolved. It won't change our affection and devotion to Prince, but it would certainly shut down a lot of the negativity.

CTron said:

laurarichardson said:

CTron said: -- Someone has a comprehension problem. I know the difference between dependency and being a junkie. The media wants to publish stories that will get clicks. Stories about the over prescription of pain meds and what it is doing to people does not get as many clicks. If you can't see it you need to get your eyes checked.

Firstly, you're incredibly rude, but thanks for the handy observation of my apparent comprehension problems.

Secondly, explain the difference between dependency and junkie.

Your comments in this thread and others suggest you have little insight into this entire issue, aside from skimming a few internet sites. If you actually had any understanding whatsoever, you'd never dismiss the struggles of those battling addicition, whether they got there through recreational or prescribed means. You wouldn't argue semantics and throw the word junkie around like you do, that's for sure.

I stand by my original sentiment, that your thoughts are everything that is wrong with the world. The fact that you would bother to argue about which drugs he was using and how, like that makes any difference! It's still rubbish, he's still dead. Would you find a heart attack to be a more noble death than stroke? No. Please try and wrap your head around the concept that this is no different, not to most people anyway, just to you it seems

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Dependency- People who are addicted to medications for management of their medical problems.

Addict/junky – Person who decided of their own free will- with no medical need whatsoever to use drugs for recreational purposes.

I think there is a difference and this is my opinion. I do not much care what you think about it however, I have never belittled anyone that fell into the addict/junky level. I believe those people need help and should get it. You are like those people that think that stating “Black Lives Matter” automatically means no other lives matter. The one statement does not cancel out everyone else as being dependent does not throw out addiction as a real issue. There is a difference between someone on paid meds with actual pain and someone using drugs for the sole purpose of getting high for kicks and grins.

laurarichardson said:

CTron said:

Firstly, you're incredibly rude, but thanks for the handy observation of my apparent comprehension problems.

Secondly, explain the difference between dependency and junkie.

Your comments in this thread and others suggest you have little insight into this entire issue, aside from skimming a few internet sites. If you actually had any understanding whatsoever, you'd never dismiss the struggles of those battling addicition, whether they got there through recreational or prescribed means. You wouldn't argue semantics and throw the word junkie around like you do, that's for sure.

I stand by my original sentiment, that your thoughts are everything that is wrong with the world. The fact that you would bother to argue about which drugs he was using and how, like that makes any difference! It's still rubbish, he's still dead. Would you find a heart attack to be a more noble death than stroke? No. Please try and wrap your head around the concept that this is no different, not to most people anyway, just to you it seems

----

Dependency- People who are addicted to medications for management of their medical problems.

Addict/junky – Person who decided of their own free will- with no medical need whatsoever to use drugs for recreational purposes.

I think there is a difference and this is my opinion. I do not much care what you think about it however, I have never belittled anyone that fell into the addict/junky level. I believe those people need help and should get it. You are like those people that think that stating “Black Lives Matter” automatically means no other lives matter. The one statement does not cancel out everyone else as being dependent does not throw out addiction as a real issue. There is a difference between someone on paid meds with actual pain and someone using drugs for the sole purpose of getting high for kicks and grins.

Pain versus kicks and grins? I don't even know where to begin and quite frankly, why I even bothered to try! Appreciate your opinion of what I think about Black Lives Matter, made for a big laugh.

Now I don't want to be a jerk but you make that incredibly difficult so I'll give you a hot tip. The more you write, the more ignorant you appear.

Write less, instantly look 10% more intellingent!

CTron said:

laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:

oliviacamron said:

laurarichardson said:

Others are saying that is not the case. Whatever the case of Walgreens or not TMz was implying he was shopping for pain meds when it turns out he did get any pain meds from Dr.S or pick up any from Walgreens. TMZ was trying to manufacture the addict hanging out at the drug store trying to score pain meds. They had their agenda.

I have Walgreens by my house . Some weeks I may stop in 4 or more times. Maybe he gets things from Redbox. He likes movies.

oliviacamron said:

tmo1965 said:

There is a part of me that thinks that there was something else going on with him, but really, the symptoms that we witnessed (i.e. his appearance over the past couple of years) could also be due to drug addiction alone. I do believe that he started taking pain meds for legitimate pain though.

Yes the Fentanyl cause weight loss. There is a site with people who have had it or are still trying to get off it. It's called fentanyl withdrawal is inhumane! The people all say do not take this ever. If Prince kept trying to stop, he would get so sick and in so much pain that it would be like a terminal illness. Poor thing. I hate who gave it too him in the first place. He had enemys.

I agree!! Do we even know yet at this point WHO gave him the Fentanyl? Prince was "supposedly" taking "Percocet". Now, no good doctor would give him Fentanyl, having known his history. Pisses me off because no one is taking accountability that Prince is dead!! These doctor's should be behind bars as we speak!! Where is the justice for Prince?! No one seems to mention the synthetic opioid "U-47700" that was in Prince's system. U-47700 is 8 TIMES stronger than morphine! How did that drug even get into Prince's system? There is no way he would take that. I stand firm in my belief that there is foul-play. One day, the person who hurt our Prince and took him away will have to answer to a higher power. I pray to God that Prince gets the justice he deserves one day, soon!! And, if the family knows more than what they are saying, then they need to stand up and say something and put all these "conspiracy theories" to rest!! It's really not fair to put his beloved fans (friends) through this heartbreaking turmoil. It's really not. And, I don't want any haters coming on here and saying "its none of our business", then why are you here? Do you love Prince? Do you care? I sure do!

laurarichardson said:

rainbowchild said:

laurarichardson said:

///Sounds like he had HIV for 26 years and then AIDS. Like I said you have to disclose your sex partners and he was seeing a doctor. Charlie Shern could not keep it a secret because he was be extorted he shelled out 30 million and still could not keep it quiet.

Prince had been celibate for years, as he stated, so he probably didn't have to deal with blackmail (if indeed he was HIV positive and didn't have to disclose his status to potential partners) unlike Charlie Sheen who is still sexually active but the difference is that Charlie Sheen is still taking his meds to keep his HIV in check, while if Prince actually stopped taking his meds the last couple of years because he thought prayer had cured him and his health deteriorated because of it we'll never know for sure but the sad thing is Prince is gone. Whether or not he could have prevented his early demise if he had been medication compliant (if he did had HIV) or seek help sooner if he was addicted to pain meds, nothing we can do or say now will bring him back from the dead.

Well I do not believe he was celibate. I think he was dating Andy Allow and he invited a lot of ladies up to Paisley Park in the last two years or so. It does not mean he was sleeping with them all but read what Kandance Springs has said about P and their date. He was still actively dating women.

What is usually the end goal of dating?

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

rainbowchild said:

laurarichardson said: Prince had been celibate for years, as he stated, so he probably didn't have to deal with blackmail (if indeed he was HIV positive and didn't have to disclose his status to potential partners) unlike Charlie Sheen who is still sexually active but the difference is that Charlie Sheen is still taking his meds to keep his HIV in check, while if Prince actually stopped taking his meds the last couple of years because he thought prayer had cured him and his health deteriorated because of it we'll never know for sure but the sad thing is Prince is gone. Whether or not he could have prevented his early demise if he had been medication compliant (if he did had HIV) or seek help sooner if he was addicted to pain meds, nothing we can do or say now will bring him back from the dead.

You have to disclose to past partners as well as future partners. At these memorials you see loads of women wailing. I want someone to explain that. Well I do not believe he was celibate. I think he was dating Andy Allow and he invited a lot of ladies up to Paisley Park in the last two years or so. It does not mean he was sleeping with them all but read what Kandance Springs has said about P and their date. He was still actively dating women.

What is usually the end goal of dating? The whole he belived he could pray away AIDS smacks of some ass on some gossip board making fun of religion. It also would mean he wanted to die and since he had signed a contract to do nine more shows I do not think he was planning to die. You think writing a will might have fit into his last days with AIDS

rainbowchild said:

cloveringold85 said:

rainbowchild said:

laurarichardson said:

--/ Those people are not Prince😳 The man that told Sheila E "he needed to have sex everyday."

++ did he say that in the last decade? as a 20something it makes sense. 55 + hip and knee surgery... i doubt it. i agree that he probably hooked-up with allo. don't know with the others.

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

I agree!! Do we even know yet at this point WHO gave him the Fentanyl? Prince was "supposedly" taking "Percocet". Now, no good doctor would give him Fentanyl, having known his history. Pisses me off because no one is taking accountability that Prince is dead!! These doctor's should be behind bars as we speak!! Where is the justice for Prince?! No one seems to mention the synthetic opioid "U-47700" that was in Prince's system. U-47700 is 8 TIMES stronger than morphine! How did that drug even get into Prince's system? There is no way he would take that. I stand firm in my belief that there is foul-play. One day, the person who hurt our Prince and took him away will have to answer to a higher power. I pray to God that Prince gets the justice he deserves one day, soon!! And, if the family knows more than what they are saying, then they need to stand up and say something and put all these "conspiracy theories" to rest!! It's really not fair to put his beloved fans (friends) through this heartbreaking turmoil. It's really not. And, I don't want any haters coming on here and saying "its none of our business", then why are you here? Do you love Prince? Do you care? I sure do!

well said. I have not heard news lately but I really hope they FBI and police are still investigating where the drugs came from.

Thanks, Olivia

oliviacamron said:

rainbowchild said:

For companionship. I know of couples who had been together for years and had not been sexually active.

pop Prince loved sex. The only reason I think he would be celibate, it might be painful to move like that. One of his recent songs says " fuck the congregation, your dancing is turning me on". So,i don't think he was being celibate for the JWs.

Whoa! Prince actually said that in his song? I thought he didn't swear anymore. Personally, I feel that Prince was still "sexual". He was only human and had feelings & desires. The JW probably looks down upon if you are having sexual relations outside of marriage. That is why Prince probably tried to keep his relationships "discreet".