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Thread started 02/27/03 8:30am

Harlepolis

Why Is Prince SOOO Obsessed With The Neo-Soul Mess??

As much as I'm madly in love with "Muse 2 The Pharaoh" I'm wondering why didn't he recorded something different than whats out there like he used to?? I like the song even tho I feel bad about it becoz I feel like I'm hearing Jill Scott/Musiq instead of the "Prince" who influenced their music and who always come up with something raw and twisted. I'm thankful that the liner notes from the Vodoo's LP woke him up and let him get back at using the fender rhodes BUT not 2 the point where he's walking their route.

"Once again I don't follow trends,,they just follow me"-somehow I doubt that my brutha.
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Reply #1 posted 02/27/03 8:34am

rdhull

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He simply got shook and had to show how its done. He did. Now he will probably do it his own way again without revisiting his own sound purposely imo.
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Reply #2 posted 02/27/03 9:14am

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"NeoSoul" bores me to tears. The sounds and embelishments marvin gaye and others made with their voice was unique to them, and raw. The 18-25 year olds these days trying to mimic this sound are a pathetic imitation of the originals. They need to quit trying to capitalize off the past and come up with something substantial of their own.
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Reply #3 posted 02/27/03 9:18am

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Tom said:

"NeoSoul" bores me to tears. The sounds and embelishments marvin gaye and others made with their voice was unique to them, and raw. The 18-25 year olds these days trying to mimic this sound are a pathetic imitation of the originals. They need to quit trying to capitalize off the past and come up with something substantial of their own.

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Reply #4 posted 02/27/03 9:19am

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People seemed damned if they do damned if they dont. Folks use real instruments and its "neo-soul". Folks actually sing and it's Neo Soul etc. Folks are influenced and its Neo Soul. And then Neo Soul gets slammed. What do people want? Programming once again? Actually playing piano is now Neo Soul. nuts
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Reply #5 posted 02/27/03 9:19am

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NEO-SOUL Mess?? WTF??? try Futuresoul or Worldsoul,how about just SOUL
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Reply #6 posted 02/27/03 9:33am

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groovement said:

NEO-SOUL Mess?? WTF??? try Futuresoul or Worldsoul,how about just SOUL

Thank you..soul actually is being played and folks are so used to programming etc they dont know what to think about the music being played. I mean wtf do people want?
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Reply #7 posted 02/27/03 9:38am

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rdhull said:

People seemed damned if they do damned if they dont. Folks use real instruments and its "neo-soul". Folks actually sing and it's Neo Soul etc. Folks are influenced and its Neo Soul. And then Neo Soul gets slammed. What do people want? Programming once again? Actually playing piano is now Neo Soul. nuts

no, fartin 2 the tune of "(insert re-done soul classic here)" is now the new neo-soul.

on the one...fart


fartfart on the two...
[This message was edited Thu Feb 27 9:42:17 PST 2003 by Handclapsfingasnapz]
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Reply #8 posted 02/27/03 9:43am

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rdhull said:

People seemed damned if they do damned if they dont. Folks use real instruments and its "neo-soul". Folks actually sing and it's Neo Soul etc. Folks are influenced and its Neo Soul. And then Neo Soul gets slammed. What do people want? Programming once again? Actually playing piano is now Neo Soul. nuts


PEOPLE WANT NEW JACK SWING

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #9 posted 02/27/03 9:43am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

rdhull said:

People seemed damned if they do damned if they dont. Folks use real instruments and its "neo-soul". Folks actually sing and it's Neo Soul etc. Folks are influenced and its Neo Soul. And then Neo Soul gets slammed. What do people want? Programming once again? Actually playing piano is now Neo Soul. nuts

no, fartin 2 the tune of "for once in my life" is now the new neo-soul.

on the one...fart


I thought it was to the tune of Car Wash?
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Reply #10 posted 02/27/03 9:44am

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POOK said:

rdhull said:

People seemed damned if they do damned if they dont. Folks use real instruments and its "neo-soul". Folks actually sing and it's Neo Soul etc. Folks are influenced and its Neo Soul. And then Neo Soul gets slammed. What do people want? Programming once again? Actually playing piano is now Neo Soul. nuts


PEOPLE WANT NEW JACK SWING



Se there?! Now that's what Im talkin about. Cant go wrong with the NJS lol
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Reply #11 posted 02/27/03 9:45am

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JAM...oh jammm..teddy jam fo meee
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Reply #12 posted 02/27/03 9:49am

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rdhull said:

groovement said:

NEO-SOUL Mess?? WTF??? try Futuresoul or Worldsoul,how about just SOUL

Thank you..soul actually is being played and folks are so used to programming etc they dont know what to think about the music being played. I mean wtf do people want?


REALLY... Neo-Soul is cool w/ me nod
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Reply #13 posted 02/27/03 9:49am

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Time to get shot again, but everytime IN MY OPINION Prince tries the latest fashion, he shoots himself in the foot(I rather stick needles in my eyes than to ever hear him rap again). The term Neo-Soul is complete bullshit. They really ought to change the term to recycled soul. New artists are trying their damndest to sound like old artists. It is all just soul music. Ain't shit new about it. I would hope P would leave that nonsense to his younger counterparts.
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Reply #14 posted 02/27/03 9:51am

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rdhull said:

JAM...oh jammm..teddy jam fo meee

dum-dum-dittaaayyy...

nod
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Reply #15 posted 02/27/03 9:51am

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Time to get shot again, but everytime IN MY OPINION Prince tries the latest fashion, he shoots himself in the foot(I rather stick needles in my eyes than to ever hear him rap again). The term Neo-Soul is complete bullshit. They really ought to change the term to recycled soul. New artists are trying their damndest to sound like old artists. It is all just soul music. Ain't shit new about it. I would hope P would leave that nonsense to his younger counterparts.

reverend!!! worship
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Reply #16 posted 02/27/03 9:53am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

rdhull said:

JAM...oh jammm..teddy jam fo meee

dum-dum-dittaaayyy...

nod

lol
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Reply #17 posted 02/27/03 9:54am

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"Latest Fashion" "Recycled" "Nonsense" You folks need to listen to somthing other than P
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Reply #18 posted 02/27/03 9:55am

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rdhull said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

rdhull said:

JAM...oh jammm..teddy jam fo meee

dum-dum-dittaaayyy...

nod

lol

how could u forget the "dum-dum-ditt-ay", man? lol
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Reply #19 posted 02/27/03 9:56am

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stymie said:

Time to get shot again, but everytime IN MY OPINION Prince tries the latest fashion, he shoots himself in the foot(I rather stick needles in my eyes than to ever hear him rap again). The term Neo-Soul is complete bullshit. They really ought to change the term to recycled soul. New artists are trying their damndest to sound like old artists. It is all just soul music. Ain't shit new about it. I would hope P would leave that nonsense to his younger counterparts.

Then how you gonna even attempt to like Prince..he is the uiltimate neo soul artist then because his whole shit was a throwback to everyone before him..punk with DM, Kraftwerk with some 1999, Rockabilly with shit on Controversy and 1999, hendrix with Purple rain etc etc , Joni Mitchell, soul of Al Green in his slow songs, look of Little Richard and Hendrix etc etc, Bowie adrogyny. His whole movement may have not been Neo-"Soul" but "Neo-Everything but the Kitchen sink".


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Reply #20 posted 02/27/03 9:56am

NuPwrSoul

I don't get it.

Much of the "neo soul" is homage to Prince's unique style. Before Dangelo sat down at a Rhodes, we had the Ballad of Dorothy Parker. So if P goes back to the Rhodes to do HIMSELF, he's now mimicking neosoulers? WTF. I mean WTF! I mean WHATDAFUCK???

If there ever was a "trend" for P to participate in seamlessly, it would be neosoul, since he helped to create it gottdamnit.

This just pisses me off to no end.
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #21 posted 02/27/03 9:56am

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groovement said:

"Latest Fashion" "Recycled" "Nonsense" You folks need to listen to somthing other than P

we speak the truth...and if all we listened 2 wuz p we wouldn't have the slightest clue what neo-soul is...dont'cha think?


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Reply #22 posted 02/27/03 9:59am

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NuPwrSoul said:

I don't get it.

Much of the "neo soul" is homage to Prince's unique style. Before Dangelo sat down at a Rhodes, we had the Ballad of Dorothy Parker. So if P goes back to the Rhodes to do HIMSELF, he's now mimicking neosoulers? WTF. I mean WTF! I mean WHATDAFUCK???

If there ever was a "trend" for P to participate in seamlessly, it would be neosoul, since he helped to create it gottdamnit.

This just pisses me off to no end.


ROFL, y'all done pissed off NPS!! Watch yo asses, now lol biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 02/27/03 10:00am

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rdhull said:

stymie said:

Time to get shot again, but everytime IN MY OPINION Prince tries the latest fashion, he shoots himself in the foot(I rather stick needles in my eyes than to ever hear him rap again). The term Neo-Soul is complete bullshit. They really ought to change the term to recycled soul. New artists are trying their damndest to sound like old artists. It is all just soul music. Ain't shit new about it. I would hope P would leave that nonsense to his younger counterparts.

Then how you gonna even attempt to like Prince..he is the uiltimate neo soul artist then because his whole shit was a throwback to everyone before him..punk with DM, Kraftwerk with some 1999, Rockabilly with shit on Controversy and 1999, hendrix with Purple rain etc etc , Joni Mitchell, soul of Al Green in his slow songs, look of Little Richard and Hendrix etc etc, Bowie adrogyny. His whole movement may have not been Neo-"Soul" but "Neo-Everything but the Kitchen sink".


Yea, what he said!!
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Reply #24 posted 02/27/03 10:00am

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CalhounSq said:

NuPwrSoul said:

I don't get it.

Much of the "neo soul" is homage to Prince's unique style. Before Dangelo sat down at a Rhodes, we had the Ballad of Dorothy Parker. So if P goes back to the Rhodes to do HIMSELF, he's now mimicking neosoulers? WTF. I mean WTF! I mean WHATDAFUCK???

If there ever was a "trend" for P to participate in seamlessly, it would be neosoul, since he helped to create it gottdamnit.

This just pisses me off to no end.


ROFL, y'all done pissed off NPS!! Watch yo asses, now lol biggrin

seein spooky poppin his head up... eek
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Reply #25 posted 02/27/03 10:03am

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NO I really dont think you have a clue,"If u dont play shit,dont say shit"
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Reply #26 posted 02/27/03 10:05am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

CalhounSq said:

NuPwrSoul said:

I don't get it.

Much of the "neo soul" is homage to Prince's unique style. Before Dangelo sat down at a Rhodes, we had the Ballad of Dorothy Parker. So if P goes back to the Rhodes to do HIMSELF, he's now mimicking neosoulers? WTF. I mean WTF! I mean WHATDAFUCK???

If there ever was a "trend" for P to participate in seamlessly, it would be neosoul, since he helped to create it gottdamnit.

This just pisses me off to no end.


ROFL, y'all done pissed off NPS!! Watch yo asses, now lol biggrin

seein spooky poppin his head up... eek


lol

I'm sayin tho. Apologies to anyone that I may have offended. But I mean really. What do people want when they call for "Prince's unique sound"? That 1982-1984 linn drum handclap, layerd synth horns business? You want him to make a Ready for the World Album greatest hits album?

"The Rainbow Children" was his best attempt to present his signature sound and artistic impulses for today's listening audience in YEARS.
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Reply #27 posted 02/27/03 10:07am

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I'm sayin tho. Apologies to anyone that I may have offended. But I mean really. What do people want when they call for "Prince's unique sound"? That 1982-1984 linn drum handclap, layerd synth horns business? You want him to make a Ready for the World Album greatest hits album?

ill mrrrppphhh...
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Reply #28 posted 02/27/03 10:11am

Harlepolis

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

stymie said:

Time to get shot again, but everytime IN MY OPINION Prince tries the latest fashion, he shoots himself in the foot(I rather stick needles in my eyes than to ever hear him rap again). The term Neo-Soul is complete bullshit. They really ought to change the term to recycled soul. New artists are trying their damndest to sound like old artists. It is all just soul music. Ain't shit new about it. I would hope P would leave that nonsense to his younger counterparts.

reverend!!! worship


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Like I said, I ain't got problem with them folks. I have a problem with the TERM itself. Altho I'm getting sick of everybody are starting to sound like each other.

If you don't mess with programming then at least bring something DIFFERENT. L-Boogie is no Neo-Soul but different, Erykah Badu is no Neo-Soul but DIFFERENT too.

Musiq, Bilal, Maxwell and the rest of them ain't all that.
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Reply #29 posted 02/27/03 10:20am

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Harlepolis said:

Like I said, I ain't got problem with them folks. I have a problem with the TERM itself. Altho I'm getting sick of everybody are starting to sound like each other.

It's just a marketing term. Whether the genre is new or not, the industry will slap a new marketing term on a movement to get your attention. I'm not offended by it like I am when people claim Kenny G. plays jazz. But I have noticed that most folks within the so-called "neo soul" movement don't stand out by seperating themselves from the rest artistically.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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