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Reply #30 posted 07/23/16 6:00am

Lovejunky

anangellooksdown said:

Prince always knew why he was here. To go on a spiritual journey. A spiritual journey has all kinds of bumps and bruises and hurdles and flat tires and mistakes and growth. He always loved God and appreciated this opportunity, this opportunity to use his time on earth to grow and serve, then finally go home free. His very first album "For You" was for God. He talked about these things to us in the 80s with The Cross. His spiritual journey included religion but was mostly spiritual. I don't think he knew when he wrote AOA in 2014 and earlier when he would go home; I think he had simply had an awakening of sorts and was expressing that.

Im with you 100% on this....Since he passed I have been studying everything I read about him through a spiritual Filter..

This is one EXCEPTIONAL Human,

Extremely Rare and YES...connected to GOD from the Beginning...

So many of the words he spoke in his early days were TRUTH in that he never strayed internally he was always searching, always growing, always changing,accordingly

"I would like to be remembered , not for the Colour of my Skin but for the Quality of my work"

"I believe in GOD, there is only ONE God"

"My music is a gift from GOD"

How many more of these quotes can we find peppered over his 40 year Career.?.

The conversation along these lines is just starting...

there are more people contemplating his life as something we have never seen the Likes of before....

Some people get affronted by this,

but he IS a MESSIAH ,

there is no doubt, underneath it all, Strip it all back..

he took us to CHURCH......

He brought all of us together....

How many people have described the experience of being at His Concerts as other worldly...it was like an immersion into a place where there was NOTHING but PURE JOY...

His music was a TRIP to another world space and time....

AND he had to die for people to realise what a special soul he is...

He grew up before our eyes, into a potent Singing Dancing Preaching MAN of GOD....

[Edited 7/23/16 6:05am]

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Reply #31 posted 07/23/16 6:07am

PURPLEIZED3121

Dibblekins said:

I find the 45 years 'in suspended animation' interesting and just a little spooky, if that's the right word.

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If you watch P's interview with Mel B, he says he started making music aged 12. And that from that point onwards, he kept making music in order to 'get to his destination' (which, in this interview, he implies is God / heaven). That, he says, would be the day he 'celebrates'.

.

Now, I don't know about you, but it does seem like the most amazing bit of proleptic irony that if he started viewing or using music as his way of working towards his destination aged 12, and spent 45 years in a state of 'suspended animation' doing that, it takes us to his being aged 57...And then...

.

Am I reaching? I don't know - but nobody can deny that Prince really DID seem to have some sort of second sight when it came to dates...(April 21st, anyone?)

[Edited 7/22/16 14:14pm]

totally agree with you.

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Reply #32 posted 07/28/16 5:52pm

Elvie

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herb4 said:



Elvie said:


Anyone else think his body might have been frozen quickly after his death, as in put into suspended animation? Morbid thought I know but he did more or less talk about it in Clouds.


Are you serious?



Trust me, there are people that pay to have this done. wink
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Reply #33 posted 07/28/16 8:24pm

tollyc

Wlcm2thdwn3 said:

No harm meant but Prince was taking painlillers for a long time. A lot of 'strange' things could have crossed his mind. confused

I agree. I think there is a private side of him we will never know...pain can be mental, as well as, physical pain.

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Reply #34 posted 07/28/16 8:27pm

tollyc

purplethunder3121 said:

Dibblekins said:

I find the 45 years 'in suspended animation' interesting and just a little spooky, if that's the right word.

.

If you watch P's interview with Mel B, he says he started making music aged 12. And that from that point onwards, he kept making music in order to 'get to his destination' (which, in this interview, he implies is God / heaven). That, he says, would be the day he 'celebrates'.

.

Now, I don't know about you, but it does seem like the most amazing bit of proleptic irony that if he started viewing or using music as his way of working towards his destination aged 12, and spent 45 years in a state of 'suspended animation' doing that, it takes us to his being aged 57...And then...

.

Am I reaching? I son't know - but nobody can deny that Prince really DID seem to have some sort of second sight when it came to dates...(April 21st, anyone?)

I still find the final Prince avatar with two eyes closed and the 3rd Eye opened incredibly disturbing...

100% agreement on the 3rd eye open and physical eyes closed.

If you read the last 4 years of 911 records at Paisley we could see that this wasn't the only time there was a medical emergency. And obviously they knew on the plane he needed Narcan. I think this has been happening for at least 3-4 years.

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Reply #35 posted 07/28/16 9:39pm

icequeen78

Prince was the musical jesus.... down to the death and resurrection

I'll find my interpretation of Way Back Home and post it here
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Reply #36 posted 07/28/16 9:42pm

icequeen78

I'll try my best....to interpret Way Back Home

The first time I heard this song I cried... it felt so familiar and so...right... I understood the sense of alienation and reflective tone of the song... let's break it down ...

Any person or object whatsoever
That requires your attention
Is something that has veered from its path
And preordained destiny of total enlightenment

He's saying that the purpose of all things is to reach their full potential.. self actualization (which oddly is one of my life goals)...and that when things and people command your attention they've lost their purpose... it could be that he's saying he himself started to do that.. to be a product of his fame instead of just doing what he was put on this earth to do... demonstrate love in the form of music and be self actualized in trying to attain that goal

I never wanted a typical life
Scripted role, huh a trophy wife
All I ever wanted, to be left alone
See my bed's made up at night
'Cause in my dreams I roam
Just trying to find, trying to find
My way back, back home

He never wanted the things that people thought he should have.. the family life.. the house the car the picket fence the wife and kids...but more specifically he didn't want the things people thought should be part and parcel of being a rock star and famous..(scripted role) -being told what to do (could be contractual agreements being referred to here) and listen to how he scoffs at the trophy wife.. like he's saying that trophy wives are usually not what they're cracked up to be. he just wanted to be left alone to create ... to give us his music.. his bed is made up at night because he isn't physically there.. either working hard on his music in his studio and even when he is there he's lying still in one place and not messing the sheets up because his spirit is roaming in his dreams (what people call Astral projection or an out-of -body experience) - which strangely enough came to mind when judith spoke about him saying he had to fight to get BACK into his body after his overdose on the plane so he could have been one of those people who had those experiences as a child.. (also ties in a bit to his epilepsy - brain chemistry etc)
.
So many reasons why
There's so many reasons why
I don't belong here
But now that I am I
Without fear I am
Gonna conquer with no fear
Until I find my way back home
Until I find my way back home
(Find my way back home)

This could be a variety of things... he could be saying that his experiences as a child with the fits could have ended him and he somehow made it through even though he wasn't supposed to be here. Also the sense of alienation and isolation that he experienced as a child could also contribute to his feeling of not belonging ...but now that he is here.. he's going to do what he came here to do... conquer the world through music....until it's time for him to go back to where he came from..... the feeling that I get about his "home" is almost that he is a disconnected soul... some people don't believe we have a soul ..the belief instead is that we are souls housed into the bodies we inhabit for the duration of our lives until we go back to where we came from .. where all souls originate from.. the source. This also ties into the previous paragraphs... if you think of Prince as a soul trying to get back to the original source while housed in the body that we know as "Prince".. unhappy because the soul wants to be free and go home... it makes sense...

Most people in this world (Most people in this world)are born dead
But I was born alive
(I was born with this dream)
With a dream outside my head (outside my head)
That I could find my way back home
My, my, way way back home

This is where it gets interesting .. this can allude to a very deep spiritual meaning.... if you look at the whole concept of reincarnation it is an endless cycle of life and death... we die in our previous lives and are reborn in our current lives and then we die and go on to repeat this cycle over and over again... he is saying that most people are born dead.. as in they are born unaware of their previous lives so their current birth is the only one that gives them "life" per se.. so their physical senses are the only things that they know... this life.. he is saying he was born alive..born with his knowledge from previous lives intact as in he was born knowing he had lived before .. ... and also by being born with this knowledge he's also haunted by the idea that eventually he can return to the source and he wants to get back to that source (note the longing notes of this song...also it would explain why he was so prolific in a real world sense). Also he has many times said in life that he has been here before and has known others before in another capacity..

Is this the way? (Is this the way?)

he's trying to determine if music is the way back for him

Power to the ones who could raise a child like me
The path was set
But if you look the truth will set us free
I've heard about those happy endings
But it's still a mystery
Lemme tell you about me
I'm happiest when I can see
My way back home
Can you see
My way back, my way back home


He's now back to reflection mode and saying that he has been searching for a way back to the source his entire life.. note he says Power to the ones who could raise a child like him... almost as if he is stating his parents were simply his caretakers on this earth... and all his childhood and early years point to the same exact truth...that music has always been his path to getting back to the source.. from his mothers stories about him disappearing to the music section of the dept store at 3 or 4 years old.. to his school years of being in the music room to using music to cope with the things he found himself dealing with... a method he continued to use his entire life... he used the piano and guitar to deal with his parents divorce, father leaving , mother choosing stepfather , being kicked out, being passed over by girls and sports teams, segregation in the civil rights Era, women leaving him, the death of his children , the breakup of his marriages, the death of his friends and colleagues and loves.. he's saying here.. look back.. it is now what it has always been.. a way for him to get back to the source.. the happy endings being mysterious can tie into the first part of the song where it talks about anything that distracts veers from the path... he's basically acknowledging that he has had a rough go at life and the happy ever after has eluded him and he's really happy when he's doing his music and through music he can see his way back to the source and by sharing his music with us he hopes that we can see that he's going back to his source...

So in a nutshell. Prince is telling us that he was born spiritually aware of his past lives and knowing that his music would be the only thing that could carry him closer to getting back to the source of all souls... and he longed to go back there...


The strange thing to me is that Prince in his earliest pics looked very defiant almost sad and as he got older his eyes lost that defiance and seemed almost content ..a bit sad but it was like he knew on some level he was going home.. that's my interpretation...


On another note .. I was just listening to Anotherlove and the first thing I thought was.. this song is about Manuela lol ... the lyrics.. the tone.. just screams mani... and lo and behold who got with Another love after him.. so random
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Reply #37 posted 07/29/16 6:14am

Lovejunky

icequeen78 said:

I'll try my best....to interpret Way Back Home The first time I heard this song I cried... it felt so familiar and so...right... I understood the sense of alienation and reflective tone of the song... let's break it down ... Any person or object whatsoever That requires your attention Is something that has veered from its path And preordained destiny of total enlightenment He's saying that the purpose of all things is to reach their full potential.. self actualization (which oddly is one of my life goals)...and that when things and people command your attention they've lost their purpose... it could be that he's saying he himself started to do that.. to be a product of his fame instead of just doing what he was put on this earth to do... demonstrate love in the form of music and be self actualized in trying to attain that goal I never wanted a typical life Scripted role, huh a trophy wife All I ever wanted, to be left alone See my bed's made up at night 'Cause in my dreams I roam Just trying to find, trying to find My way back, back home He never wanted the things that people thought he should have.. the family life.. the house the car the picket fence the wife and kids...but more specifically he didn't want the things people thought should be part and parcel of being a rock star and famous..(scripted role) -being told what to do (could be contractual agreements being referred to here) and listen to how he scoffs at the trophy wife.. like he's saying that trophy wives are usually not what they're cracked up to be. he just wanted to be left alone to create ... to give us his music.. his bed is made up at night because he isn't physically there.. either working hard on his music in his studio and even when he is there he's lying still in one place and not messing the sheets up because his spirit is roaming in his dreams (what people call Astral projection or an out-of -body experience) - which strangely enough came to mind when judith spoke about him saying he had to fight to get BACK into his body after his overdose on the plane so he could have been one of those people who had those experiences as a child.. (also ties in a bit to his epilepsy - brain chemistry etc) . So many reasons why There's so many reasons why I don't belong here But now that I am I Without fear I am Gonna conquer with no fear Until I find my way back home Until I find my way back home (Find my way back home) This could be a variety of things... he could be saying that his experiences as a child with the fits could have ended him and he somehow made it through even though he wasn't supposed to be here. Also the sense of alienation and isolation that he experienced as a child could also contribute to his feeling of not belonging ...but now that he is here.. he's going to do what he came here to do... conquer the world through music....until it's time for him to go back to where he came from..... the feeling that I get about his "home" is almost that he is a disconnected soul... some people don't believe we have a soul ..the belief instead is that we are souls housed into the bodies we inhabit for the duration of our lives until we go back to where we came from .. where all souls originate from.. the source. This also ties into the previous paragraphs... if you think of Prince as a soul trying to get back to the original source while housed in the body that we know as "Prince".. unhappy because the soul wants to be free and go home... it makes sense... Most people in this world (Most people in this world)are born dead But I was born alive (I was born with this dream) With a dream outside my head (outside my head) That I could find my way back home My, my, way way back home This is where it gets interesting .. this can allude to a very deep spiritual meaning.... if you look at the whole concept of reincarnation it is an endless cycle of life and death... we die in our previous lives and are reborn in our current lives and then we die and go on to repeat this cycle over and over again... he is saying that most people are born dead.. as in they are born unaware of their previous lives so their current birth is the only one that gives them "life" per se.. so their physical senses are the only things that they know... this life.. he is saying he was born alive..born with his knowledge from previous lives intact as in he was born knowing he had lived before .. ... and also by being born with this knowledge he's also haunted by the idea that eventually he can return to the source and he wants to get back to that source (note the longing notes of this song...also it would explain why he was so prolific in a real world sense). Also he has many times said in life that he has been here before and has known others before in another capacity.. Is this the way? (Is this the way?) he's trying to determine if music is the way back for him Power to the ones who could raise a child like me The path was set But if you look the truth will set us free I've heard about those happy endings But it's still a mystery Lemme tell you about me I'm happiest when I can see My way back home Can you see My way back, my way back home He's now back to reflection mode and saying that he has been searching for a way back to the source his entire life.. note he says Power to the ones who could raise a child like him... almost as if he is stating his parents were simply his caretakers on this earth... and all his childhood and early years point to the same exact truth...that music has always been his path to getting back to the source.. from his mothers stories about him disappearing to the music section of the dept store at 3 or 4 years old.. to his school years of being in the music room to using music to cope with the things he found himself dealing with... a method he continued to use his entire life... he used the piano and guitar to deal with his parents divorce, father leaving , mother choosing stepfather , being kicked out, being passed over by girls and sports teams, segregation in the civil rights Era, women leaving him, the death of his children , the breakup of his marriages, the death of his friends and colleagues and loves.. he's saying here.. look back.. it is now what it has always been.. a way for him to get back to the source.. the happy endings being mysterious can tie into the first part of the song where it talks about anything that distracts veers from the path... he's basically acknowledging that he has had a rough go at life and the happy ever after has eluded him and he's really happy when he's doing his music and through music he can see his way back to the source and by sharing his music with us he hopes that we can see that he's going back to his source... So in a nutshell. Prince is telling us that he was born spiritually aware of his past lives and knowing that his music would be the only thing that could carry him closer to getting back to the source of all souls... and he longed to go back there... The strange thing to me is that Prince in his earliest pics looked very defiant almost sad and as he got older his eyes lost that defiance and seemed almost content ..a bit sad but it was like he knew on some level he was going home.. that's my interpretation... On another note .. I was just listening to Anotherlove and the first thing I thought was.. this song is about Manuela lol ... the lyrics.. the tone.. just screams mani... and lo and behold who got with Another love after him.. so random

This is a profound breakdown..I have to read it again and again....Good Job Girl...

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Reply #38 posted 07/29/16 7:00am

Lovejunky

icequeen78 said:

Prince was the musical jesus.... down to the death and resurrection I'll find my interpretation of Way Back Home and post it here

I have been waiting for this conversation to open up..Thank you

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Reply #39 posted 07/29/16 9:51am

herb4

Yeah that was a fine essay on "Way Back Home". The whole album has this weird, spooky, ethereal quality to it that's hard to shake. Aside from "Funk N Roll", there's really not much of a party atmosphere to it, like, at ALL.

I swear, and I can't shake, this idea that there's more going on this record than we think. Especially in the wake of his death.

Whoever posted about the "suspended animation for 45 years" thing made a really good observation, especially on the math involved. This album feels like a coda or a sumation, especially the affirmation parts and feels like a goodbye or at least a revelation of...something. It's not as blatant as what Bowie did with Blackstar but it kind of feels the same tonally.

Maybe when Prince began this record was when he had first received news of a terminal illness, an idea I still can't quite shake. He was giving more and more creative control to young people, speaking about how "music belongs to the young" and referring to "passing a torch". He seemed more open and reflective, marked by the back and forth banter of the P&M shows. He didn't look good and was alarmingly thin and frail.

That shot on the back cover of him all alone peeking out the window is eerie. A lot of the lyrics on this record refer to the past too and use a lot of past tense lyrical descriptions in The Breakdown, Way Back Home and The Gold Standard. Lyrics like "Never wanted", "There used to be", "I used to want"...maybe I'm reaching but...

We just want to let you know that the medication you were given
Has put you in a suspended animation for quite some time
Well, in fact, about 45 years
But where you are now
Is a place that doesn't require time
That saying, you are completely safe
And we are here to help you



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Reply #40 posted 07/29/16 10:38am

ou812Ewokadood
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Wlcm2thdwn3 said:

No harm meant but Prince was taking painlillers for a long time. A lot of 'strange' things could have crossed his mind. confused

No harm taken but just want to say that if you really need the pain killers you do not get high. I know this first hand.

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Reply #41 posted 07/29/16 4:17pm

icequeen78

Dibblekins said:

I find the 45 years 'in suspended animation' interesting and just a little spooky, if that's the right word.


.



If you watch P's interview with Mel B, he says he started making music aged 12. And that from that point onwards, he kept making music in order to 'get to his destination' (which, in this interview, he implies is God / heaven). That, he says, would be the day he 'celebrates'.


!a

.


Now, I don't know about you, but it does seem like the most amazing bit of proleptic irony that if he started viewing or using music as his way of working towards his destination aged 12, and spent 45 years in a state o!f 'suspended animation' doing that, it takes us to his being aged 57...And then...



.


Am I reaching? I don't know - but nobody can deny that Prince really DID seem to have some sort of second sight when it came to dates...(April 21st, anyone?)

[Edited 7/22/16 14:14pm]


Actually I kinda like this .... makes for good thought 0
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Reply #42 posted 07/29/16 5:12pm

herb4

ou812Ewokadoodle said:

Wlcm2thdwn3 said:

No harm meant but Prince was taking painlillers for a long time. A lot of 'strange' things could have crossed his mind. confused

No harm taken but just want to say that if you really need the pain killers you do not get high. I know this first hand.

Co sign. This can not be emphasized enough.

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Reply #43 posted 07/29/16 5:22pm

morningsong

herb4 said:

ou812Ewokadoodle said:

No harm taken but just want to say that if you really need the pain killers you do not get high. I know this first hand.

Co sign. This can not be emphasized enough.

I think that's what's big on a lot of people's mind.

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Reply #44 posted 07/29/16 5:47pm

icequeen78

Also Jesus died at 33....Prince died at 57. The number of years between those two ages is 12. 12 is a number connected to time... 12 hours in the morning.. 12 in the night. 12 months in a year .....just saw an interesting observation I noted...
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Reply #45 posted 07/29/16 6:59pm

wonder505

Ive been listening to this album a lot lately and it continues to take my breath away. Very beautiful and spiritual and the lyrics are very telling. His most recent work, just brilliant.

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Reply #46 posted 07/29/16 9:46pm

Lovejunky

anangellooksdown said:

Prince always knew why he was here. To go on a spiritual journey. A spiritual journey has all kinds of bumps and bruises and hurdles and flat tires and mistakes and growth. He always loved God and appreciated this opportunity, this opportunity to use his time on earth to grow and serve, then finally go home free. His very first album "For You" was for God. He talked about these things to us in the 80s with The Cross. His spiritual journey included religion but was mostly spiritual. I don't think he knew when he wrote AOA in 2014 and earlier when he would go home; I think he had simply had an awakening of sorts and was expressing that.

I see that...............

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Reply #47 posted 07/30/16 1:09am

icequeen78

Yea. I listened to way back home one time and just felt that he was different ...

He was also a life path 9. And that life path is littered with all sorts of trials and tribulations that would break the average person....but those with this life path usually triumph and head towards their destiny of self actualization... trust me.. I'm a 9
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Reply #48 posted 07/30/16 9:33am

doves4ever

Lovejunky said:



anangellooksdown said:


Prince always knew why he was here. To go on a spiritual journey. A spiritual journey has all kinds of bumps and bruises and hurdles and flat tires and mistakes and growth. He always loved God and appreciated this opportunity, this opportunity to use his time on earth to grow and serve, then finally go home free. His very first album "For You" was for God. He talked about these things to us in the 80s with The Cross. His spiritual journey included religion but was mostly spiritual. I don't think he knew when he wrote AOA in 2014 and earlier when he would go home; I think he had simply had an awakening of sorts and was expressing that.


Im with you 100% on this....Since he passed I have been studying everything I read about him through a spiritual Filter..



This is one EXCEPTIONAL Human,



Extremely Rare and YES...connected to GOD from the Beginning...



So many of the words he spoke in his early days were TRUTH in that he never strayed internally he was always searching, always growing, always changing,accordingly



"I would like to be remembered , not for the Colour of my Skin but for the Quality of my work"



"I believe in GOD, there is only ONE God"



"My music is a gift from GOD"



How many more of these quotes can we find peppered over his 40 year Career.?.



The conversation along these lines is just starting...


there are more people contemplating his life as something we have never seen the Likes of before....


Some people get affronted by this,


but he IS a MESSIAH ,


there is no doubt, underneath it all, Strip it all back..


he took us to CHURCH.....


He brought all of us together....


How many people have described the experience of being at His Concerts as other worldly...it was like an immersion into a place where there was NOTHING but PURE JOY...


His music was a TRIP to another world space and time....


AND he had to die for people to realise what a special soul he is...



He grew up before our eyes, into a potent Singing Dancing Preaching MAN of GOD....






[Edited 7/23/16 6:05am]

[i]

Totally agree with both of you - so glad someone else can see this...
[Edited 7/30/16 9:44am]
"Despite everything, no one can dictate who you are to other people". - prn
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Reply #49 posted 07/30/16 11:26am

ou812Ewokadood
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morningsong said:

herb4 said:

Co sign. This can not be emphasized enough.

I think that's what's big on a lot of people's mind.

I can understand why people might have this on their mind. Doctor's don't know how to treat pain and I can't emphasize this enough. You have good doctors and you have bad doctors. The bad ones don't really care about getting to the bottom of why you have pain and just prescribe pain meds. The good ones work on what is causing the pain and take into consideration all the options. Once a program has been designed you start treatment and that is time consuming. The treatment plan might include chiropractic twice a week, pain doctor once a week and physical therapy twice a week. Who has time for that when working? There has been times when I chose the pain meds instead of treatment due to financial and work conflicts. Just because you take pain meds it does not mean you are an addict.

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Reply #50 posted 07/31/16 3:28pm

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When the song was first released, I said the spoken parts seemed heavily inspired by Vanilla Sky. I still believe this to be the case as it echoes the final moments of that film QUITE a lot. ...and Prince is often inspired by movies - The Matrix, Barbarella, etc...

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Reply #51 posted 07/31/16 3:42pm

nonames

icequeen78 said:

Also Jesus died at 33....Prince died at 57. The number of years between those two ages is 12. 12 is a number connected to time... 12 hours in the morning.. 12 in the night. 12 months in a year .....just saw an interesting observation I noted...

Maths have changed a lot since I was at school...
[Edited 7/31/16 16:51pm]
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Reply #52 posted 07/31/16 4:31pm

Dolphinking23

Prince saved my life. plain and simple....

[Edited 7/31/16 16:32pm]

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Reply #53 posted 07/31/16 10:41pm

icequeen78

nonames said:

icequeen78 said:

Also Jesus died at 33....Prince died at 57. The number of years between those two ages is 12. 12 is a number connected to time... 12 hours in the morning.. 12 in the night. 12 months in a year .....just saw an interesting observation I noted...

Maths have changed a lot since I was at school...
[Edited 7/31/16 16:51pm]


Haha. You're right.. and you're British. I can tell because you said maths and not math lol.... I think I didn't write down all in my head. Prince had a symbolic period of time when he went as the love symbol . From about 35 to 45 years old..which is when he came back as being Prince.... so he started once again at 45 57 - 45 is 12. I left that part out I think .. didn't Jesus also disappear from 12 years old until he died at 33. A gap in time as well
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Reply #54 posted 07/31/16 10:56pm

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nonames said:

icequeen78 said:

Also Jesus died at 33....Prince died at 57. The number of years between those two ages is 12. 12 is a number connected to time... 12 hours in the morning.. 12 in the night. 12 months in a year .....just saw an interesting observation I noted...

Maths have changed a lot since I was at school...


I got stump there myself.
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Reply #55 posted 08/01/16 1:31am

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icequeen78 said:

nonames said:


Maths have changed a lot since I was at school...
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Haha. You're right.. and you're British. I can tell because you said maths and not math lol.... I think I didn't write down all in my head. Prince had a symbolic period of time when he went as the love symbol . From about 35 to 45 years old..which is when he came back as being Prince.... so he started once again at 45 57 - 45 is 12. I left that part out I think .. didn't Jesus also disappear from 12 years old until he died at 33. A gap in time as well

I'm Spanish, but speak British English (I knew it's math in the US, though!). I'm still not sure I follow you, but 57-45 definitely equals 12 smile
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