i aint too optimistic....

look at other deceased artists.....takes years

Yes thinking could easily take another year or longer, especially with the estate still to be sorted out.

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I figure they need to get a career spanning best of out first, maybe a 1cd (or vinyl) release and a 4cd (or vinyl) release or something? I wonder will they renegotiate the streaming rights beyond Tidal?

I don't understand why the estate is not being allowed to do a quick release or two, just to pay off the estate taxes. I think just one or two, or even three, of the Piano & A Microphone shows (Paisley Park and Atlanta, or perhaps at the Sydney Opera House) and a remastered SOTT and/or Purple Rain (album and film) would be enough. They could even do a full theater release of the SOTT film during the Thanksgiving and Christmas holiday season. They need to strike while the iron is hot. Those taxes are due in January. Without such releases by the estate, they are likely to be faced with "fire sale" scenarios to pay off the taxes, which would be criminal. The estate can sort out who's inheriting what after the tax burden is removed. If Bremer and the probate court are not allowing this to happen--and if appointed estate managers L. Londell McMillan and Charles A. Koppelman are not pushing to generate funds right away--then we need to ask a lot of serious questions.

HITNRUN 2 was the first posthumous release of Prince. It sold during his very short chartrun 40.000 ex in the USA, and maybe 30.000 more outside the US.

Nobody cares about a new release, if there is no promotion surrounding it.

nonames said:

When do we reckon that we will get the first bit of new music and what will this be? My guess is that the last Atlanta show is likely to see the light soon, before the end of the year: he intended to release it, might have even finished it and it has the selling point of being the last show. I read somewhere that his estate was already in talks with WB to release new music and releasing this before Christmas would make sense, as well as contributing towards that big tax bill coming in the new year. Personally I'd prefer actual new music, what he was doing with Mononeon, but who knows whether we'll ever get to hear it. (And please mods, feel free to lock this thread if I should have posted in the Estate sticky, or there are similar threads, but there is so much action here recently that it is difficult to keep track, even by using search!)

I keep seeing this written but did he mention it more than once? There's no reason to expect that we'd have seen that release if Prince was still alive. He often said or hinted about stuff which we rarely got, especially when it came to releasing live material.

But having said that, there's probably a higher chance that it wll actually get released now that he's passed. And an even higher chance that we'll be spared studio overdubs!

RODSERLING said:

HITNRUN 2 was the first posthumous release of Prince. It sold during his very short chartrun 40.000 ex in the USA, and maybe 30.000 more outside the US.

Nobody cares about a new release, if there is no promotion surrounding it.

Well arguably that was a repressing since it was officially released before he died. You're not wrong about the promotion though, there's a good chance anything new released from now on in will get better promotion than anything he's done since the 90's.

TheEnglishGent said:

nonames said:

TheEnglishGent said:

I keep seeing this written but did he mention it more than once? There's no reason to expect that we'd have seen that release if Prince was still alive. He often said or hinted about stuff which we rarely got, especially when it came to releasing live material.

But having said that, there's probably a higher chance that it wll actually get released now that he's passed. And an even higher chance that we'll be spared studio overdubs!

Well, he died five days after he mentioned. We don't know what would have happened, but that's what he said.

Yes but we can't pretend like we really expected to see it released at the time he said it. It was anonther of those statements from Prince where we can only believe it when it is in our hands. I'm not saying I don't want it released, only that Prince mentioning something didn't mean it would come to pass.

took over 20 years for Queen to start releasing live shows from the 70's....a fuckin shame Prince fans who've been around since the early 80's wont see anything their lifetime...

nonames said:

When do we reckon that we will get the first bit of new music and what will this be? My guess is that the last Atlanta show is likely to see the light soon, before the end of the year: he intended to release it, might have even finished it and it has the selling point of being the last show. I read somewhere that his estate was already in talks with WB to release new music and releasing this before Christmas would make sense, as well as contributing towards that big tax bill coming in the new year. Personally I'd prefer actual new music, what he was doing with Mononeon, but who knows whether we'll ever get to hear it. (And please mods, feel free to lock this thread if I should have posted in the Estate sticky, or there are similar threads, but there is so much action here recently that it is difficult to keep track, even by using search!)

I would really like to see the Sign O' the Times video to be re-released on DVD. My understanding is that it is currently available only on video cassette in the US and that it was released on DVD or Blu-Ray in Canada or Japan.

206Michelle said:

nonames said:

When do we reckon that we will get the first bit of new music and what will this be? My guess is that the last Atlanta show is likely to see the light soon, before the end of the year: he intended to release it, might have even finished it and it has the selling point of being the last show. I read somewhere that his estate was already in talks with WB to release new music and releasing this before Christmas would make sense, as well as contributing towards that big tax bill coming in the new year. Personally I'd prefer actual new music, what he was doing with Mononeon, but who knows whether we'll ever get to hear it. (And please mods, feel free to lock this thread if I should have posted in the Estate sticky, or there are similar threads, but there is so much action here recently that it is difficult to keep track, even by using search!)

I would really like to see the Sign O' the Times video to be re-released on DVD. My understanding is that it is currently available only on video cassette in the US and that it was released on DVD or Blu-Ray in Canada or Japan.

I don't think Paisley Park will survive. I don't think we will be getting anything soon and if we do, how much money can the estate really make. All of us will buy it, but who else will. The general public is over Prince now and he didn't have the mass appeal someone like MJ had. I'm just not sure if he generate enough sales to keep Paisley afloat. The estate will need to sell posters, t-shirts, keychains, mugs, symbol necklaces, bobbleheads, etc. I don't see that happening. I don't even know if there is anyone in the family who cares enough or is sophisticated enough to do what needs to be done. Prince funded Paisley by doing shows. It's sad, but I don't think this is going to end well.

derrick31 said:

I don't think Paisley Park will survive. I don't think we will be getting anything soon and if we do, how much money can the estate really make. All of us will buy it, but who else will. The general public is over Prince now and he didn't have the mass appeal someone like MJ had. I'm just not sure if he generate enough sales to keep Paisley afloat. The estate will need to sell posters, t-shirts, keychains, mugs, symbol necklaces, bobbleheads, etc. I don't see that happening. I don't even know if there is anyone in the family who cares enough or is sophisticated enough to do what needs to be done. Prince funded Paisley by doing shows. It's sad, but I don't think this is going to end well.

Derrick31, I understand your points. I think that Paisley Park could be a viable museum akin to Graceland if there are multiple revenue streams. Paisley Park has the auditorium/performance space that could be used for performances and events such as weddings. Perhaps the recording studio could be rented to artists. I don't know much about recording studios in Minnesota, but my guess is that the PP recording studio is probably one of the best in Minnesota in terms of the equipment available considering that Prince made so much of his music there. Also, the estate or some local organization might consider having a Prince Week like Memphis has an Elvis Week. What also might really help is if Prince is buried on the PP grounds, just like Elvis is buried at Graceland. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I hope that PP can open as a museum.

derrick31 said:

I don't think Paisley Park will survive. I don't think we will be getting anything soon and if we do, how much money can the estate really make. All of us will buy it, but who else will. The general public is over Prince now and he didn't have the mass appeal someone like MJ had. I'm just not sure if he generate enough sales to keep Paisley afloat. The estate will need to sell posters, t-shirts, keychains, mugs, symbol necklaces, bobbleheads, etc. I don't see that happening. I don't even know if there is anyone in the family who cares enough or is sophisticated enough to do what needs to be done. Prince funded Paisley by doing shows. It's sad, but I don't think this is going to end well.

You can't be serious, derrick31? If the estate will go ahead and spring into action, the value of Prince's estate is stratospheric. If, however, they continue to drag their feet, Paisley Park (and P's masters) might indeed be lost. I really can't understand why the "monetization" that Londell McMiillan and Charles Koppelman were purportedly brought on to mastermind has not begun. The only musical promotion I see on Londell's twitter is for his daughter's debut EP, "Sweet Tea." Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just wish they would let us know what is going on with regard to starting the estate's engines, so to speak. It really makes you wonder...

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