Reply #120 posted 07/23/16 9:38am
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kewlschool said:
DollyDagger said:
beautifulone7 said:
I have only skimmed through this thread, so this probably isn't a new thought...
but I agree while those weren't the greatest singles for "commercial" success, Prince *IN MY OPINION* began to lose commercial appeal after Lovesexy- most people (in the USA) were like WTF? I feel like as moderate Prince fan during that time (I was a teenager) with Lovesexy you were either a Prince fan living (in some degree) in Prince world, or not. Batman kept him in the public eye because the movie was immensely popular, but Graffiti Bridge was much balleyhooed. D&P brought him back with the singles, but I agree the presence of Tony M was a big "no" and precipitated his image from an innovator to an imitator with his godawful rapping.
So the *commerical* singles for Symbol were like the the finals nail in the coffin to me. I don't know very many non-Prince fans who have the album or even listened to it in its entirety when it came out. The promotion and video order at that time Sexy MF and Seven was just oddly timed.
*JUST MY OPINION*
 Thank you for mentioning Lovesexy - a had a close guy friend who hated Prince when Purple Rain came out. Just because of the way he dressed, the makeup, etc. All the things that made me love him even more than I did. He came to work one morning and I had hung the complete Purple Rain poster in his office behind his desk!!!! 
When the cover of Lovesexy hit stores, guys I knew hated it!!! Please, someone, help me understand the hair, the pose, the thought process???!! I still worshipped him but I admit to being puzzled. Yes, he was dressed in lace and it was see through but he was still really masculine. That nude cover pose - it still freaks me out. Mostly, the hair!!! (Still better than the elf era hair!)
It was a spiritual rebirth picture. The nudity was like when your born nude. It wasn't sexual nudity. The flower in the back ground was the sexual gesture. As in Prince's music the sacred and the sin is represented on the cover. Thank you for the clarification. Makes sense knowing what he has done in later work. |
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Reply #121 posted 07/23/16 10:19am
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The whole album is fucking genius. sure there are some yuk moments on it, the end of The Continental, the rap in Love 2 The 9s, Tony M on Arrogance and The Flow. the last 3rd of the album is awesome. 7, God Created Woman, 3 Chains Of Gold, Sacrifice Of Victor.
She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
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Reply #122 posted 07/23/16 7:36pm
ksgemini63 |
DollyDagger said: kewlschool said: People the cover was just gross. It helped Kill that album M
DollyDagger said:
beautifulone7 said:
I have only skimmed through this thread, so this probably isn't a new thought...
but I agree while those weren't the greatest singles for "commercial" success, Prince *IN MY OPINION* began to lose commercial appeal after Lovesexy- most people (in the USA) were like WTF? I feel like as moderate Prince fan during that time (I was a teenager) with Lovesexy you were either a Prince fan living (in some degree) in Prince world, or not. Batman kept him in the public eye because the movie was immensely popular, but Graffiti Bridge was much balleyhooed. D&P brought him back with the singles, but I agree the presence of Tony M was a big "no" and precipitated his image from an innovator to an imitator with his godawful rapping.
So the *commerical* singles for Symbol were like the the finals nail in the coffin to me. I don't know very many non-Prince fans who have the album or even listened to it in its entirety when it came out. The promotion and video order at that time Sexy MF and Seven was just oddly timed.
*JUST MY OPINION*
Thank you for mentioning Lovesexy - a had a close guy friend who hated Prince when Purple Rain came out. Just because of the way he dressed, the makeup, etc. All the things that made me love him even more than I did. He came to work one morning and I had hung the complete Purple Rain poster in his office behind his desk!!!!
When the cover of Lovesexy hit stores, guys I knew hated it!!! Please, someone, help me understand the hair, the pose, the thought process???!! I still worshipped him but I admit to being puzzled. Yes, he was dressed in lace and it was see through but he was still really masculine. That nude cover pose - it still freaks me out. Mostly, the hair!!! (Still better than the elf era hair!)
It was a spiritual rebirth picture. The nudity was like when your born nude. It wasn't sexual nudity. The flower in the back ground was the sexual gesture. As in Prince's music the sacred and the sin is represented on the cover. Thank you for the clarification. Makes sense knowing what he has done in later work. |
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Reply #123 posted 07/24/16 5:59am
rob1965 
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twistyt said: RodeoSchro said: You mean the guy who went on to play the Super Bowl; who had the most successful tour of 2004 despite charging half of what everyone else was charging; the guy who had a #1 debut album with "3121"; the guy who redefined what a live show is?
That guy?
Heck, if that's "killing a career" then someone please kill mine! Exactly. People kill me with this nonsense of Prince just completely falling off the Clift after 1992. Agreed. Prince had the ability to re-invent his music over again while at the same time staying true to himself and his sound. Even though not always clearly present 'in the charts', he knew how to keep the attention to his music. Even after the so successful 80s and early 90s. He knew how to redefine music and use all kinds of musical styles and still stay 'Prince'. He always was a musical force to be reckoned with. Who knows, maybe even from up above he will stay that way with all the material that has yet to come. It's not over, not by a long shot. 'Liberate My Mind' |
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Reply #124 posted 07/24/16 9:44am
ksgemini63 |
I only saw him twice and it was that tour I was at that show. Remember when the girl jumped on stage and threw her arms around him durin PR solo. I was in front. He did NOT look happy. The store I worked at ironically is 25 minutes away from Hartford timmie said: LOL Hartford Civic Center 1988 Lovesexy tour , stood near and watched Dr Fink at Al Franklin's Music World ask the owner why the album wasn't on display since they were playing there that night - too young and afraid to say hello 
ksgemini63 said:
I worked in a music store part time in 88 and we had to hide Lovesexy behind the counter. And I even think there was an alternate cover with just his face closeup Parade and Kiss did decently Had he kept the Revolution at 5 people and toured in summer of 86 Parade would have done even better. After that a few hits from sign and other than D & P it was over in us commercially. DollyDagger said:
Thank you for mentioning Lovesexy - a had a close guy friend who hated Prince when Purple Rain came out. Just because of the way he dressed, the makeup, etc. All the things that made me love him even more than I did. He came to work one morning and I had hung the complete Purple Rain poster in his office behind his desk!!!!
When the cover of Lovesexy hit stores, guys I knew hated it!!! Please, someone, help me understand the hair, the pose, the thought process???!! I still worshipped him but I admit to being puzzled. Yes, he was dressed in lace and it was see through but he was still really masculine. That nude cover pose - it still freaks me out. Mostly, the hair!!! (Still better than the elf era hair!)
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