Doozer said:

KingSausage said:

Doozer said:

Are you listening through headphones or over speakers? Do share your setup.

Right now I don't even have an ideal setup yet, but I can already hear a huge difference. I have a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC, a TC-750LC phono preamp, and a Polk Woodbourne speaker. My next step (probably not for another few months) will be getting an actual amp/speaker system. I have some decent headphones but no way to hook them up to my turntable yet. Sennheiser HD598 (?). And Harmon Karden CL PrecisionSomethingBlahBlah.

Hey serious question; I'm looking at Pro-Ject turntables; I want to add a turntable to my bedroom with a phono preamp for headphone listening, but don't want to go high-end given where it will be. I know yours is entry level, but what do you think of it so far quality-wise?

the joys of vinyl. you missed out on a great era. can you imagine buying the 1999 album and seeing a beautiful shiny purple album sleeve with a picture of the whole band. then pulling out the vinyl to see a huge Prince eye staring at you. I remember that Nov. 1982 day haha

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Damn the first time

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

the joys of vinyl. you missed out on a great era. can you imagine buying the 1999 album and seeing a beautiful shiny purple album sleeve with a picture of the whole band. then pulling out the vinyl to see a huge Prince eye staring at you. I remember that Nov. 1982 day haha

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I do too...loved it

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

the joys of vinyl. you missed out on a great era. can you imagine buying the 1999 album and seeing a beautiful shiny purple album sleeve with a picture of the whole band. then pulling out the vinyl to see a huge Prince eye staring at you. I remember that Nov. 1982 day haha

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Fucking eh

I just finally sat and listened to the Dirty Mind remaster on vinyl the other day. It's just so different, yet familiar. I can't wait to get Controversy and 1999.

Congrats (finally!) on the new turntable.

BlackandRising said:

TrivialPursuit said:

electrodyne said:

any of the 12 Inch Singles from those eras. Your mind will be blown! Enjoy!

I second this suggestion. Don't forget to collect as many of the original 12" singles as you can. You need to get all of them up through I Wish U Heaven for sure!!

Nice one Sausage, glad you took the plunge to vinyl.

nursev said:

Damn the first time

I'll be honest, I've never listened to P on vinyl either

KingSausage said:

I went to a record store for the first time. Like, a RECORD store. A WRECKA STOW. Not flimsy CDs or iTunes. Records. My fucking head just about exploded. I could have blown several paychecks there. I promised myself I would only buy one album. I bought Voodoo. I can't fucking wait to listen to it. I haven't been this excited about anything in YEARS (other than my daughter being born, of course). I have so many Prince records to listen to. And more to come if the reissue program isn't derailed for some reason. Plus, maybe I'll start picking up some singles and original pressings. Someday it might be fun to look back at the alternate future in which I saved up for my daughter's college fund.

D'angelo sounds really good on vinyl. But his albums sounds pretty good on cd also. That's because he has been very picky when it comes to recording, mixing, mastering... the whole process. Voodoo is really something, but I think his last album sounds very good also. Although I love his first album too, the mix sounds a bit dated. Kinda the same problem as with some of the 90s releases Prince did. Amazing songs, but with lack of "sound". I'd recommend buying Parliament and Sly & The Family Stone as well. Albums like There's a Riot Going On and Mothership Connection sound very good. Miles Davis on vinyl.. THATS SOMETHING!

jaawwnn said:

Drives me mad that D'Angelo recorded/mixed the entire of Black Messiah in analogue and then when they made the vinyl they pressed it from a digital file. Defeats the whole purpose. I mean, it still sounds great but I KNOW it would sound better if it had been analogue all the way.

I get what you're saying. But if it's done with care, it's hardly noticable. Atleast for us humans. I'd argue it's impossible to hear, if done correctly. The only problem with digital music is the mastering and sometimes use of bad DACs and software.

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jaawwnn said:

Replica said:

KingSausage said:

Replica said:

I get what you're saying. But if it's done with care, it's hardly noticable. Atleast for us humans. I'd argue it's impossible to hear, if done correctly. The only problem with digital music is the mastering and sometimes use of bad DACs and software.

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I listened to the first two songs on Black Messiah on both vinyl and CD the other night. The vinyl sounded warmer and with more desperation of instruments. And the percussion sounded more organic to me.

It's quite possible you're right. Didn't notice the huge difference though. However, vinyl has kind of it's own warmth because of it's limitations as well as it's pros. It can't produce the highest frequencies, and neither the lowest frequencies. Because some minor analog distortion, it's rolling off the top frequencies, it sounds automatically "rounder" and "warmer". Not as harsh. Sometimes also the lack of the deepest frequencies can make it sound less muddier, atleast if the cd mastering had too much lo end. Too much low end, makes the mix sound messy. And it will be masking the qualities you actually want.

Top 3 Essential U.S. 12" Singles (in my not-so-humble opinion):

Let's Go Crazy / Erotic City

Sign "O" The Times / La, La, La, He, He, Hee

I Wish U Heaven / Scarlet Pussy

Special mention goes to America / Girl as the only one in which the entire content was exclusively released as vinyl only. For all other U.S. 12" singles, some or all of the content is available on CD.

If you can find them, get any of the Madhouse on vinyl. The albums may be expensive but look for the 3 12" singles, might be cheaper and totally worth it. The first 3 Time albums & The Family sound great on vinyl as well...

Replica said:

jaawwnn said:

Drives me mad that D'Angelo recorded/mixed the entire of Black Messiah in analogue and then when they made the vinyl they pressed it from a digital file. Defeats the whole purpose. I mean, it still sounds great but I KNOW it would sound better if it had been analogue all the way.

I get what you're saying. But if it's done with care, it's hardly noticable. Atleast for us humans. I'd argue it's impossible to hear, if done correctly. The only problem with digital music is the mastering and sometimes use of bad DACs and software.

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In most cases I wouldn't notice it but I always do with older vinyl, i.e. stuff before digital recordings and instruments, the cut off point being usually around the early 80's. This would be why i'm usually a little dubious on how much better Prince stuff sounds on vinyl, although I should probably upgrade to a decent system.

But with D'Angelo so much care was put into not having digital instruments/recording instruments etc. I feel he should have looked around for someone who was willing to do an analogue vinyl print you know?