As someone who is 19 (Prince's first website debuted 16 months before I was born) and only got into Prince after his passing, I can attest to this being a very real phenomenon. Louder than God's revolver and twice as shiny | |
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Unsurprised :shrug: Thought it would have been cool to offer some of the retro merch | |
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Totally agree with you. I was shocked to find that most of my daughter's friends did not know Prince. At all. I was wondering how this is possible and yes, that's it. No videos online, nothing. The amazing footage that is out there now, especially live stuff, its mindblowing. | |
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Yeah, I guess Prince STILL pissing off his fans even from the great beyond is the only way it could be. I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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What's the point. The estate wouldn't make any money off it anyway. Ridiculous. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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1Sasha said:
I hope it comes back. I barely started going thru it. And I have to agree prince somewhat did himself, his fans, and any future fans a disservice due to his stance against sharing his music via social media. One of my co-workers is in her late 20's and told me she couldn't name even one Prince song It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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I'm just gonna come right out here and say it: this site not only reminded me of how much I hated those individual websites, but also reinforced my understanding of why Prince got bored and moved on.
Let's be honest: everyone here hated almost every one of those sites, and with good reason. I was thinking I would list some of the threads here, but when I went and looked, there were so damn many that this post would take multiple pages in this thread.
Setting aside the issue of whether the subscriber-based sites (e.g., lotusflow3r.com, npgmusicclub.com, etc.) delivered on what was promised for their hefty membership fees (no, they did not), the user interface on almost everyone one of these just BITES.
I had forgotten how much I hated all of them until I tried -- foolishly -- a few days ago to find the LotuwFlow3r lyric booklet on that site. WTF is that? A miniature TV, about 3% of my total browser area, with lilliputian, diagonal versions of old Prince videos? A fake boombox that plays the same damn clip of a song, over and over again, no matter what you do to the controls?
Why anyone would ever want to create a showcase of those miserable things is beyond me. It's really an embarrassment to Prince. Fact is, he was sharp enough to get out ahead of the curve when he did (hell, I didn't even have a CD-ROM drive on my PC when he released Interactive), but on this like many other things, he just picked the wrong people to execute. | |
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EnDoRpHn said: I'm just gonna come right out here and say it: this site not only reminded me of how much I hated those individual websites, but also reinforced my understanding of why Prince got bored and moved on.
Let's be honest: everyone here hated almost every one of those sites, and with good reason. I was thinking I would list some of the threads here, but when I went and looked, there were so damn many that this post would take multiple pages in this thread.
Setting aside the issue of whether the subscriber-based sites (e.g., lotusflow3r.com, npgmusicclub.com, etc.) delivered on what was promised for their hefty membership fees (no, they did not), the user interface on almost everyone one of these just BITES.
I had forgotten how much I hated all of them until I tried -- foolishly -- a few days ago to find the LotuwFlow3r lyric booklet on that site. WTF is that? A miniature TV, about 3% of my total browser area, with lilliputian, diagonal versions of old Prince videos? A fake boombox that plays the same damn clip of a song, over and over again, no matter what you do to the controls?
Why anyone would ever want to create a showcase of those miserable things is beyond me. It's really an embarrassment to Prince. Fact is, he was sharp enough to get out ahead of the curve when he did (hell, I didn't even have a CD-ROM drive on my PC when he released Interactive), but on this like many other things, he just picked the wrong people to execute. He executed people? Daaaaayum "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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GhostChick said:
That's not exactly true. Plenty of people over the age of 30 know music from earlier decades because they heard it on the radio (radio app), parents/family members played it around them and other people played the music, and watch music videos.
Cable and general TV was a BIG part of that because back in the 80's, 90's and early part of the 00's, you could see Music Videos of artists on stations. I remember when MTV and BET played mostly music videos and MUSIC related shows. But now, if I'm 15-21, I'm watching some reality show or Teen Wolf on MTV/VH-1. Generation X didn't have the Internet or "Social Media" and we knew of alot of music from the 70's, 60's and before that.
And a lot more Younger people knew of Prince more than you think. Remember, alot of Younger (under 25) played and brought Prince's newer music. At work yesterday, we somehow got on the subject of music and I told my 21 year old co-workers that I listened to Prince all day everyday and he replied "Oh, you like that classic music" I wanted to... | |
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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KingSausage said: EnDoRpHn said: I'm just gonna come right out here and say it: this site not only reminded me of how much I hated those individual websites, but also reinforced my understanding of why Prince got bored and moved on.
Let's be honest: everyone here hated almost every one of those sites, and with good reason. I was thinking I would list some of the threads here, but when I went and looked, there were so damn many that this post would take multiple pages in this thread.
Setting aside the issue of whether the subscriber-based sites (e.g., lotusflow3r.com, npgmusicclub.com, etc.) delivered on what was promised for their hefty membership fees (no, they did not), the user interface on almost everyone one of these just BITES.
I had forgotten how much I hated all of them until I tried -- foolishly -- a few days ago to find the LotuwFlow3r lyric booklet on that site. WTF is that? A miniature TV, about 3% of my total browser area, with lilliputian, diagonal versions of old Prince videos? A fake boombox that plays the same damn clip of a song, over and over again, no matter what you do to the controls?
Why anyone would ever want to create a showcase of those miserable things is beyond me. It's really an embarrassment to Prince. Fact is, he was sharp enough to get out ahead of the curve when he did (hell, I didn't even have a CD-ROM drive on my PC when he released Interactive), but on this like many other things, he just picked the wrong people to execute. He executed people? Daaaaayum Harhar. No, they murdered the idea of what a website is supposed to do. | |
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.
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pandaleka said:
As someone who is 19 (Prince's first website debuted 16 months before I was born) and only got into Prince after his passing, I can attest to this being a very real phenomenon. RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.
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PurpleSpirit319 said: Even in death, Prince still has total control over everything!! RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.
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bookwomen said:
I disagree too. Even though it brought some tears the first time I logged on it also brought back some wondreful memories. I loved being able to revisit. I miss it already. I also (respectfully) disagree. RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.
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Se7en said:
right RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.
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roxy831 said: There must be something deeper we are not understanding, because as far as I'm concerned, the Prince Museum would have been a PERFECT stepping-stone to releasing music, videos, etc. via this medium. Unless there is someone (maybe TIDAL) fighting against this, the online museum was perfect for whomever would be named the permanent heir(s) to Prince's estate... I loved Prince, but this was one area I specifically disagreed with him on. And if his Estate isn't careful, they are going to make the same mistake - they are missing how today's youth communicate. >>>>>This was a GREAT project. And there was potential $$$money$$$ to be made here. Money that The Estate needs to pay future taxes!!!<<<<< Prince: We love you, man. But this specific issue was/is a mistake! (all due respect to Prince and all purple peeps in The Purple ARMY). [Edited 7/17/16 1:36am] RIP Prince. We will NEVER forget you. Thank you so much.
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I'll admit that I'm a bit baffled that people in their 20s are attributing their unfamiliarity with Prince (the icon, not the music) on a lack of online presence. I mean the iTunes Music Store has only truly been relevant to the market for maybe about nine years---when the first iPhone was released. Prince was available on Spotify until he got his masters back two years ago. I was 16 when Musicology was released and I remember that project getting a LOT of press. Digital downloads and streaming just started surpassing CD sales last year. Are people referring to his more vintage material? (I'd say 1995 and prior.) If so, that's more understandable. Certain singles like 'Adore', 'I Wanna Be Your Lover', etc. never stopped playing on the radio. My mom didn't own any of Prince's albums and I JUST saw Purple Rain this year (I'm not a film person), but I've heard pop culture references about it since forever. I don't know, part of me thinks that not being privy to an icon because he wasn't on YouTube or other social media isn't reasonable to me. Music videos have been a vacant lot for years---so Prince's being unavailable until recent months shouldn't be a dealbreaker for notoriety. Twitter didn't gain momentum until 2009, YouTube gained momentum around 2006 or 2007. These platforms as marketing tools aren't really as old as people are making them out to me. Also, which individuals in the upper echelon of music over the age of 50 rely heavily on social media promotions anyway? Elton John, Bon Jovi, and U2 aren't on Instagram everyday to be known? Why did Prince need to be? Most legends maintain a level of 'reclusivity' to them. So, yes, I can understand not being privy to certain parts of his catalog---but not knowing of his existence at all? You would have to have been hiding under a box. The younger youth of today (I'm late 20s) seems to find obscure, mundane shit just fine. I know people are socialized differently, but I think the lack of knowledge for some people is more willful than just the result of restricted availability. I also think that Prince offset this restricted availability of his content by opening up his home to the general public and press with the numerous events that he hosted at Paisley Park...and he did so for YEARS. What other rockstar did or does that? | |
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I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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I hope this returns. It is fascinating. The stories, the background and the music and photos...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/prince-online-museum-brings-the-purple-ones-many-magical-websites-2-u-4-free_us_57852bd9e4b0ed2111d7ba88
For Prince, the internet was more than just a platform. The web mirrored so many of Prince’s ideologies and ways of being ― the constant change, the abolition of hierarchies and structures, the privileging of the weird, the imaginative and the unbound. “Like the internet, Prince changed his mind often and would continually be evolving his thinking,” said Jennings. “He wanted to keep experimenting and trying new paradigms, in a similar fashion as the internet’s constant shifting to the latest app model. Freedom of choice is all he ever wanted.”
Prince Didn’t Hate The Internet. And His 17 Different Websites Prove It.A web designer is creating a museum dedicated to the Purple One’s obsession with digital."Hold on to your souls y'all. We got a long way to go. Thank you! We love y'all!" | |
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agreed...hated them then and still do | |
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You all have the wool pulled over your eyes if you don't understand that Prince was blacklisted by the music industry. The reason that "kids" don't know his music is that the industry blackballed him from radio play after TMBGITW. | |
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I never got to look at the Prince Online Museum. What exactly was in there? Can anybody tell me?
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Several different official Prince websites dating back to the 1990s. Most of them were shortlived in their original format, largely because they sucked. [Edited 7/17/16 18:29pm] | |
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UGH. I'm not surprised by this at all. I was actually surprised that Sam was able to launch this and promote it so publicly, before and after the launch, and not raise the eyebrow of the estate. I figured this would happen and for that reason I'm SUPER pissed at myself for not taking the time to sit down and just plow through it all in one go. What I'm hoping is that when and if they reach an agreement that the museum returns as is,with no edits and no censorship. "Where you are now is in a place that does not require time." - Rest In Power, PRINCE | |
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Be ready for a migraine if and whenever those infernal things return. | |
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Gross mentality being touted:
"As to the age 15-21 bracket, if they're Not spoonfed for Free in the comfort of their low-rise briefs at their (co-dependent) Mom's house, then this-split-second-attention-span-Yay-Bernie-bracket is wholly unable to intelligently access (or pay a mere pittance) for something such as Prince."
Ya'll have raised a lazy, hawt mess if that's the case. (You have, ... we know.)
All those sorts of folks are Unworthy of access anyway.
Quality, not quantity.
The End.
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"hefty membership fee(s)?" Ok, lol.
"picked the wrong people to execute?" Yes he did, in virtually All things. But he did that purposefully, clearly.
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What was on this site? Was there anything legitimately infringing such as music? If it was just commentary, that is bogus, and an infringment of freedom of speech. I'd like to know more about this, and how it is legitimately in the interest of the estate. | |
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AlexHahn said: What was on this site? Was there anything legitimately infringing such as music? If it was just commentary, that is bogus, and an infringment of freedom of speech. I'd like to know more about this, and how it is legitimately in the interest of the estate. These were all official sites, commissioned by Prince at different points over the last 15-18 years. As such, everything there is his (I.e., now belongs to the estate). | |
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