Art Official Age was revealing in that track and in Breakdown and Way Back Home. Even Time.

I just thought he just finished watching 'Open Your Eyes' (as opposed to 'Vanilla Sky'). I don't know, he thought things that don't even cross my mind so okay. I'll roll.

No harm meant but Prince was taking painlillers for a long time. A lot of 'strange' things could have crossed his mind.

Wlcm2thdwn3 said:

laurarichardson said:

anangellooksdown said:

Art Official Age (studio album released 9/30/14) has a song called "Clouds" that is very telling of the spiritual awakening Prince had. Don't stop reading now... I've seen people try to make literal, "surface", physical sense of this song. Some even say it was a "foretelling" of his death. Nope. Not literally. It was a sign of his old self dying and a new self being born. It was an album about living. He was trying to tell us that this is what he wanted for us. Oh, he tried to tell us in so many ways. These lyrics from "Clouds" are most telling. A woman's voice says: "Mr. Nelson, Mr. Nelson, can you hear my voice? Sir, we know you're a little bit groggy And you're probably going to find it hard to speak But don't try to talk or process too much now We just want to let you know that the medication you were given Has put you in a suspended animation for quite some time Well, in fact, about 45 years But where you are now Is a place that doesn't require time That saying, you are completely safe And we are here to help you." The "medication you were given" is not pain medication (well, not physical pain medication); it's the emotional medication, or conditioning, we are all taught from an early age, the LIE, about how to feel, how to think, what to do, in order to feel better and be successful that Prince is talking about. It's the illusion we live in, the SPELL we are under that our parents, teachers and society taught us when we were little because they were taught it TOO when they were little - and they never broke out of it to get free. He wanted our generation to be free more than anything else and he used his music openly to get this message across to us. a cute girlfriend, a husband, money, approval, acceptance, power, getting people to like you, being right, even being "good" - is not what makes us truly happy. Some of those things can be the fruit, or result, of our spiritual evolvement, but our lives should be a journey where the Truth can be found. True Freedom. He wanted that for each of us and therefore eventually for the world at large. Remember him typing that long explanation on the other website about how from the first words you were taught, this illusion, this conditioning, began? That was one attempt he made to get this message across to us. He was hoping his fans would hear him. The "suspended animation" he was under for "45 years" was his conditioning, the illusion. As my spiritual teacher says, the illusion is a big trick! "Where you are now is a place that doesn't require time. That saying, you are completely safe": He didn't mean he was going to die physically; he meant the death of the illusion he had been under. Some of you know that there is no "time" when we're close to God or our True Selves; there's no past (depression) nor future worries...there's only the Present Moment. And as he says, he is totally safe and protected in each moment of life now (and it didn't matter what was going on around him). Other lyrics on this album tell the story too. I'd love to hear others' viewpoints about the man he became spiritually. He had so much more to do. He really was just beginning. He wanted us to be free in our minds. [Edited 7/21/16 17:43pm]

I really like where you are going with this.

anangellooksdown said:

You mean to tell me nobody saw either of these movies.

The original full Spanish version


the same version except dubbed in English (notice Penelope Cruz, someone Prince dated once)


The American remake of the one above, that also had Penelope Cruz in it when Tom Cruise was dating her.

Premise: a man who was put in suspended animation

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sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:

--/ I will never be made to belive he was taking those pills for a long period of time.

I just read a CNN article from last month (?) that mentioned his family reported a struggle he had with Percocet 20 yrs ago. Aaaanyway, Prince was quite clever lyrically. I love that about him. One thing I hope we learn more about in the future are the true meanings behind more songs' lyrics.

A mouthpiece for two dead siblings. Yeah, I have total faith in that source.

Elvie said:

Anyone else think his body might have been frozen quickly after his death, as in put into suspended animation? Morbid thought I know but he did more or less talk about it in Clouds.

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No... unless there was no autopsy, because an autopsy is very invasive... organs removed, chest cavity cut wide open, etc.

I find the 45 years 'in suspended animation' interesting and just a little spooky, if that's the right word.

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If you watch P's interview with Mel B, he says he started making music aged 12. And that from that point onwards, he kept making music in order to 'get to his destination' (which, in this interview, he implies is God / heaven). That, he says, would be the day he 'celebrates'.

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Now, I don't know about you, but it does seem like the most amazing bit of proleptic irony that if he started viewing or using music as his way of working towards his destination aged 12, and spent 45 years in a state of 'suspended animation' doing that, it takes us to his being aged 57...And then...

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Am I reaching? I don't know - but nobody can deny that Prince really DID seem to have some sort of second sight when it came to dates...(April 21st, anyone?)

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Dibblekins said:

I find the 45 years 'in suspended animation' interesting and just a little spooky, if that's the right word.

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If you watch P's interview with Mel B, he says he started making music aged 12. And that from that point onwards, he kept making music in order to 'get to his destination' (which, in this interview, he implies is God / heaven). That, he says, would be the day he 'celebrates'.

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Now, I don't know about you, but it does seem like the most amazing bit of proleptic irony that if he started viewing or using music as his way of working towards his destination aged 12, and spent 45 years in a state of 'suspended animation' doing that, it takes us to his being aged 57...And then...

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Am I reaching? I son't know - but nobody can deny that Prince really DID seem to have some sort of second sight when it came to dates...(April 21st, anyone?)

I still find the final Prince avatar with two eyes closed and the 3rd Eye opened incredibly disturbing...

I posted something similar in another thread. Glad you wrote this up. If I can find it, I'll cross post it here.

Elvie said:

Anyone else think his body might have been frozen quickly after his death, as in put into suspended animation? Morbid thought I know but he did more or less talk about it in Clouds.

Are you serious?

herb4 said:

anangellooksdown said:

herb4 said:

I posted something similar in another thread. Glad you wrote this up. If I can find it, I'll cross post it here.

Look forward to it if you can find it. Dibblekins, good catch on the years. Could be. Often around age 12 is when we start seeking relief for the pains of life, for different reasons. That was the exact age I started. It's a really crucial age for kids.

I became addicted to books around that age...

anangellooksdown said:

herb4 said:

I posted something similar in another thread. Glad you wrote this up. If I can find it, I'll cross post it here.

Look forward to it if you can find it. Dibblekins, good catch on the years. Could be. Often around age 12 is when we start seeking relief for the pains of life, for different reasons. That was the exact age I started. It's a really crucial age for kids.

Indeed...

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It just seems remarkable that he talks about how he wanted to put music out non-stop, so he could reach that much-desired destination as quickly as possible. Certainly, he didn't seem to fear death, but be happy to embrace it.

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Given that he released AOA towards the end of 2014, I can't help but wonder if, when he wrote 'Clouds', he already had an inkling that he was approaching his final destination (ie knew he was unwell, or at least not long for this world) - hence the 45 years...

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As I say, I'm happy to admit this is all just speculation on my part - but, nobody can deny that P. was undoubtedly a 'Beautiful Strange' soul...

Dibblekins said:

BillieBalloon said:

Dibblekins said:

I find the 45 years 'in suspended animation' interesting and just a little spooky, if that's the right word.

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If you watch P's interview with Mel B, he says he started making music aged 12. And that from that point onwards, he kept making music in order to 'get to his destination' (which, in this interview, he implies is God / heaven). That, he says, would be the day he 'celebrates'.

.

Now, I don't know about you, but it does seem like the most amazing bit of proleptic irony that if he started viewing or using music as his way of working towards his destination aged 12, and spent 45 years in a state of 'suspended animation' doing that, it takes us to his being aged 57...And then...

.

Am I reaching? I don't know - but nobody can deny that Prince really DID seem to have some sort of second sight when it came to dates...(April 21st, anyone?)

[Edited 7/22/16 14:14pm]

In 2014 when the song was released he was 55. Minus 45 years and that makes him 10. I dont think Prince had a clue he would die at 57.

He could have written the song in 1987, lol - the date when it was written is irrelevant, really! My point, if there is one, is that he entered his state of 'suspended animation', aka ceaseless music-making, at the age of 12 - and it just seems ironic that it ended 45 years later, as per the song.
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You're quite right - he may well not have had a clue about his demise on a conscious level...Subconsciously, however - well, who knows...There's a lot more to the power of the human mind than we can ever fully grasp. Certainly, I've heard tell of people who have foretold the age / dates / nature of their own passing (amongst other significant things) or at least had a vague sense of it - which they've shrugged off.

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Anyway, I'm not one to normally make a case for these sorts of things - I just found it a very curious set of circumstances.

Dibblekins said:

BillieBalloon said:

Dibblekins said: In 2014 when the song was released he was 55. Minus 45 years and that makes him 10. I dont think Prince had a clue he would die at 57.

He could have written the song in 1987, lol - the date when it was written is irrelevant, really! My point, if there is one, is that he entered his state of 'suspended animation', aka ceaseless music-making, at the age of 12 - and it just seems ironic that it ended 45 years later, as per the song.
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You're quite right - he may well not have had a clue about his demise on a conscious level...Subconsciously, however - well, who knows...There's a lot more to the power of the human mind than we can ever fully grasp. Certainly, I've heard tell of people who have foretold the age / dates / nature of their own passing (amongst other significant things) or at least had a vague sense of it - which they've shrugged off.

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Anyway, I'm not one to normally make a case for these sorts of things - I just found it a very curious set of circumstances.

Indeed.

anangellooksdown said:

herb4 said:

I posted something similar in another thread. Glad you wrote this up. If I can find it, I'll cross post it here.

Look forward to it if you can find it. Dibblekins, good catch on the years. Could be. Often around age 12 is when we start seeking relief for the pains of life, for different reasons. That was the exact age I started. It's a really crucial age for kids.

Here's part of it.

AoA, especially the back end, is incredibly haunting.

Listening to it with the benefit of hindsight is spooky too. It really sounds like someone who's sort of saying goodbye and seems resigned to his fate. His use of past tense seems more pronounced too. There was something about that record - a purpose to it and a very revealing sense of self and vulnerability- that spoke to him coming "full circle". Even the cover is comprised entirely of circles (the fro, the CD's on the background and the three sunglass lenses). I can't shake this idea that he was sick and that this was a real statement he was trying to make, albeit in his usual cryptic, off-handed way. A "last hurrah" and, oddly, even a look back.

H&R Phase 1 & 2 make more sense in this context too. They feel like...maybe not throwaways...but just a bit of tossing stuff out there while he still had time, seeing how many "phases" he could reach before he died, and just a basic exercise in getting songs released. If he had titled them STAGE 1 and STAGE 2, I'd be more convinced than ever that he had cancer.

He didn't LOOK right. Not in a "well, shit, of course. He's 57" way but in a drained, glassy, sunken and tired way that I have unfortunately seen before up close too often. "Unhealthy" is the only word I can think of and make up can only hide so much.

herb4 said: