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Reply #60 posted 07/08/16 1:08am

jaawwnn

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jaawwnn said:

I would Die 4 U is from God's (or Jesus') perspective as well though...

I'm not saying there's a definitive answer but I see it as a possibility.

[Edited 7/7/16 5:43am]

god and jesus are 2 different entities...god is not dead or dying for anyone...

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Reply #61 posted 07/08/16 2:33am

BillieBalloon

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I swear I read in one of the many interviews I have read since his passing that he said that D&P is about "God talking to Prince", or words to that effect. But do you think I can find the interview now?



Since his passing I have also sort of come to think of it as a song to us, his fans, even though I doubt that was the intention.

[Edited 7/7/16 22:24pm]




I've never heard prince say this..LINK?
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Reply #62 posted 07/08/16 3:08am

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Some of you think so literally, it's odd that you're into his music at all confused
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Reply #63 posted 07/08/16 5:09am

Bunsterdk

BillieBalloon said:

captiveunicorn said:

I swear I read in one of the many interviews I have read since his passing that he said that D&P is about "God talking to Prince", or words to that effect. But do you think I can find the interview now?



Since his passing I have also sort of come to think of it as a song to us, his fans, even though I doubt that was the intention.

[Edited 7/7/16 22:24pm]




I've never heard prince say this..LINK?


I think it was the transcript of a chat here on the Org where one of the participants called himself Prince and may or may not have been him. He said something along the lines of "What if D & P was God singing to Prince". Someone pointed out that God would not run from Prince, and he said not to take everything so literally. Something to that effect. Even though it very likely wasn't him, I still took note of that and have had much more fun with his texts after that.

He was playing with us sometimes in his lyrics. Like in Satisfied apparently singing about sex and then clearly stating that he's not talking of anything physical. I saw this in a live performance the other day and he almost spelled that line out to the audience.

I think we are taking a lot of his lyrics way too literally much of the time.
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Reply #64 posted 07/08/16 5:41am

Bunsterdk

Actually, I used to study Shakespeare a lot many moons ago and I wouldn't be surprised if some of Prince's work will get the same kind of interest over the coming years.

Things are rarely just what they seem with a Shakespeare text. I suspect the same is true with Prince.
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Reply #65 posted 07/08/16 6:07am

BillieBalloon

Bunsterdk said:

BillieBalloon said:




I've never heard prince say this..LINK?


I think it was the transcript of a chat here on the Org where one of the participants called himself Prince and may or may not have been him. He said something along the lines of "What if D & P was God singing to Prince". Someone pointed out that God would not run from Prince, and he said not to take everything so literally. Something to that effect. Even though it very likely wasn't him, I still took note of that and have had much more fun with his texts after that.

He was playing with us sometimes in his lyrics. Like in Satisfied apparently singing about sex and then clearly stating that he's not talking of anything physical. I saw this in a live performance the other day and he almost spelled that line out to the audience.

I think we are taking a lot of his lyrics way too literally much of the time.



Thanks for the response.
So you heard that from a (more than likely) imposter on the org. The plot just thickens with this song doesn't it. Before it was Prince singing as God now it could be God singing to prince.

I need a cup of tea..lol.
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Reply #66 posted 07/08/16 6:12am

Bunsterdk

BillieBalloon said:

Bunsterdk said:



I think it was the transcript of a chat here on the Org where one of the participants called himself Prince and may or may not have been him. He said something along the lines of "What if D & P was God singing to Prince". Someone pointed out that God would not run from Prince, and he said not to take everything so literally. Something to that effect. Even though it very likely wasn't him, I still took note of that and have had much more fun with his texts after that.

He was playing with us sometimes in his lyrics. Like in Satisfied apparently singing about sex and then clearly stating that he's not talking of anything physical. I saw this in a live performance the other day and he almost spelled that line out to the audience.

I think we are taking a lot of his lyrics way too literally much of the time.



Thanks for the response.
So you heard that from a (more than likely) imposter on the org. The plot just thickens with this song doesn't it. Before it was Prince singing as God now it could be God singing to prince.

I need a cup of tea..lol.


I just provided the info here about where it was most likely seen as a "quote from Prince".

I haven't taken this poster's words to be coming from Prince. It just opened my eyes to a new way of seeing his music. Don't jump to conclusions, friend, you might hurt yourself. LOL

But a cup of tea sounds like a splendid idea. biggrin cool
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Reply #67 posted 07/08/16 7:16am

PurpleBabied

"This will be the day/That you will hear me say/That I will never run away" -- is a pretty strong statement, especially if it comes from someone with abandonment and fidelity issues.


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Reply #68 posted 07/08/16 7:59am

BillieBalloon

Bunsterdk said:

BillieBalloon said:




Thanks for the response.
So you heard that from a (more than likely) imposter on the org. The plot just thickens with this song doesn't it. Before it was Prince singing as God now it could be God singing to prince.

I need a cup of tea..lol.


I just provided the info here about where it was most likely seen as a "quote from Prince".

I haven't taken this poster's words to be coming from Prince. It just opened my eyes to a new way of seeing his music. Don't jump to conclusions, friend, you might hurt yourself. LOL

But a cup of tea sounds like a splendid idea. biggrin cool
[Edited 7/8/16 7:04am]


I'll make you one :wink:

Thanks for the info. I don't think there is a definitive answer as to why he said boy or girl. That's okay..it's all part of the enjoyment of trying to figure his lyrics out. It could be as simple as the rhyming theory and we're reading too much into it of course.
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Reply #69 posted 07/08/16 10:29am

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Bunsterdk said:

Actually, I used to study Shakespeare a lot many moons ago and I wouldn't be surprised if some of Prince's work will get the same kind of interest over the coming years. Things are rarely just what they seem with a Shakespeare text. I suspect the same is true with Prince.

I was just thinking that when someone (or how many here) said that Prince.org and all about it are "over."

Just like Shakespeare is over. And the Bible is over...etc. etc.

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Reply #70 posted 07/08/16 10:31am

Shockedelicus

I think he just thought it sounded better than whatever other lines he thought up for the chorus. Plus, it perks up the listener's ear.

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Reply #71 posted 07/08/16 10:44am

CalhounSq

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Bunsterdk said:

BillieBalloon said:




I've never heard prince say this..LINK?


I think it was the transcript of a chat here on the Org where one of the participants called himself Prince and may or may not have been him. He said something along the lines of "What if D & P was God singing to Prince". Someone pointed out that God would not run from Prince, and he said not to take everything so literally. Something to that effect. Even though it very likely wasn't him, I still took note of that and have had much more fun with his texts after that.

He was playing with us sometimes in his lyrics. Like in Satisfied apparently singing about sex and then clearly stating that he's not talking of anything physical. I saw this in a live performance the other day and he almost spelled that line out to the audience.

I think we are taking a lot of his lyrics way too literally much of the time.

lol I wondered if that was the origin of this lol
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Reply #72 posted 07/08/16 11:26am

Noodled24

It rhymes, fit his androgynous persona & made people ask "did he say boy or a girl?"... at which point the song creates it's own hype.

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Reply #73 posted 07/08/16 12:32pm

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Some of the laziest lyric analysis ...

"boy or girl" is not because it's from the perspective of God, or how would you explain "Which one of us is right?" I don't think D&P is that deep lyrically, "boy or girl" was likely put there because it fits and widens the possibility of identification, in addition to winking back to his gender bending days. The kind of love in D&P is not as carnal as usual, change a few things and it could be about a new born baby, a cherished daughter leaving home, etc.

"anyone, boy or girl" from Anestesia, now that's different. He asks if you ever wanted to "play" so badly you'd take anyone, boy or girl.

The man liked singing boy or girl and Girls and boys, that's for sure.

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Reply #74 posted 07/08/16 2:39pm

Bunsterdk

CalhounSq said:

Bunsterdk said:



I think it was the transcript of a chat here on the Org where one of the participants called himself Prince and may or may not have been him. He said something along the lines of "What if D & P was God singing to Prince". Someone pointed out that God would not run from Prince, and he said not to take everything so literally. Something to that effect. Even though it very likely wasn't him, I still took note of that and have had much more fun with his texts after that.

He was playing with us sometimes in his lyrics. Like in Satisfied apparently singing about sex and then clearly stating that he's not talking of anything physical. I saw this in a live performance the other day and he almost spelled that line out to the audience.

I think we are taking a lot of his lyrics way too literally much of the time.

lol I wondered if that was the origin of this lol


Yeah.. LOL cool lol lol lol
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Reply #75 posted 07/08/16 2:46pm

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There are many intertwined themes in this song, which could be behind the use of "boys and girls", other than the fact that he seemed to like the sound of those words as they appear in many songs.



Diamonds & Pearls = Materialism
Diamond & Pearl (dancers) = Lustful love

At the start of the song, in the video, when Prince sings "I am here for you, love is meant for two, tell me what you're gonna do" he joins his hands in prayer whilst looking up. He seems to show that he is doing this song for God.

"Which one of us is right, if we always fight" this might refers to the wars in the world. This is followed by "Love is the masterplan".


Prince's role in this song is that of a spiritual teacher addressing to a classroom of children, (boys and girls) (see the black & white scene at the end of the video) representing God's children / whoever is listening / his fans.

The lesson is about how lust & materialism won't bring happiness, only Godly love does.

At the end of the song, the teaching and childhood themes reoccur, with not only the spelling of the word Diamond:

D to the I to the A to the M
O to the N to the D to the pearls of love
D to the I to the A to the M (to the m)
O to the N to the D to the pearls of love

... but also if you look at the start letter of each of these above verses, it reads "DODO". In French, this is a word meaning "Sleep" but this word is only ever used when speaking to children. The most famous French lullaby starts with :"DODO l'enfant Do l'enfant dormira..." talking about sending the child to sleep.

Knowing Prince had an interest in the bible, I researched the theme of the pearls and children in the bible and found this:

Matthew 18:3New International Version (NIV)

3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 13:45,46
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.


The black and white scene suggests that perhaps he is asking the listeners to go back to the past within themselves, back to our inner child in order to find that kind of love. Which matches the accompanying lyrics : "And everything you'll look for you'll find (take a look inside)"

That's my interpretation.

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Reply #76 posted 07/08/16 2:50pm

Bunsterdk

CherryMoon57 said:

There are many intertwined themes in this song, which could be behind the use of "boys and girls", other than the fact that he seemed to like the sound of those words as they appear in many songs.





Diamonds & Pearls = Materialism
Diamond & Pearl (dancers) = Lustful love


At the start of the song, in the video, when Prince sings "I am here for you, love is meant for two, tell me what you're gonna do" he joins his hands in prayer whilst looking up. He seems to show that he is doing this song for God.

"Which one of us is right, if we always fight" this might refers to the wars in the world. This is followed by "Love is the masterplan".



Prince's role in this song is that of a spiritual teacher addressing to a classroom of children, (boys and girls) (see the black & white scene at the end of the video) representing God's children / whoever is listening / his fans.

The lesson is about how lust & materialism won't bring happiness, only Godly love does.

At the end of the song, the teaching and childhood themes reoccur, with not only the spelling of the word Diamond:

D to the I to the A to the M
O to the N to the D to the pearls of love
D to the I to the A to the M (to the m)
O to the N to the D to the pearls of love

... but also if you look at the start letter of each of these above verses, it reads "DODO". In French, this is a word meaning "Sleep" but this word is only ever used when speaking to children. The most famous French lullaby starts with :"DODO l'enfant Do l'enfant dormira..." talking about sending the child to sleep.

Knowing Prince had an interest in the bible, I researched the theme of the pearls and children in the bible and found this:



Matthew 18:3New International Version (NIV)


3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.




Matthew 13:45,46
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.


The black and white scene suggests that perhaps he is asking the listeners to go back to the past within themselves, back to our inner child in order to find that kind of love. Which matches the accompanying lyrics : "And everything you'll look for you'll find (take a look inside)"

That's my interpretation.



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[Edited 7/8/16 14:50pm]
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Reply #77 posted 07/08/16 10:09pm

morningsong

CherryMoon57 said:

There are many intertwined themes in this song, which could be behind the use of "boys and girls", other than the fact that he seemed to like the sound of those words as they appear in many songs.





Diamonds & Pearls = Materialism
Diamond & Pearl (dancers) = Lustful love


At the start of the song, in the video, when Prince sings "I am here for you, love is meant for two, tell me what you're gonna do" he joins his hands in prayer whilst looking up. He seems to show that he is doing this song for God.

"Which one of us is right, if we always fight" this might refers to the wars in the world. This is followed by "Love is the masterplan".



Prince's role in this song is that of a spiritual teacher addressing to a classroom of children, (boys and girls) (see the black & white scene at the end of the video) representing God's children / whoever is listening / his fans.

The lesson is about how lust & materialism won't bring happiness, only Godly love does.

At the end of the song, the teaching and childhood themes reoccur, with not only the spelling of the word Diamond:

D to the I to the A to the M
O to the N to the D to the pearls of love
D to the I to the A to the M (to the m)
O to the N to the D to the pearls of love

... but also if you look at the start letter of each of these above verses, it reads "DODO". In French, this is a word meaning "Sleep" but this word is only ever used when speaking to children. The most famous French lullaby starts with :"DODO l'enfant Do l'enfant dormira..." talking about sending the child to sleep.

Knowing Prince had an interest in the bible, I researched the theme of the pearls and children in the bible and found this:



Matthew 18:3New International Version (NIV)


3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.




Matthew 13:45,46
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.


The black and white scene suggests that perhaps he is asking the listeners to go back to the past within themselves, back to our inner child in order to find that kind of love. Which matches the accompanying lyrics : "And everything you'll look for you'll find (take a look inside)"

That's my interpretation.




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Reply #78 posted 07/08/16 10:19pm

captiveunicorn

Bunsterdk said:

BillieBalloon said:




I've never heard prince say this..LINK?


I think it was the transcript of a chat here on the Org where one of the participants called himself Prince and may or may not have been him. He said something along the lines of "What if D & P was God singing to Prince". Someone pointed out that God would not run from Prince, and he said not to take everything so literally. Something to that effect. Even though it very likely wasn't him, I still took note of that and have had much more fun with his texts after that.

He was playing with us sometimes in his lyrics. Like in Satisfied apparently singing about sex and then clearly stating that he's not talking of anything physical. I saw this in a live performance the other day and he almost spelled that line out to the audience.

I think we are taking a lot of his lyrics way too literally much of the time.


Thank you for clarifying, my poor old memory! Apologies for any confusion caused, was unintentional. I still do like that theory though even if it wasn't really Prince himself who suggested it, i do think it fits.
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