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Reply #30 posted 06/27/16 8:25am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Why does anyone need to cover it at all?

You have heard of tributes, right TrivialPursuit? I'm just wondering because, although it is one of P's most popular and beautiful ballads, it has been noticeably absent from most of the recent Prince tributes, including the BET Awards tribute tonight. Alicia Keys attempted to sing it during BET's 2010 tribute to Prince, but even she could not hit the high notes.


No, I get that. I just think even great Prince fans that are singers would know that "Adore" is one of those songs that should just never be touched. Frankly, I'm tried of hearing people cover something as iconic as "Purple Rain", too (especially Stevie Wonder).

I was surprised that Bilal hit the notes he did on last night's BET Awards. I know of him, but I've tuned into much of his music. Just - because I never did. But I was pleased with his performance of "The Beautiful Ones".

Ultimately, no one is ever really going to hit the notes that a young 20-something genius did in a studio 30 years ago. I just don't think it should be on the table. Ever.

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Reply #31 posted 06/27/16 8:26am

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Wolfie87 said:

These guys are quite good. This was for a long time the only version of Adore on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iah30Dvs11A

Yes!!! Thank you for sharing. That young man has some serious chops, and he seems to be quite the character. He even threw in a split, for good measure, at the end. I wonder if Prince ever saw them on YouTube.

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Reply #32 posted 06/27/16 8:30am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Genesia said:


Ummmm...that ain't a Whitney Houston song. It was written by Dolly Parton - and performed by a lot of people before Whitney ever sprained a vocal chord on it.

Duh!! Dolly Parton wrote it, yes, and she continues to make untold millions from it, but Whitney's is the definitive version. That is undeniable. And even though it is a notoriously intimidating song to sing, every year singers around the world perform it at talent shows and on live competitions like "The Voice."

No, it's not intimidating. If it were intimidating, people would take singing it more seriously and back off. It just sounds like a great opportunity for sopranos with lungs and range to show boat and then so many people spectacularly misjudge their vocal abilities. Notice how the same people never try to cover early Mariah Carey?

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Reply #33 posted 06/27/16 8:33am

FlyOnTheWall

TrivialPursuit said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You have heard of tributes, right TrivialPursuit? I'm just wondering because, although it is one of P's most popular and beautiful ballads, it has been noticeably absent from most of the recent Prince tributes, including the BET Awards tribute tonight. Alicia Keys attempted to sing it during BET's 2010 tribute to Prince, but even she could not hit the high notes.


No, I get that. I just think even great Prince fans that are singers would know that "Adore" is one of those songs that should just never be touched. Frankly, I'm tried of hearing people cover something as iconic as "Purple Rain", too (especially Stevie Wonder).

I was surprised that Bilal hit the notes he did on last night's BET Awards. I know of him, but I've tuned into much of his music. Just - because I never did. But I was pleased with his performance of "The Beautiful Ones".

Ultimately, no one is ever really going to hit the notes that a young 20-something genius did in a studio 30 years ago. I just don't think it should be on the table. Ever.

I feel you. I just disagree. And I don't think Prince would want his songs treated as museum artifacts, never to be "touched." Now, recording it is another matter; although Silk did a really good recording many years ago. Prince must have had to agree to that, right? With regard to Bilal, he has not recorded much in recent years, but he has one of the best falsettos in the business. He could have probably done "Adore," as well. But I think D'Angelo probably committed to singing Adore and, for whatever reason, did not show up. To be sure, D'Angelo could have nailed it.

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Reply #34 posted 06/27/16 8:33am

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CalhounSq said:

NOPE, that's why Maxwell backed outta that shit. They need to leave Adore ALONE exclaim


While I think Maxwell would probably handle that shit right (he did a great cover of "The Lady In My Life" from MJ a few years back), he is smart to step away from something people hold in such high regard. It's held there for good reason. He did good on "Nothing Compares 2 U", but I'd also be happy with him doing something like "Pink Cashmere", "Scandalous", "Do Me, Baby" or "When 2 R In Love". Frankly, if you think about it, the slow steady nature of something like "Condition Of The Heart" is right up his alley.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #35 posted 06/27/16 8:38am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

I think D'Angelo probably committed to singing Adore and, for whatever reason, did not show up. To be sure, D'Angelo could have nailed it.


Do we know that, or is that conjecture? D'Angelo did his tribute. I'm not sure why he'd agree to do it again.

Out of all of Prince's song, I'm not sure why you're stuck on "Adore" being thrown into the ring so easily. Even museum artifacts are enjoyed, but that doesn't mean everyone gets to put their hands on them. They're preserved as is for a reason, while other things are open to whoever's hand.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #36 posted 06/27/16 8:51am

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TrivialPursuit said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I think D'Angelo probably committed to singing Adore and, for whatever reason, did not show up. To be sure, D'Angelo could have nailed it.


Do we know that, or is that conjecture? D'Angelo did his tribute. I'm not sure why he'd agree to do it again.

Out of all of Prince's song, I'm not sure why you're stuck on "Adore" being thrown into the ring so easily. Even museum artifacts are enjoyed, but that doesn't mean everyone gets to put their hands on them. They're preserved as is for a reason, while other things are open to whoever's hand.

BET has been advertising the tribute for weeks, with D'Angelo as a named headliner. It is my guess that he would have sung Adore, as I cannot imagine that BET would not have included it in the tribute. That's just my viewpoint, to which I am entitled.

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Reply #37 posted 06/27/16 8:55am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

TrivialPursuit said:


No, I get that. I just think even great Prince fans that are singers would know that "Adore" is one of those songs that should just never be touched. Frankly, I'm tried of hearing people cover something as iconic as "Purple Rain", too (especially Stevie Wonder).

I was surprised that Bilal hit the notes he did on last night's BET Awards. I know of him, but I've tuned into much of his music. Just - because I never did. But I was pleased with his performance of "The Beautiful Ones".

Ultimately, no one is ever really going to hit the notes that a young 20-something genius did in a studio 30 years ago. I just don't think it should be on the table. Ever.

I feel you. I just disagree. And I don't think Prince would want his songs treated as museum artifacts, never to be "touched." Now, recording it is another matter; although Silk did a really good recording many years ago. Prince must have had to agree to that, right? With regard to Bilal, he has not recorded much in recent years, but he has one of the best falsettos in the business. He could have probably done "Adore," as well. But I think D'Angelo probably committed to singing Adore and, for whatever reason, did not show up. To be sure, D'Angelo could have nailed it.


Everything that Prince did in life contradicts this. He regularly refused permission to people who wanted to cover his songs.

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Reply #38 posted 06/27/16 9:09am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

No.

What would be Prince's best cover?

That is one of those songs that could just be better appreciated as is on the album.

I understand the sentiment; however, I respectfully disagree. I just think that "Adore" is too beautiful a song not to be sung. Just like Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You" is the brook of fire through which few great singers have successfully traversed, so is "Adore." But they continue to try...because they know that it is a song that can make or break their careers. It's like, why do you climb a mountain? Because it's there...it's the pinnacle.

Dolly Parton wrote and sang "I Will Always Love You." That's her song. So she can sing it.

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Reply #39 posted 06/27/16 9:27am

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TrivialPursuit said:


Why does anyone need to cover it at all?




yeahthat

There are just some songs that should be left alone.


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Reply #40 posted 06/27/16 9:49am

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Jamie Foxx. I would love to see him take a serious crack rather than for laughs, but even he wouldn't compare to Prince.

[Edited 6/27/16 9:49am]

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Reply #41 posted 06/27/16 10:02am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I understand the sentiment; however, I respectfully disagree. I just think that "Adore" is too beautiful a song not to be sung. Just like Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You" is the brook of fire through which few great singers have successfully traversed, so is "Adore." But they continue to try...because they know that it is a song that can make or break their careers. It's like, why do you climb a mountain? Because it's there...it's the pinnacle.

But like Purple Rain, when heard in it's original form. It is too high of a piece of art to duplicate and you feel satisfied.

I've heard Prince do it on a few shows through the years and it just paled in comparison even when he did it.

I Will Always Love You is originally Dolly Partons' so I don't have an issue with someone else doing that song.

I see what you are saying though. I just think some songs especially by Prince for the most part should be left alone.

holy shit, a post where I agree with OF4S!! wink

Adore is..just not a song that should be covered. I've too have seen Prince do it live a few times, and it's just not the same. I was even wishing I had never heard him do it live. It's not just the high notes, the harmonies, etc., there's a feel to the song that was captured perfectly, and covering it either live or in a recording would just take away from the original.

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Reply #42 posted 06/27/16 10:31am

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TrivialPursuit said:

CalhounSq said:

NOPE, that's why Maxwell backed outta that shit. They need to leave Adore ALONE exclaim


While I think Maxwell would probably handle that shit right (he did a great cover of "The Lady In My Life" from MJ a few years back), he is smart to step away from something people hold in such high regard. It's held there for good reason. He did good on "Nothing Compares 2 U", but I'd also be happy with him doing something like "Pink Cashmere", "Scandalous", "Do Me, Baby" or "When 2 R In Love". Frankly, if you think about it, the slow steady nature of something like "Condition Of The Heart" is right up his alley.

Where is this notion that Maxwell "stepped away" from or "backed out" of singing "Adore" coming from? I have seen or heard nothing like this, except on this post. Is this written in an article or something? Frankly, I'd have to see that to believe it because Maxwell is a CROONER of the highest order, with a really good falsetto.

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[Edited 6/27/16 11:05am]

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Reply #43 posted 06/27/16 10:34am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Where is this notion that Maxwell "stepped away" or "backed out" of singing "Adore"? I have seen or heard nothing like this, except on this post. Is this written in an article or something?


The same place you read D'Angelo was going to sing "Adore". poke lol

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #44 posted 06/27/16 10:40am

FlyOnTheWall

TrivialPursuit said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You have heard of tributes, right TrivialPursuit? I'm just wondering because, although it is one of P's most popular and beautiful ballads, it has been noticeably absent from most of the recent Prince tributes, including the BET Awards tribute tonight. Alicia Keys attempted to sing it during BET's 2010 tribute to Prince, but even she could not hit the high notes.


No, I get that. I just think even great Prince fans that are singers would know that "Adore" is one of those songs that should just never be touched. Frankly, I'm tried of hearing people cover something as iconic as "Purple Rain", too (especially Stevie Wonder).

I was surprised that Bilal hit the notes he did on last night's BET Awards. I know of him, but I've tuned into much of his music. Just - because I never did. But I was pleased with his performance of "The Beautiful Ones".

Ultimately, no one is ever really going to hit the notes that a young 20-something genius did in a studio 30 years ago. I just don't think it should be on the table. Ever.

Funny you should say that because I think that the opposite was true of Prince. Watching his face as he sat back observing the many tributes done in his honor over the years, he seemed to get a real kick out of it. And the singers would be doing their best to impress him, waiting for his approval, and viewers would be watching Prince's face for signs of his take. Many a Prince memes were born that way. The singer Miguel even says that, on the one occasion that he met Prince, P asked him to sing "Purple Rain" for him, right then and there. He was caught totally off-guard and would not sing it. He says that he felt it would have been disrespectful of him to sing Prince's anthem...but, I think he was probably just too nervous to sing it without practice. He might not have even known the words.

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Reply #45 posted 06/27/16 10:42am

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lrn36 said:

Jamie Foxx. I would love to see him take a serious crack rather than for laughs, but even he wouldn't compare to Prince.

[Edited 6/27/16 9:49am]

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Reply #46 posted 06/27/16 10:43am

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Probably not, IMHO.

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Reply #47 posted 06/27/16 10:43am

FlyOnTheWall

PurpleBabied said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Duh!! Dolly Parton wrote it, yes, and she continues to make untold millions from it, but Whitney's is the definitive version. That is undeniable. And even though it is a notoriously intimidating song to sing, every year singers around the world perform it at talent shows and on live competitions like "The Voice."

No, it's not intimidating. If it were intimidating, people would take singing it more seriously and back off. It just sounds like a great opportunity for sopranos with lungs and range to show boat and then so many people spectacularly misjudge their vocal abilities. Notice how the same people never try to cover early Mariah Carey?

Let us agree to disagree.

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Reply #48 posted 06/27/16 10:44am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

But like Purple Rain, when heard in it's original form. It is too high of a piece of art to duplicate and you feel satisfied.

I've heard Prince do it on a few shows through the years and it just paled in comparison even when he did it.

I Will Always Love You is originally Dolly Partons' so I don't have an issue with someone else doing that song.

I see what you are saying though. I just think some songs especially by Prince for the most part should be left alone.

holy shit, a post where I agree with OF4S!! wink

Adore is..just not a song that should be covered. I've too have seen Prince do it live a few times, and it's just not the same. I was even wishing I had never heard him do it live. It's not just the high notes, the harmonies, etc., there's a feel to the song that was captured perfectly, and covering it either live or in a recording would just take away from the original.


Same as WDC

The Purple Rain live tour version was great - but a completely different song to me

The 12" When Doves Cry (with a slightly faster pitch) - is the only way to hear this song

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Reply #49 posted 06/27/16 10:50am

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UChild said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I've been racking my brain trying to think of who could cover "Adore" without embarrassing him or herself. Any thoughts on the matter?


Bilal. He has the falsetto.

Not after he butchered The Beautiful Ones last night..
Alicia Keyes nailed it on the previous tribute.
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Reply #50 posted 06/27/16 10:53am

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Genesia said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I feel you. I just disagree. And I don't think Prince would want his songs treated as museum artifacts, never to be "touched." Now, recording it is another matter; although Silk did a really good recording many years ago. Prince must have had to agree to that, right? With regard to Bilal, he has not recorded much in recent years, but he has one of the best falsettos in the business. He could have probably done "Adore," as well. But I think D'Angelo probably committed to singing Adore and, for whatever reason, did not show up. To be sure, D'Angelo could have nailed it.


Everything that Prince did in life contradicts this. He regularly refused permission to people who wanted to cover his songs.

Recording and singing it live are two different things. Moreover, Silk did an excellent cover of Adore in 2006. Prince would have had to approve that, right? Here is a link to their spectacular rendition.


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Reply #51 posted 06/27/16 10:59am

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TrivialPursuit said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Where is this notion that Maxwell "stepped away" or "backed out" of singing "Adore"? I have seen or heard nothing like this, except on this post. Is this written in an article or something?


The same place you read D'Angelo was going to sing "Adore". poke lol

Ha! That's totally different from trying to make Maxwell sound scared to sing a certain song. Surely, you get that. I mention D'Angelo because he was billed as a headliner for the show, but he was a no-show.

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Reply #52 posted 06/27/16 11:03am

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These guys are quite good. This was for a long time the only version of Adore on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/w...ah30Dvs11A

YES! I heard this version some time ago and was extremely impressed.

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Reply #53 posted 06/27/16 11:04am

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luv2tha99s said:

UChild said:
Bilal. He has the falsetto.
Not after he butchered The Beautiful Ones last night.. Alicia Keyes nailed it on the previous tribute.

Wow. So, you think Bilal "butchered" The Beautiful Ones, but Alicia Keyes "nailed" it? Seriously?? Wow. Bilal killed it last night!!! Back in 2010, Alicia was screeching and she just could not hit the high notes. Maybe it was because she was in the late stages of pregnancy. Prince spawned dozens of memes that night. His expressions were priceless, especially when Alicia climbed onto the piano. I will never forget that moment.

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Reply #54 posted 06/27/16 11:05am

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luv2tha99s said:

UChild said:
Bilal. He has the falsetto.
Not after he butchered The Beautiful Ones last night.. Alicia Keyes nailed it on the previous tribute.

Bilal did that cover better than anyone could have. The physical aspect was a bit much, as no guy can do the Prince thing and look cool doing it, but on the vocals and the feelings, he was on point.

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Reply #55 posted 06/27/16 11:07am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

Duh!! Dolly Parton wrote it, yes, and she continues to make untold millions from it, but Whitney's is the definitive version. That is undeniable. And even though it is a notoriously intimidating song to sing, every year singers around the world perform it at talent shows and on live competitions like "The Voice."


There is a big damn difference between Whitney performing even the "definitive" version of someone else's song and other people performing what might be Prince's most amazing ballad - a song he wrote and sang. If you don't get that, you don't get anything.

Whatever. I guess I don't get anything, and I'm fine with that. Peace.

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Reply #56 posted 06/27/16 11:12am

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lrn36 said:

Jamie Foxx. I would love to see him take a serious crack rather than for laughs, but even he wouldn't compare to Prince.

[Edited 6/27/16 9:49am]

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Reply #57 posted 06/27/16 11:19am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

PurpleBabied said:

No, it's not intimidating. If it were intimidating, people would take singing it more seriously and back off. It just sounds like a great opportunity for sopranos with lungs and range to show boat and then so many people spectacularly misjudge their vocal abilities. Notice how the same people never try to cover early Mariah Carey?

Let us agree to disagree.

Ok. lol

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Reply #58 posted 06/27/16 11:50am

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FlyOnTheWall said:



TrivialPursuit said:




FlyOnTheWall said:



You have heard of tributes, right TrivialPursuit? I'm just wondering because, although it is one of P's most popular and beautiful ballads, it has been noticeably absent from most of the recent Prince tributes, including the BET Awards tribute tonight. Alicia Keys attempted to sing it during BET's 2010 tribute to Prince, but even she could not hit the high notes.




No, I get that. I just think even great Prince fans that are singers would know that "Adore" is one of those songs that should just never be touched. Frankly, I'm tried of hearing people cover something as iconic as "Purple Rain", too (especially Stevie Wonder).

I was surprised that Bilal hit the notes he did on last night's BET Awards. I know of him, but I've tuned into much of his music. Just - because I never did. But I was pleased with his performance of "The Beautiful Ones".

Ultimately, no one is ever really going to hit the notes that a young 20-something genius did in a studio 30 years ago. I just don't think it should be on the table. Ever.



I feel you. I just disagree. And I don't think Prince would want his songs treated as museum artifacts, never to be "touched." Now, recording it is another matter; although Silk did a really good recording many years ago. Prince must have had to agree to that, right? With regard to Bilal, he has not recorded much in recent years, but he has one of the best falsettos in the business. He could have probably done "Adore," as well. But I think D'Angelo probably committed to singing Adore and, for whatever reason, did not show up. To be sure, D'Angelo could have nailed it.



Yep, If Adore can be done D'angelo is the one that can certainly pull it off. It seems most would agree. D' seems to be one of those guys that can do covers extremely well and respectful. But Id be ok if it was never done. Adore seems almost untouchable (along with Insatiable imo)
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Reply #59 posted 06/27/16 11:54am

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lrn36 said:

Jamie Foxx. I would love to see him take a serious crack rather than for laughs, but even he wouldn't compare to Prince.


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He never had that taken down. lol He loved it.
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