Thread started 07/01/16 7:33amSunnyGirl8 |
What is beautiful in life? .
Art symbolises the meaning of our existence. Emotion is a way to relay a universal message - to discover meaning for yourself.
Like Prince who achieved this through his masterful storytelling with music and before the advent of many of today’s modern studio techniques, Andrei Tarkovsky achieved the same through haunting, ethereal, groundbreaking films that were created prior to the advent of computers and modern film techniques.
Both were visionaries who created their own language, textures and atmosphere - touching on the themes of the metaphysical, spiritual, space and time and rain/water.
Both were committed to faith and really believed in love and romantic love between people and the transcendent potential of it.
Both died tragically early in their mid-50’s.
Andrei Tarkovsky’s films have been recently remastered - you may have heard of Solaris.
http://www.tarkovsky.co.uk/trailer/1
I have no idea whether Andrei Tarkovsky influenced any of Prince’s work but the parallels between the two are striking.
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Reply #1 posted 07/01/16 8:05am
bigtimefan |
I hadn't heard of him, but the trailer is so enticing.
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Which movie would you suggest I purchase? Eventually every cloud runs out of rain. |
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Reply #2 posted 07/01/16 9:08am
SunnyGirl8 |
bigtimefan said:
I hadn't heard of him, but the trailer is so enticing.
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Which movie would you suggest I purchase?
Hi BigTimeFan
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I guess it depends on your taste. If you click on this link it shows you his films with a brief synopsis and reviews. http://www.tarkovsky.co.uk/films
If you’re interested in Soviet Sci-fi - Solaris (1972) is probably his most famous movie. It was remade in 2002 with George Clooney but the original’s better - in my opinion. It’s based on the novel by Stanislaw Lem and won the Cannes Film Festival Grand Prix Special du Jury in 1972. It also has levitation scenes (like the trailer).
But many of his movies have won a lot of foreign film awards - Andrei Rublev, Solaris, Stalker, Nostalgia, The Sacrifice, Ivan’s Childhood.
As the films have just been remastered, they’re now being shown in cinemas (eg. in the UK) so you may be able to catch one at local cinema to you.
Ingmar Bergman famously said of Tarkovsky:
"Tarkovsky for me is the greatest (director), the one who invented a new language, true to the nature of film, as it captures life as a reflection, life as a dream.”
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Enjoy!
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Reply #3 posted 07/01/16 9:13am
terrig |
The look in my dogs eyes when I rub her belly
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Reply #4 posted 07/01/16 9:23am
SunnyGirl8 |
terrig said:
The look in my dogs eyes when I rub her belly
That's so sweet! |
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Reply #5 posted 07/01/16 9:30am
perfume |
Understanding that deep connection and friendship with the Creator is driven by simple gratitude for what we have. 'Thank You' goes a long way and understanding that is beautiful. |
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Reply #6 posted 07/01/16 10:52am
SunnyGirl8 |
perfume said:
Understanding that deep connection and friendship with the Creator is driven by simple gratitude for what we have. 'Thank You' goes a long way and understanding that is beautiful.
Agree |
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Reply #7 posted 07/01/16 11:03am
perfume |
Thanks for the info on Tarvosky. Glad I'm off work this summer so I can check out some of his films. |
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Reply #8 posted 07/01/16 11:17am
SunnyGirl8 |
perfume said:
Thanks for the info on Tarvosky. Glad I'm off work this summer so I can check out some of his films.
Hey no worries! I just stumbled on it when I saw they were showing his films at the cinema. When I looked into more I was surprised at the extent of the overlap between them - although the final output is obviously very different. |
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Reply #9 posted 07/01/16 11:19am
terrig |
SunnyGirl8 said:
terrig said:
The look in my dogs eyes when I rub her belly
That's so sweet!
I love the parallel you made with the filmmaker - I;m going to check it out...thanks for the beautiful thread!
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Reply #10 posted 07/01/16 11:29am
SunnyGirl8 |
terrig said:
SunnyGirl8 said:
That's so sweet!
I love the parallel you made with the filmmaker - I;m going to check it out...thanks for the beautiful thread!
No worries! Thanks! |
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Reply #11 posted 07/01/16 12:00pm
Aerogram |
I remember being blown away by Andrei Rublev. For those who don't know, it's one of those supremely evocative movies with incredible photography and music, you know watching it that a peculiar individual was at the helm. There's been many a wonderfully shot and scored movie, but here you truly have an individual vision.
Beyond the fact they were both so dedicated to their art and hell bent on realizing their vision, I don't think there's that much similarity between the two. I certainly can't see them hitting it off if they met. |
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Reply #12 posted 07/01/16 12:35pm
anangellooksdo wn |
perfume said: Understanding that deep connection and friendship with the Creator is driven by simple gratitude for what we have. 'Thank You' goes a long way and understanding that is beautiful. Ah, Perfume...what a sweet sentiment. This is true, hence the lyrical line that comes after the one in my signature. Prince had a message. He loved romantic love and sex and wasn't afraid to talk about it without getting embarrassed. But mostly his message was about love. An overall love for people. And for God, or Jehovah, who was his Higher Power. And I. That same sentiment, service. He done good. |
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Reply #13 posted 07/01/16 1:07pm
perfume |
anangellooksdown said:
perfume said:
Understanding that deep connection and friendship with the Creator is driven by simple gratitude for what we have. 'Thank You' goes a long way and understanding that is beautiful.
Ah, Perfume...what a sweet sentiment. This is true, hence the lyrical line that comes after the one in my signature. Prince had a message. He loved romantic love and sex and wasn't afraid to talk about it without getting embarrassed. But mostly his message was about love. An overall love for people. And for God, or Jehovah, who was his Higher Power. And I. That same sentiment, service. He done good.
Grateful minds think alike. :0) Our signatures are gleaned from the same source. 'Thank you' are magic words.
Spot on truth about Prince, which is why I think the world misses him so. I know that's why I do. You're right, he was the only artist who spoke in unfettered erospiritual language without shame. God is the source of all forms of love. Prince knew this, and was gifted with the ability to convey this Truth so beautifully through music. I suppose that's why although I'm more than sad that he's gone, I know who he's with. He's with LOVE, and I'm happy about that. He done REAL good. |
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Reply #14 posted 07/01/16 1:13pm
perfume |
SunnyGirl8 said:
perfume said:
Thanks for the info on Tarvosky. Glad I'm off work this summer so I can check out some of his films.
Hey no worries! I just stumbled on it when I saw they were showing his films at the cinema. When I looked into more I was surprised at the extent of the overlap between them - although the final output is obviously very different.
I'm thinking that I'd like to start with 'The Steamroller & The Violin'. The plot seems interesting. Thanks for helping to make me smarter. |
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Reply #15 posted 07/01/16 1:36pm
SunnyGirl8 |
perfume said:
SunnyGirl8 said:
Hey no worries! I just stumbled on it when I saw they were showing his films at the cinema. When I looked into more I was surprised at the extent of the overlap between them - although the final output is obviously very different.
I'm thinking that I'd like to start with 'The Steamroller & The Violin'. The plot seems interesting. Thanks for helping to make me smarter.
I haven't seen it either! Thanks for letting me know - it looks really interesting! The concept of having your creativity stifled by a metronome |
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Reply #16 posted 07/01/16 1:43pm
perfume |
SunnyGirl8 said:
perfume said:
I'm thinking that I'd like to start with 'The Steamroller & The Violin'. The plot seems interesting. Thanks for helping to make me smarter.
I haven't seen it either! Thanks for letting me know - it looks really interesting! The concept of having your creativity stifled by a metronome
We could almost stretch it, and say this was a metaphor for Prince and Warner Bros (the metronome boxing one in, restricting time, etc.), but I'm not that smart or that deep... yet... |
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Reply #17 posted 07/01/16 2:06pm
SunnyGirl8 |
perfume said:
SunnyGirl8 said:
I haven't seen it either! Thanks for letting me know - it looks really interesting! The concept of having your creativity stifled by a metronome
We could almost stretch it, and say this was a metaphor for Prince and Warner Bros (the metronome boxing one in, restricting time, etc.), but I'm not that smart or that deep... yet...
Wow that is deep! I hadn't thought of that! You could be onto something there! |
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Reply #18 posted 07/01/16 2:19pm
SunnyGirl8 |
Wow! I was just reading a bit more about this and The Vatican includes Tarkovsky's "The Sacrifice" as one of the 45 ‘great religious films’. |
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Reply #19 posted 07/01/16 3:49pm
perfume |
SunnyGirl8 said:
Wow! I was just reading a bit more about this and The Vatican includes Tarkovsky's "The Sacrifice" as one of the 45 ‘great religious films’.
That settles it, we must get Tarkovsky T-Shirts, and walk around with our noses in the air, like we're smarter than the average bear.
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Reply #20 posted 07/01/16 3:50pm
SunnyGirl8 |
perfume said:
SunnyGirl8 said:
Wow! I was just reading a bit more about this and The Vatican includes Tarkovsky's "The Sacrifice" as one of the 45 ‘great religious films’.
That settles it, we must get Tarkovsky T-Shirts, and walk around with our noses in the air, like we're smarter than the average bear.
Haha! That's funny! |
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Reply #21 posted 07/01/16 4:14pm
perfume |
SunnyGirl8 said:
perfume said:
That settles it, we must get Tarkovsky T-Shirts, and walk around with our noses in the air, like we're smarter than the average bear.
Haha! That's funny!
6 Tarkovsky films are free to watch online via Openculture.com where there's access to legitimately free cultural and educational media. I will send u the link via orgnote, I don't want anyone to come after me like |
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Reply #22 posted 07/01/16 6:49pm
nursev |
I think what is really beautiful is that alot of us are old enough to have lived during the time that both Prince and MJ were at their peaks and that is a great thing no matter what others say. |
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Reply #23 posted 07/01/16 7:04pm
steakfinger |
I don't know about beautiful, but I do know what's best in life. To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. At least according to Conan the Barbarian. |
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Reply #24 posted 07/01/16 7:08pm
KingSausage |
Tarkovsky is fantastic! So many great films. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry |
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Reply #25 posted 07/02/16 12:24pm
SunnyGirl8 |
KingSausage said:
Tarkovsky is fantastic! So many great films.
Yes Watching Tarkovsky this weekend. |
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Reply #26 posted 07/02/16 3:20pm
KingSausage |
steakfinger said: I don't know about beautiful, but I do know what's best in life. To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. At least according to Conan the Barbarian. I actually came on here to say that. I love that you said it first. I had a coworker once who always made Conan references, only like 2% of which were appropriate. It was awesome. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
-Eugene Tackleberry |
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Reply #27 posted 07/04/16 4:33am
SunnyGirl8 |
anangellooksdown said:
perfume said:
Understanding that deep connection and friendship with the Creator is driven by simple gratitude for what we have. 'Thank You' goes a long way and understanding that is beautiful.
Ah, Perfume...what a sweet sentiment. This is true, hence the lyrical line that comes after the one in my signature. Prince had a message. He loved romantic love and sex and wasn't afraid to talk about it without getting embarrassed. But mostly his message was about love. An overall love for people. And for God, or Jehovah, who was his Higher Power. And I. That same sentiment, service. He done good.
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You're right, he did real good.
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