avajane said:

In the Chris Rock interview he states that he used sexuality as a way to garner attention and it worked. But he also stated that as a gemini, he had this female and male part of him as well, so it wasn't all an act. Like most people who grow up and mature (hopefully), their outlook in life changes. Like in the interview with Arsenio Hall, he says "there are many things I don't do anymore and some things I still do." He just grew up and I think his religion may have made him a bit more conservative, but he seemed to be heading that path regardless.

And I love his interview with George Lopez (2011?) also. Of course he was an older, mature man by then but there was still that whiff of shyness yet he was more open to talk and seemed more comfortable in doing so.

zoso1978 said:

Here is a part of a blog I wrote about the song "Way Back Home" in which I touch on his use of sexuality, found here: https://onevoice4peace.co...back-home/

If you feel you do not belong here, your choice is to allow fear to hold you back from completing your purpose, or to move forward with that purpose without fear. And this is something that Prince has done throughout his career. He never blended in with the wood work. In fact, he went in the opposite direction. He made sure he stood out. How do you get the world’s attention? How do you stand out in a crowd of people and make people pay attention to you so that you can spread a message the world needs to hear? You go on stage in a pair of bikini briefs, emphasizing sexuality (because sex sells), and you sing about God. It doesn’t get much more fearless than that. And the dichotomy between the visual image portrayed and the message given, I mean, incredibly fearless. This drew people to Prince, because he was highlighting what people were chasing, what they were focused on, and doing it so well in his dress and movements, but then he would point them where they truly needed to put their focus. There is a saying by Confuscius, “When the wise man points at the Moon, the imbecile examines the finger .” There were a lot of people examining Prince, just saying…

CalhounSq said:

zoso1978 said:

Stop staring at picture.....

In reading some of the personal stories that have been posted, one of the band members (maybe Dez or Andre) said that they were doing a show & I think he said the manager (?) told Prince he wasn't wearing underwear & it showed & Prince needed to wear underwear. Well, he said Prince got "that" look & then he only wore underwear, no pants! Thank you SO much for that!

As for heels, Prince said the women love them. Yes Prince, yes, we do, very much!!

I looooove that story!

As for the heels, I think women were fine with them, but that ain't why he wore them. He could say that shit in a million interviews but we all know he learned how to work them shits to get some height I am not mad at him either
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purplethunder3121 said:

PeteSilas said:

he realized early that sex sells and he did it up to the hilt. Personally, I don't even know if he was that driven sexually, it may have been just a ploy to get attention. Bruce Springsteen once honestly said something that I've never really heard a rockstar say "the public Bruce Springsteen doesn't exist". I think that may have been true for Prince too. I'm sure there were elements of the image that they embodied but I don't think it's accurate to real life. Also, we must remember, in earlier eras, it was very common for black males to soften their masculinity just to get over. Black males had to comprimise their masculinity to crossover, it went back to Little Richard and before. I once heard Billy Eckstine say that he had it hard because the public wanted high voiced black males in his era. I was also surprised when i read a little richard interview where he said he consciously played up his femininity so that he wouldn't be a threat. Maybe a joke, something to look at, but anything but a threat to white society. It worked. I also believe that Prince was just young and doing all he could to go against the grain, like the Punks did, anything you could do to be on the opposite side of the greater society is what he went for. Maybe because he was overdisciplined as a child, i don't know, but I believe that's whey he did many things. Whether he was gay or bi, I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if he was bi but I am positive he was much more into women. Gay men usually hang out with other men whenever they can, Prince always, always hung out with women whenever possible and also hired them for his band. third eye girl is probably the most extreme example of this habit.

I'm pretty sure he did a lot more performing and talking than screwing but he was pretty sexually driven anyways. Good point about the softening of traditional masculinity. Although in Prince's case it would have been extremely difficult to perform traditional masculinity anyways in large part because he was so small and petite (Prince could shop my closet with little problem) and most people are way into sexual dimorphism (Which is why tall and/or fat women have problems performing traditional femininity.).

He was epic an Gemini with a firm grasp on the duality of his nature. He knew damn well he was fine as frog's hair and figured out how to appeal to both men and women to get the largest buck$ for the bang.

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During the Chris Rock interview Prince said the following:

“Once my mother remarried,” he explained to Rock, “it was during the time period in my life where she had to teach me about the birds and the bees. And I’ve never asked her about this, but I think there was some sort of plan to initiate me heavy and quick. I was given Playboy magazine, and there was erotic literature laying around. It was very easily picked up. It was pretty heavy at the time. I think it really affected my sexualty a great deal.”

Why didnt Chris Rock follow up on that answer? Why was his Mother giving him Playboys at an early age? Did she think Prince was showing too much of a feminine side so she wanted to introduce him to porn to "man him up"?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

During the Chris Rock interview Prince said the following:

“Once my mother remarried,” he explained to Rock, “it was during the time period in my life where she had to teach me about the birds and the bees. And I’ve never asked her about this, but I think there was some sort of plan to initiate me heavy and quick. I was given Playboy magazine, and there was erotic literature laying around. It was very easily picked up. It was pretty heavy at the time. I think it really affected my sexualty a great deal.”

Why didnt Chris Rock follow up on that answer? Why was his Mother giving him Playboys at an early age? Did she think Prince was showing too much of a feminine side so she wanted to introduce him to porn to "man him up"?

Well, that certainly backfired spectacularly if that was her goal!

Okay, maybe not spectacularly, but it certainly didn't turn out in the way she might have been imagining...

Home slice wasn't buying it.

I think Prince was 99% straight! He may have dabbled a bit when he was young but didn't stay with it too long. Felt bad about it to a degree and stopped.

He knew that the appeal it had to some people and went with it. His lyrics and his view of women at his taste in the says IMO that he love woman and the past was the past.

nursev said:

I mean from his first appearance on the scene he played upon his sexuality in his clothing choices, his appearance and he played upon people's needs and fears of sexuality U gotta give it to him...he was the best at doing that I mean for years he had people actually questioning his sexuality The man loved too much so I knew better than that But why would a person use those aspects to further their career then tell people not to do the things he did? Let's Discuss without getting this thread locked

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In ten words. He was young and ambitious, then became older and wiser.

In three words. He was young.

nursev said:

I mean from his first appearance on the scene he played upon his sexuality in his clothing choices, his appearance and he played upon people's needs and fears of sexuality U gotta give it to him...he was the best at doing that I mean for years he had people actually questioning his sexuality The man loved too much so I knew better than that But why would a person use those aspects to further their career then tell people not to do the things he did? Let's Discuss without getting this thread locked

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I would gladly give it 2 him. Wait what's the question?

ACharmed1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

During the Chris Rock interview Prince said the following:

“Once my mother remarried,” he explained to Rock, “it was during the time period in my life where she had to teach me about the birds and the bees. And I’ve never asked her about this, but I think there was some sort of plan to initiate me heavy and quick. I was given Playboy magazine, and there was erotic literature laying around. It was very easily picked up. It was pretty heavy at the time. I think it really affected my sexualty a great deal.”

Why didnt Chris Rock follow up on that answer? Why was his Mother giving him Playboys at an early age? Did she think Prince was showing too much of a feminine side so she wanted to introduce him to porn to "man him up"?

Uhh if U R implying that he was showing gay tendencies that'd be a big NO. There are tons of stories with Andre and early friends of how P was an insane skirt chaser even before high school.

The more logical explanation of this would be that sex wasn't openly talked about esp between parents and their children (same as today pretty much) so instead of talking about it that was her way of dealing with it. A kind of sweep it under the rug attitude so to speak. When U think of it that way it certainly would explain P's behaviour on relationships sexual, romantic, or otherwise eh?

Blakbear said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

During the Chris Rock interview Prince said the following:

“Once my mother remarried,” he explained to Rock, “it was during the time period in my life where she had to teach me about the birds and the bees. And I’ve never asked her about this, but I think there was some sort of plan to initiate me heavy and quick. I was given Playboy magazine, and there was erotic literature laying around. It was very easily picked up. It was pretty heavy at the time. I think it really affected my sexualty a great deal.”

Why didnt Chris Rock follow up on that answer? Why was his Mother giving him Playboys at an early age? Did she think Prince was showing too much of a feminine side so she wanted to introduce him to porn to "man him up"?

Well, that certainly backfired spectacularly if that was her goal!

Okay, maybe not spectacularly, but it certainly didn't turn out in the way she might have been imagining...

Home slice wasn't buying it.

I think the goal was more "you need an instruction manual" if anything. Notice Prince doesn't say anything about his dad. Of course either of his parents (or step parents) saying "don't do it" would just fall on deaf ears since they both got around.

ACharmed1 said:

Being currently almost in my forties I was spared the shock value of a small afro-italian man getting his kit off for shock value to promote his self-made space-funk. Prince offered a unique opportunity for himself and all that sailed with him and in a way lives on with the current Conservative government's choice of Boris Johnson as Head of the Foreign Office.

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Fluffy fluffy woof woof nibble.

PurpleBabied said:

Blakbear said:

Well, that certainly backfired spectacularly if that was her goal!

Okay, maybe not spectacularly, but it certainly didn't turn out in the way she might have been imagining...

Home slice wasn't buying it.

I think the goal was more "you need an instruction manual" if anything. Notice Prince doesn't say anything about his dad. Of course either of his parents (or step parents) saying "don't do it" would just fall on deaf ears since they both got around.

She should've just left the porn mags under the mattress for kids to find like everybody else.

morningsong said:

CalhounSq said:

I looooove that story!

As for the heels, I think women were fine with them, but that ain't why he wore them. He could say that shit in a million interviews but we all know he learned how to work them shits to get some height I am not mad at him either
[Edited 7/16/16 1:31am]

You weren't fooled either. Can't blame him though. The ladies did love it though.

WhisperingDandelions said:

morningsong said:

ACharmed1 said:

I would gladly give it 2 him. Wait what's the question?

Got lost there didn't ya?

U bet Ur sweet bippy I did.

AlgeriaTouchshreek said:

LBrent said:

AlgeriaTouchshreek said:

Being currently almost in my forties I was spared the shock value of a small afro-italian man getting his kit off for shock value to promote his self-made space-funk. Prince offered a unique opportunity for himself and all that sailed with him and in a way lives on with the current Conservative government's choice of Boris Johnson as Head of the Foreign Office.

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Fluffy fluffy woof woof nibble.

Um. Prince is Black, darling, and he self-identified as such. Both of his biological, in real life, non-movie parents are Black. To be fair, they're light and, being from Louisiana, more than likely Creole, but due to old slavery laws still in effect in America, "one drop of Black blood makes you Black", sooo... Just sayin

Holy moly I missed that! I can't believe there are still ppl out there that think that he's half White or Italian. Geesh. He was Black and proud 2 be. Learn 2 accept it, and move on. The End.

He used sex to sell, and in an industry that normally usues women to sell sex, he broke all kinds of barriers. Loved it then, still do.

That picture made me flood my basement...what was the topic? Oh yeah. I totally think that he knew what he was doing when he wrote all of those raunchy songs. Prince was the first artist that has made me blush while listening to his raunchier stuff which as of lately I have gravitated towards to the most. Sex sells and he took it to the bank. Now back to important matters *stares at picture for 10 more minutes*

anangellooksdown said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

I think back to that anecdote Questlove gave in one of his writings a couple months ago. He cursed and Prince told him to pay the swear jar, and in the moment Questlove retorted "Man, but you taught me how to curse."

He said the reaction he saw in Prince's eyes seemed like that struck a very real cord he didn't exactly mean to, like maybe Prince had been haboring guilt for what he felt he exposed a generation to. I mean, too much overt sexuality and vulgarity... aren't these common critiques of lyrics in modern popular music? He probably felt that people had taken the doors he broke down and went too far, causing him to overcompensate in the other direction.

Prince was just very sensitive. That's all that was.

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I don't think *anything* he ever did (that we knew about) was at all bad. It was sexy, randy, and his sexual persuation was TOWARDS us.

BUT....someone/something (ahem) got to him and put the guilt on him. Yes, we all grow up and may regret some things...but really. Talking kinda dirty in records. It's not like he gave it up totally, anyway. In the last few years, he was *very* randy again. Just cut out certain words.

That speech he gave at the BET honorific about "don't do what I did" was totally unnecessary. NONE of the kids he was talking to had 10% of his talent.

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

ACharmed1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

During the Chris Rock interview Prince said the following:

“Once my mother remarried,” he explained to Rock, “it was during the time period in my life where she had to teach me about the birds and the bees. And I’ve never asked her about this, but I think there was some sort of plan to initiate me heavy and quick. I was given Playboy magazine, and there was erotic literature laying around. It was very easily picked up. It was pretty heavy at the time. I think it really affected my sexualty a great deal.”

Why didnt Chris Rock follow up on that answer? Why was his Mother giving him Playboys at an early age? Did she think Prince was showing too much of a feminine side so she wanted to introduce him to porn to "man him up"?

Uhh if U R implying that he was showing gay tendencies that'd be a big NO. There are tons of stories with Andre and early friends of how P was an insane skirt chaser even before high school.

The more logical explanation of this would be that sex wasn't openly talked about esp between parents and their children (same as today pretty much) so instead of talking about it that was her way of dealing with it. A kind of sweep it under the rug attitude so to speak. When U think of it that way it certainly would explain P's behaviour on relationships sexual, romantic, or otherwise eh?

prince nor andre said anything about chasing skirts in my readings, in fact andre said 'everyone was pretty much afraid of girls" which sounds normal for that age. Why his momma left out playboys, i don't have a clue, if you're as old as i am, you'll know that sex education wasn't taught in schools in the seventies, or if it was, barely. Some parents have a hard time with sexuality and an even harder time discussing it with their kids. if p's mom did this, she wouldn't be the only one to do wierd things, some fathers take their kid to see a prostitute or what have you. i know a family who openly talk about masturbation and sex with their kids, i think its pretty fucking wierd.