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Thread started 07/07/16 8:42am

TrivialPursuit

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Guns n' Roses & Prince

This morning, a video of GnR came out, with original drummer Steven Adler on drums. Adler has not been in the band for a long time (1985-1990), because of drugs and alcohol, and the long term effects on the body (and eventually long term abuse). The video is from last night, July 6, in Cincinnati, OH. Adler sat in for "My Michelle" and "Out Ta Get Me".

As I'm watching the video, I see that bassist Duff McKagen has the prince symbol on his guitar. Not sure if it's been there since April 21, because I don't want GnR videos much at all, but it was last night.


Adler was fired from GnR in 1991 for heavy drug use. He pulled away from music, and "sat on the couch with the TV watching me, and got high every day". He later suffered partial paralysis on his left side due to a speed ball (a mix of cocaine and heroin). It also effected his speech. He was on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew twice, and then on Sober House.

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Reply #1 posted 07/07/16 8:45am

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Duff McKagen was a HUGE Prince fan. Wrote about it 5 years ago here: http://archive.seattlewee...uffmckagan

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Reply #2 posted 07/07/16 9:53am

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When I went to see Prince at his W2A show in Tacoma, Duff along with all the royality of Seattle Rock showed up at the concert. (Minus Heart and Pearl Jam).

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Reply #3 posted 07/07/16 10:00am

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TrivialPursuit said:

This morning, a video of GnR came out, with original drummer Steven Adler on drums. Adler has not been in the band for a long time (1985-1990), because of drugs and alcohol, and the long term effects on the body (and eventually long term abuse). The video is from last night, July 6, in Cincinnati, OH. Adler sat in for "My Michelle" and "Out Ta Get Me".

As I'm watching the video, I see that bassist Duff McKagen has the prince symbol on his guitar. Not sure if it's been there since April 21, because I don't want GnR videos much at all, but it was last night.


Adler was fired from GnR in 1991 for heavy drug use. He pulled away from music, and "sat on the couch with the TV watching me, and got high every day". He later suffered partial paralysis on his left side due to a speed ball (a mix of cocaine and heroin). It also effected his speech. He was on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew twice, and then on Sober House.

It's been there since 4/21. GnR also posted all over social media on Prince's birthday with a picture of Duff's bass with the quote that Prince would always be with them. It's amazing the far reaching influence that Prince has.

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Reply #4 posted 07/07/16 11:31am

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Duff talks about Prince many times in his book and he's been very public about it. He goes to my church and I've wanted to talk to him about it, but never actually went up and introduced myself to him. Maybe I will once my book comes out.

I'm reading his second book and it is a lot of fun as well.


Glad to see that Adler got to play with his old mates.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
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Reply #5 posted 07/07/16 11:56am

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Very cool. I was a huge GNR fan back in the day. At Coschella Axl said they wouldn't perform a Prince song because they wouldn't be able to do it justice.
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Reply #6 posted 07/07/16 12:18pm

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I remember watching an old interview with axel And Kurt loder on MTV. Axel had just turned 30 And he told Loder that he was talking to Prince about it. Prince told Axel "yeah its tough turning 30" or something like that. Obviously, P and GnR were buds.
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Reply #7 posted 07/07/16 12:53pm

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Thank you so much for sharing. Outside of being a famous musician, his story sounds almost exactly like my life story and the story of many in the Org. Thanks, again.

Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince
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Reply #8 posted 07/07/16 1:28pm

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Duff covered Bambi for the B side to his single Believe In Me

She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo

If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me?
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Reply #9 posted 07/07/16 1:52pm

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Here, Duff explains how G~n~R came up with their sound:

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Reply #10 posted 07/07/16 2:11pm

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Love G & R, so talented and love Prince as well, of course, so this makes me so very happy...i knew the guys really had respect for his music, didn't know they actually hung with him and Axl spoke with him as well, thats so awesome cool

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''The beautiful ones they hurt you every tiiiiime....''

yes RIP BEAUTIFUL ONES: Prince & Denise 2016
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Reply #11 posted 07/07/16 2:37pm

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thumbs up!

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #12 posted 07/07/16 2:42pm

SPYZFAN1

Maybe Slash changed his ways over the years, but he said some mean and homophobic things about P back in 91. He had a bad encounter with P (and his band) backstage at the MTV muic awards.

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Reply #13 posted 07/07/16 3:34pm

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SPYZFAN1 said:

Maybe Slash changed his ways over the years, but he said some mean and homophobic things about P back in 91. He had a bad encounter with P (and his band) backstage at the MTV muic awards.


Axl has had more encounters in his life than he'll ever have good encounters. And being that they were in a haze of drugs & alcohol back then, I'm not surprised they were getting in fights, and scuffles, and bitch fests with people. It's more like Prince had a bad encounter with GnR.

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Reply #14 posted 07/07/16 4:57pm

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SPYZFAN1 said:

Maybe Slash changed his ways over the years, but he said some mean and homophobic things about P back in 91. He had a bad encounter with P (and his band) backstage at the MTV muic awards.


Slash, by his own admission, was an awful human being back then unless he was onstage. He has certainly become more coherent over the years. Duff is a legit Prince fanatic, going back to Controversy. He's also the closest thing to an adult in the band, having traded in substance abuse for being a partial manager of a hedge fund. I saw the reunion show here in Detroit a couple weeks back, as I had never seen Slash live. Phenomenal guitar player. Amazing tone and precision. Axl was Axl, he remains a great frontman. If you like heavy rock and roll, it's a show worth seeing.
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Reply #15 posted 07/07/16 5:46pm

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"If you like heavy rock and roll, it's a show worth seeing".........Yup, but no thanks. I saw GnR with Living Colour and The Stones back in 89.

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Reply #16 posted 07/07/16 5:48pm

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I love, love, love GNR. One of my fave bands. And yeah, Duff has been a Prince fan for a long time. I believe the Love Symbol on his bass was put there a few weeks after Prince passed. It had been noticed at least a month ago.


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Reply #17 posted 07/07/16 5:50pm

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Militant said:

I love, love, love GNR. One of my fave bands. And yeah, Duff has been a Prince fan for a long time. I believe the Love Symbol on his bass was put there a few weeks after Prince passed. It had been noticed at least a month ago.


they made a facebook post about it a while back... on the guns n roses facebook page with a picture:

https://www.facebook.com/gunsnroses/photos/a.355783028068.156550.10901008068/10154265271188069/?type=3&theater

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Reply #18 posted 07/17/16 10:42am

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GnR just played Toronto and I was just watching some of the videos my friend posted on facebook. The stage was lit up in purple throughout. cool

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Reply #19 posted 07/17/16 11:27am

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I love GnR and have been a huge fan since they began. Read Slash's, Steven's, and Duff's books. Actually even went to a Velvet Revolver show, and a show during one of Slash's solo tours. That being said GnR was never quite the same for me after they fired Steven. It was the beginning of the end. Izzy left then shortly after. Still trying to decide if I want to catch this reunion thing cuz I'm over Axl in a big way Lol Duff is a class act and has always given Prince his props. Slash is a different person today than he was at the height of their fame, and his corresponding substance abuse. So happy for Steven getting to sit in with the band on a couple songs! I've always had a soft spot for him smile
On a side note: Scott Weiland died last fall of a drug OD just a few miles from PP in his tour bus that was parked in a hotel lot while his new band's tour was going thru MN.
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It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #20 posted 07/17/16 12:31pm

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That's a cool thing to read about. Respect among peers.
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Reply #21 posted 07/17/16 1:48pm

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traceyp23 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

This morning, a video of GnR came out, with original drummer Steven Adler on drums. Adler has not been in the band for a long time (1985-1990), because of drugs and alcohol, and the long term effects on the body (and eventually long term abuse). The video is from last night, July 6, in Cincinnati, OH. Adler sat in for "My Michelle" and "Out Ta Get Me".

As I'm watching the video, I see that bassist Duff McKagen has the prince symbol on his guitar. Not sure if it's been there since April 21, because I don't want GnR videos much at all, but it was last night.


Adler was fired from GnR in 1991 for heavy drug use. He pulled away from music, and "sat on the couch with the TV watching me, and got high every day". He later suffered partial paralysis on his left side due to a speed ball (a mix of cocaine and heroin). It also effected his speech. He was on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew twice, and then on Sober House.

It's been there since 4/21. GnR also posted all over social media on Prince's birthday with a picture of Duff's bass with the quote that Prince would always be with them. It's amazing the far reaching influence that Prince has.


This is very cool! cool

It just shows yet again...the breadth of Musicians who understood the Genius of Prince

Surprised that even the ego-Axl has appreciation... I still think he is a dick .... but now he is a purple dick...

~Shakalaka!~..... ~Mayday!~
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Reply #22 posted 07/17/16 3:16pm

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Duff McKagen was a HUGE Prince fan. Wrote about it 5 years ago here: http://archive.seattlewee...uffmckagan

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Thanks for posting this link. What a beautiful article. I related to so much of what he said.

"That record was the soundtrack to my life and gave me the confidence to move to L.A. at 19, with nothing more than belief in myself. Prince's music can do that." 🙌🙌🙌 Amen to that!
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Reply #23 posted 07/17/16 5:57pm

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TrivialPursuit said:



SPYZFAN1 said:


Maybe Slash changed his ways over the years, but he said some mean and homophobic things about P back in 91. He had a bad encounter with P (and his band) backstage at the MTV muic awards.




Axl has had more encounters in his life than he'll ever have good encounters. And being that they were in a haze of drugs & alcohol back then, I'm not surprised they were getting in fights, and scuffles, and bitch fests with people. It's more like Prince had a bad encounter with GnR.


Lol, yeah.
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Reply #24 posted 07/17/16 8:47pm

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I read Duff's first book and he mentions Prince several times. I want to get his second book too. Very well written and he seems super intelligent. Axl was a smart businessman to fire Duff and Slash though for drug use. They were pretty hooked at the time. So it is cool they patched things up. Their new shows don't compare to their old stuff, but for nostalgia's sake, I guess it's pretty cool. I bet they will have the biggest grossing tour of the year.

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Reply #25 posted 07/18/16 4:00am

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3rdeyedude said:

I read Duff's first book and he mentions Prince several times. I want to get his second book too. Very well written and he seems super intelligent. Axl was a smart businessman to fire Duff and Slash though for drug use. They were pretty hooked at the time. So it is cool they patched things up. Their new shows don't compare to their old stuff, but for nostalgia's sake, I guess it's pretty cool. I bet they will have the biggest grossing tour of the year.


Beyonce is at $5.5 million per show to their $3 million. No bet, just saying, lol.
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Reply #26 posted 07/18/16 5:16am

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I love GnR and have been a huge fan since they began. Read Slash's, Steven's, and Duff's books. Actually even went to a Velvet Revolver show, and a show during one of Slash's solo tours. That being said GnR was never quite the same for me after they fired Steven. It was the beginning of the end. Izzy left then shortly after. Still trying to decide if I want to catch this reunion thing cuz I'm over Axl in a big way Lol Duff is a class act and has always given Prince his props. Slash is a different person today than he was at the height of their fame, and his corresponding substance abuse. So happy for Steven getting to sit in with the band on a couple songs! I've always had a soft spot for him smile
On a side note: Scott Weiland died last fall of a drug OD just a few miles from PP in his tour bus that was parked in a hotel lot while his new band's tour was going thru MN.
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No shit!! Thats a bit eerie
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Reply #27 posted 07/20/16 12:52am

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iZsaZsa said:

3rdeyedude said:

I read Duff's first book and he mentions Prince several times. I want to get his second book too. Very well written and he seems super intelligent. Axl was a smart businessman to fire Duff and Slash though for drug use. They were pretty hooked at the time. So it is cool they patched things up. Their new shows don't compare to their old stuff, but for nostalgia's sake, I guess it's pretty cool. I bet they will have the biggest grossing tour of the year.

Beyonce is at $5.5 million per show to their $3 million. No bet, just saying, lol.

Yet Beyawnce has more overhead (like Madonna) . However, G&R has to split it up amongst the band.

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Reply #28 posted 07/20/16 6:13am

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kewlschool said:



iZsaZsa said:


3rdeyedude said:

I read Duff's first book and he mentions Prince several times. I want to get his second book too. Very well written and he seems super intelligent. Axl was a smart businessman to fire Duff and Slash though for drug use. They were pretty hooked at the time. So it is cool they patched things up. Their new shows don't compare to their old stuff, but for nostalgia's sake, I guess it's pretty cool. I bet they will have the biggest grossing tour of the year.



Beyonce is at $5.5 million per show to their $3 million. No bet, just saying, lol.

Yet Beyawnce has more overhead (like Madonna) . However, G&R has to split it up amongst the band.


Yeah, true, I would rather be in Beyonce's Balmain boots. smile
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Reply #29 posted 07/20/16 7:26am

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kewlschool said:

iZsaZsa said:

3rdeyedude said: Beyonce is at $5.5 million per show to their $3 million. No bet, just saying, lol.

Yet Beyawnce has more overhead (like Madonna) . However, G&R has to split it up amongst the band.

Oh yeah, that's right. Not to change the topic but, I would rather hear Beyonce sing lead for G&R than Axl. I mean, yeah - he can still perform. But he often sounds like a sick cat to me. The qualities of his voice that made it so unique seem to have faded. The energy that the band once had too is all but gone. I would rather watch their old concerts on youtube. But they sure now how to milk the fans out of every penny. $450 for floor seats, and that is not even for front floor seats.

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